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I wish them all the best in the new year!

Omo! Not until I spent another money on repairs. I got a small 1KVA voltage stabilizer with AVR and delay function in order to protect my precious battery charger.

Thanks for asking.

odimbannamdi:
I saw you in by whatsapp inbox early this morning. Tell your village people to free you...na new year be this..

Is it now working?

Same thing has happened again.

My brother switched off the Gen while I was still using it to charge batteries. By the time NEPA brought light, it has stopped working again.

odimbannamdi:
My sincere empathies, bro.

Consider using surge protector while using the device. It may be very prone to current surges.

Glad you got it all sorted out.

Weldone bro

Hey Nnamdi.

Thanks for your experience-based feedback. I actually appreciate it.
Unfortunately, mine was a more serious case, but I got it repaired at a nearby local electrician's shop; he replaced the power IC.

Thanks a lot.

odimbannamdi:
Hello bro,

I am guessing the charger was working (i.e. charging) before the power went off (either through PHCN power outage or you unplugged it to plug it back), after which the red charging indicator light stopped coming up, right?

I experienced it as well, and these were what i did:

I discharged my battery bank a little, then connected the charger back and it continued charging. Or, i left it for sometime, and when power returned, it continued charging. I think it needed to cool or something like that

Try these tips and let us know

I have fixed the Charger now, the electrician said it's power IC and replaced it right in front of me.

I am now back home now, enjoying it.

dollarnaira:
Oh ok sorry

The fan is not VDC, it is rated AC 220 Volts, and connected to the AC Outlet part of the UPS.
Also, I use a 24v Bluegate 1200VA UPS, not 12v.

dollarnaira:
From d bolded
It is 12v x 0.15 = 1.8w
It is a 12v dc fan

even my UPS, the electrician used a 220VAC 0.15A cooling fan inside the UPS. When I calculated the wattage, 220 x 0.15 = 33Watts. Imagine a common UPS fan consuming 33 Watts when my standing fan is just 54 Watts. I insisted that he used a VDC fan (which would do the same job at 3-5 Watts) but the e-doit didn't listen.

So, I would be happy if you can fix the battery charger for me oo... Where do you stay?

dollarnaira:
Bring it let me open it for you

Hmmm. I am not an electronics-savvy person. I can't even tell which transistor or capacitor got damaged, neither do I even know the difference between the two.

I think I'll leave all these ups thing for now. I've always been unlucky.

Thanks a lot. Bless you.

ceejay80s:
Before u take it to a repairer, open with a screw driver and see of it has a fuse and if the fuse or a transistor or capacitor is damaged

Boss, I've tried all possible methods o. Lithium or not, Manual or Automatic, I think the battery charger should switch on upon connecting it to the mains. It doesn't.

It no longer charges, and only switches on (no load or battery full mode) when connected to the battery.

ceejay80s:
Ha!! No impossible... Talk to me, have u checked the switches, is the led screen still displaying when plugged to the battery or electricity? Check if the switch is on lithium

I've done that, but unfortunately the charger has stopped functioning after a couple hours of use. I'm not saying it's his fault, but I'm just reporting the situation just in case you or anyone has any helpful advice.

Contacted him already, and he has been helpful in his own capacity, which I appreciate.

Thanks.

ceejay80s:
Buy from saint2ace and get it sameday , he bought extra incase, or wait for jumia 2-3weeks delivery

I dont know how to use Nairaland PM system. Give me a physical location so I can send my guy to pick it up?

saint2ace:
I have one unit remaining, buzz me

Please bro. Where dyu buy your Anjing Charger?

Please reply. I don waka market taya.

odimbannamdi:
Lol...

In less than about 6 hours of using the charger on my Quanta, I am already seeing some improvements.

My 12v inverter has been unable to charge the battery beyond 13.0 for sometime now. The max it manages to do occasionally is 13.2. But I used the charger yesterday and it steadily climbed to 13.4.

We should be having nepa light all through today and I hope to charge it very well by tomorrow morning. I will observe and provide feedbacksb to the house

Meanwhile, I have 2 units for sale here.

Hello sis. How far about your tummy now? Did it go down already? My wife is passing through the same.

I'll really appreciate your feedback.

cancerlib:
Hello mothers, what can I use to get my belly back? I had a section 2wks ago and my tummy still looks 5mnths preggy. Learnt I cant do hot water pressing cos of d CS. Any idea will be greatly appreciated.
TX in advance

Wow. Thanks for the insight, but me I'll rather just buy a single big solar panel instead of connecting two in parallel. I no rush. This thing na longterm project

boyjo:
Ah! Solar charge controller is a must o.
After the solar panels, na the only thing wey I buy join am.
The installation is so so easy.

My broda, as at that time when I wan buy the panel, na the 335W Suntech solar panel just dey my mind.
It was N80k!
And you know say na around that time I wan buy battery too.

6 units of 50Watts panel, was giving me N90k. So I just reason say instead of make I strain myself remove 80k once, make I dey buy am small small, after all, the over price no too different.

But I also realised that I would be using up more space and cable.
I guess it was the price to pay.

Lol, so Jumia do you that January thing ehn?

Me sef don reason am like that. Thanks.

Even if e no later work, I fot go buy another one.

boyjo:
Yes, na me install am myself.

Abeg, do quick repair that 650VA UPS.
I get beef for series connection

If you use that 200AH on that 650VA UPS, you go enjoy am.

Also, I wan ask this question.

After buying solar panels, you go need charge controller bah?

And again, why you no just buy 150w Monocrystalline Solar panels instead of buying 3pcs of 50w. 150w mono solar panel na like 23 - 30k

boyjo:
My battery big. 200AH. You remember say
I talk say I close eye buy a bigger battery.
So e dey last. But na only one unit sha.
Plus I use it for only light in the evenings.

I was tempted to switch on TV on it one day, but I had to stay "focused".

So because I use the battery only for light, the battery dey carry me for daysss...till when NEPA head correct.

Yes, I come later buy solar panel; 50watts.
One.
But e no reach

So, I add a new 50watts solar panel monthly if I can manage.
I need, atleast, 150watts i.e 3 units if 50watts solar panels in parallel to fashie NEPA; if them like make them take their light for one month.

I am just saying this as a form of encouragement.

One no need to get all the money first to begin a project.

Just dey buy the things wey you need small small, one at a time. One day, everything go complete.

I dey get ready to laugh NEPA. Very soon.
Them no fit threaten me again lie lie.

The month wey I buy the first 50Watts monocrystalline solar panel, it was 15k on Jumia. But right now, that same one is 19k.
E pain me o but I go just close eye complete am 3. The panel that is.

How far your second battery?
You don buy am or you wan wait for that charger first?

I get two UPS, asides the 1.2kva, but na 650va and e dey electrician house.

I never buy that second battery cause I never get money since that day.

I'll surely buy the second battery before the battery charger I ordered arrive from Jumia next year.

If I eventually buy a 200AH next year, I'll move the two batteries in parallel to the small UPS.

As for solar panels, I think I should be able to afford them next year too but installation na im go con be issue.

Na you install your own yourself?

boyjo:
My battery big. 200AH. You remember say
I talk say I close eye buy a bigger battery.
So e dey last. But na only one unit sha.
Plus I use it for only light in the evenings.

I was tempted to switch on TV on it one day, but I had to stay "focused".

So because I use the battery only for light, the battery dey carry me for daysss...till when NEPA head correct.

Yes, I come later buy solar panel; 50watts.
One.
But e no reach

So, I add a new 50watts solar panel monthly if I can manage.
I need, atleast, 150watts i.e 3 units if 50watts solar panels in parallel to fashie NEPA; if them like make them take their light for one month.

I am just saying this as a form of encouragement.

One no need to get all the money first to begin a project.

Just dey buy the things wey you need small small, one at a time. One day, everything go complete.

I dey get ready to laugh NEPA. Very soon.
Them no fit threaten me again lie lie.

The month wey I buy the first 50Watts monocrystalline solar panel, it was 15k on Jumia. But right now, that same one is 19k.
E pain me o but I go just close eye complete am 3. The panel that is.

How far your second battery?
You don buy am or you wan wait for that charger first?

Do you use a solar charger?

If no, then how do you charge since your light is not consistent.

boyjo:
You mean 24V setup?

Well, so far so good.
Some times we can go a week with no light.Them dey bring light atleast once in two to three days since this Christmas sha.

Your gen dey fluctuate, or surge once in a while? That is what I will be watching out for if I will ever try gen.
I wish person wey don try am go fit give us gist.

my gen get battery charger, but I don't think it has enough power to charge a 48v setup. Asides, that, I don't think I will be using gen to charge batteries directly cause logistically speaking, it is not convenient.

For you to say that you have never your battery charger on your gen's output current, it means that NEPA is good in the area you stay.

boyjo:
Since when I do this UPS thing in September or October, I never on gen o

But if I ON Gen, I don't think I will.
Because I no wan hear say anything happen to that battery charger. I no just dey adventurous with any of these new things wey I just buy.

I cannot buy any of the things wey I just buy now again, by GOD's grace. All their price don shoot up.

But there is this DC battery cable that comes with a new gen, and there is a DC socket on the gen where you can plug this cable to to charge your batteries (which is DC itself).
Please note, na only DC plug you fit chook there o, otherwise the plug fit blow come spoil the gen socket join.
Because person like me fit go chook AC plug dia

So if I ever need to charge with gen, na to use that DC socket on the gen for 5mins or thereabout rather than my battery charger.

If you wan experiment sha just put some money aside in case of incasity.
How you see am?

Hmmm.
Wetin I dey hear dey sweet me.

I wanted to ask if your battery charger can be powered with generator. I mean, can you use a generator to charge it the same way you use NEPA?

Have you used Gen to power your battery charger before?

boyjo:
Okay, I understand you now.

I just check the maual of my own, it can handle voltages as low as 150v. And as high as 250v.

Meaning you can use it when voltages are low..

You know say sometimes ehn, e get as these devices take dey interact with each other in a funny way.
I no go advice connecting to a stabilizer.

See as UPS and generator be wan take fight each other na.

Thanks man. I think I agree with you. I no go do am.

Concerning the stabilizer, I mean can I use stabilizer for the battery charger in the event of currents lower than 220VAC, or will the charger work on such range?

I'm asking this because low current is commonplace where I live.

boyjo:
I be wan do am.

But I go need to make sure say, wetin I connect put for the UPS no dey drain the battery faster than it is getting charged. As this will kill the battery.

Since I cannot guarantee that the load I am connecting won't deplete the battery faster than it is getting charged, I DON'T charge the battery and discharge at the same time.

Because, the money wey I take buy the battery cannot be spent all over again except to increase my battery bank.

Bros, I will advice you not to do it.
Let your charging and discharging be different cycles, you no say na bigger battery you dey use.
Make the UPS no work pass imself.


You sabi the connection of the two battery in series? Or them go help you do am?


Oga, no use stabilizer o.
Discharging from battery and also your UPS already provides stabilization abeg.

Thank you chief. I don place order immediately.

1. Can you be charging the batteries with that charger and still be using the UPS at the same time?

2. Can I use this battery charger with a 1kva stabilizer?

boyjo:
Okay.
You don see the charger?
Make I help you find one.

Check out this one,
Na intelligent one too.
It can charge both 12V and 24V

Please no make mistake out am for the wrong voltage o.

Just put am for 24V after connecting your 2 batteries in series.

Remove the "dot" wey I write below and put normal . after www below:

https://wwwdotjumia.com.ng/suoer-20a-12v-24v-car-inverter-battery-charger-58586700.html

Sorry my mistake. I'm looking for 24v charger, not 48.

2. He just tested the output with no batteries and it worked.

My UPS is Bluegate 1.2kva, needs a 24v battery setup

boyjo:
In series?
Hm.

Why in series?

In series gives your battery a 24V configuration.
Why are you looking for a 48V charger instead of 24v charger?


Why did it work in the electrician's shop?
Was it with your battery?

Was it with his battery?

He used two battered in series at his shop?

You are wrong. Batteries do not just get exploded like that.

It takes a high level of carelessness for a battery to catch fire.

1. Overcharging (happens when using a cheap, unregulated, manually controlled battery charger.)
2. Charging with more than required current (e.g Charging a 12v battery with a 24volt charger)
3. Operating batteries in a poorly ventilated environment. Most Sealed Lead Acid Batteries are suitable for indoor use and can withstand a temperature of up to 55 degrees celsius.
4. Linking batteries of different voltage and/or different amperage.

Following all those precautions, you can't cause a fire unless you use petrol and matches on your batteries. lol

Soissons:
Teaching people the easiest way to get their houses burnt. Battery technology is not for amateurs you're playing with fire, literally

Thanks so much bro. e be like say the UPS no get issue in the first place.
It worked fine in his shop.

But what I learnt is that the UPS needs two 12v batteries connected in series in order to work.

Buying another 12v 75AH battery is not my problem. My problem is buying a 48v charger. I have been searching Jumia and Konga with no luck.

boyjo:
Lol, na wetin make me ask you whether you know better electrician wey sabi work.

How you go give electrician work make e do and e no do am well?

You no test the ups before you commot im shop?
I hope say you no pay am o?

Better electrician dey wey go fit repair that UPS, you just need to find one.

Also, the no voltage output issue has still not been resolved.

boyjo:
Okay, I understand perfectly now.
One, your UPS needs to visit a good electrician. Either those socket for the back no good or, one component for inside don spoil. It needs repair.

2) Your UPS battery may still be good. Or not.
As long as light still dey, try to use the UPS charge the UPS battery. I will advise 4-8 hours. If the battery still dey off after like 3 mins of running the UPS only in its battery, the battery don spoil.
Ups battery should be like 7-10k now.


Kindly check the pic of the battery charger above, to know wen your big battery is full using a battery charger when you're ready.
I wan edit am.

Better electrician, wey sabi work near you for there?

In fact, I bought a brand new 75AH battery yesterday to test the UPS. I've not bought battery charger yet though. I was just desperate to see if battery or UPS is the problem.

Guess what? The UPS was behaving exactly the same way as it was before, meaning that battery is not the issue. It typically goes off two seconds after powering it on (the way UPS behave when their battery is totally low).

Now, the issue is not battery, but the UPS itself.

I've taken it to the electrician, and he told me he has fixed it, but when I tested it, nothing has been fixed as the UPS keeps behaving the same way it was behaving before taking it for a fix.

boyjo:
Okay, I understand perfectly now.
One, your UPS needs to visit a good electrician. Either those socket for the back no good or, one component for inside don spoil. It needs repair.

2) Your UPS battery may still be good. Or not.
As long as light still dey, try to use the UPS charge the UPS battery. I will advise 4-8 hours. If the battery still dey off after like 3 mins of running the UPS only in its battery, the battery don spoil.
Ups battery should be like 7-10k now.


Kindly check the pic of the battery charger above, to know wen your big battery is full using a battery charger when you're ready.
I wan edit am.

Better electrician, wey sabi work near you for there?

1. When I tried to charge with gen, nothing happens (with and without battery). UPS doesn't even know that they have plugged it into the mains. The only thing it does is just vibrate each time I plug it.
2. When plugged on NEPA, (i)Without Battery: Green Light is constant, while the orange light sometimes blinks, and sometimes stays lit with the green light, but after some time, like 3 mins, only the green light remains and the orange light is totally off (ii) With Battery: Green and Orange remain put. They both remain on and do not blink.

3. The UPS is an old BLUE GATE 1200VA UPS.

4. With or without battery, the UPS no dey output current.

5. On Battery power, the UPS goes off after just 2 seconds.

6. In addition to no. 4 above, I noticed that the UPS does not charge the battery, even with NEPA.

boyjo:
The. Ups be like wetin still good to me o.
I once try my UPS with gen, the reaction wey I get make me quickly off am.

Try am with NEPA.
Na the only thing wey fit tell us what's up.


You say if you try am with gen without battery e dey beep? Meaning say you remove the battery from the UPS?

If you plug am with NEPA, I sure say everything go dey alright without battery.

Na new UPS?

Thanks for your reply, bro.
So, I have done that only to find out that my UPS doesn't output current.

I have tried many things but the results remain the same.

1. I have powered the UPS without a battery
2. I have powered the UPS with a battery
3. I have long-pressed the power button on above 1 & 2 conditions

Here is what I noticed;

1. When plugged to the wall socket, the UPS behaves exactly the same way when there is no battery plugged in. So, in behaviour, there's no difference between when a battery is plugged and when it's not.

2. When unplugged, the UPS uses the battery power but goes off after just one second, as if the battery is very, very low.

I don't know if I should conclude that the battery is not chargeable by the UPS, but even if the battery is the case, why is it not outputting power when plugged to the wall socket

boyjo:
Oh! Na so e suppose be. I mean the. Orange and green light.

Now,.when you plug something to the back,
On the ups for front.

What I mean is:
You plug the UPS,
Green and orange light show.
You plug something for back.
Go press the ON switch for the front of the UPS.
The switch dey on top the lights

How far?

TaiKuun:
Bro. Abeg drop your phone number, I been wan call you ask something.

I GET original 1.2kva BLUEGATE UPS but i no know wetin dey worry am. E no dey charge with Gen and I never test am with nepa. If plugged in Gen and I on am without battery, e go behave like UPS wey the battery don low. (you know that beep, then off).

If I plug battery without connecting to the wall socket, same thing.

If I plug battery, connect with the wall socket, same thing

UPDATE:

They brought light now, and sometimes, it shows both a green and an orange light. Both lights remain the same - no blinking. But when I plug anything to the back, it doesn't supply any current.