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Maybe you're right

But 300 javelin no be beans

Plus additional 1000 then why allow such a huge column of military formation advance towards Kiev

BTW I get my news from all source
Router, CNN fox AL Jazeera sputnik Tass Ria novosti globalsecurity orbit.info BBC msnbc and from many other sources

I then decide what to believe or not

BritishNaija:
Of all places you want to get news, Its Sputnik the one of the main Russia Media spreading propaganda and was banned by the EU and Youtube, Bro run away from that site if you want to be neutral.

They did not seize Any JAVALIN or NLAW but propaganda.

BritishNaija:
[/b]US Sent shipments of JAVALIN and missiles this year Same with Uk before the war, and more units arrived yesterday and today.

That's the 300 that arrived last month before the invasion. Am talking about the ones sent from Estonia 3 days ago


Also the ones sent by the US has been seized by Russia on friday

They should stop sending arms if it is only going to end in Russia hands

All these organizations are western bankrolled

Fifa, Eufa and the likes

And Europe do not yet have consensus on arming Ukraine
Hungary is washing its hands off
France leadership is not united with Macron posturing you would know he doesn't want this war
Even Poland with their antagonistic stance toward Russia is backing down

Georgia and Turkey will not want to have anything to do with despite Tbilisi history with Russia

Yes perspective differs but also China and NK does pose any immediate security threat to Russia at least not on the scale Nato does

GreatrAnalyst:
Well, perspectives are meant to differ.
But mark it, even if China or any country with mad leader like Kim of North Korea, with nukes in their arsenal pose a threat to Russia, Putin will think twice before invading them. Whatever he is doing to Ukraine now, it stems out of the fact that Ukraine is never a match in everything for Russia, yet, days later, they can't still totally subdue them.

Ukraine has never been part of EU, until now that her application to be part of EU is being filed, why would EU negotiate on the part of Ukraine. All the supports with ammunition has been by individual's countries and it is more like an indirect message to Putin that he goofed with his moves. Look at FIFA and co sanctions, I am sure FIFA is non-native of just Europe, they are passing a message to Putin.
More or less like saying NATO should help the two negotiate.

Manufacturers Yes

Who packaged and send them to Ukraine

BritishNaija:
JAVALIN US, NLAW UK.

Pls tell me which country supplied the javelin

BritishNaija:
I can not comprehend What you are trying to explain above, but I want to comment on the bold, Brother if you do not know the countries that supplied Ukraine JAVALIN, that means yoy have been left behind about the happenings.

You know more so you could tell us

Am always open to learning

Thomist:
So were you expecting them to call you for the pick up? So you are now wiser and strategic than EU? Why talking what you don't even know anything of?

True they don't want this war to happen

Not just because of good trade with Russia but also they've always played major roles in ushering peace into Europe since post world War 2

justli:
I love Hungary. They have no business with western imperialism.

I said 300+ tanks and other vehicles

It may be Armored reconnaissance vehicles, Armored personnel carriers, light tanks and many more...everything that ranged from tactical to transport to armor

Kelvin3476:
Lier... Ukraine doesn't have up to 300+ tanks

It's thievery nonetheless

joyandfaith:
He should also frozen their assets. Economic and cyber warfare are better than military confrontation.

Sorry but I see it as obsolete

France has better airplanes if they are interested in helping Ukraine
And capable pilots too

Preator:
MIG-29 is not obsolete. I doubt it will amount to much though other than a few days of nuisance. I wonder how the IFF on those will work since they are Russian made and will face Russian missiles.

I have no reply for you

CoronaVirusPro:
And Ukraine used Fulcrum to down (2) SU-35

Easy pick indeed

If Ukraine was so sure of its air dominance they would be sorties and taking out a massively compacted 40mile long column of Russian military hardware advancing on Ukraine

pacespot:
So you know more than USA intelligence which says just now that Ukraine still controls its airspace. If it is true how you painted the war, then what is stopping Russia from taking over the whole country? Because he who controls the air also controls the land combat in a modern warfare.

Tell those Nato countries to cross into Ukraine if they have balls

Shouldn't be so hard btw Latvia is very close and closer still is Poland they could cross the border with excuse of trying to bring about peace in their borders

Let's see what happens then.

I know Russia have its eyes on Latvia and Estonia

KingOKON:
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Tell that lunatic called Putin to bomb any NATO country if he gots balls

They are all warmongers and they will be put to shame

Great0ne1:
Is quite unbelievable. They are slowly tiptoeing into a potential nuclear war. We have idiots leading European countries. Is it really worth it, going to a nuclear war with a country like Russia, just because Ukraine refused to pledge neutrality ? Most university undergraduates would have managed this crises better than those power drunk fools, particularly US and UK

Is not only Rubicorn
It's Hannibal at the gates

After crossing the Rubicon let them cross the alps but they should cross into Ukraine and let's see

ivolt:
Your crying just begin.
The EU has almost crossed the rubicon, when it does.
There would be no dragging of feet.

True

But touching a country's reserve is thievery and this is the first time am hearing someone wants to sieze another's reserve

Well let's see how it goes

laiperi:
Please educate us. Where do those foreign countries where you put your Foreign Reserve keep their own Reserve?

You behave like a country called Nigeria and even authoritarian country like Iran, you will be treated as such.

Keep your Reserve in your country, do not launder it out like Nigeria.

China and North Korea do not pose any security threat to Russia

Nato does

EU should look at de escalating by negotiating, and that's what Macron is trying to do but those European war mongers want to see Russia gobble up Ukraine

GreatrAnalyst:
Not saying that EU is doing the best or not, but what do you think that EU should have done better? Continue to look as a superior nation squeezes to death a neighboring country?

Two wrongs don't make a right, however Russia started in the wrong first for invading a sovereign state to squash her because she feels she's superior in every sense. I'm sure Russia won't try that with China or even North Korea.

What should concerned countries have done including EU, because supports have been coming not only from EU?

To stop this crisis is in the hands of Zelensky

sandra50:
Then pull your Putin out of Ukraine so that they can stop the supplies or you mean they should fold their hands and watch while being killed?

Mig 29 and Su 27 you say

Hmmm

Good for them

So with all the great aircraft France has and with all their western re-orientation and with all the joint Nato drills and with all the boasting of joining Nato neither Nato nor Ukraine saw it fit to had trained pilots to fly western planes and replace their outdated Soviet Era fighter jets
Since 2014 to now
That's 8 years

Does Nato really have Ukraine best interest at heart

olugabbie:
The Ukrainian pilot will not be able to fly the Western fighter jets. They can only fly soviet era fighter jets like Mig-29 & SU-27.

As in

Gireiboy:
Bro you also forgot to mention that the Jet fighters are also Russian made

Those anti tanks should have been used today on that massive 40mile long column of Russian hardware advancing towards Kiev

If truly they received those Javelins from Estonia and Latvia

I saw in a Russian website on Sunday that the shipment was intercepted by Russian military

idahme:
You are correct, no nation that knows it's onion goes to the battle did without misile defense shield to protect the air in addition to it's always airraft.

Those weaponry been sent to Ukraine especially anti tank and air defence systems will be a game changer for Ukraine because they are lacking in air dominance.

True and to think they are the cause of all this problem Ukraine is facing now

The West is greedy with their never ending expansion and ambition

Their appetite for wanting to control the rest of the world and their hegemony in Central europe

TrueNigerian300:
Lol. At the bolded none of this foolish countries cheering them want to die for them none of them want to even sacrifice oil price for Ukraine. Yet the stupid president think they think about Ukraine. Go and hear what PM of UK is saying only Ukrainian who has relative or friend in the UK would be allowed as refuge. Why can't they all share those who want to live Ukraine among thelmselves? The answer is refuges are liability and none of them want that responsibility. As it is now Putin already said they are prepared for anything including nuclear.

No

They should fight

Even though this war is not theirs to fight

Ukraine is a staging ground for a bigger conflict or for the avoidance of a bigger conflict
Escalate to de-escalate

newoffer:
Can u hear yourself. Are you expecting Ukraine to fold their alms

True but Russia will only do that thru security guarantees

Either at the negotiation table or by carving out east Ukraine for a buffer

frugal:
What makes Russia more special than Ukraine?

The war could end in the next few seconds if Russia calls back its troops.

They will mostly fly to a nearby base close to Lvov or around but not too close to Kiev

Astoria:
Ignore the ignorant ones. Those pilots will be on a suicide mission on their return.

He can negotiate now and cut himself and his country a good deal now that things are still not so bad

Is it when he's lost Mauripol to Donesk rebels or Kiev has been effectively occupied

Now is the best time

They are trying to cut him out of the Azov sea
See the movement of Russia troop and Donesk rebels and the occupation of Berdyansk (Port city in the southeast) and you will understand

Skyview01:
So what do you suggest, Zelensky folds his arm and allow his country to be invaded and plundered. This is not Nigeria but Ukraine we are talking about.

Those aircrafts are obsolete and an easy pick for even the most outdated MANPADS or SPAAG. Old Soviet aircraft, the Soviet of old were not known for having the best aircraft
If you want good aircraft in Europe go to France many of their 2nd and 3rd generation aircraft are great for air supremacy contest

But not good enough enough when S300 and S400 are involved

doffman:
You get it .

Sending those Aircraft cannot help Ukraine .

Russian S-400 can destroy them .

It will only make Russian to be more aggressive .

Is it the same convoy that was shared on SM today.? That's convoy they say is over 40 miles?
A convoy that large has S400 air defence regiment no doubt
And the best 4th generation fighter aircraft with the best trained pilot will have a hard time evading such sophisticated air defence system.
S400 still remains the best in air and missile defence in the world
What aircraft does Ukraine use, su29??

Like said earlier the best way to harras that column is to hit it at multiple weak spot....a column of 40miles passing through forest area is vulnerable
That's like from Oshodi to Sagamu

Hit it hard at the flanks and rear with anti armor with the javelin if truly they received that Javelin shipment from Estonia and Latvia.

With stealth and coordination they will be able to halt the advance of that convoy even without air cover

Don't just send aircraft for sorties to be down and used for precision practice by Russian s400 adding more to the the notorious reputation of S400

And aircrafts are expensive

Damn.....
War is not gragra....you have to think and be strategic

BritishNaija:
Ukraine have above 200, Russians are just doing random bombing, Addition over 70 jets are being picked up as we speak.

Let me add, Ukraine Airforce did a terrific damages to russian convoy today.

Touching another country foreign reserve is thievery and a declaration of war

I hope you know that

KingEverest:
Putin did noting forget all those articles currently they have frozen all Russias foreign reserves that are in dollars

Then you must know the city they are based in or their operating base in Ukraine

First how many aircraft do you think Ukraine has?
And how is left operational?

BritishNaija:
Russian do not control the Airspace of Kiev, Its not easy to attack the particular place they are based as russian jets risk getting shut down.

Not get them
They can't get a column that compact and armored

But they can harras them from the flanks and the rear if the have enough anti tank, stealth and coordination.

It may help demoralize the opponent but then what do I know of Russian morale

HBB1:
How is that impossible?

And how do you think the Ukranians will get them without air support?

Now we are agreeing on the same thing

Russia controls the air in Ukraine

If Ukraine still has aircraft they will want the location of it hidden away from Russian missile strike

BritishNaija:
They need it, expecially for low flying objects. You should know that Ukraine jets are very much outnumbered compared to russia.
The Anti tank is well needed, and have been dealing with russian armored vehicles