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iamoyindamola:
I will take this Alonso ahead of Mr Kola, I really don't understand why you all don't like him

spillo1:
What Maradona did with Napoli Trumps anything Messi had done with Barcelona and that's the fact. Nobody is saying he took 10woods to win trophies but the team was average and filled with few exciting players. Let me add context.

Serie A at that time was dominant by the north in Juventus, AC Milan and Internazionale. Teams from South of the Italian Peninsula had ever won the Scudetto.

The first season of Maradona at Naples wasn´t disappointing from his side. Maradona had 14 goals, but Maradona didn´t like the coach because the team wasn´t built around him, which ended with Ferlaino firing Rino Marchesi (coach at the time). The replacement had to be approved by Maradona. Maradona was demanding the team to be built around him, which Ottavio  want to do and was appointed. The only interesting players Napoli had were Ciro Ferrera, Bruscolotti and an older Bertoni. Ciro Ferrera was the biggest name talent-wise on the Napoli team.
Bianchi played a 4-1-2-1-2 formation without wingers in the midfield. This formation was to make it as easiest as possible to pass the ball to Maradona. The second season of Maradona was much better with a new coach and new structure. Napoli ended 3rd this season. Napoli were already seen as one of the favourites going Into the 3rd season to win the league with a maradonna fresh from leading Argentina to the world cup. Napoli was an average team without Diego Maradona and that´s just a fact in 1986-87. Overall there were better teams than Napoli in the league. Inter, Juventus,Roma,AC Milan and even Verona had better teams. For the next 4 seasons before he was banned he led Napoli to 2 league titles, Two 2nd place finishes, Copa italia and Cup winners cup. What has Messi done at Barca that trumps that? Taking an average side to dominate not once but in 4/5 seasons against better teams and filled with better players.

spillo1:
National level there is no May be. Maradonna has a god status in Argentina.

Club level Messi has always enjoyed the luxury of playing with world class players all through his career in a dominant team and in an era that favours attackers. Is winning trophies with the strongest team in a two team league more impressive than what Maradonna did at Napoli? Winning Serie A with Napoli at that time trumps anything Messi has done at club level. If the roles were reversed and Messi had to play in the 80's and early 90's Serie A with Napoli, do you think he could carry them to any title? Maradonna carried a Napoli side that finished 2 spots above relegation the season before he joined to 2 league titles and two 2nd place finish. This was when Serie A was like the Premier league and La Liga Combined. Club level Maradonna is still ahead.

thorrvik55:
Do u get extra bonus points for beating a top team? No wonder Emery surrendered an 8-minute 2-0 lead at the Emirates last weekend because Palace was not a top team..

Manure has not lost to a top team this season and the point difference between them and Liverpool is way more than their total number of points this season.. So, u were saying?

madrid5:
How does this idiotic swish managed to be the most annoying brat in this forum that has neymar 14 is still a mystery to me,instead of focusing on your dead arsenal you are fooling urseft here,idiat.

Melvyn11:
In a blind kingdom, the one eyed man is king.

thorrvik55:
So many questions in one post.

One year later and u are still asking people for ur coach's philosophy and pattern of play. I thought such questions we're only asked by scummies.. Tueh. Nonsense and Arsenal.



The one way off me na, what are we doing?

If u ask me, na who I go ask?

DExponential:
Let's drop the arguments for now. Dec/Jan isn't far away.

thorrvik55:
Even when results were not going our way most of us where still hopeful because of wot we saw during those games..

The only thing we shall be seeing is ur fellow gayners celebrating Emery's sack like they just won a champions league trophy.

DExponential:
If that's the case, can we then say that we didn't enjoy the "new manager bounce"?

thorrvik55:
The disaster has already come and gone. That was his first 8 games where he only managed to win 2.

DExponential:
There's nothing like honeymoon period. What you're talking about is the "new manager bounce" which usually lasts for a few games.

thorrvik55:
U are very wrong.
This was Emery's honeymoon period


He failed to win 5 of the next ten games after the honeymoon period was over.

thorrvik55:
Nope. Honeymoon period is the first two months or so of the manager's arrival. Ask Manure fans they'll tell u how the honeymoon stuff works.
The 7 straight win has nothing to do with honeymoon. Honeymoon period has been over since

This was Sarri's honeymoon period:

Huddersfield 0 : 3 Chelsea-W

Chelsea 3 : 2 Arsenal-W

Newcastle 1 : 2 Chelsea-W

Chelsea 2 : 0 Bournemouth-W

Chelsea 4 : 1 Cardiff-W

Paok 0 : 1 Chelsea-W

Westham 0 : 0 Chelsea- D

Chelsea 1 : 1 Liverpool- D

DExponential:
See yourself? Hazard came, scored goals and won trophies. Let's see how far the Ivorian spice will go.

DExponential:
Two players were mentioned. Pulisic and a spice. How Hazard came into the discussion, I don't know.

thorrvik55:
Honey moon period? Lol

Lampard's first 8 games as Chelsea manager:

Manure 4 : 0 Chelsea -> L

Liverpool 2 : 2 Chelsea (Lost on ok) -> L

Chelsea 1 : 1 Leicester -> D

Norwich 2 : 3 Chelsea -> W

Sheffield 2 : 2 Chelsea -> D

Wolves 2 : 5 Chelsea -> W

Chelsea 0 : 1 Valencia -> L

Chelsea 1 : 2 Liverpool -> L


Lampard's honey moon period see him get just two wins in 8 games.

DExponential:
You brought Hazard into this so tell us. If Pulisic is scoring from the bench, I don't mind. At least, he's showing his value.

Branzy:
If lampard ain't a Chelsea legend then who are. Name then 10 of them

Branzy:
How many hatrick giggs had for man utd

DExponential:
I no mention Hazard, he has paid his dues. I just want to tell you that the bench player has opened his account with a nice hat trick.

BlueAngel444:
Young man please compare both teams... Even the attitude of Sarri was different from Lamps, Sarri suspected a coming collapse - usually saying things like "we are not there yet".

People expected that result from Sarri but this from Lamp exceeds expectations.

DExponential:
Who are the veterans? Caballero, Pedro or Giroud? Your club can have them since you guys love veterans so much. Pulisic will get game time. He already has a hat trick in his first full Premier League start. We can't say the same for a certain spice.

DExponential:
Till then. For now, let's enjoy ourselves. It's not my fault that your clown of a coach is struggling ATM.

Elnino4ladies:
Okay... can you allow us to enjoy the moment then

DExponential:
I don't even get their point. We have James, Abraham, Tomori. All Championship players last season. We have Lampard, a rookie coach playing good football and scoring goals with these guys and someone is trying to compare him to Sarri who had fit Hazard, Kante and Rudiger.

DExponential:
As usual, you just typed rubbish. We lost our best player, have a transfer ban, dealing with a lot of injuries yet someone is doing an amazing job with the team. Before the season started, I didn't even think we would be in this position. Most fans just wanted him to get us into Europa spots by but we're 4th now. Any credit Lampard is getting now, he fully deserves it.
As for your dead club, care to tell us how your coach's sack is one L away?