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Then why the need to transfer 1000 anti tank and over 300 portable air defence systems to Ukraine

Look at the weapons The West said it will send to Ukraine that should tell you something

BritishNaija:
Brother leave russian propaganda. The sky of kieV is highly contested, here is Ukraine Missile defence going off in kieve below.

And another Missile strucking russian plane.

I thought this meeting was scheduled for 1pm local time today abi e don finish already

Brussels na +1 na same with Nigeria

I don't know if this is true but that implies that Russia controls Ukrainian airspace, if Ukrainian aircraft are shot down from Ukrainian sky

So we are saying the same thing

BritishNaija:
Brother Ukraine Airforce still operates from kiev, Two Ukrainian Pilots was killed during a dogfight, one male one female.

The capture of Enerhodar yesterday, a far flungged city at the northwest area just around the Polish Ukraine border was a strategic move by Russia to cut out every aid coming from Poland

Russia worries of relieve coming from Poland because of its history with Poland. Slovakia and Romania are of no immediate threat, Hungary has ruled out aid of any form going through its border, Hungary foreign minister also said they will not be sending lethal aid to Ukraine. So it's mostly Poland that is playing conduit for Nato/EU transfer of arms to Ukraine

Svlla:
No Ukrainian aircraft can operate within Kiev
Between Kiev to Kharkiv (both cities are quite close) and west and north of Kiev are Russian forces with anti air and their are two additional advances from the North West and southeast. Kiev is under siege

No Ukrainian aircraft can operate within Kiev
Between Kiev to Kharkiv (both cities are quite close) and west and north of Kiev are Russian forces with anti air and their are two additional advances from the North West and southeast. Kiev is under siege

BritishNaija:
Commercial NO. Ukrainian Airforce still operates from kiev.

On the contrary, it is Russain air and ground anti air units that control Ukrainian airspace since Saturday morning that was confirmed

Right now no one can enter Ukraine especially Kiev by air
Only area close to Polish borders are clear for foreign aircraft to operate but its a big risk

No EU country will send an aircraft to Ukraine now that the reason they are asking the Ukrainians to pick this aircraft themselves

BritishNaija:
Please there is No Russia Air defence in Ukraine rather Russian war jets going To and Fro, Ukrainian military still controls significant parts of Kiev from which their fighter planes operates

Unfortunately the Ukrainians do not have the terrain advantage talibans had in Afghanistan.

Guerilla warfare will be a humanitarian disaster because it will involve fighting in urban areas(street fighting) with the risk of very high civilian casualties

SmartPolician:
The Ukrainian military should stop fighting because they cannot withstand the military might of Russia. They should let the Russians capture Kyiv and then restrategize with the people.

The people are already armed, so they should strategize with the military and use guerrilla warfare against the Russian army. Give them a few months, they will get frustrated and leave your country like what the Talibans did to them and the US military in the past.

Because Russia air defence is in Ukriane and it controls the Ukrainian airspace

Have you wondered why all those EU aids are coming by land through Polish and other Nato nations border

Don't fly anything to Kiev ryt now

BritishNaija:
Why should it be easy pick for S-300, are They flying to russia?.

Kharkiv and Mauripol but necessarily Kiev, being their administrative centre and Capital. A siege in Kiev is sufficient for a good negotiation. It will be better if the war ends with a negotiation than by absolute brute force

Zelensky's govt needs to be ratifying deals and signing documents in Kiev and all necessary civil administration duties will be performed by the time the war ends for the sake of legitimacy. And it needs to be Zelensky democratically elected govt because I don't trust the West they can come up with another twisted angle

A donbass, Kharkiv to Mauripol is a good buffer for Russia

Appleyard:
It's only on Nairaland you find ediots who believe that the Ukros are really winning big time and the Russians are loosing.

Lmao. There are live videos everywhere on Telegram showing members of Ukrainian Azov battalion placing artillery inside civilian buildings and using them as human shields against Russian airpower, hence the Russians relunctant to use most of their air advantage to avoid massive civilian casualties.

Heck, the Swastikas bearing Azov battalion soldiers are even shooting their own colleagues who were pulling back from the frontlines and willing to surrender. One Ukrainian civilian driver released a video showing same Nazis pulling out civilian men from vehicles and shooting them in cold blood for daring to leave the city. But you won't find any of that on the lamestream media.

Many Russian media outlets are experiencing a massive DDoD attack to prevent them from airing a contrary narrative as agasint the west sponsored narrative.

How can "13 soldiere"be left to guide an Island the size of "snake Island?" as claimed by the western lamestream media, but contrary media aver they're 82 service men in numbers who surrendered to the Russian navy, and not dead "heroes" as claimed by the lamestream media.

The real war being fought now is information war and the Russians are loosing on its frontlines because the west resources for this are so huge. It's only when the likes of Mariupol, which is now surrounded, Kharkiv, Kiev are finally rounded up like wild horses, only then can the Russians have a face and many misinformed people here would be liberated from the media zombification.

Till then, I rest my case.

Russia just want to render Ukraine militarily useless and then forestall Nato encroachment

But that military useless get reason

By the end of this conflict Ukraine would have lost $billions worth of military hardware. e get why Russia insist on Ukraine neutrality and at the start of hostility beging to take out military infrastructures

The best thing is to end this war by dialogue

KingEverest:
Leave them they don't understand the war tactics Russia is using here

Man we Sabi

Am tired 9f telling them this

Kyiv is in an effective blockade....nothing is going in there that's why Russia no send all their arm contributions.

I was telling someone on Sunday that the Euro Peace fund wasn't suppose to be used for arming Ukraine and that Borell was wrong in taking that step.
That money will end up in German and French pocket, forget all these ones sending obsolete Soviet Era fighter aircraft to Ukraine dem too wan cash out

I've said it before that Hungary and Italy will most likely not support this stance by EU and Turkey too is worried about the way this things are going with some European nations urging Turkey to close up the straits at Dardanelles and Bosporus

KingEverest:
The capital is surrounded bro and Russia owns the air space too why do you think the Hungarian minister is scared you can't help Ukraine now without direct confrontation with Russia is too late

Coming from a man that wears wig

A fool at 40

icebird25:
Your brain is full of relaxer

President Buhari has also signed an order authorizing and directing all Nigerian Yahoo boys age 16 to 40 for immediate enlistment into the Ukrainian international Defence Force through the National Orientation Agency in collaboration with the Nigeria Police and Immigration Service and the Ukraine High Commision in Nigeria. Registration for this voluntary military service are to start 1 Mar 2022. The IGP Usman Alkali Baba has been instructed to ensure maximum benefit and cash out policy fully adhere to

The Federal Government has also appointed DCP Abba Kyari as the DG of the newly formed Ukrainian International Defense Force in Nigeria (UKIDFN) with additional responsibility of immediately setting up two Infantry brigade UKIDFN1 and UKIDFN2 for rapid deployment to Ukraine

C'mon 40miles
40miles? Ahn ahn
That's over 70km

That's more than the distance from Oshodi to Sagamu

You guys should take it easy with these exaggeration

Although a military convoy of that stretch and moving through forest areas is vulnerable at many points if the Ukrainian know what they're doing

40miless

Easy pick for S300

EU should stop funding this war with their hypocrisy and is there any agreement with Russia to transfer Russia made planes to Ukraine?

I said it here earlier that the West is in a tearing race to re arm Ukraine and resupply it with military hardwares because of the effective demilitarisation of Ukraine and the elimination of almost all Ukraine military hardwares, including over 300 tanks and armored vehicles, 30+ aircrafts with most sitting duck, and 29+command centres, bringing to a total of 1211 military infrastructures destroyed by the Russia military.

Why the need to restock Ukraine if not wanting to prolong this conflict.

Well Russia still controls the Ukrainian airspace and is unbothered by some obsolete 2nd generation fighters.

You can imagine

Google map

How will that affect modern military movement and coordination

These people think we're all dumb

When you think you've seen it all

When it comes to the Montreux agreement right of passage is guaranteed and Ankara deals directly with Moscow (and every other black sea nation) for passage of military vessels and it's only in extraordinary circumstances that Turkey can block the bosphorus and Dardanelles which will means closing off the Black sea and the Mamarra sea from the Agean and subsequently blocking access to the Mediterranean.

It will affect trade as well

Closed for too long and it may be a prelude to another war

But apart from this I don't think it can stop Russian war ships from returning to base after all this Ukraine drama

Closing the Turkish strait has serious economic implications but all who needs it for access will suffer not just Russia

helinues:
You people have no idea about the ripple effects of closing the black sea.

Sebi stock market is down now except energy. Just wait for one or 2 months to the scale of increasing in the price of goods and services.

The world entirely is currently running on reserves cos so many logistics have been distrupt

Na so

Nairaland is becoming dumbsite for their rubbish propaganda, misinforming the masses and people that come here earnestly seeking for news

Seun, pls do something about this

There will be no winners in that kind of situation

Best is to do what Putin wants, give Russia guarantees or stand idle and watch him gobble up Ukraine

It's a very bad situation the world is in right now

luluosas:
WW3 is basically loading and the West will respond appropriately if Putin launch this madness

Russian just recently captured Enerhodar and Berdyansk before going into talks with the Ukrainian

Located in the northwest and southeast of Ukraine

Got the update from maritime executive about how Russia captured two Ukrainian flagged merchant ships and how it is violating international maritime laws https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/russian-forces-seize-port-of-berdyansk

It's surprising how no other news outlet said anything about it

It's good you have ties with this people and get information first hand, maybe you can get your friends to share some info in what is happening in these places because tbvh most of the information we get here are shrouded with misinformations and propaganda.

The casualty figure is unknown and maybe the Ukrainian defenders are putting up a great fight like you said but I can't bet on it especially when they've lost most of their tacticals in Russian missile attacks.

If it comes to Street fighting and employing guerilla tactics maybe they may fare better.

But like I said an authentic information of what's really going on there will go a long way in dispelling false informations from media propaganda

msrcusgarvey6:
I have strong ties with Ukraine and Russia so iam prevlilaged to read fluently in Russian. I read regional papers from different cities like Odessa, Mariopole, Summy Chernigov but not Lviv. Kharkov is my base anreyway
I get all sorts of raw videos from Ukrainians only to show they are defending well. If the west can cope with refugees then let us have only their media outlets disseminating infos. The west prepared for this long time ago, smearing at east Europeans, removed Casperskii, Huawei ,Rt from their markets
Later on economic expulsion

First understand the strategic objectives of Russia

Will Russian want to destroy Ukraine? I don't think so

But if the rebels hold from Kharkiv to Mauripol then they create a buffer for Russia which should make Ukraine's border to Russia non existent.

I expected Donesk and Lugansk rebels going northwest to Kiev but rather what happened was that
1. Russian used missiles everywhere and attacked from multiple fronts even using paratroopers to the West of Kiev to block off reinforcements ('an attack everywhere is an attack no where' Sun Tzu art of war)
2. Russia used the attack everywhere as a smokescreen to mask their original objective
3. They used the attack everywhere to neutralize Ukraine military taking out about 30 command post effectively destroying Ukraine military capabilities.
4. They used the attacks everywhere to intercept first arms shipment coming from Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. The javelin light anti armor missiles that Ukraine was expecting. This is the Reason why Nato, EU is on a frenzy to restock and re arm Ukraine with Germany sending 1000 anti armor defense weapons
5. Reinforcements and resupply will not come by air (there's a fear that Russia currently controls the Ukrainian air space) but by land mostly through borders with Nato countries
6. The separatist of Lugansk and donesk has gained massive territories in the last 4 days but it's funny how they are advancing southwards and northwards respectively instead of marching northwest to Kiev or a general westward movement.

If and when they sieze Kharkiv and Mauripol then Ukraine has nothing to fight for anymore and Russia is safe from nato incursion, at least through Ukraine

NOwazobia:
But you are quoting from the media. Should we then say that is Eastern propenganda?

The Western propaganda should be believed more, because judging from your assertion, if the Russians are having such success in the fight, Ukraine aught to be down by now... But so far, from the same media, it seems the war is just starting.

Are you in Ukraine?

Currently I get update from both sides
CNN, BBC, fox, AL Jazeera, Reuters, ria novosti, sputnik

And I one thing I notice about the news from the West is the way the make it look like the Ukrainians are beating Russians blue black yet requesting for support for the same Ukrainians and promising to send arms. It is the same media that's giving us casualty figures of Russian dead but no Ukrainian. Was it Fox news that shared a post of Miss Ukrainian joining the Ukrainian military and it was later debunked

My guy don't rely on only western media for your news if you want to know what's happening in Ukrainian check both sides and you will see what's really happening

Kelvin3476:
I KNW U ARE MORE INFORMED THAN UR SO CALLED WESTERN PROPAGANDA. U ARE IN UKRAINE I GUESS

If they are winning the war they won't be looking for IT army

Kharkiv is almost lost to Donesk rebels

Lugansk rebels are 20km away from Mauripol

Cherniv is in Russian hands

All roads leading to Kiev has been blocked and all i see from the West is propaganda
IT army this,
Sanction that,
shot down airplane,
killed Chechnya generals,
killed 500,000 Russian troops with no single Ukrainian casualty.

Hmmmm

All Russia said in their site was 1067 military infrastructure of Ukraine has been eliminated including 27 aircraft that was destroyed on ground (meaning they never flied)

Hmmmm

So who now controls Ukraine border to the north and to the east
Who holds Kiev
Who controls the Ukrainian airspace

This war won't be won on the media

You said Russia and Pakistan is in alliance so they can destroy Israel and that is what am holding you for

It's a very careless and ill informed statement to make and that's why I stand on the fact that you don't know anything

What is speculation? How can you make a bold statement based on assumptions and come here to tell me it's speculations you got on Google

No need wasting my time with you

CoronaVirusPro:
You have big problem with comprehension. If all I have told you, which you never knew before, you can still not use the simplest logic to know where Pakistan stands, then little I can do.

You have google, Google about the speculations.

Cos finding you still arguing tells me you were a very dull student in school. You cannot pick pieces and create an image.

Let me accept to cut this boring discussion cos I am. Or learning anything and I have thought you a lot.

Israel and Pakistan are bilaterally and diplomatically okay. Go out and say it where updated elites are gathered.

Bunch of gibberish until you prove how Russia and Pakistan relation wants to destroy Israel

Stop fuming and prove it

Russia funded 9/11

You're clown

Western media has eroded your thinking faculty

I can't ask you to prove this because you will find it only in dreams

CoronaVirusPro:
Another round of lengthy gibberish!

Does Pakistan recognize Israel?

Do you know you cannot stamp a Israeli visa on a Pakistan passport page?

Do you know they share No diplomatic ties

And you still arguing in the face of facts! Do you need to be told this guys are anti-Israelis

Where was Osama killed? Do you know intelligence had traces that Russian financed September 11?

Your problem is that, you not brilliant. Even with history and present status quo right in front of you, you still have effrontery to make arguments.

What are you arguing, be specific.

That Israel and Pakistan are in good accord? Tell me your argument cos your ramblings are becoming confusing

No be lie

They should continue jubilation for santions now

helinues:
Both Ukraine and Russia are largest exporters of Grains and Wheat

This sweet go reach every one

You're obviously dumb
Saudi also go against Israel, so now your dumb intuition is telling you they are in league with USA to destroy Israel

CoronaVirusPro:
And didn’t Pakistan go against Israel in the 7 days war? So you dumb intuition tells you they are out of the league. Hello! They are for Palestines, it will only take time for them to regroup!

Russia is also a major player in arms, its arms are everywhere does that mean that Russia is seeking to destroy a nation it has no direct interest with.

You don't know foreign affairs son

Pakistan has a more urgent needs in its Kashmir Jammu border with India to be looking for Israel

You're even more stupid when you said Russia is allied to Pakistan to destroy Israel

Na gotv CNN dey make you feel like one analyst

Dumb kids everywhere

Although Pakistani Uk/US relations has not been what it used to be but who doesn't know that Pakistan as a nation has gained more from the West than any other nation.

If then it doesn't use its relation to destroy Israel like you want to believe partly because of your naivety then why do you think it will use its shallow prospective relations with Moscow to achieve this deluded dreams you're having

To cap you ignorance if the fact that you think Russia wants to align with Pakistan to destroy Israel

Go look up Russia Israel relations

BTW, Tel Aviv is playing mediator in this Ukraine crisis

Why?

Because of her strong relations with both Countries

Recent news

So, go update yourself and let's end this dilly dallying

CoronaVirusPro:
You just a comedian! You claim Pakistan is an allied of USA, and same time saying it’s seeking economic gains from Russia! Can you see you don’t even have a picture of world affairs. Pakistan seeking economic gains from Russia that is struggling with its own economy with raining sanctions…. lol. Do you have an idea about what you talking about.

Pakistan has a rift with Indian and that has been for decades. And the Iran-Pakistan-Russia relation is on shared enemy grounds. A kid in foreign affairs should know that.

So Pakistans prime minister traded world economic gains to meet with Putin because of Russias economic gains! Are you sure you in the right section!

Pakistan is a major player in arms, do you need to be told that it’s fuels the crusade of hezbollah via Iran

I am teaching you too much. You have no idea about how this country align. Imagine saying Pakistan is seeking economic gains from a crumbling Russia! Even Russia is looking for economic gains

Hello! “Shared Interest, Same enemy”