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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 7:10am On Jan 26, 2015

Glutton for punishment, ehh?

https://memecrunch.com/meme/24FGU/im-shaking-in-my-little-space-boots/image.png

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 12:41am On Jan 26, 2015

EnlightenedSoul:
It's as if you're somehow not comfortable with the fact that he sees you at dirt, and always will. As I told Kid, he will never RETHINK his views.

The fact that you know all that tells me you're aware of the 'whys' of collapse, but who knows? You could as well choose to believe that it's due to the 'average' Somali having an IQ of - what was it - 68??

You've caught me at the wrong time to have sound sensible conversation about the subject, what with all of the rampant anti-AA/black trolling coming from that side. It must be answered in a language they understand.

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 11:59pm On Jan 25, 2015*

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 10:29pm On Jan 25, 2015*

barwaaqo:
David Steward I haven't seen him on the billionaire list One or two billionaires in a country that has been the most wealthiest on earth up until China over took it it a few minutes back is not the best thing. America is still the richest nation by assets and no other nation is even coming close when we talk military industrial complex.

Oprah and jordan Sport and Entertainment. Where are these billionaire AA businessmen Steward obviously must be paying a lot of overhead because he isn't on the list, even if he was that's it That's not anything for a people with AA numbers in what has been the most richest powerful nation in the history of the world. Economics control the social and the AA society is more raggedy than every street in mogadishu.

This isn't a battle it should be a dialogue we don't know what axum is could be another agent out to do a job. If we fall into his trap that won't say much about our intelligence. If you are not an insecure AA then you know already it's not anything Somalis can say or do that should hurt you to the point of wanting to indulge in some silly online battle with them.

I want to foster greater awareness of pan africanism throughout this discussion and more bickering with even more sides joining is just defeating the entire purpose.

David Steward's Worldwide Technology holdings, is the 3rd highest grossing privately held company it the city of St. Louis with a 5.04 billion dollar revenue in 2012. That's more than 5 times Somalia's entire GDP. Take a min let that sink in for a bit and then rethink your position that AAs, as many problems as we do have, are anywhere NEAR the level of crisis that somalis are in.

I don't know what fantasy world you live in, but the richest and most prosperous countries on the earth are the ones with where the median income wealth is the highest and the ones with the highest transparency rate for it's citizens to advance in class. The wealth of a nation is judged by it's most representative persons, the middle class and their ability to advance not by the aristocracy, fyi many, id say most in fact, of which come from old money families which have ties dating back to the slave industry and someway shape or form here in America and who's wealth continues to grow to this day. And you expect AAs to just be breaking into this mold so easily when even your average white american has a greater chance of being struck by lighting than to do it their selves? And your statement about the military industry only serves to fuel my point. How is frequent upward social ascension suppose to take place from the barrels of the working class when a fifth of these same peoples tax contributions don't go towards providing the amenities necessary for such but towards funding this nations rabid "defense"(aggression) campaigns? I mean, we're talking a one percent budget for public education and even less for small business loans. America of all of the 33 designated first world nations by the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Databook has the biggest discrepancy ratio of median wealth to mean wealth at 6.60 due to this country being so top heavy with it's wealth. So, yeah I'd say the market of become a billionaire in America is largely cornered by an extremely thick glass ceiling with the people who are already there and have been there for generations.

Now, lets talk about Somalia, because I see this is a subject you and other somalis keep trying to avoid, and how it's a nation on the most resource rich continent occupying the best strategic location on the continent with a long coast with vibrant fishing waters. So, exactly how is it that your people are having famines and literally dying of starvation over there? Not only that, but it's resources are largely untapped. There is MASSIVE opportunity there. Somalia was consider prime for investment at one time. Remember the America oli company Conoco’s had multimillions of dollars invested there, which many people speculate was the real reason for the deployment of troops to Somalia in 1992. But uhh.....you guys blew the lid of of that arrangement to say the least when blackhawk down happened and foreign visitors who invested in your Ubsom bank were kidnapped(Oh well, back to al-shabab style sharia halah banking then). Somalia has all of the natural tools set in place for your nation to be the shining star of both Africa and the Muslim world, so why is it instead the most economically barren place of both?

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 8:24pm On Jan 25, 2015

barwaaqo:
@Supper

Somalia has some very notable scientist and they won't be hard to find. One or two billionaires out of forty five million from the richest nation is not the best thing. Oprah trashes black people with her media and Jordan builds prisons for them after they buy his footwear.

Let us ignore this entity named axum barbari its like a fungi it needs to have its energy off others to survive

Oprah, Jordan huh

? Try self made success David Steward of St. Louis(I'll let you look him up). And America is far from the richest nation per capita or by raw numbers, no matter how you slice it. How about occupying the best strategic spot on the most resource rich continent? I WISH we had that opportunity. Mogadishu should be putting Qatar and the UAE to shame right now. Not receiving aid from them.

But, for guys like you, barwaaqo. It'd be best if you just stay out of this. Because sadly there are far too many far too many fanatical anti-jareer/adoon/madow/negro whatever terminology, ad infinitum, somalis who will go out of there way to do what they can to try and diss/harass AAs and other people of black African descent for us to not give them a dose of their own medicine. This is a rarely spoken about attitude ingrained deeply in the psyche of MOST somalis from what I can tell to some extent and is fostered to a greater extent when a group of them gets together. So, just minding our own business would mean for us letting them get away with throwing stones at us from their mm. thick glass house. Guys like you are the exception to the rule, thus why you and ES should just check out of the battle.

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 8:06pm On Jan 25, 2015

EnlightenedSoul:
Note: I personally deem the assortment of 'links' a nice touch as well, and there's def some points for ya in finding MF (lolz).

Friend of yours? lol

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 3:24pm On Jan 25, 2015*

How amusing to literally witness you go off in the deep end into the vacuous pool of zoomalinition with your ideological brethren. No seriously, do all you somalians possess the same exact style of completely illogical ranting void of any real facts while simultaneously claiming to have imaginary "evidence", because I feel deja vu just trying to decipher all of that random clusterfucked crap trying to pass off as a paragraph? I almost feel bad that I have to do this to ya. But, very well. If you insist.

Maakhir:
I was hoping for such a reaction.

You AA's were ignoring us

Your fellow idiot TerryCarr made this idiotic thread

https://www.nairaland.com/2070966/being-black-no-joy-somalians

So, let me get this straight. You had to go to a completely different thread that was simply a reposting of an article, not a diss thread, made in Jan. 1 who's last post was on Jan. 13 and you somehow think that this is comparable to me responding to a random zoomali going out of his way to take shots at my people in THIS VERY thread on the same day when AAs had not been engaging any of you somalians in for atleast a week? May I ask what Terry Carr's thread has to do with the price of tea in china? Or maybe it's as I said before and that everything for zoomalis works at a re-tard pace with little to no spacial relativism. So, in laymans terms, 2 weeks ago in a completely different thread for you is like a day ago in same thread for me given the difference in our brains' capabilities and the pace in which they work.

Maakhir:
You AA's are well known for your ghetto and gang violence, Killing each other on the streets

At least 23 people were killed in a Somali city from some primitive clan based violence.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/africa/At-least-23-killed-in-Somalia-clan-violence/-/1066/2598404/-/5lyfe3z/-/index.html

Better than inbred clan violence, killing each other in the villages(you people don't have any roadway infrastructure).

Maakhir:
you run away from your black heritage and claim the israelites (I'll bring evidence for this )

Right, so zoomalis claiming to be everything under the sun from Hamites, Dark Caucasians, Yemenites, Berbers, to the ancient Egyptians is suppose to be anymore honorable? FYI I can show post from axum/ajuran/somalia9 attesting to all of these asinine somali-centrist theories that have no academic validity whatsoever.

Maakhir:
you are considered filth of the earth by many of the inhabitants of the country you live in

List of just some of the countries around the world where Zoomalis are detested.

Sweden
http://www.somaliaonline.com/afrophobic-hate-crime-is-on-the-rise-in-sweden-and-the-somalis-bear-the-brunt-of-it/

Denmark
https://themuslimissue./2013/12/17/wake-up-call-denmark-shocked-at-muslim-somali-crime-numbers/comment-page-1/

Norway
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2006/04/somalis-destroy-norway/

The UK
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/sep/04/race.immigrationpolicy

Canada
http://africasacountry.com/rob-ford-and-canadas-somali-problem/

Saudi Arabia
http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/02/18/saudi-arabia-12000-somalis-expelled

Yemen
http://allafrica.com/stories/201303150294.html

Kenya
http://www.trust.org/item/20140407162525-4yvwx/

South Africa
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/africa/south-africa/131115/not-wanted-somalis-south-africa

and most of all SOMALIA
http://www.unhcr.org/5418057a9.html

So, as you can see your people's pisspoor reputation is worldwide even in your own nation, buddy boy. There's no AA equivalent of that.

Maakhir:
you leave twenty babymama's in your lifetime and you can't even look after your illegitimate children and take responsibility

Somalis have the highest rate of single parent(mother) households in the UK
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2666908/British-families-likely-tied-knot-moved-India-Sri-Lanka-Afghanistan.html

Maakhir:
you have the highest gay population rate in the world.

Is that why Somalia has seen a skyrocketing hiv rate in recent years compared to the rest of Africa which has seen a decline.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/09/stigma-impedes-hiv-treatment-somalia-201392214542398502.html

Could've fooled me.

Maakhir:
your own women abhorre you (and I can bring eveidence for this ) instead they chase after the white guy

Yeah, considering AA men marry out at a higher rate than AA women, I'd say this is another "somali-fact" fresh from the rectum of an uninformed envious Zoomali.
http://madamenoire.com/432922/swirl-interracial-couples-america-numbers/

BTW.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXv9Sq9Tdak

Maakhir:
You guy's have the lowest college entry rate in the USA

According to the US census 16.3 percent of US born blacks have obtained bachelors degrees.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Higher_education_in_the_US_by_race.svg/350px-Higher_education_in_the_US_by_race.svg.png

And well, I'll just let you look at the chart below on the statistics of Zoomali educational attainments and let you do the math. Hopefully that wont be too much for you to handle.

Maakhir:
Want me to continue?

If you'd like to continue to make a fool out of yourself and your people, then be my guest.

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 12:01pm On Jan 25, 2015*

axum:
I can't blame you for being so angry, you were bred like animal for hundreds of years to be so ugly, and ill mannered. Luckily god created Chicken and Watermelon too cool your Negro anger and appease you since you have no intellect, only the dumbest slaves were bred. You are the by product.
Ever wonder why your own people sold you into slavery? Talk about serious family problems.

I wish February was not next month, I have to listen to your peoples crazy history of enslavement and suffering for 28 days, luckily February is the shortest month of the year. White people definitely know Irony.

Well Gee, axbum, that's mighty rich coming from smellian cretin that comes from a long lineage of males with a stark penchant for cousin shagging intraclan inbreeding to the point where the walking-talking physical birth defects spawned from the poisoned gene pool from hell known as Zoomalis are virtually indistinguishable from each other with almost non-existent sexual dimorphism which is only compounded by primitive ceremonial traditions of mutilating their sisters' dirty little gentiles.

Researchers in Minnesota were baffled by the exponentially high rate of autism & retardation among the refugee zoomali community as well as the disturbingly strong drive for them to petition for the right to be able to legally wed their own first cousins which led them to connect the dots and put two and two together in order to get a groundbreaking glimpse into the general pea-brained activity of a zoomali archetype. Thus, it was determined that it was indeed this desire for cousin-poon that's so deeply ingrained in their psyche that has led to the semi-functional neurological activity of the Zoomalis cranial organ(you can hardly call it a brain).

To, the literate non-somalis, for more information about this shocking phenomenon you can read further on this subject by visiting this link.
http://isteve..com/2013/12/why-so-much-retardation-among-somalis.html

To, the barely cognitive somalis, however, I think I should inform you that yes we African-Americans do have a hard time fitting all of our history and accomplishments despite our struggle with slavery and jim crow into one month, seeing as our ancestors were contributing to the fields of medicine, agriculture, and metallurgy as soon as they touched the shores of America as slaves. This in itself is a struggle.

But, see you guys have it easy, because you have no notable history or accomplishments in your millennium long existence to speak of. So, there's no need for deliberation on what time of the year should be partitioned in honor of something that doesn't even exist- ie notable Zoomalis in history.

Though, I admit, I do find it annoying that I have to sit through 3 min long infomercials asking for a donation to help feed your starving family in their toilet bowl nation every time I turn on the television, as if it's my fault they're too stoopid to figure out how to feed themselves.

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 10:55am On Jan 25, 2015

Maakhir:
Not every somali is like axum, go ahead and offend him but not every somali by your ignorant comments

It wasn't even axbum this time, but of one of your other little crownies blabbering on in his ignorance about AAs and our past history with slavery in this country. That's who I was responding to. Go take up your issue with this reignited flame war with him as he started taking pot-shots when no AAs were even engaging somalis in this thread anymore. We try to leave you people alone, but you guys insist on poking the grizzly from the comfort your computers, so don't be surprised with you get the teeth. You guys are going to have to take some accountability for the dumb $hit some of you spew so freely on here.

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 7:58am On Jan 25, 2015

muafrika:
We are not xenophobic Supper, we house about one million Somali refugees, hundreds of thousands of Sudanese, and tens of thousands of Ethiopian, Congo, Rwandan and other refugees.

Have you heard others complaign? This is just how these people are,

You'll have to pardon my choice of terminology, as it was chosen to tie into a specific point I was making and it was that perhaps there's an perfectly valid underlying reason for the "xenophobia" that these Somalis seem to face where ever they go, even if it's venturing in the wrong clan's territory in their own nation, after all just a couple of days ago at least 23 people were killed in a Somali city from some primitive clan based violence.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/africa/At-least-23-killed-in-Somalia-clan-violence/-/1066/2598404/-/5lyfe3z/-/index.html

If Somalis can't even stand somalis how can they expect others to be able to stomach them? Why should the world to obligated to tolerate the intolerant?

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 6:39am On Jan 25, 2015*

The only thing most of us African-Americans know of the odd looking, forever obtuse, vermin-extraordinares, we've come to know and loath as zoomalians are from incidents like this one.

Good Samaritan African-American man jumped and beaten with baseball bats by 5 zoomalians for defending female gas station clerk
http://www.twincities.com/ci_15221280?nclick_check=1
(Between this and the gangs of underage sex groomers of AA girls, African-Americans in MN might need to take a page out of the book of South African & Kenyan xenophobia)

I mean, please do tell what else is there for my people or anyone for that matter to behold from a people who throughout their entire decrepit existence have failed to, for example, produce ONE notable figure in the field of science or ONE billionaire grossing start-up company while occupying not only the most resource rich continent on the planet, but probably the most strategically advantaged spot for both overseas and inland commerce on said continent, along with a whole list of other peculiar shortcomings when put together the bandwidth on this fiber-based connection wouldn't even be able to handle. huh

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 8:03am On Jan 16, 2015*

Maakhir:
Most of the Black American communities live in ghettos. Do not try claiming the achievements of white Americans as your own, the only thing I have seen black Americans contribute to on a mass scale is entertainment and sports. Many Black Americans live in situations as bad as the situations people face in Africa. Poverty, Violence and a whole lot of other problems.

Most African-Americans do not live below the poverty line. Also, what you could consider a "ghetto" is highly subjective, because to some people ghetto simply means any large enclave of a minority group. And I wouldn't be mouthing off about other people's contributions, because I'm pretty sure Somalis couldn't point out any notables that ring bells in the scientific community like George Washington Carver, Dr. Ben Carson, Mark Dean, and Lonnie G. Johnson, and wont be able to anytime soon seeing as it doesn't involve bragging about how soft your hair is or straight your nose it, which is the only(non-violent) thing Somalis seem to excel at.

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Culture › Re: Meet The Most Beautiful People On Earth- The Fulanis by Supper: 4:14am On Jan 15, 2015

Omarbah:
I knew about Omar Ibn Said and prince Abdul Rahman who actually from the same region as me, Futa Jallon. He actually went back to Africa, Liberia to be precise but never reached Futa. He died before. Oh how he could have told us secrets of western society back lol, we would have built a stronger economy in Futa to prepare for the French. But one day inshallah, one day...
I guess the few Fulanis that came to Us stayed true to their culture and religion. Hey, cattle herding is a lot easier than plantation work.

Oh, yes. It was actually US President John Quincy Adams who granted him his freedom at the request from the Sultan of Morocco at the time(makes you wonder what kind of enslaved man would possess THAT kind of clout with those connections.) The issue of him returning to the Jallon must of been urgent for him and his american-born wife to leave their child who, to be fair, were adults at the time, in Mississippi. His descendants still meet up in Natchez every year for their family reunion. Omar Ibn Said was from the Futa Toro but never made it back. Yarrow Mamout was another fula who was emancipated from slavery and managed to carve out a successful life as a business owner and homeowner in Maryland.

In an article written by plantation owner and ethnographer James Hamilton Couper, he goes into detail describing the Fulanis on his and other nearby Georgia plantations, as being remarkably intelligent and devout muslims. It's safe to say that the enslaved fulanis, in general, did what they could to maintain their integrity in such a harsh environment.

Culture › Re: Meet The Most Beautiful People On Earth- The Fulanis by Supper: 2:00am On Jan 15, 2015

Omarbah:
Could you elaborate more on this subject brother? I've heard many people relate cowboy culture in the states to Fulanis.

Already got it covered. I've made post that go in detail in the ways in which fulanis have influenced cowboy culture as well as other aspects of AA and general American culture here, and in previous comments on that thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/1371950/which-culture-strongest-influence-among/1#17198228

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Culture › Re: Which Culture Has The Strongest Influence Among The African Diaspora? by Supper: 7:39pm On Jan 14, 2015

Fulaman198:
Ok unbanned again Supper

Appreciated it. lol I'll just leave that post alone.

Culture › Re: Which Culture Has The Strongest Influence Among The African Diaspora? by Supper: 2:09pm On Jan 14, 2015*

[size=16pt]African influences on knowledge and technology in America pt.2[/size]

[size=15pt]Metallurgy: [/size]

As many of you probably know already up until the greater part of the 18th century West African metallurgy technology was far more advanced than than that of Europe. Well, what you probably don't know that these techniques brought by African slaves was used to fuel the iron industry in various parts of the Americas? I'll focus on what's today the US, but realize that it happened all over the Americas.

Maryland:

"According to Jean Libby, in her study of slave ironworkers in western Maryland, ironmaking was a well-developed craft in many West African societies. Comparing African iron production with that practiced in America, Libby found many similarities "in furnace technology and cultural practices." [92] There is some evidence that slave traders valued Africans with skills or at least those from iron-producing regions who might possess skills. [93] There also exists limited evidence that some slaves practiced their native skills in America. A 1760 newspaper advertisement, for instance, calls attention to a runaway slave "imported in 1760, so that he scarcely speaks any English, but can work at the Smith's Trade, having been employed in his own Country in that way." [94] Citing the recent arrival status of those buried at the Catoctin slave cemetery, Libby offers the hypothesis that Catoctin slave furnace workers may have had backgrounds as African iron workers and brought elements of African ironworking skills with them. [95] While provocative and fascinating, the Catoctin Furnace does not offer the sort of evidence needed to support such a claim. Nevertheless, if first generation African slaves did work at the furnace, they would have brought elements of West African culture with them to the Catoctins.""
http://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/cato/hrs2b.htm

Pennsylvania:

"Regardless of the way these individuals were obtained for forced labor, many of them were
possibly skilled in the art of iron making. The Journal of the British Iron and Steel Institute
noted in 1872 that ―it appears that the negro tribes in the interior of Africa, some 800 miles from
Natal, are extremely expert in the manufacture of wrought iron which they smelt in little clay
furnaces.‖177Despite the fact that outside observers such as Acrelius had seen slaves of African
descent working as laborers in unskilled professions, there were numerous accounts
demonstrating their proficiency in the skilled job areas of the ironworks as well. Scholar Arthur
Bining, for example, declared that while only a ―few skilled Negro workers were found at the
blast furnaces,‖ there were in fact many others ―who were employed at the forges‖ such as
―Green Lane, Durham, Martic, Pine, New Pine, Mount Joy (Valley), Charming, Pottsgrove, and
others.‖ Bining contended that many of these individuals even ―performed the skilled tasks of
refining and drawing iron into bars,‖ an occupation that was typically the highest skilled job
available at an ironworks."
http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bhp/blackhistory/african-american-labor-in-pennsylvania-1644-to-1860.pdf

[size=13pt]"African Ironmaking Culture Among African American Ironworkers in Western Maryland, 1760 - 1850."[/size]
http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=h-africa&month=9811&week=d&msg=IIUVbfbFpx1hzDGR55dU6g

[size=13pt]"Adinkra Symbols in New Orleans Ironwork"[/size]
http://flapjackslincoln.com/Abana-article.html

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Culture › Re: Which Culture Has The Strongest Influence Among The African Diaspora? by Supper: 2:00pm On Jan 14, 2015

[size=16pt]African influences on knowledge and technology in America pt.1[/size]

[size=15pt]Rice cultivation: [/size]

"While there is no consensus on how rice first reached the American coast, there is much debate over the contribution of African-born slaves to its successful cultivation. New research demonstrates that the European planters lacked prior knowledge of rice farming, while uncovering the long history of skilled rice cultivation in West Africa. Furthermore, Islamic, Portuguese, and Dutch traders all encountered and documented extensive rice cultivation in Africa before South Carolina was even settled. At first rice was treated like other crops, it was planted in fields and watered by rains. By the mid-18th century, planters used inland swamps to grow rice by accumulating water in a reservoir, then releasing the stored water as needed during the growing season for weeding and watering. Similarly, prior records detail Africans controlling springs and run off with earthen embankments for the same purposes of weeding and watering. Soon after this method emerged, a second evolution occurred, this time to tidewater production, a technique that had already been perfected by West African farmers. Instead of depending upon a reservoir of water, this technique required skilled manipulation of tidal flows and saline-freshwater interactions to attain high levels of productivity in the floodplains of rivers and streams. Changing from inland swamp cultivation to tidal production created higher expectations from plantation owners. Slaves became responsible for five acres of rice, three more than had been possible previously. Because of this new evidence coming to light, some historians contend that African-born slaves provided critical expertise in the cultivation of rice in South Carolina. The detailed and extensive rice cultivating systems increased demand for slave imports in South Carolina, doubling the slave population between 1750 and 1770. These slaves faced long days of backbreaking work and difficult tasks."
http://www.nps.gov/nr/twhp/wwwlps/lessons/3rice/3facts1.htm

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 4:49am On Jan 14, 2015

KidStranglehold:
@Rafikizolo

Good post.

@Supper

I heard Askia was religious muslim. Was he tolerant of non-Muslim? I know Sonni Ali Ber was very hard on Muslims some calling him a tyrant, but Askia was different.

His wiki article paints him as pretty tolerant of faiths.

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 9:25pm On Jan 13, 2015

KidStranglehold:
I don't want to become the Osama Bin Laden of this thread, but throughout African history there has never been a pan-African unity just as there has never been an Asian pan unity or European for that matter. The closest thing Africa has ever came to a pan unity was the Songhai Empire which united many different ethnicity's of West and North Africa. But other than that Africa has always been too diverse for one.

Funny you mention the Songhai as it was the largest state, whether empirical or democratic, to ever exist on the African continent with land that stretched south into the Savannah at Gao and north into the Sahara with cities like Agadez and Magrebin Taghaza. The Great Askia Muhammad established standardized trade measures and regulations, initiated the policing of trade routes and also established an organized tax system. This was to promote cultural hegemony and homogenize the land, and created a new identity among the elite- the "Songhai people" which really at the time wasn't an ethnic identity but could denote many people of many different ethnic groups living among the elite in Songhai, though I'm pretty sure that the Soninke people were the single largest contributor to the "Songhai identity", with the great Askia of Songhai being a soninke himself. Many people in the Songhai empire were "Songhaized" so to speak, but I don't think rulers like Askia were militantly Pan-African or Pan-Songhaist imposing their identity on different people, as they were known for being surprisingly tolerant and liberal of different ethnicities and religions for it's time.

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 11:25pm On Jan 12, 2015*

axum:
Where is Axbum, that is not in Somalia

I researched that article and can't find it online, seems like you made the article up and put your own header on it assuming Axum was in Somalia.

Wow, and it only took you an hour to figure that out. You're probably the first Zoomali online to discover image editing software. I'm so proud of you, axbum. *pats head*

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 8:37pm On Jan 12, 2015

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 3:21pm On Jan 12, 2015

axum:
SOMALIA NEEDS AID MONEY!!!!!!!!

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 2:49pm On Jan 12, 2015

axum:
The fufu nation must die

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 2:36pm On Jan 12, 2015

axum:
I guess the best you can do is talk to yourself and edit my words.

Hopefully your time will run out and your Monkey species will die out of HIV.

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 1:42pm On Jan 12, 2015*

axum:
The article itself shows that its used by a very very large number of people and their is a stigma associated with having darkskin, I have never seen anything like it before. I know in Somalia they have no such thing as all natural.

You are making me very agitated when you show all the jacked up crap that goes in the Zoomali community. You should stop, because you're making me and all other Zoomalis look like primitive neanderthals, and I don't want you to find out about how we zoomali boys have to wear hats and the zoomali girls have to wear bangs to hide our humongous, solar-eclipsing, foreheads.

So, if it makes any difference I want to offer you a chance to traffic my little sister from mogadishu over to your house so you and your homies can run a train on her, but just be gentle because she's still sore after taking it good from over 500 AMISOM bantus for a few bucks.

BTW....Can you teach me how to spell "whig"?

Wow, axbum, that's the most profound honest statement I've heard from you so far. But, I'll pass on the offer.

And it's "wig", my friend.

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 1:22pm On Jan 12, 2015

Radoillo:
LOL. Isn't it time you admitted you can't read English?

lol

Okay, so my shift's about to be over and I'm getting ready to clock out for the day. You ready to take over and babysit our resident refugee?

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 1:20pm On Jan 12, 2015

axum:
Are you making up your own quotes? That link says no such thing. And lol at Somali men bleaching hahahahaha

Word of advice, axbum: Just stop talking.

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 1:07pm On Jan 12, 2015

axum:
People in Somalia dont know anything about this, as it's not even made in their country. Meanwhile The Bantu nation is running around with women with Whigs on their head trying to decive the rest on humanity.

It was just last year that a scientific study said Black women are the ugliest of any race, and the Bantus started to argue by saying that Somali/Ethiopian women have nice hair and features. Lol.

axbum, do you enjoy the taste of your own foot or something? Now, people in somalia don't know much of anything, but if it's one thing they know about I guarantee you it's bleaching.

"I remember in Somalia, those skin products were being used by mostly Somali women and by some Somali men also. I remember women whispering to one another pointing the finger to a woman whose face was scarred due to the use of these harmful products. And I still remember one of the most popular products: it was call"
http://www.raxanreeb.com/2014/02/somali-phenomenon%E2%80%8B-skin-whitening-creams/

^^^^From yet another somali's mouth on a *SOMALI WEBSITE*. But, I guess everyone else is lying right. Who are you trying to convince? Yourself?

And that study you're referring to came out of the UK, a country that happens to have loads of somalis, in 2011 making it almost 4 years old, but I understand everything to you somalis works at a re-tard-pace so you guys typically catch on a little late. But, allow me to help you get up to speed in telling you that study the study was quickly refuted by numerous sources in academia for presenting bias, non-objective, partial information that largely reflects that man's and that man's only opinion. Not to mention he was realized from the journal and the article was pulled.

"Black Women Are Not (Rated) Less Attractive! Our Independent Analysis of the Add Health Dataset"
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201105/black-women-are-not-rated-less-attractive-our-independent-analysis-the-a

Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 12:45pm On Jan 12, 2015

axum:
That study was about Somali women who sell products from middle east such as skin lightening creams, which is very rare. This is contrast with Bantus who have been bleaching for hundreds of years and still wearings wigs in order to look like the Europeans who enslaved them.

At the end of the day you are a monkey, and your people have HIV. This is sad.

Right, so you basically can't read the article, because you're illiterate. Look axum, it's okay to say 'wallah help me read this, supper. I no know how durr", and I'll be glad to help spoon feed you the information as I've been doing thus far, after all your mental health disorder is not your fault- It's just genetics. I mean, why else would zoomalia have one of the lowest collective iq scores in the world.

So here, let me assist you.

"Adawe, who was born in Somalia, said she knows many Somali women who use the products. “You can tell who uses it and who doesn’t,” she said. “You can’t mistake it with naturally light-skin people. These creams give people more of yellowish color.”"

In laymen's terms, what that means, axum, is that there's an epidemic among your people trying to scrub the freakin' epidermis off their skin, because they're so desperate to achieve a lighter complexion. Any questions?

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 12:11pm On Jan 12, 2015*

axum:
Again you seek acceptance with such long paragraphs, and your jumping around different topics. Mental health issues is a broad phrase, and anyone who went through a war would have post traumatic stress.

Again, Your Bantu people are bleaching their skin, wearing wigs, while the rest are dying of HIV, EBOLA. Some of you are still hunting in the jungle while others are naked and walking around. The past 500 years of your history is nothing more than slavery and before that you have nothing to write about historically of any achievement.

Hey there, fat-head. I see you're still here and your spelling hasn't gotten any better. *shrugs*

Anyway, that's just rich coming from a people who's most notable moment in history is black hawk down and after that shooting up a mall in Nairobi. I mean honestly, other than that what have your people contributed to the world at any point in time other than serial dole blunging in western countries, sex grooming of underage girls, and selling your own somali females as comfort women at a bargained price across the globe? Let me go ahead and give you the answer to that as to not put your lame-brain under anymore stress: The answer is a big fat NOTHING/NADA/ZILCH. And me talking about your probable mental health disorder that you inherited just by being born a Zoomali is relevant to the discussion at hand, and a lot more so that the clear schizophrenic rants about slavery, ebola, and hiv(which your people contract more of pound for pound).

And maybe your insanity is rubbing off on me and I'm going crazy, but did I just see you mention skin bleaching? Lol Among African-Americans?

Projection much?

Somali woman researches health risks of skin-lightening practices
http://www.minnpost.com/community-sketchbook/2013/08/somali-woman-researches-health-risks-skin-lightening-practices

^^^From the horses mouth.

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 11:37am On Jan 12, 2015

axum:
I can't read that entire diatribe. But its already factually understood Somalia has one of the lowest HIV rates in the world. No country can go from being number 69 to 33 in one year as you stated. Should I trust goverement agencies of the USA and U.N. or a Bantu with no life?

Ebola, HIV, all the disease are caused by Bantus on this planet. If white people hadn't enslaved your kind, you would still be in some jungle eating Bushmeat or Monkeys like some of you still do. So keep doing what your people are good at, dying of HIV and putting wigs on your head.

I know you can't read it or anything else for that matter. That became apparent to me a couple of comments ago. You're clearly suffer from severe reading comprehension disorder and are probably borderline illiterate like most airhead Zoomalis, sadly. So, shame on me for thinking that you of all people could comprehend basic math let alone possibly discern statistics. I do apologize for putting your large, yet empty cranium through all of that mental torture.

Because along with having a skyrocketing hiv rate Somalia also has one of the highest rates for mental health disorders in the world, with 1 in 3 people there suffering for mental health issues.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24539989

So, you should probably just take a break for the internet for while or just go chill at zoomalinet where the intelligence, or should I say "impaired" curve is more your speed before you snap, go postal, and shoot up a mall or something. So, godspeed my gimp friend. I wish you all the best in your journey and do hope you learn to spell "government" along the way.

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Culture › Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 10:56am On Jan 12, 2015

axum:
All those new cases are on par with every year and the average percentage out of over 10million people still is the same, 4,000 cases a year is normal for a country with 10 million plus people with 0.5 percent infection rate.

Again the top 33 countries are All Negroids, these are collected by U.N. and Non profit organizations and Government organizations.

Somalia is much lower percentage wise on HIV, no HIV rate goes up that fast in one year, stop making up your own facts.

Ghana is Number 33 and Somalia is number 69 as of 2012, Your lying by saying in Just one year Somalia has higher rate than Ghana.

Uhhhh......Do you even know what that table you keep spamming with over and over with represents? Let me see if I can attempt to break it down in laymens terms to where even YOU can understand.

HIV/AIDS Adult Prevalence(your table)

1. The table represents only controls for rate in which adults, aged 15-49, in each country is living with hiv/aids, not the entire population. The figures I broke down did represent the entire population.

2. The table does not represent NEW hiv infections for the year, but those living with hiv which could've been contract at any point in their lives not just in that year. The figures I broke down only accounted for hiv infections that were contracted THAT YEAR.

3. Again, the table only represents data complied in 2012, while the figures I broke where those from 2013.

So we have here a table that represents a totally different age demographic, using a totally different time frame, complied in a total different year, yet in your mind that somehow contradicts the data I broke down in my previous comment? The two figures are completely unrelated. Please, tell me you're not that dense in the head.

Fact is that .03 percent of people in Ghana were newly infected by hiv in 2013, while .04 percent of people in Somalia were newly infected by hiv in 2013, giving Somalia a higher hiv infection rate than Ghana as of 2013. I used data straight from the UN registry. All of my sources can be verified, so please do attempt to show were I actually misrepresented any of the stats, instead of just spamming with that same table over and over which is completely unrelated to the figures I posted.

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