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Autos › Re: Renewal/registration Of Vehicles @ the Cheapest Rate Ever Within 24hrs by solasola(m): 7:46pm On Nov 23, 2014

johnson33:
10k for renewal. I will need plate no& the name on the vehicle paper....35k for change of ownership& new plate

what doc will u need for the change of ownership and new plate?

thks for ur prompt response

Autos › Re: Renewal/registration Of Vehicles @ the Cheapest Rate Ever Within 24hrs by solasola(m): 5:59pm On Nov 23, 2014

johnson33:
are you sure other papers have not expired?

true the car papers expired just last month. i prefer to just renew it for now. what papers do i need to present and how much will it cost.

on the other hand, what if i want to do the change of ownership and a new plate for myself? how much will that cost me.

take note that i am the 3rd naija user as it is now.
its the first users plate Number that is on the plates. 2nd user only collected purchase receipt and an agreement document, along with the car registration documents.

Autos › Re: Renewal/registration Of Vehicles @ the Cheapest Rate Ever Within 24hrs by solasola(m): 9:49pm On Nov 22, 2014

hi, i just got a car with the new plate of former owner. he doesnt care about getting the plates back and i would love to just renew the license for now and get my change of ownership later. for now, renewal of vehicle license will cost how much?

Christianity Etc › Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by solasola(m): 12:15pm On Oct 12, 2014

categorically, apart from Jesus. No other human that walked the earth was sinless/had no sin/perfect.

Car Talk › Re: Peugeot: Cars With Attitude! by solasola(m): 9:25pm On Sep 11, 2014

thanks ikenna. i appreciate.

Car Talk › Re: Peugeot: Cars With Attitude! by solasola(m): 9:45pm On Sep 10, 2014

hi ikenna. i would not mind if you could put me through some modifications on XN1 engine. switching from mechanical driven fan to electrical one. thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: Here Is A List Of Churches That Has Derailed In The Message Of Holiness. by solasola(m): 5:35pm On May 08, 2012

[size=24pt]let me chip these in,i love the guy that started this thread, the issues he raised is damn right, let's be truthful for once. But he might not have been necessary to have a list of some religious bodies. Whatever the case check yourself and make sure your believe is not based on
my pastor said this and that
our daddy said
our Daddy cannot be wrong.

May we continue to enlighten these folks through whatever methods possible, at least you will not say you never heard. [/size]

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 5:14pm On May 08, 2012

iconic_s: @Bernimoore meant no insult, just a candid observation. The tithe is paid not just given.

8 “Should people cheat God? Yet you have cheated me!
“But you ask, ‘What do you mean? When did we ever cheat you?’
“You have cheated me of the tithes and offerings due to me. 9 You are under a curse, for your whole nation has been cheating me. 10 Bring all the tithes into the storehouse so there will be enough food in my Temple. If you do,” says the LORD of Heaven’s Armies, “I will open the windows of heaven for you. I will pour out a blessing so great you won’t have enough room to take it in! Try it! Put me to the test! (Mal 3:8-10 NLT).

@soalsola abraham did not give tithe under law, there was no law during his time. He gave tithes based on his revelation. Don't forget abraham was also a prophet and the father of faith.

[size=19pt]What are you saying now, let the bible speak for itself, no need of hasty generalization.

Where does the bible say Abraham gave tithes based on revelation. Revelation from whom? Answer please with the bible[/size]

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 7:40am On May 08, 2012

iconic_s: @Goshen "It is Priest that receives tithe FROM THE LEVITES in the OT". You sure are getting funnier. The priest were levites; ever heard the term levitical priesthood?

Its simple, ask yourself:
1. were tithes were paid before the law? YES
2. were the priests there before the law? NO
3. Was the tithe a function of the law? NO cos it came before the law.

So your whole body of proof why you don't pay tithes is that you are a priest? Hahaha!!!

Wish all y'all the best. Pay your tithes if you like or not, your choice. For me, it isn't OPTIONAL!

Very good answer"Tithes were given before the LAW",Abraham and Jacob gave a tenth not based on any law to do so, both were merely instances of voluntarily giving one tenth not compulsory

Now later, the Law made it mandatory and kind of established the giving of the tenth.(Le 25:1-12)

When christ came, Christ our greater Abraham, put an end to the mosaic law, that is why all things associated with the law was done away with,like offering burnt sacrifices, city of refuges, e.t.c

Today, they might serve as guides, but no rigid rules, again not rigid set of rules

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 11:12pm On May 07, 2012

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Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 10:56pm On May 07, 2012

paid and gave are not the same oh

Yoruba version

Sisan ati fifun yato gan an ni.

Hausa coming soon.

At least, you need to understand this.

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 10:53pm On May 07, 2012

@ 123image, @bernimoore, @am i getting something wrong here?

If Abraham gave or paid a tenth of the Spoils, does this imply in anyway that it was a law?

Simple question, i need simple answer from the bible

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 8:08pm On May 07, 2012

[size=20pt]please remember that abraham was not given any law to pay a tithe[/size]

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 8:07pm On May 07, 2012

pd piper pippen: Dear friend, I wld refer u to, malachi 3:8, and matt23:23, we are children of abraham and our father abraham tithed, we are instructed by the word of God to walk in footsteps of our father, rmbr God introduced faith to us tru abraham, and as his children we are commanded to live by faith just as our dad abraham.

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Before the law covenant, there was no established law to pay the tithe, if there was, how could Jacob vow at Bethel to give one tenth of his substance to God.—Ge 28:20-22.
My point is, it does not may any sense to vow to pay something that has already being established or where do you find that in the bible.

Even if Abraham were given the law, who is our father in faith? Abraham or Jesus? thats where you get it all wrong and moduled up together.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 12:14pm On May 07, 2012

otito lo ma gbeke iro. As shown above, giving voluntarily superceeds the tenth in everyway.Many sold possessions for the the needy,they gave more than a tenth part. It was that for of giving that made annanias and saphira to sell their land but they lied.eya.The Law convenant has been done away with, now is time for the new covenant through christ Jesus our Lord with does not involve being govern by a set rule of laws or codes.

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 11:03am On May 07, 2012

[size=22pt]please read the above carefully and search the scriptures diligently, it is of no importance to twist the scriptures to fit what we think is true or should be true, this matter under discussion is black and white. Remember Rev 22:18 If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in these scroll....[/size]

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 10:54am On May 07, 2012

pd piper pippen: Young man if u really understand pre tithe issues then this whole thread wld be uneccesary, I wrote in response to the issue of tithe posted on front page, plsss tithe ws nt originated by the old testament law, and therefore the abolishment of d old testament does nt affect tithes, the principles of tithe we follow today are such as enunciated by abraham and nt the old testament law, I shudder to watch as the collective ignaorance of both you and ur supporters frog leap on rampage. Pls u guys shld all shut up, go anf learn more, u are all ignoramuses! Sori! No offence meant!

[size=18pt]A tenth part, or 10 percent, given or paid as a tribute, especially for religious purposes.
The Bible tells of two instances prior to the setting up of the Law covenant in which a tenth part of possessions was paid to God or to his representative. The first of these was on the occasion when Abraham gave Melchizedek one tenth of the spoils of his victory over Chedorlaomer and his allies. (Ge 14:18-20) The apostle Paul cites this incident as proof that Christ’s priesthood according to the manner of Melchizedek is superior to that of Levi, since Levi, being in the loins of Abraham, paid tithes, in effect, to Melchizedek. (Heb 7:4-10) The second case concerned Jacob, who vowed at Bethel to give one tenth of his substance to God.—Ge 28:20-22.

These two accounts, however, are merely instances of voluntarily giving one tenth. There is no record to the effect that Abraham or Jacob commanded their descendants to follow such examples, thereby establishing a religious practice, custom, or law. It would have been superfluous for Jacob, if already under a compulsory obligation to pay tithes, to vow to do so, as he did. It is therefore evident that the tithing arrangement was not a custom or a law among the early Hebrews. It was instituted with the inauguration of the Law covenant, not before.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 10:42am On May 07, 2012

[size=30pt]FELA SAID IT ALL, POPE NA ENJOYMENT, IMAM NA GBALADUN,PASTORS HOUSE NA HIM FINE PASS........[/size][size=8pt][/size]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 10:38am On May 07, 2012

[b][size=20pt]WHO SAID THE TITHES ARE NOT FORCED ON PEOPLE. LET ME GIVE YOU FACTS,IF YOU LIKE, TURN A BLIND EYE TO IT:

IN SOME CHURCHES,

THEY HAVE A REGISTER FOR TITHE PAYMENT

WHEN YOU DIE, THEY WILL CALCULATE ALL THE SO-TITHE DEBTS OF THE DECEASED AND REQUEST FOR ITS PAYMENT BEFORE THEY DO BURIAL PROGRAM OR ELSE NOTIN GO HAPPEN

IF YOU WORK FOR SOME RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION(THEIR SO-CALLED BUSINESS UNIVERSITIES..)ONE-TENTH OF YOUR SALARY IS DEDUCTED UP-FRONT

THEY EVEN MAKE SUGGESTIVE STATEMENTS LIKE:

IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TITHE, IT WOULD BE TIGHT FOR YOU

RAISE YOUR OFFERING UP(WHEN YOU LOOK BESIDE AND SEE N500,SHE YOU NO GO DROP N20 AND BRING SOMETHING HIGHER?)

HAVE YOUR CHURCH EVER READ THE CHURCH ACCOUNT?

CAN AN AVERAGE WORKER AFFORD A PRIVATE JET? OR EVEN THE LATEST BRAND NEW CARS?

YET THE CHURCHES ARE FILLED WITH POOR ONES THAT THEY DO NOT HELP.

NOW QUESTIONS YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELVES:

WHAT HAPPENED TO VOLUNTARY DONATIONS AS DONE BY THE FIRST CENTURY CHRISTIANS?
IF ONE OF THE GREATEST APOSTLE(PAUL)COULD DO WORK WITH HIS HANDS TO ASSISTS HIMSELF WRITE 13 SCRIPTURES, ABA THESE PEOPLE THEY REALLY FOOL UNA OH

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Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 11:18pm On May 06, 2012*

[size=20pt]IMAGINE THE GREEDINESS, SOME SO CALLED PASTORS WILL SAY:
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Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 11:13pm On May 06, 2012*

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Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 11:11pm On May 06, 2012

At no time were first-century Christians commanded to pay tithes. The primary purpose of the tithing arrangement under the Law had been to support Israel’s temple and priesthood; consequently the obligation to pay tithes would cease when that Mosaic Law covenant came to an end as fulfilled, through Christ’s death. (Eph 2:15; Col 2:13, 14) It is true that Levitical priests continued serving at the temple in Jerusalem until it was destroyed in 70 C.E., but Christians from and after 33 C.E. became part of a new spiritual priesthood that was not supported by tithes.—Ro 6:14; Heb 7:12; 1Pe 2:9.

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NOW LET YOUR SO-CALLED PASTORS LEARN FROM THE APOSTLE, ALL OF THEM PUT TOGETHER CANNOT MATCH PAUL[/size]
As Christians, they were encouraged to give support to the Christian ministry both by their own ministerial activity and by material contributions. Instead of giving fixed, specified amounts to defray the church's expenses, they were to contribute “according to what a person has,” giving “as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” (2Co 8:12; 9:7) They were encouraged to follow the principle: “Let the older men who preside in a fine way be reckoned worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching. For the scripture says: ‘You must not muzzle a bull when it threshes out the grain’; also: ‘The workman is worthy of his wages.’” (1Ti 5:17, 18) However, the apostle Paul set an example in seeking to avoid bringing an undue financial burden on the congregation.—Ac 18:3; 1Th 2:9.

PAUL BABA WORKED EVEN WITH HIS HANDS MAKING TENTS, HE DID NOT ACCUMULATE HOUSES NEITHER DID HE BUY A PRIVATE JET NOR A UNIVERSITY

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 11:03pm On May 06, 2012

i will give you my own summary now

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 11:01pm On May 06, 2012

Aringon: @Whether Pastor Kun or Mr Kun or whatever, if u r against the payment of tithe , then leave and stop interpreting the bible in a wrong way to accommodate ur thoughts. If u don't want to pay then leave, thank God for the lives of people who said they will continue to pay their tithe.

If I may ask u, where do u think the money to maintain the church and upsetting of other bills come from? Oh ye carnal mind and may God in heaven forgive u. Amen

yeye, same contribution you use in building universities you can never afford and no concession will be given you as dividend of investment and some even own private jets, for what i ask. you tithe payers have just turned yourselves in monkey dey work baboon dey chop.[size=22pt][/size]

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Preachers by solasola(m): 7:51pm On May 06, 2012

[size=20pt]If you support the tithe, how do you view building of Church Universities with tithe monies when even the contributors to such monies can't afford to send their wards to the university. They don't even get a discount.If you invested your money, at least you will need to get interest/dividend.

For those who care to be enlightened, stop allowing the so-called Pastors to trick you with their funny anointing.[/size]

Politics › Re: Cleric Faults Soyinka Over Same-sex Marriage by solasola(m): 11:13am On Jan 06, 2012*

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