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Moneywomen17:
alright please answer this who is the first king of Benin

DUMB QUESTION!
We do not know for certain who was the first king (Ogiso) in Benin, but we know Ogiso Owodo was the last, and Oduduwa (Izoduwa or Ekaladerhan) being his son was also father to Oranmiyan who begot Eweka I.

YOUR OWN QUESTION
Tell us from where did Oduduwa come according to the numerous ridiculous versions of Yoruba or Yoruba folklore.

These Yoruba guys of this generation are simply an embarrassment to literature and historical perspectives. Going down memory lane is a waste of time with them. You cannot bend an already dried fish lest it breaks.

But for the few amongst you who are a little bit above tge bar, I hope you know what symbolism means. Certain things are done to project or make particular statements.

Look at the chairs these two kings are sitting on and tell who is actually the baba.

Though I hate going down this low, but its important sometimes.
You give the high seat to your Oba even when he visits your domain. Buhari would always have the high seat whenever he visits a governor. That's the message being passed here. Open your brains!

Onijagidijagan:
Keep running your mouth like a foolish person.. I can categorically say you're not a Bini person. is either you're from IBO or Auchi.

Oranmiyan (Yoruba)
Oba (Yoruba)
Uselu(Yoruba)
Omo(Yoruba)
Iye Oba(Yoruba)
Bini (Yoruba)
Eweka(Owomika) (Yoruba)
Amongst many other Yoruba words.

You're just blinded by ur hatred for Yoruba.
6 years ago on nairaland, Edo people were claiming Eweka is their first Oba until Oba ewuare ll set d historical fact straight that Oranmiyan was a king in Bini.

Lastly you still believe Oba of Benin came to Ife for nation wide coronation visit after two years or more? this is preposterously untrue.

Many Edo towns trace their kingship title to Yoruba lands eg Benin, Ibilo and some Akoko Edo towns.

You are a classical case of the dilapidation of education in this country. Oba Ewuare didn't say anything new. What he said was that in numbering of kings of Benin, it should actually start from Oranmiyan. Oranmiyan himself being the son of Oduduwa (Izoduwa or Ekaladerhan) who himself was the son of the last Ogiso Owodo. Oba Ewuare's father, Erediauwa has already in his wisdom written down all those histories for generations unborn - though not for stiff neck ignoramuses like yourself. So try harder little boy, it would only be you blowing out air from your mouth against the torrent of the wind. Inconsequential!

luvablesam:
Yu are obviously Yoruba n illiterate

Rex123:
You guys say shit, the Ooni has been to the bini Palace twice. The ọba is just returning the courtesy call.

You can imagine how some of them would have lost their heads had it been the Oba of Benin visited his son (Ooni) before the sultan.

Onijagidijagan:
You people argue so blindly, sometimes required to be flogged 25 strokes before getting wisdom.

Have u ever read d history of Oba of Benin? the first king that brought Oba to Benin is from Ife.

And Ife was his ancestral home. Don't be impress with d ibos on nairaland giving you cheap likes you don't warrant.

All Obas in Nigeria and beyond migrated from IFE.

You should go back to your primary school and ask any teacher available to immediately give you a very hard knock - its called a factory reset. You urgently need one right now because fallacy is clearly your past time.

BabaRamota1980:
No Yoruba has ever said Edo people are from Ife. We dont know you and dont care where you come from or go to.

Bini is our son and our people and you can fill a library with all kind of literatures you want to contradict it...writers and researchers before you have recorded their truthful findings and taken oral narratives from Bini courtiers as evidence of Bini roots in Ife.

Please stop making Edo important in Bini, you are non entity. Your Ogiso reign is over long ago, this is Yoruba dynasty in Bini, bow to the Omo N'Oba, and the Omo N'Oba bow to Oranmiyan, his ancestor.

If you are not happy with the arrangement feel free to reinstall your Ogiso back in power, lets see if you can.

Can't believe anyone could still be this daft in this 21st century. The most authentic literary piece on this subject by the immediate past Oba of Benin is an authority in this debate any day. Ooni is the son of the Benin monarch and is also a stranger in Ife.

You need help.

What would it cost to get a Peugeot 406 2002 - 04 model to Nigeria, specifically Ew10 engine and preferably 04 model with cost of clearing.

obaaderemi:
So what?who is arguing with u that eko is not a bini word?but then eko is not the traditional home of the yorubas.its ife and is ife also a bini word?but bini is the traditional home of the binis.both the land and its people took their names from the yorubas.u have a problem with that?

Listen to that ridiculous assertion you put there. There are so many Yoruba sub groups that do not know from where the hell they came, they only just did some funny historical connections at some point to link up with Ife. Meanwhile, before that travesty of history you tell of how Bini came about from a Yoruba linguistic construction, are you aware that it is also claimed that the Bini's were prior to that known as 'Igodomigodo'?
Now how about that?

Dumaknesset:
How uncanny, I didn't communicate anything yet you wrote this long epistle to debunk nothing. You are always putting yourself in a bind, the flux in your mind is the reason. You are shifty and barely articulate sense, it is no use dealing with you since you impervious to sense. You guys are tenants and will continue to buy air and beat your flat hairy chest on nothing.

I gave you what the law of the land said and you dispel OT with brazen ignorance, well ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

Shift and believe whatever you want to believe. the truth and reality is not the puddle you have upstairs.

Look, you are just a rabble rouser. I gave you some hard core verifiable back ups and even painted a glaring reality to you yet you still don't get it. Sorry, you are way past the line. Who knows, you just might be working under one of those none indigenes and yet come here to blab trash. I know go getters when I see them and you clearly don't fall in that category.

Listen, who is a tenant and who is a landlord in today's world is a question of how much of the real estate you have in your possession. I guess you would ignorantly call the Ibru's tenants, or Dangote, or all those other super rich dudes who move and shake Lagos. LoL, you've got to be a special breed of an ignoramus.
Well, you who claim to be an omo onile, those peole run the show while you 'oga lanlord' would only get to sit by the curb and watch. Mind you, this topic is about the Island, and even at that, you don't own shit!

BabaRamota1980:
I like your approach and sense of history, please my brother, permit me to add few more clarity from where you are and so people can have clear awareness.

1) Prior to Oranmiyan there was nothing in Edoland called Bini. Oranmiyan was progenitor of Bini.

2) OmonOba is a ruling title, like we have Oba, Awujale, Olu, Deji as ruling titles.

3) Oranmiyan was first Oba in the transition from Ogieso to Obaship in Edoland.

4) The throne and court of Oranmiyan was called Bini. His courtiers were Yorubas. This is why Yoruba was the official language of court. Edos dont speak Yoruba.

5) Oranmiyan's son Eweka was the first OmonOba and second foreign ruler aftervthe Ogieso dynasty.

6) Eweka's father and bloodline is Yoruba. That pedigree has remained unbroken till today. His mother is Edo.

7) The point of brotherhood between Yoruba and Edo started in Eweka. Prior to his father coming to Edo Yoruba had no relations or knowledge of Edo or Ogieso.

8..) Edo people are muddled in their own history and identity. They own the land but Yoruba own the throne. They use Bini and Edo interchangeably because they are confused.

9) Yorubas must be clear and with show of empathy teach Edos the knowlddge they lack in their own identity and help them regain pride in it.

10) Edo is the subject, Bini is the ruler over them.

11) The Bini rulers are the bloodlines in Obaship of Lagos. Edo has no relevance in the history of Lagos.

12) The Binis did not fight off the Dahomeys to secure Lagos, the Ilajes did, under command of Bini staff of authority.

Which beer parlor did you suddenly arise from? Taking you on would be utterly pointless cos where you are going is another hill on its own. But get in into your empty skull, as at the periods you mentioned, there was nothing like "Yoruba". There were several entities like the Egbas, Oyo, Ife, Ijebu, etc. The relationship between the Bini's and that part of the world was only with Ife and much later Lagos and not with what you guys today now call Yoruba. Meanwhile, the ancestry of Oduduwa as told by the Bini's is faultless unlike the incoherent fables the yorubas tout all over the place. Oduduwa is no Ife man, he is of the Ogiso dynasty. Meanwhile what the hell exactly does the word " Yoruba" mean? Some scholars have even claimed it to be derived from some Hausa word sort of. Pls go school yourself properly about your chequered history instead of turning facts over their head cos you know next to nothing. I leave it there.

The owners of real estate would always be its owners, thats present day reality we are talking about. Abuja is home to several properties of foreigners, how would the gwari's now lay claim to that? Such claims can only bat b made at drinking joints out of pure wishful thinking. Same goes to Lagos. Lots of those tall sky wrappers are owned by non indigenes, so can't you all now see the futility of your tribal tantrums.
There are those of you who only at best talk about it and admire the aesthetics of those places, while there are those who live in those places. That your forefathers once lived in those lands those not grant you any special privileges. Dangote is from Kano, yet he made billions in Lagos, same with Abdulsamad Rabiu, owner of BUA group, he is also a Kano indigene who's made billions of dollars from Lagos. Jim Ovia was once said to have bought and incredible amount of land in VI, he's not from Lagos, lots of choice properties and investments in Lagos are owned by the big wigs. These are the owners of those real estate, while you idle palm wine drinking distorters of history sitin your slums and braving with the investments of other people's fathers waiting for a governor to revoke land licences after 99 yrs. Shameful and pathetic!

obaaderemi:
Yes,thats what i meant when i said bini monarchy has yoruba blood.no,we are not related to the binis themselves except through the name'bini' which is a yoruba word.thanks for the clarification.

Save your breath, there are always two sides to every coin. While you claim Bini to be a Yoruba word, the word "Eko" is also believed to be a Bini word.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_State

Dumaknesset:
Your arguments are not only non sequitur but are fallacious, duplicitous and tendentious. the illogicality in your pontifications is quite astounding, you were in a hurry to impress that igbos now have a stake and you revealed the fluidity and constant flux in your brains.

This discourse is not dialectical, it is as straight as straight can be, you were just wishing to create pseudo polemics and impress with your addled brain arguments. I bit your bait just to guide you back into the article 's theme, but I guess you failed abysmally again to understand basic history posted by a corn for brain that string up hogwash and labelled it history of Lagos state.

Again you reduce the argument to your usual tu quo que fallacious posturing asking abrasively, how much land I have.
It is will be a great disservice to intellectually savvy people to engage a person like you in any discourse whatsoever, as I can glean from your hogwash you are more interested in hurling insults.

The law is clear section 28 of LUA 1978, all lands in Lagos state are owned by the governor of lagos State and you land purchasers are only holding it in trust for him for 99 years hence cofo and consent and same applies mutandi mutatis for lands in undeveloped area being owned by the local government, hence payment of ground rent and land use charge.

I have shown you the hiatus in your first post and there is absolutely no need reiterating it.

You have not succeeded in communicating any meaningful line of thought except confounding yourself even the more. This fact has been stated severally by even the Oba of Lagos himself. Like I said, even the Lagos state website adduces to this fact.
Now as for your 99 yrs theory, stop living in fools paradise, those so called governors you are waiting for the revoke land ownership certificates, are themselves land owners elsewhere. Dogs don't bite dogs! Rather I would still reiterate my earlier position to you, go and work hard and acquire landed property. Lazy folks like you are the ones who always hide behind communal ownership to cover for your gross inadequacies. Till the end of the world, lands in Lagos would always be sold to those with the means and that's what little minded tribal jingoists like you need to come to terms with. Even your Ooni the other day had to go marry an Edo princess-thats to tell you that your pointless historical distortions here are only to serve as mental relief to you and your co travellers. The elites are one tribe and are united by one blood (money).
There is nothing you can say or do now that would change the past, but as far as the present is concerned, lands in Lagos state would always be sold to whoever has the dough. So stop over flogging an issue that has no value as far as current day realities are concerned.

Dumaknesset:
The fact that the aworis presence predates the accommodation of the benin is a proof, so without any other documented proofs, aworis remain the first settlers. The first king is Ashipa and not the benin prince, besides the addition of benin be the landlords is your disingenuous addition. Lands are family owned in Yoruba land and at times communally owned and not by the Oba. All these facts are self evident in the article, still wondering where you got yours and why you deliberately want to mix things up.

Mr, what evidence have you that the Awori's were the first settlers. This argument is dialectical. Since you fight so hard (though ignorantly) that the Bini's weren't the first settlers, so what proof have you now that even the Awori's were the original settlers on that land. Your argument lacks historical currency, but rather, mere sentimental fireworks. However, you can't change what has been documented for over several centuries.
In you clever (or maybe dubious) maneuver, why eid you fail to answer to the analogy I stated earlier?
You have no points at all. Like I said, what is written cannot be changed. Meanwhile before you get too comfortable in your hallucinations of Yoruba owning Lagos - that's just for emotional relief. In today's world, you own as much as the land you can buy. So question is; how much land have you and your fellow "Lagos is Yoruba territory" singers been able to acquire? Even the Igbis who don't feature anywhere in this historical discourse have owned so much of Lagos' land and that can't be reversed. So better work hard and own yours instead of advancing sentimental claims that bear no relevance as far as modern day realities are concerned.

At times, one just gets lost reading the comments of mentally drained people. No one disputes the fact that Lagos had some inhabitants before the Bini's showed up, in fact it is agreed that the Awori's were there earlier. However, there isn't any proof that even the Awori's were the first inhabitants themselves. Nonetheless, the Bini's were landlords and kings in Lagos for many years even to this day.
Christopher Columbus the Italian is agreed to be the founder of America, that doesn't mean he didn't meet anyone there when he arrived. That the British colonized Nigeria, doesn't mean people weren't here before they came. That's the same way it is with the Bini's and Lagos.
Even the Lagos state government website clearly acknowledges this fact. Ignoramuses should quit arguing and learn some basic history.

HzRF:
Lol
No be pages of corruption we dey talk here
Ooo
For DAT category na him be number 1

Lol
Guy you got me really cracked up here.
I go with you 100%

Boss13:
Obasanjo is greater than jonathan. Read his book and books of others on him.

Are you kidding Most of those garbage Obj called books appear more like folktales.
The guy actually penned down a script for a comedy show and called it an autobiography. Obj is such a huge #ass joke!

eyeview:
Jonathan stands ahead by a long mile. Let's not forget that obasanjo spent millions trying to do third term against constitutional provisions.

Obasanjo's behavior of recent have been nothing but childish and embarrasing.

ACCESS BANK - 230,000
GT BANK - 210,000
DIAMOND - 242,000
UBA BANK - 142,000


Pls add or correct any of these with better facts.

Can anyone with authentic information furnish us with how much entry level for graduates earn in various Nigerian banks?

Its simply for purposes of comparison.just for us to know which banks are the highest payers and those doing poorly.

Kindly note that this shouldnt elicit any insults as only valid opinions are need.

My dear ghanians, Its church, not"chech"
Pastor, not"pastar".
Doctor, not Dactar
My fellow Nigerians,
Its bath, not"baff".
Our currency is called Naira, not"narrah"!
My dear Edo people,
Its argument, not"ajument"
(4 wetin na?)
My dear yorubas,
Its Air, not"hair"
Eight, not"hate"
Its Van Persie, not"Fan Persin".
My dear Ibadan peeps woh! hmmmmm...
Its not"sun tissu"its
sean tizzle!
Its not"siro"but zero!
My dear Hausa people,
Its fifty, not"pipty".
Its people, not"fiffle".
Its five, not"pipe".
Glo, not"gilo"!
Seriously it is"Tuface weds Annie Macauley",
stop
saying"Toothpas te weds Animal calling"
My Egun people woh!
Its actually MTN and not NTM!!
My dear Calabar peeps!
Kindly note its love and not"rurf"!!
My Benue people,
its not Lick Loss, its Rick Ross
Lest I forget my close Igbo people!
There is nothing like"thaaasand" woh!
There is thousand!
It is Bedsheet and not Baysheet
And its thirty, not"thartie"!
My dear ghanians, Its church, not"chech"
Pastor, not"pastar".
Doctor, not Dactar
My fellow Nigerians,
Its bath, not"baff".
Our currency is called Naira, not"narrah"!
My dear Edo people,
Its argument, not"ajument"
(4 wetin na?)
My dear yorubas,
Its Air, not"hair"
Eight, not"hate"
Its Van Persie, not"Fan Persin".
My dear Ibadan peeps woh! hmmmmm...
Its not"sun tissu"its
sean tizzle!
Its not"siro"but zero!
My dear Hausa people,
Its fifty, not"pipty".
Its people, not"fiffle".
Its five, not"pipe".
Glo, not"gilo"!
Seriously it is"Tuface weds Annie Macauley",
stop
saying"Toothpas te weds Animal calling"
My Egun people woh!
Its actually MTN and not NTM!!
My dear Calabar peeps!
Kindly note its love and not"rurf"!!
My Benue people,
its not Lick Loss, its Rick Ross
Lest I forget my close Igbo people!
There is nothing like"thaaasand" woh!
There is thousand!
It is Bedsheet and not Baysheet
And its thirty, not"thartie"!
My dear ghanians, Its church, not"chech"
Pastor, not"pastar".
Doctor, not Dactar
My fellow Nigerians,
Its bath, not"baff".
Our currency is called Naira, not"narrah"!
My dear Edo people,
Its argument, not"ajument"
(4 wetin na?)
My dear yorubas,
Its Air, not"hair"
Eight, not"hate"
Its Van Persie, not"Fan Persin".
My dear Ibadan peeps woh! hmmmmm...
Its not"sun tissu"its
sean tizzle!
Its not"siro"but zero!
My dear Hausa people,
Its fifty, not"pipty".
Its people, not"fiffle".
Its five, not"pipe".
Glo, not"gilo"!
Seriously it is"Tuface weds Annie Macauley",
stop
saying"Toothpas te weds Animal calling"
My Egun people woh!
Its actually MTN and not NTM!!
My dear Calabar peeps!
Kindly note its love and not"rurf"!!
My Benue people,
its not Lick Loss, its Rick Ross
Lest I forget my close Igbo people!
There is nothing like"thaaasand" woh!
There is thousand!
It is Bedsheet and not Baysheet
And its thirty, not"thartie"!

sayemma:
You do not even know the meaning of a trojan horse...


Do you know how much dollar this administration is distributing to lobby for votes... that is what we call Greek gift that was use to set trol on fire and not your trojan horse...

Blind post

You Obviously lack basic knowledge of "contextual" use of words or phrases.

Well, if u cannot relate what a trojan horse means to the issue at hand, then u r obviously not supposed to be here and definately not worth talking to.

But for the record, this is the tale of the trojan horse. Now relate this to the topic dummy!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_Horse

On the 12th of March in Kaduna, the same Buhari stated that he wouldnt probe former corrupt politicians. This is obviously to shield the likes of Tinubu and Amaechi who r chronically corrupt. So the question is; what then makes him different from the rest?

ktqueeny: I have noticed that most peeps are put in marketing department after training. pls does anyone hav an idea on the criteria used for posting in departments I have noticed that most peeps are put in marketing department after training. pls does anyone hav an idea on the criteria used for posting in departments

as long as u r a fad trainee, u will be placed in marketing dept. There's no special criteria for selection. So get mentally and psychologically prepared

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To all of u who r just about resuming UBA training school, i guess dis may 27th set shld be abridged08 dats if its for B.Sc holders. Well just before u get carried away with excitement, let me hint it to u guys at UBA training school no be moi moi o. U guys wld jack until u almost run mad cos d materials u r going to be provided with r mega. Ask ppl who have written ICAN how dia materials usually r and den u'll have a fair idea of wat u r going to face at UBA TS. Don't try to do crash program reading o, cos it won't wrk. Make sure u start reading from day 1 cos dats d only way to pass. Ur cut off point for exam is 60% even if u score 59, u will be shown d way out. Dis is one place i can promise u guys dat connection DOESN'T work. Its only God's favor and mercy dat works. But u too have to play ur part. If u fail to score 60%, u will be DROPPED! There's no question abt dat. So for doz who think TS is flexing time an who also bliv if dey fail dey can get one big shot to influence it for dem, well just like i said earlier, connection will never wrk dia. Better get urselves ready for d task ahead its not easy at all. But here's gud news, if u r serious and focused, u will surely pass.
I wish u all goodluck!