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Moneywomen17:
where did u read oramiyan refuse to ascend ife throne.

Hey fvcktard, I posted something to that effect written by and alluded to by a Yoruba man of international repute so who gives two fvcks about the rantings of inconsequential, faceless nitwits like you?

Get lost biatch, you can't undo it.

Olu317:
Is Ooni Ogunwusi the richest Odudua descendant ? You are absolutely ignorant.

Please, allow this ooni have some respect. That you claim not to know that your ooni is a fraudster is shocking and disgraceful.

He occupies a stool that was set up by fraud while he himself is also a fraudster, that's the type of history you jokers build.

Meanwhile, to even buttress the veracity of this claim, the Olugbo had wondered how the current ooni even got elected when he still has a father citing precedence that e oonis are usually not expected to have their fathers living. But how do they care when money have changed hands and bribery is given right of way over culture. This dubiousness is nothing new. It has always been the defining character of everything that pertains to the hoax Yoruba call history.

http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/n400m-fraud-efcc-quiz-new-ooni-ife/

Olu317:
From which scholar did this Oba Bini worshipper got this from ? We know who we are as Yorubas .Do you know your ancestors ? Start from there... I mock you Oviedo

You don't know your ancestors. You are lost in time. In the desperation of your forebears to give perspective to your darkly opaque and cloudy history, they came up with dubiously ridiculous historical inventions. Chiefly among which is the one which says all yorubas are descendants of Oduduwa and then that all yorubas are from Ife and then that Oduduwa came forth from heaven and landed in Ife. Meanwhile, in your attempt to correct your delusion, you quickly recognized that Ife had inhabitants before the coming of Oduduwa.
Look, let's cut the chase, yoruba history is pure crap. Cut and nail. Though you are free to keep teaching your fraud to your generations yet unborn. After all, it's what they handed over to you.

Olu317:
Just look at your uneducated brain ? Go ask for the story of Orunto.You kept jumping from ignorance to pseudo historical account . I just wonder if you really do a bit of research internent before you send anything on a forum as this . You are basically too lazy. Anyway, I know your problem......And it is because, you have been battered from all angle with fact from Yoruba land

Shut the fvck up as$hole!

In all the drivel you scribbled down up there, you finally didn't pass any message across. All you do is defend blindly phantom historical accounts of events that never took place.

I ordinarily like to ignore the rubbish that usually comes from you.

BabaRamota1980:
You confuse honorary chieftaincy with dynastic titles.

I dont blame you for the ignorance. Edo never had a dynasty.

Is that the best you can do? C'mon. You can do better except that the RAM in your name is what is speaking... Lol

Moneywomen17:
u are the one who is indulging him he should tell us whose descendants the ooni if not oduduwa and how was he usurped

Shut the fvck up, bow your freaking head down and learn punk! Ooni was a fvcking slave to Oduduwa, born by a fvcking slave woman who was captured and used as sacrifice. His tutelage under Oduduwa coupled with oranmiyan's refusal to ascend the throne is what many refer to as usurpation especially since direct descendants of that slave boy are the ones becoming ooni while the only thing left to remember oranmiyan is his staff.

Moneywomen17:
reeka is the son of oduduwa. There is nobody called elkhadaren ur king use am for sacrifice

Who the fvck is reeka and what the hell is this crappy guy talking about?

BabaRamota1980:
So ekaldheran was no longer the stranger that arrived and the city threw an owambe party to announce that their king had come...whereby they instantly installed him king over them?


How many of these ekladherans does Edo have?

Stop making a fool of yourself. Being a priest and herbal expert didn't negate his kingly attributes. The emphasis was to establish reason why oranmiyan refused taking up the throne and rather left it to the slave assistant who would later be known as Oduduwa. At least ,that's what you yorubas also believe.

BabaRamota1980:
Where did you hear that the present Ooni is not direct descendant of Ooni Oduduwa?

There is something we call Ifa in Yorubaland. All our Obas have Ifa and an Ifa priest.

Before science discovered dna Ifa has been used to validate lineage and pedigree in Yorubaland.

....and if i may add, our priests do not turn the oracle message upside down and lie as you guys do in Edo.

See this shameless comedian. So what has your blind ifa been looking at all this while that traditional stools were being sold to the highest bidder in yorubaland?

You sound thoroughly stupid and ridiculous for even bringing it such a laughable line of thought.

BabaRamota1980:
Didnt ekalahderan become Ooni again, abi una witchcraft got you guys confused?

So if ekaladheran started Ooni and your brother said thats a slave throne what does it make your Eweka?

You are irretrievably dumb! Ekaladerhan(Oduduwa) was a priest and herbal expert at Ife. Oramiyan his son, fathered Eweka. The slave son of the slave woman who served under Oduduwa was the one who became ooni. Stop making a fool of yourself with your paraplegic comprehension. Read it written by a Yoruba man like yourself.

BabaRamota1980:
So going by your warped statement Eweka came through a slave lineage. Correct?

Sorry dickow, Eweka is a bona fide scion of the Ogiso dynasty just his fathers before him; Oranmiyan and Ekaladerhan(Oduduwa)

Olu317:
You need be given a knock on the head for this your nonsensical statement. Have not read that ILEIFE was the source of Yorubas. Even Kingdoms that are older than OYO ,BINI,IJEBU, OKUN, IWO,IKOYI , acknowledged Ooni and ILEIFE . Go visit Orangun ILA( the first son of Odua) , Owu, Popo King, Oniketu , Obokun etc and ask them, whose seat is supreme? They will inform you as Oba Bini acknowledge recently that Ooni seat, is the most revered ,because it was the seat of their ancestor, called , Oduduwa/Admila . Funny enough, Oranmiyan sustained this legacy and his descendants uphold it .
Qed.

You are not well! This is why I have decided to allow you and your ilks display you madness to the full glare of the public.

That you yorubas claim ile ife as your source is basically what you sick fvcks were programmed to do. There's absolutely no statement of fact in that.
Even the ijebus have claimed to have come directly from Arabia themselves and not originating from ife.

The Awujale and Alaafin's claims stands.You are too small and infinitesimal to change that. Ooni is a slaveboy and you all bow to slaves because you yourselves are slaves.

davidnazee:
You argue on fact lol. Your arguments is based on myth and legends.
If you know what fact is you won’t deny that Benin conquered and ruled Yoruba.
You won’t deny Benin was the mightiest and only independent kingdom in the 18th century.

Anyways keep riding your wave of delusion using your myths and legends as your paddle.
Ekhaladeran is Oduduwa and he did not descend from the skies with chains.

Stop wasting your time with baba RAM ota. The "ram" in his name is what is dictating his reasoning. You can never make sense when arguing with a mad man.

BabaRamota1980:
You do know that your Ogiso succession was not hereditary, correct? Also, an Ogiso rule is not lifetime, he can be removed and replaced. Some Ogisos were recalled from throne.

The complaint against an Ogiso is sent to Ife. The King in Ife rules on a recall. The recalled Ogiso returns to Ife. What they do to them in Ife is unclear.

The Ogiso is a class of Chiefdom that rule by proxy of Oduduwa's covenant.

So how could the son of the last Ogiso in line go to Ife and become a founding King?

Its impractical!

I will stop here. I want to engage you so im not going to say all i need to say in one post. I really need this to be a conversation and with goal to completely discredit Edo hoax.

You are totally unschoolable! Like Moorish rightly noted, you are an online robotic troll.

With this latest buffet of lies and comedy, You should be pitied.

This is coming from the Oluwo himself.

BabaRamota1980:
These people have practically written everybody's history on their behalf and inserted themselves as primary founder or kingmaker of the culture.

Type Igala, type Nupe, type Oduduwa, type Itsekiri...and you will see an Edo content.

It is so bad even Esan is claiming they own Lagos.

I believe you were referring to the yorubas here.

BabaRamota1980:
The political system in Nigeria demands a militancy approach to remain respected and left alone without bother. You have to demonstrate insanity and readiness for mass murder against your opponents. Unfortunately Yoruba acts as if we are amongst civilized peoples like us who acknowledge diplomacy as a viable tool for conflict resolution. Nigeria only understands machette and guns as tools for conflict resolution. In this respect Yoruba is behind and disillusioned.

After what yanminri did to them in the war Edo learnt not to fvk with Ibo.

Nobody fvks with the Northerner.

Even Ijaw gets respect and people back off.


This simple social relationship of "you fvck with me I kill you" does not need a university degree or a dissertation paper to see and conclude.

When others say Yoruba is a coward they know in real sense we are not....but the interpretation of that is like saying " Yoruba, when are you going to kill us?"


Please permit to use the following graphic to illustrate my point.

You have been cooking history here all the way long. But the thing is; The civil wat was never an all out tribal war. While it was tribal for the Igbo's, to the rest of Nigeria (which the Midwest belongs), it wasn't so. So when the Igbo's invaded the Midwest and proclaimed a non existent country that lasted barely 48 hrs, it would have been totally nonsensical for the Midwesterners to Marshal local forces to dislodge them, but rather wait for the federal troops to do the dislodgement themselves just as was in the case of Ore. Use your common sense sometimes.

Moorish:
Steve let us try to calm the rhetoric

If you bust shots

Man will always bust back

You should know the time is at hand

For our people

We are the next rulers of this land

Our fathers were not this hateful to other Nigerians

Please, do not let hate end us as a people

Words have power

I have had to learn that the hard way

Peace to you

Moorish, OK.

All that needs to be said has been said.

Not all yorubas are suckers, though there are many of whom are just as has been clearly proved here.

I think you are among the reasonable ones. I see how these horde of pigs attack you for towing the line of sanity.

It does no good to anyone to continue engaging these cretins.

Again, all that needs to be said, have been said.

Didn't know this before...hmmm

MayorofLagos:
Do you realize how he has tactically deconstructed and destroyed your Ekhaladeran? He has successfully convinced those who previously thought your hoax had any shred of truth to now have a rethink, people who would not ordinarily ask questions about such things are now awakened and wondering why, in a hierarchical and patrilineal society where a male child is golden, that a father would kill his only son in order to have more? He did great damage to your hoax when he used the analogy of a house owner burning down his property so he could acquire means to build more.

You call him inconsequential You need your head examined.

Listen dickhead, he did nothing other than expose his mental dilapidation which you obviously suffer from. We've said what need to be said, anything more would just be needless repetition.

Sorry, I can't help your case.

Obalufon:
you think this people love you ..they hate your gut.. we yoruba are the most liberal tribe in Nigeria we accommodate everyone ,we treat people equally regardless of their tribe we judge base on peoples character yet they still hate us out of jealous.. is only in yoruba land you will see people from different states working in our local government and state and occupying sensitive political position easterner/ southerners /northerner becoming a chairman senate commissioner and Councillor which is very rare to come by in other state

Hehehe, you suffer from very deep paranoia. Being on NL won't cure that. Get yourself mental help before it degenerates into full blown madness.

Moorish:
Nigg*as like you can never understand

I lived in a racist and oppressive England for close to a decade

Brothers fed, fought and banded together

If Edo is glorified, it is good for the black peoples

If Oyo rise, same

I have since learned to accept all original nations of the holy blacks as mine

Let us stop tearing each other down please

We need power, we need weapons to rise again as a sovereign race

The American power complex became so from Natural gas

Power, Domestics and Industry

The Edos you so much loathe have s.hit loads of very resource under their grounds in oben, edo state

Yorubas run the economic capital

We need to collaborate before it is too late!

We all need eachother

Peace

Babaramota is an inconsequential piece of shitt never to be taken serious.

As it was then, so it is now...

Moneywomen17:
another trash not making any sense at all just the same dumb rhetoric and stop deceiving urself any real g knows u are still a virgin who is never seen life pussy before ur comments betray u in that sense.

Imagine the kind of joker we've been engaging all the while? Shame!

Moorish:
To my Edo cousins, Battle of Atakpamé

Research that

You said Oyo's were cowards

Well, I do not believe I am a coward, nor my brethren

My ancestors defeated the ashanti in battle. Battle of Atakpamé

We also subdued Dahomey.

I also admit that Benin Kingdom was a formidable force and I take great pride in that african kingdom as well

I will also admit that Oyo was less powerful than Benin when the white imperialist came here

Why?

Fulani invasion and internal fighting

Benin was the last to fall in Nigeria

So mad respect to Benin

However,

I think you guys had a lot of factors to your advantage

Territorial advantage

The fulanis did not have a clear path into benin

You also had alot of wealth in benin territory

Rubber, Palms

The white man wanted to trade with your fertile region

Nonetheless, you have alot to be proud of

So do my people

Peace brothers

Moorish, you have earned a lot of respect here, I can tell you that. However, I think its time you chastised your brothers here engaging in foolery. Only fools fight unwinnable wars and that's exactly what they've been doing.

On this matter, the Edos are like mountains; no matter how hard you push, they'll never move. That's the sense of patriotism they have. Advise your people to stop engaging in a wild goose chase.

Peace.

BabaRamota1980:
In case you missed it...this is a post by Y0ruba.

Babaramota would continually be a synonym for stupidity. It is one of those things here established that Y0ruba is a quack history manufacturer not worth two cents. I quoted a more sensible and objective historian who also happens to be Yoruba. Y0ruba is a nonentity and a greater nonentity you are for being his disciple.

gregyboy:
what episode in if loving is wrong where randall and his lawyer friend trying suffocating
Thats what u want to believe...

I havnt seen any oba of benin in ife if true benin oba heads were been buried in ife then so should other yoruba kingdom kings head should hve also be buried in ife ...if they did not then its just a folklore by the yorubas claiming oba of benin heads wetr buried in ife to show progenitor...
Yet we havnt still seen the benin obas head dugged out or any other yoruba oba head dug out yo show all this kings showed respect to ife ....

But what Nigerians have seen is a statue dugout of benin showing the ooni not the othet way round this only shows that the ooni sends is statue to benin to show benin supiority over all yorubas through conquering we spreaded our relgion our food to the yoruba race we made yoruba our son called the town ile ife meaning ile(run) n' fe (wealth or suceed) which later coined by the yorubas who couldn't speak benin to ile ife.

Thank you. We've been saying it that yoruba has no history. What they simply do is they do a mind envisioning, then begin to create a story to fit that mental picture. This is just the dubiousness of these people. Unfortunately, so many of them do this and at the end of the day, everyone is touting to sell his own fraudulent historical creations over those of the others.

Most yorubas very certainly don't know where they come from, they just decided at some point to link up with ife. If you ask the original inhabitants of ife where they came from, they'll begin to tell unreasonable tales. That's why they never want to touch on these areas because they know it would unearth so much about their fraud, so they just sweet it under the carpet and tell everyone to simply regard themselves as originating from ife.

rhektor:
You get this wrong, very wrong boy
Just let me jeer up your sleeping brain �.
Oranmiyan that started your Ọba Dynasty in Ilẹ̀ Ìbínú is thee same that started the Ọba dynasties of the Ọ̀yọ́. He latter came back to become the ooni of Ìfẹ́, so how is that a slave boy of Oodua? I really mock your ignorance boy

Hehehe

You are really a manufacturer of history.

This is a screenshot from a seminal work by a yoruba man Zents Kunle Sowunmi who has demonstrated objectivity in his analysis. He is also a writer and historian amongst many other things.

Here is what he says confirming that ooni was indeed an Oduduwa slave born by a slave woman and accounts for why Alaafin would never accept ooni superiority over him. Same thing Olugbo is saying. And here is all these people telling you that you are an ignoramus of the first order.

Moneywomen17:
shut up there tell us a Benin name that start with odu till today in Yoruba land we have oduduwa odutola and odufuwa. Pure Yoruba name but one dumbass called steveosaz is saying pure bullshit here.

You are clearly a donkey.
Is Odu what is in contention here? Or that you people twisted and skewed the original meaning of the name.
Just like Bazuaye was converted to Bajulaye by you guys. Edo converted to Ado.

This is what you yorubas are running away from. The shadow of a haunting past. So you decided to create your own history afresh....hahaha

He is not telling the full story. Ugbo people were a tribe of bandits who lived basically by rapine & theft. Apparently they were stronger that the Ifes, so they continuously preyed on them, until the Moremi incident.

Now both people were neighbours who spoke variants of a language we now know as Yoruba. They never had a common identity so the issues of dynastic supremacy or or succession dynastic succession did not exist at that time between them.

Oduduwa was exiled from Benin, stumbled upon the Ifes, became their king and established the dynasty that Olugbo is trying so hard to claim today.

Typical Yoruba history manufacturer in action... Hahahaha

fatiaforreal:
I don't know why people from minor kingdoms, close to extinction are celebrating the seeming crisis in yorubaland. Yoruba of today is a huge nation, spread across eight countries, on two different continents. It's no doubt the envy of many whose mighty kingdom, irrespective of glorious past has an insignificant radius of influence on a global scale.
Most people don't understand, that the evolution of tribes and races is a complex and continuous one. There are points of separation and fusion of peoples and languages beyond the trivialities being expressed by some people here. The Yoruba race has carved it's niche on the map of the modern world, bigger and better that what it was 100-1000 years ago, unlike some whose influence in the modern world has diminished to less than 70km from the palace.
Facing the truth as I know it, Olugbo was the king in Ife prior to Oduduwa. If you read certain version of Ijaw(Ujo, Ijo, Upon, Icon) history, Ujo was one of the founding fathers of Ijaw race. In the cause of their migrations, Ujo was with Oduduwa in Nupe, from where they matched on Ife, leading to the displacement of Olugbo. Though there was a prophecy about their migration to a new land blessed with natural resources.

Here are the children of slaves confessing...

Tinububola121:
mostly ijebus are slaves, and even ijebus in osun state are also slave to we core yorubas