₦airaland Forum

Ukrainians, while retreating from Lisichansk tried destroying some administrative buildings. Include the city administration centre which was attacked with a Tochka U missile

Cc Drenimarcus

Drenimarcus:
Lisychansk taken. Does this mean LNR is liberated?

Cc svlla.

True, just saw the update

Lisichansk is now in LPR hands

Good, very good

Onigawara:
The comment made me laugh for like 2 minutes

I feel like tagging the whole nairaland members to come see it

Aswear, that guy should stop commenting on foreign affairs

Onigawara:
Did you even read what I wrote? Please go through what I wrote slowly, and not ignorantly okay?

Let me address all that you wrote step by step


I clearly said in my wrote up that Russia would use ICBM on US aircraft carriers if they are ducked in their naval base and if the USA decides to move them to the sea, then the Russians would send their destroyers equipped with hypersonic missiles and nuclear powered submarine after them. Did you ignorantly skip that part? Seems you did.

you have no military knowledge. ICBM are long range missiles designed to carry both nuclear and conventional warheads as with most nuclear missiles. The iskander is a nuclear missiles as well. But it has capability to also carry not just nuclear warheads, but conventional warheads too, which is why the Russians, are using it in Ukraine

you are ignorant of space satellite. Russia has a team that constantly monitors the movement of us naval equipments via satellite. The USA also has a team that keeps tab on Russian vessel movement. The fact that you think the ocean is too big, hence satellites which literally sees everywhere on this damn earth wouldn't be able to see ship movement is beyond ridiculous. It is laughable


With this reply I should honestly stop replying you cc; svlla see this comment


An aircraft carrier doesn't have any defense whatsoever, apart from maybe a Sam battery that is usually mounted on it. The job of the ship is just to move aircrafts. It relies on other ships eg destroyers frigates and anti air and anti ship missile carrying warships to protect it. All you wrote there is trash sorry to say

That guy has smelly fart in his brain

BritishNaija:
And again, even if you manage to detect carrier with a satelite, you only have [b]15 minutes window Before the orbiting of the satelite lose contact,[/b]that is if the vessel is not moving, talkless of moving( this shows you do not have the knowledge of how satelite orbits in space).

Orbiting of the satelite lose contact in 15 minutes

Gosh! Am embarrassed for this guy

Am only just seeing this now

Pls don't ever talk about satelites here again

BritishNaija:
Again, No one knows Where US Aircraft carriers are in, in Any given moment. (This is another place you are dead wrong, it shows you don't know how big the Ocean is and how difficult it is to track vessels)


And again, even if you manage to detect carrier with a satelite, you only have 15 minutes window Before the orbiting of the satelite lose contact, that is if the vessel is not moving, talkless of moving( this shows you do not have the knowledge of how satelite orbits in space).

Another dumb assertion from Mr Know Nothing

So Aircraft carriers are now stealth that you can't effectively track them

Sorry but I must tell you the truth, You have congealed cement in place of brain cells

In your definition of satellites only geostationary satelites are satelittes abi

For someone that boast alot, now tell me how much distance a satelite can cover in 15minutes?

It's a simple question, if you fail it then you should henceforth stop posting here on nairaland to avoid further embarrassment

BritishNaija:
Mr Hypersonic and one of the Dumb fella that argues without knowing nothing, I can't engage in arguement with you, and deal with. It will be insult to my inteligence, all i can do is School you when you are wrong.

There is this saying; He who knows and knows that he knows, follow him, for he's Wise.

But He who knows not, But knows not that he knows not, Shun him, He's a Fool.
The lattar saying depicts You.

I can bet my balls that you don't even know what Radar is

Radar and Avionics expert

Drenimarcus:
Artillery doing cooking. Too many losses.

Reading that Russia has left the snake island due to UN.

Leaving snake Island was a smart decision since its now within range of artillery fire and Russia don’t need it to control the black sea or take Odessa

Remember earlier we discussed about the Odessa operation and the possible means to take it, whether thru amphibious landing or going thru Nikolaiv

I think Russian MoD has done the maths and seen the best course of action to take

baralatie:
Russian recognized distance is 1000 m
As for china they don't have it

1000m as in 1km??

Pls use Google to search
Khinzal
Kalibr
Tsirkon
Iskander
Avangard hypersonic glyde vehicle

Look specifically for operational range and speed

BritishNaija:
Mr go and Research not me, you don't know the capabilitiesof f-35, this was how Mr Hypersonic took His luck to quora and get schooled.

Taking out Russia S-400 systems have already be done and dusted by US. Or you don't or have not heard of Radar jammers? You people will just be Typing rubbish without knowing anything.

And Russia does not have radar jammer and ways of countering jamming by electronic means? Oh but you don't know that some radars are for anti jamming and electronic warfare

You're a very dumb individual who knows absolutely nothing about radio detection yet claiming expert in radar and avionics

Your Stupidity is marvelling

Onigawara:
They're just not good with missile and rocket technology. Even way back to their face off with the soviet union.. They always researched aircrafts while the USSR went with ballistic and cruise missiles.

Then, they had the advantage because missiles were less accurate and without Intel, you couldn't locate and take out targerts compared to aircrafts that could enter enemy territory with instruction to take out any target seen in the environments. Also, then, SAM'S were almost non existent then. Countries relied on those mounted AA weapons which weren't really impressive.

Now is it even possible for an aircraft to entire the territory of another country with competent Sam batteries and expect to not be shot down? I think it's suicidal. If you're not taken down by Long SAM'S, then Short SAM'S are there too. If not that there are still MANPADS and truck mounted AA's.
Some believe the claims of the USA and lapdogs that F-35 and F-22 are stealthy against all raders. I asked one us military officer on reddit sometime ago, about this, and his reply was that he's not really sure because they've not had the opportunity to observe Russian high tech raders. Nonetheless, F-22 and F-35 are ABSOLUTELY not stealthy again early warning rader systems. These are raders that alarm border defence corps of breaches by other country aircrafts. Then in responds, they send their own interceptor aircrafts over them...


So my brother, if a long range SAM doesn't take down enemy aircrafts, then a short one would or even a manpad or the aircrafts of the attacked country itself.

Meanwhile, missiles on the other hand are getting better and better. They fly faster. Can carry decoys, and fly lower for the cruise missiles. Russia already has numerous high tech missiles compared to the USA. Iskander ballistic missile is there for short range. Yars-24 and sarmat are there for long range. Bulava is there for medium range (I think even unlimited since it's submarine based). All hypersonic. Cruise milssiles na he even plenty pass including the hypersonic ones

Meanwhile, the only competent missiles I can really acknowledge in the arsenal of USA are minuteman for ballistic and Tomahawk fir cruise which both ofcourse lags miles behind the ones russia possesses in terms of range, speed, blast yield and overall capability.

Russia knows that USA has the advantage in aircraft which is why she has invested in Sam's. Meanwhile, what has the USA got to defend against Russian ICBM's and ship based hypersonic missiles? Na THAAD? I laugh

Even military.com a us owned military site has said it would take just 10 Russian hypersonic missile to sink the most advanced us aircraft carrier which is the USS Gerald. Meaning it could take less for the less advanced ones.

This is exactly what I was explaining to that guy you quoted earlier that Russia has adequate countermeasures for US most advance weaponry but US don't have countermeasures for Russian systems

seunny4lif:
What do you expect
People that believe Rambo defeated over 100K USSR troops

Asin they are so brainwashed to the point that they can't think for themselves anymore.

If not for this Russian Ukrainian crisis that has exposed alot of thing many of them will still be living in fantasy land

Onigawara:
In a conflict with a competent military like mother russia or China, the USA would lose all its aircraft carriers in just the first week of the war. Meanwhile aircrafts are pretty useless long range weapons because they will run out of fuel before reaching their targets if the target is thousands of kilometers away from the border of the aurcraft operator. Ofcourse there are aircrafts too that refuel fighter jets mid air. But like heavy bombers, they're slow and big meaning even the most shitty SAM could take them down in one go, not to even talk about S300, S400 and other proven SAM batteries.


That USA you keep seeing displaying their aircraft carriers, military hardwares and troops in glossy uniforms. Wait till you see them fight an actual competent enemy without nukes. The world realize how vulnerable they are. There is a reason why they keep shying away from engaging mother russia physically in a fight, despite according to western media's, they have more than 20 allies in NATO hence would steamroll russia or China. Their leaders may be useless but I'm sure they're not delusional enough to agree with this common superstition.

This is the Era of long range weapons and improved antiballistics and anti aircraft weaponry

And the US seem to be trailing behind Russia and China

Despite several billions of dollars they've invested in hypersonic missiles they are still coming short

BritishNaija:
But you can't destroy their Jet Aircraft, and They keep building more powerful ones.

Another yeye talk from Mr Avionics

US is still failling with Mach5 hypersonic test. They might just be a century behind Russia in this tech

seunny4lif:
No wonder Boris is looking for Russia scientists up and down.
I’m not even surprised when South Korea, a very big USA allied went to Russia for help on their anti ships, and air defence missiles was when I knew that USA are not good with Rocket science.

Most of NAZI scientists were moved to USA to help USA government and USSR moved some to USSR to help them too.
India, China, Iran and NK all built their missiles on Russia and USSR technology.

I keep telling them here that when it comes to rocket science US is no where close to Russia

Hollywood has brainwashed this generation. They can't read anymore because they get all their education from Hollywood and it's MSM wing

The ratio of 1-10 is the OP putting it mildly

I think a much larger ratio is at play here, something between a 1-15 and 1-20 but this is me being economical too

It may even be up to 1-50 casualty ratio. There are now reports of days or even weeks go by without Russia having a single KIA in the battle of Donbas

Cc Drenimarcus

panafrican:
Does Erdogan understand the days of the OTTOMAN EMPIRE are over?

Even during the days of the OTTOMAN EMPIRE Russia is known to always whoop them and take things from them

Drenimarcus:
Units of the Allied forces took control of the Lisichansk oil refinery. The highway to Seversk has been cut.

CC SVLLA.

Then the cauldron is close

They've put a lid to it

alcuin:
Do you have a comprehension problem?

Aren't we talking about military toys in the thread ever since? Does it matter if it is Israel or USA? The point remains that F-16 (USA military tech) was shot down by Pantsir S1 (Russian tech). And that proves his point. Does it not?

Do you know that some military experts even put Israeli SAM or GTAM David ahead of USA Patriot?

He doesn't just have comprehension problems but seriously mental disabilities

For a scam, fraudulent radar and Avionics expert

BritishNaija:
You have no brains and your excuses hold No water, Quora with public contributions, you have turned already to Western property.

Go back to Quora and write What I told you and stop wasting time, Just only been schooled on your first question, you ran out and start blabbing here. Go to quora and write why you are so Sure that Russia military is Stronger than US and ask for opinion, I will gladly reply, No more clowning on Nairaland.

Dumbo

At least now you agree that am better than you in your so called radar and Avionics expertise

Talk about radar and let me school you

Export reasons

BritishNaija:
Funny you. I want you to post like you claimed here on quora, that Russia Military is superior to US, I want to check something, Lolz.

Don't be stupid mahn, Quora is western bias

I told you this earlier. Stop the back and forth mahn

Svlla:
Who doesn't know quora is western bias and you're looking for help but then I will post a topic on quora and share a link here for you and I to do each other.

And I bet you, it's going to be on radar

You want it to be Russia vs US on a western forum funny man

It's going to be on radar

Mark this space. I will share the link here in 2hours time

And this your post claiming you're expert in avionics

BritishNaija:
You be mumu. Arguing with someone that have Worked on Radar, Avionics and Co. I told you i will wait for you to climb out which you couldn't, Before I start blasting.
What do you know in Aviation? This sites is up with your likes trying to form to educated when you bearly know next to nothing.

Like I said earlier, you don't know anything. I will school you in radar and Avionics

If you're expecting a Russian military is better than US military post from me on quora then you're delusional. I won't make a post for Western and Eastern armchair generals to start comparing cocks

Am taking you on as a radar expert that you are

This is the topic
Can the AGM-88E HARM misiles of F16, F35 take out a S300V 9S15MT BILL BOARD all-round surveillance radar in a hypothetical scenario and at what range, considering EW and jamming capabilities of both side?Pls reply with respect to burnthrough range, jamming range and other radar detection of both systems

So stop wasting my time

You have 5 hours to do your homework before replying

Cheers

BritishNaija:
My mode Right now.

Enjoy

I will give you till 6pm to come up with something so your food could digest. I don't want you to choke

6pm

BritishNaija:
Someone is still crying. Here is the reply to your Stupid question on.Quora, Credit goes BJ Lewis that Finished you in one reply, leaving your scared of your keyboard for reply, (I'm Very certain the Distance between you and your keyboard after that reply is 1mile out, Lolz)
It can do a hell of a lot more than that, mate!

I'll give you a quick overview, but if you don't like acronyms, your in for a rough time, the military loves them, see how you go..

The JSF (Joint strike fighter) programme was born out of the 1993 JAST (Joint Advanced Strike Technologies) studies into what is called ‘network-centric-warfare' and how to link up & data-link, and thus ‘meld’ all of an allied forces units together, allowing them to not just communicate, but to actively integrate & share all their battlespace data, radar & sensor's knowledge with each other..and ACT together as a compound ‘swarm' of variois capabilities..almost like a tech version of a ‘hive mind' for military machines..

Even as far back as the late 90’s it was already quite feasible to give whichever fighter would soon be selected as the JSF, (now F-35) full C4ISR (Command, Control, Communications & Computers + Intelligence, Surveillance & Reconnaissance) capability..

F35 has the Northrop Grumman IAMD (Integrated Air & Missile Defence) ‘Battle Command System’ and MADL (Multifunction Advanced Data-Linking) to help it connect with, and use & guide, all other IAMD capable units (like Patriot & other theatre-missile-defence units, for example)..and aid in their much improved accuracy & response times, using its own sensor-fusioned radar data & IFCS (Integrated Fire Control System)..as well as their CNI (Comms, Nav & Ident) integrated avionics.

F-35 can do EVERYTHING, any other modern military machine can do, in the technical & electronic realms, (with the possible exception of a sub's sonar, admittedly)..and a whole lot more than most..It can request & control other allied aircraft or naval vessel’s weapons, like a Stealthy mini-AWACS aircraft..saving its own weapons, or simply negating the need to deploy its own at all, if none are available that would fit the bill..

So, for example, if an F-35 needs a cruise missile, and isn't currently carrying one, because its mostly armed for Air-to-Air at this time..

Then it uses it's IAMD & ‘requests one’ from the nearest allied aircraft, ship or sub that's carrying one, to prosecute the attack for it instead..this way the F35 remains fully stealthy, (both literally & politically, allowing other less secretive units to take public credit for the strike, and allowing a high degree of political deniability) and keep all its own ord on-board, for its own defence needs, more relevant to its own stealthier mission..

You may want to google ‘Project Riot' for more info about these kinds of tests..(Like how in September last year, 2019, about how an F-35 detected a long-range missile launch, and immediately shared that threat/data to an orbiting U2 ‘Dragon Lady' asset, and a local ground commander)..’RIOT' was a skunkworks project, [now declassified] which tested the degree of integration of IAMD, and various agencies to covertly share such securely distribute such rapidly incoming ‘network-centric-warfare data’ and how its securely disseminated in time to be used for full effect, and best warning times.

But it assists other units with their own strikes too..or defence..let's say a Patriot battery.

The F-35 sees the incoming long-range missile threats much further away, and designates them, cueing in the nearest allied Patriot battery (well before it alone would've detected them), tracks them to the viable edge of the Patriot’s max effective kill range, and then IAMD..it ‘requests' the Patriot launch, and thus commands & controls the Patriot missile to much higher precision guidance to the threat, for the full, extended, maximum possible effective range intercept.

These are many of the factors that make these 5th gen machines so expensive, and so few people, (especially all the damn ‘keyboard kommando wannabes' worldwide!) FAIL to grasp yet..the JSF/F35 is far more than just a jet plane.

It is a stealthy airborne C4ISR asset..a flying command center, that is its own eyes, ears & AN/AAQ-37 DAS, (Distributed Apature System) EOTS, (Electro-optical Targeting System) and

It has the ability to act as a much more fully & comprehensive EW (Electronic Warfare) platform than the current Growler, and its AN/APG-81 AESA radar is also an extremely powerful jammer, as well as a radar, and it can be highly selective about using both capabilities at the same time..and which spectrum & the degree of jamming & bandwith required, to fully cover an assets own broadcast ranges..especially with regard to frequency-hopping & intended enemy attempts at counter jamming or other EW attempts..the F35 pilot can designate a particular enemy unit for such attention, or it can do the same for all of a certain type of tracked enemies emmiting in a particul range or manner..or just blanket the entire range of its radar's range & influence..while still having its own excellent secure, encrypted allied datalinks entirely unaffected.

It can fully jam ALL radio, radar and comms..and it can work on all of its long-range tracked ‘over the horizon' targets/requirements too..it doesn't even need direct LOS (Line Of Sight) to do it!

It is reported by an article in ‘Airforces Monthly' magazine's F-35 special multi-page report/article ‘Ultimate Weapon' that the power of its abilty is classified, but reported to be well in excess of “10x the power of all other legacy fighters" and I for one can believe it!

If anything, that's probably an underestimation, so as not to make all the Chinese cry in anger & outrage at their own domestic inability to come up to F35's exceptional real-world standards, no matter how much they might cyber-steal & spy on use, or attempt to manipulate..and the too-noisy, Russian Sukhoi fanboys might just want to do a bit of light reading of that article too..a few reality-checks abound, if they can handle it, too..

Anyway, I digress..I'm just damn glad we have F-35 here in ��, and now that we've also got our own domestically designed & made ‘Loyal Wingman' drones realised & flying..(soon to be fully operational!)..there will be no looking back, and Australia is once again leading the pack..almost all foreign allies are wanting in on Loyal Wingman.

Hope this answers your question, and plenty of others, to your satisfaction, mate..Enjoy..I sure as hell do, I'm lovin it!

Have a great day. Cheers

Stop posting other people's reply, reply your own abi na copy and paste you use finish school

The person you're even posting his reply jumped straight to F35 without discussing the radar and electronic warfare aspect and jamming

Point to Note; the F35 AGM-88E HARM misiles is external which am sure the person that reply do not know of

Stop trying to hard
This is the question;
Can the AGM-88E HARM misiles of F16, F35 take out a S300V 9S15MT BILL BOARD all-round surveillance radar in a hypothetical scenario and at what range, considering EW and jamming capabilities of both side?

Pls reply with respect to burnthrough range, jamming range and other radar detection of both systems?

It's as simple as that

So far no one was able to answer my question thoroughly in terms of range, EW, and Jamming

But BritishNaija you're an avionics and radar expert or so you claimed. So you should at least try to reply me here on nairaland or on quora

BritishNaija:
Lolz At bold, see painment. As long As you think like the russians, that is for you too lolz, deal with it. Quora have messes you up, i tried to brush you up As a Brother yesterday, But you keep living in denial, now your case have gone international, Please reply dumbly to one of those replies Mr hypersonic, I want to check something lolz.

That's the problem with you

I gave you many options yesterday

Engage me on radar and Avionics here on nairaland since you claim to be an expert. No
Then on Quora. No

But it was so easy for you to open your mouth waaaa to claim expert on radar and Avionics.
Something you can never be even if given 10years seeing that your lack the education and technical background.

I will school you on many things boy, even on how to bed your wife.

We are not mate

It's until 12noon I will have your time proper

BritishNaija:
Please go and meet Mr hypersonic, both of you are in same levels if reasoning, (dull phase), I will hence reply reasonable minds.

Don't be stupid....reply the guys post

Am also waiting for you to reply his post

BritishNaija:
You are wasting your time, return to quora and counter those claims as you dumbly do, I want to check something, don't run away, you think is nairaland were you dummies we say Yes to you dumbness?

This reply from Kurt as screenshot best describe you.

Foool

So I now agit or vaporware

Or do I sell fertilizers

If you can't see that shade is for Russia then your dumb

BTW....you are the one who mentioned Quora, reddit

Instead of going to read other people's reply you should post yours

Na you start fight, na you dey run

You still have near 40minutes to defend your honour

BritishNaija:
Me reply you with Zero knowledge you have? Ah, that was done and dusted yesterday Before you decided to go and clown on quora and got schooled the more, I can't stop laughing.

Its true Nigerians are intellectually lazy

For someone that boast knowledgeable in radio detection and range you still can not use one radar terminology in replying me

It's disappointing. Never, ever claim what you're not

Mr Avionics, you've been bursted

This is the link

https://www.quora.com/unanswered/Can-the-AGM-88E-HARM-misiles-of-F16-F35-take-out-a-S300V-9S15MT-BILL-BOARD-all-round-surveillance-radar-in-a-hypothetical-scenario-and-at-what-range-considering-EW-and-jamming-capabilities-of-both-side

For any one that's want to check it out

@BritishNaija 12noon.
Else.......

BritishNaija

1 hour, by 12noon sharp

If i don't see your reply then don't ever claim shit on this forum again

I've made it a whole easier for you Mr. Avionics