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 Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 8:48pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Tampinu: It's called book of KINGS because it discusses the conducts of teh Kings of the Earth and can be understood better with reference to Psalm 2. It's called book of CHRNICLES because it is a chronicle of the conducts of teh Kings of the earth... Peace 
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 8:38pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
Tampinu: http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/kn/ 53. How the Wagon was given to ETHIOPIA http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/kn/kn032.htm Title Page PREFACE TO THE PRESENT EDITION PREFACE TO THE FIRST EDITION CONTENTS. LIST OF PLATES INTRODUCTION 1. Concerning the Glory of Kings 2. Concerning the Greatness of Kings 3. Concerning the Kingdom of ADAM 4. Concerning Envy 5. Concerning the Kingdom of SETH 6. Concerning the Sin of CAIN 7. Concerning NOAH 8. Concerning the Flood 9. Concerning the Covenant of NOAH 10. Concerning ZION 11. The Unanimous Declaration of the Three Hundred and Eighteen Orthodox Fathers 12. Concerning CANAAN 13. Concerning ABRAHAM 14. Concerning the Covenant of ABRAHAM 15. Concerning ISAAC and JACOB 16. Concerning RÔBÊL (REUBEN) 17. Concerning the Glory of ZION 18. How the Orthodox Fathers and Bishops Agreed 19. How this Book came to be found 20. Concerning the Division of the Earth 21. Concerning the Queen of the South 22. Concerning TÂMRÎN, the Merchant 23. How the Merchant returned to ETHIOPIA 24. How the Queen made ready to set out on her Journey 25. How the Queen came to SOLOMON the King 26. How the King held converse with the Queen 27. Concerning the Labourer 28. How SOLOMON gave Commandments to the Queen 29. Concerning the Three Hundred and Eighteen [Patriarchs] 30. Concerning how King SOLOMON swore to the Queen 31. Concerning the sign which SOLOMON gave the Queen 32. How the Queen brought forth and came to her own Country 33. How the King of ETHIOPIA travelled 34. How the young man arrived in his mother's country 35. How King SOLOMON sent to his son the commander of his army 36. How King SOLOMON held intercourse with his son 37. How SOLOMON asked His Son Questions 38. How the King planned to send away his son with the children of the nobles 39. How they made the Son of SOLOMON King 40. How ZADOK the priest gave commands to DAVID the King 41. Concerning the blessing of Kings 42. Concerning the Ten Commandments 43. How the men of the Army of ISRAEL received [their] orders 44. How it is not a seemly thing to revile the King 45. How those who were sent away wept and made a plan 46. How they made a plan concerning ZION 47. Concerning the offering of AZÂRYÂS (AZARIAH) and the King 48. How they carried away ZION 49. How his Father blessed his Son 50. How they bade farewell to his Father and how the city mourned 51. How he said unto ZADOK the Priest, ''Go and bring the Covering (or, Clothing) which is upon it (i.e., ZION)'' 52. How ZADOK the Priest Departed 53. How the Wagon was given to ETHIOPIA 54. How DAVID [the King of ETHIOPIA] Prophesied and Saluted ZION 55. How the People of ETHIOPIA Rejoiced 56. Of the Return of ZADOK the Priest, and the giving of the Gift 57. Concerning the Fall of ZADOK the Priest 58. How SOLOMON Rose up to Slay them 59. How the King Questioned an Egyptian, the Servant of PHARAOH 60. How SOLOMON Lamented for ZION 61. How SOLOMON Returned to JERUSALEM 62. Concerning the answer which SOLOMON made to them 63. How the Nobles of ISRAEL agreed [with the King] 64. How the Daughter of PHARAOH Seduced SOLOMON 65. Concerning the sin of SOLOMON 66. Concerning the prophecy of CHRIST 67. Concerning the lamentation of SOLOMON 68. Concerning MARY, Our Lady of Salvation 69. Concerning the Question of SOLOMON 70. How REHOBOAM reigned 71. Concerning MARY, the daughter of DAVID 72. Concerning the King of RÔMÊ (CONSTANTINOPLE) 73. Concerning the first judgment of ’ADRÂMÎ, King of RÔMÊ 74. Concerning the King of MEDYÂM 75. Concerning the King of BABYLON 76. Concerning lying witnesses 77. Concerning the King of PERSIA 78. Concerning the King of MOAB 79. Concerning the King of AMALEK 80. Concerning the King of the PHILISTINES 81. How the son of SAMSON slew the son of the King of the PHILISTINES 82. Concerning the going down of ABRAHAM into EGYPT 83. Concerning the King of the ISHMAELITES 84. Concerning the King of ETHIOPIA and how he returned to his country 85. Concerning the rejoicing of Queen MÂKĔDÂ 86. How Queen MÂKĔDÂ made her son King 87. How the nobles (or governors) of ETHIOPIA took the oath 88. How he himself related to his mother how they made him King 89. How the Queen talked to the Children of ISRAEL 90. How AZARIAH praised the Queen and her city 91. This is what ye shall eat: the clean and the unclean 92. How they renewed the kingdom of DAVID 93. How the Men of RÔMÊ destroyed the Faith 94. The first war of the King of ETHIOPIA 95. How the honourable estate of the King of ETHIOPIA was universally accepted 96. Concerning the Prophecy about CHRIST 97. Concerning the Murmuring of ISRAEL 98. Concerning the Rod of MOSES and the Rod of AARON 99. Concerning the Two Servants 100. Concerning the Angels who rebelled 101. Concerning Him that existeth in Everything and Everywhere 102. Concerning the Beginning 103. Concerning the Horns of the Altar 104. More concerning the Ark and the Talk of the Wicked 105. Concerning the belief of ABRAHAM 106. A Prophecy concerning the Coming of CHRIST 107. Concerning His entrance into JERUSALEM in Glory 108. Concerning the wickedness of the iniquitous JEWS 109. Concerning His Crucifixion 110. Concerning His Resurrection 111. Concerning His Ascension and His Second Coming 112. How the Prophets foreshadowed Him in their persons 113. Concerning the Chariot and the Vanquisher of the Enemy 114. Concerning the return of ZION 115. Concerning the Judgement of ISRAEL 116. Concerning the Chariot of ETHIOPIA 117. Concerning the King of RÔMÊ and the King of ETHIOPIA Colophon
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 7:28pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
easymancfc: I repeat, and for the final time. The mere fact that Ethiopia is the first country/Kingdom mentioned in the Bible means that Ethiopia is the root and fruit of Christianity. You do not have to agree and you are within your rights to disagree but I will not go back to that particular topic. And that, is that, about that!  He's right... He said one of the oldest not the oldest or that Ethiopia compiled the Bible first.. Amen! I completely agreed.. Again he is right... So before the Ethiopian Eunuch, there was no Christianity in Ethiopia... and he didn't even become a Christian in Ethiopia but in Jerusalem, where Christianity started and spread after Pentecost... Where is Jerusalem? Oh, ok, I hear your reply....see my next question below.... Where is the NEW Jerusalem?  Beautiful.. wonderful... So the bible was not written or compiled by Ethiopians, Selassie made a TRANSLATION from Greek and Hebrew (original bible language) into Ethiopian dialect...NOT THAT ETHIOPIA FOUNDED CHRISTIANITY OR FIRST COMPILED THE BIBLE... THEY TRANSLATED, THEY DIDN'T COMPILE... So are you telling me that the early prophets like Isaiah and King David waited for the Bible to be compiled by the Greek and Hebrew nations before they learned the spirituality and word of God ?  Again... good... You said Romans 1:26 is what gives Ethiopia the right.. because it saved Christianity from the Romans and that Selassie is the saviour.. you are the one mincing words and providing circular arguments... I didn't say Romans 1:21 gave Ethiopia the right or any right (Please refer to my previous post about quoting Rasta correctly, thanks); what I did was refer you to the book of ROMANs as you were referring to the ROMAN Catholics...Yes, I said Selassie I is the saviour and I repeat that without no apology! Lion of Judah is the Saviour, King of Kings is the Saviour. Qadamawe Haile Selassie I is the Saviour!!! the link is there.. go and read the thread.. My dear I have history and Bible commentaries to back me up.. all you have is Rastafarian jargon and passive mentions of Ethiopia . It's a bit strange that you state that all I have is jargons and passive mentions of Ethiopia. Thanks for your observation and what it means is that I should spare you my jargons and focus on others who have ears to hear. No hard feelings, I respect the fact that I cannot shave a man's head in his absence Peace  So how comes Psalm 87 did not mention Antioch and Rome etc as the Foundation of God and as the land where this man (JAH) was born? Or are you saying that Psalm 87 says JAH will be born in Ethiopia, and nevertheless some other regions of the world possess spiritual and religious texts that predate that Ethiopia where Psalm 87 says that God will manifest in flesh? Huh? Psalm 87 talks about Jerusalem not Ethiopia.. Ethiopia was mentioned in passing.. God manifested in flesh in Bethlehem Judea not Ethiopia (read your bible) In 21 years of discussing the Bible with hundreds (if not 1000s of people), you are the FIRST person who will categorically state that Psalm 87 refers to Israel. That makes you a genius and I commend your extremely unique talent Just to confirm, are you saying Psalm 102:16 refers to Israel too, vis-a-vis Haile Selassie I and the setting up of OAU (Organisation of African Unity )? And are you stating that Psalm 68:31 refers to Ethiopia in, erm, Israel?  Are you aware of Rev 2:9 at all?  What about Revelation 3:9, eh?  Peace What proof are you still awaiting, the proof is there for you just open a Bible (with clean hands and a pure heart of course) flip the pages to Genesis Chatper 2 verse 13 and that is all the proof that you need. Adam and Eve were placed iin the Garden of Eden which had River Nile near it, a branch/Tributary of which runs through Ethiopia , end of story. The only proof there is that a river runs through Ethiopia, BUT WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING.. the rivers passes through three other places.. THIS DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING.... ITS LAUGHABLE ACTUALLY So sorry for telling you about a River that has got nothing to do with anything, I will refrain from mentioning rivers that pass through other places Peace  What that passage in Genesis tells us is that all civilisation was based on that origin, be it Social, Spiritual, Religious, Academic, I say ALL!!! Unless you want to tell us that God made Adam and Eve in Ethiopia and then God left them without teachings/Texts/Canons etc Lol.. so because river Gihon one of the four rivers passed through Ethiopia.. therefore it is the cradle of civilization... The river passes through other places.. are they also cradle of civilization??.. That logic is so poor that it is not worth mentioning.. Canaan was not mention, Jerusalem was not mentioned, Israel was not mentioned yet the bible records that God gave those places to his people and Jesus came from that nation.. Aplogies once again for mentioning inconsequential matters . Peace Whatever religious/spiritual teachings the Ethiopians have, be it oral or written invariably predates whatever comes after! Before Christianity came.. the Ethiopians were pagans.. Oh, really? so sorry I didn't notice despite reading the Bible for decades that Moses' Ethiopian wifey along with her kinsmen were pagans But, I have taken on board your point that she was a pagan, being an Ethiopian, even though the Bible tells us differently. So basically, until Jesus Christ came, everyone was pagan, innit? Jesus Christ! It was nice reasoning with you. Pardon me once again for my lies, deceit and waste of your time. Try reading about Zadok the priest, King Solomon, Queen of Sheba and how their son Menelik I brought the Ark of the covenant from Israel to Ethiopia...(It's in the Book of Kings and Chronicles in the Bible) then, maybe, just maybe we may be able to resume a discussion on spirituality as I do not do religion, if u wish. Until then, this represents my final correspondence to you on these matters. Look after yourself, mate Peace
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 6:52pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
easymancfc: Your comment above is an epitome of "Intellectual honesty". Peace IHS = Haile Selassie (the FIRST) IHS = HS1 HS1 = HSI IHS = 1HS
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 6:36pm On Sep 25, 2017 |
blueAgent: OK, I'm so sorry I will never twist the Bible again to suit my hearsay, so please explain Hebrews 11:1 to us (without twisting the message) Many thanks
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 10:23am On Sep 24, 2017 |
[quote author=Tampinu post=60737415] YOU AND I HAVE DEBATED THE ISSUE OF ETHIOPIA AND ROME IN A DIFFERENT THREAD AND I SHOWED HOW INACCURATE YOUR INFORMATION WAS... in everything you pasted you failed to show that the Ethiopian canon came before the Catholic canon. . I know the Ethiopian canon has 81 books with the book of Enoch and jubilees etc ... according to your post... the current 81 book version was published in 1986... Show me that the Ethiopian canon came before 393 (council of hippo) and I will believe you.. simple...NO NEED TO COPY AND PASTE THE WHOLE WIKIPEDIA... BUT DO IT WITH GOOD SOURCES What's there to " debate " about Ethiopia and Rome? There is co comparing the two cities, one is God's own country and the other is the porn-thief's own territory. There are numerous reports of child abuse and molestation by the Catholic priests. That's why its called pontiff or porn-thief. There's no debating Ethiopia and Rome, For to compare Ethiopia with Rome is like comparing sleep with death! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwihu7o6YxM&t=608s
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 2:03am On Sep 24, 2017 |
easymancfc: According toyour comments above, you have told the truth,which is opposite of what the KING stated. Hence, you want me to believe that you tell the truth and are correct, Haile Selassie I who has the Title of defender of the Faith, who was knelt down for and bowed down to by ALL heads of states of every country and ALL Kings and Lords in every country; was telling porkies/lies/untruths/prevarications and was wrong. Ok, it's nice to know you I think I better call it a day with you before it turns to night!
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 1:52am On Sep 24, 2017 |
easymancfc: If Jesus was the Root of David and the Bible tells us that King SOlomon stated that He (King Solomon) is Black, does that not tell us that Jesus of the same lineage is Black? If we don't know Christ, how can we confidently speak about Christianity? If Jesus was not a Christian, so why are people calling themselves Christians and not Judaic as Jesus was Judaic? What is the difference between a Jew and an Ethiopian? There are different types of Jews and if Jesus was a Jew, what type of Jews was He? Was he Beta Israel? Or Falasha Jew? These are worth Googling if you are not familiar with them. Walk Good!
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 1:38am On Sep 24, 2017 |
easymancfc: Ok, I see your reply. So Psalms Chapter what did it say that God has Chosen Kent, England as His foundation as it did Ethiopia in Psalm 87? Because it appears you seem to fail to see the connect between the fact that Ethiopia is first country mentioned in the Bible (Not along some ancient civilizations-as if they were all mentioned FIRST at the same time-I repeat Ethiopia is the first country mentioned in the Bible, FIRST means FIRST, FIRST does not mean along with some other ....) That is a virtue called "Intellectual Honesty". The ability to say "Yes, you are right it is the first etc".  Not for somneone to say, "Yes, it's the first so?" That is evasive and childish. And with those who reason without depth I do not associate. As if it is not logically consistent that if Psalm 87 says Ethiopia is God's country and Ethiopia is the First country mentioned in the Bible, how likely is the possibility that Ethiopia have the oldest version of the Christian Holy Books? You have not pointed out anything Re: dismissing the fact the Ethiopia is the first country mentioned in the Bible. First you came across as if it did not matter that Ethiopia was first country mentioned in the Bible, then you returned and made as if there was a cluster of countries named as FIRST in the Bible and Ethiopia just happened to be one of them. (Sigh)  Look, I have given my conclusive answer to all your questions on this matter by providing Haile Selassie's comments on the Bible; The King has spoken, it remains to see who will overturn the King's words. is it you? The king says WE IN ETHIOPIA HAVE ONE OF THE OLDEST VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE! (It's a humble, Noble and Polite way of saying WE HAVE THE OLDEST VERSION) What are you defending? You calling my King a liar? Not even the Pope or the Catholic church EVER raised a challenge to His Majesty's comments on the Bible, as it is final. Then you expect me to be struggling to wake up one who is pretending to be sleeping. No man!.Have a nice weekend and enjoy yourself. I rest my case. If this is about winning arguments I agree that you have won and Rome is where Christianity began and Rome and Antioch have the oldest Bible as well as the Canon. Many Thanks 1 Like
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 9:13pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
Tampinu: There are quotes in the Bible about Jesus reading from the Psalms and the book of Isaiah; last time you and I discussed we agreed that Romans and Antioch and the other regions you mentioned (as origin of Christianity) were not listed in the Old Testament, that simply means Jesus was learning from Books which predate the ones written in the regions you mentioned. See, I'm not mad at you we are all here to learn, I only get pissed off when people try to retwist my answers as if they think this is about winning arguments. No this is about truths and facts, I swear I will lay my hand on my mouth if I am unsure of what I am telling people here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqFmXZ8tOE
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 9:06pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
Tampinu: Or are we saying that Jesus would not have known how to say the Lords' prayer if it was not for the books published by the Romans and those in Antioch?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfeIfiiBTfY
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 8:57pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
Tampinu: Africans are in bondage today because they approach spirituality through religion provided by foreign invaders and conquerors. We must stop confusing religion and spirituality. Religion is a set of rules, regulations and rituals created by humans, which was suppose to help people grow spiritually.
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 8:54pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
easymancfc: “The temple of the most high begins with the body which houses our life, the essence of our existence. Africans are in bondage today because they approach spirituality through religion provided by foreign invaders and conquerors. We must stop confusing religion and spirituality. Religion is a set of rules, regulations and rituals created by humans, which was suppose to help people grow spiritually. Due to human imperfection religion has become corrupt, political, divisive and a tool for power struggle. Spirituality is not theology or ideology. It is simply a way of life, pure and original as was given by the Most High of Creation. Spirituality is a network linking us to the Most High, the universe, and each other…” ― Haile Selassie I
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 8:51pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 8:45pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
easymancfc:You havejust hit the nail on the head! Your answers have caused me to halt, turn and lead us in another direction totally. At least we nowhave an agreement that Jesus was no Christian by you admitting that Christians follow Christ, whereas even Christ did not follow Christ! He taught us in the Lord's prayer to pray that "Our Father...", so Christ is not a Christian and Christ's faith and spiritualpractices was same as that of King David, Isaiah, Samuel, Jacob etc Which means certain "Christian" Canons are fraud and as it was in the begining, so shall it be in the end. As Adam and Eve were in thebegining without any "Christian" churches or canons, but with spirituality, so shall it bein the end. Now the conflict arises due to the fact that this is the end, andinstead of focusing ons pirituality, ones and ones are pre-occupied with religion e.g, The Messianic religion, The Christian religion, the so so and so religion and Canon. The point being that as it was in Ethiopia since day one, so shall it be in this last days and so it is already except that certain ones do not recognise ree. But for those who know, the fulfilment is already taking place. Jesus did his prayers and meditation based on ancient Ethiopian tradition and that is what Imean by Ethiopian cultural/Oral/Text/Written/Documents on spirituality and faith predates ANYTHING fromanywhere else in the world. Except die-hard AFricans with a slave mentality who still believe that the White race are spiritually or religiously superior to Africans especially where Christianity is concerned.
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 8:14pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
easymancfc: Look at the Quote below, it is Haile Selassie I's statements on the Bible... Are you saying to me that the King has lied by claiming that we in Ethiopia have one of the Oldest versions of the Bible? That statement, along with the eternal fact contained in Genesis 2:13 is all the proof you need! [b][/b] Haile Selassie I -On the Bible We in Ethiopia have one of the oldest versions of the Bible, but however old the version may be, in whatever language it may be written, the word remains one and the same. It transcends all boundaries of empires and all conceptions of race. It is eternal. No doubt you all remember reading in the Acts of the Apostles of how Philip baptised the Ethiopian official. He is the first Ethiopian on record to have followed Christ, and from that day onwards the Word of God has continued to grow in the hearts of Ethiopians. And I might say for myself that from early childhood I was taught to appreciate the Bible and my love for it increases with the passage of time. All through my troubles I have found it a cause of infinite comfort. "Come unto Me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest" ~ Who can resist an invitation so full of compassion? Because of this personal experience in the goodness of the Bible, I was resolved that all my countrymen should also share its great blessing, and that by reading the Bible they should find Truth for themselves. Therefore, I caused a new translation to be made from our ancient language into the language which the old and the young understood and spoke. Today man sees all his hopes and aspirations crumbling before him. He is perplexed and knows not whither he is drifting. But he must realise that the Bible is his refuge, and the rallying point for all humanity. In it man will find the solution of his present difficulties and guidance for his future action, and unless he accepts with clear conscience the Bible and its great Message, he cannot hope for salvation. For my part I glory in the Bible. Haile Selassie I You are just taking yourself round and round in a vicious circle!  I never stated that Paul was referring to Haile Selassie I, nor did I assert that Paul was speaking about Ethiopians; please don't try and come and muddle up the waters here. I have asked you to show me where you previously debunked my evidence and reasoning as incorrect you have not done so. I have also reminded you about the Book of Romans and you are going here and going there and mixing up the reasoning, you know not what you are on about. So how comes Psalm 87 did not mention Antioch and Rome etc as the Foundation of God and as the land where this man (JAH) was born? Or are you saying that Psalm 87 says JAH will be born in Ethiopia, and nevertheless some other regions of the world possess spiritual and religious texts that predate that Ethiopia where Psalm 87 says that God will manifest in flesh? Huh? What proof are you still awaiting, the proof is there for you just open a Bible (with clean hands and a pure heart of course) flip the pages to Genesis Chatper 2 verse 13 and that is all the proof that you need. Adam and Eve were placed iin the Garden of Eden which had River Nile near it, a branch/Tributary of which runs through Ethiopia , end of story. What that passage in Genesis tells us is that all civilisation was based on that origin, be it Social, Spiritual, Religious, Academic, I say ALL!!! Unless you want to tell us that God made Adam and Eve in Ethiopia and then God left them without teachings/Texts/Canons etc Whatever religious/spiritual teachings the Ethiopians have, be it oral or written invariably predates whatever comes after! Again, please focus on my reasoning and do not attempt to re-arrange, re-shape, re-word or mis-construe my answers At no point did I mention anything about whether the Title "Defender of the Faith" was unique to Haile Selassie I or not. Instead, I had very politely asked you if you though He bore that Title as a convenient Title. So please, when dealing with Rasta come straight and come clean. Repeat ONLY what you have heard Rasta say, and exactly as Rasta has said it. You are well within your right to share such knowledge about the uniqueness or lack of uniqueness of the Defender ofthe Faith Title; And if it is not so unique, how comes[b] Alafin of Oyo in Nigeria [/b] is not confered with that Holy Title? That shows you its relevance. So as I have repeatedly stated, the proof is in Genesis 2:13 and Psalm 87 if that is not enough for you then I can't wake up a man who is enjoying his act by pretending to be asleep; and I won't even attempt to do so if paid! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVr_Iy0oOX8
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 7:52pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
easymancfc: Sothere was no Christianity until the day of the pentecoste, eh? Bearing in mind that even Jesus stated that He did not come to change the laws but to fulfil them. so the prophesies of David and Isaiah regading Christ e.g, Psalm 22 and Isaiah 41 were written for whom and in reference to whom? So Isaiah and King David are not Christians, innit? Well then, is even Jesus Christ a Christian? There you go, you are just getting tied up with your own long silky rope (Kiss myteeth!) Read the Bible again from genesis with an open mind and clear conscience then we can resume this discussion. Cha! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_hl50bzxvQ
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 7:37pm On Sep 23, 2017 |
easymancfc: If you are tracing the roots of christianity does it not make sense to consider which civilisations and Kingdoms were first exposed to Christianity/Faith/Spirituality? So basically, you are telling us that Ethiopia was mentioned in the Bible in Genesis 2:13 and then there was a void until the Romans and the others came into consideration in the New Testament? So wwhat did you have to say about the book of Romans to which I made repeated references ? Answer the question's question! Or you are trying to be clever without be being smart? This isnot about foul language or insults, it's called calling a spade a spade. Rasta don't suffer fools! Learn that! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng6_SoWxBhQ
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 10:47am On Sep 23, 2017 |
easymancfc: You keep mentioning ROME and I referred you to the Book of Romans in the accepted normal Canons of the Bible; specifically Roman 1:26 till the end of teh chapter, and what did you reply? What did you have to say about that? Then you try come up a' towwn and make like you wanna teach Biblical history without factoring Africa? What you feel like? Go read the Kebtra Negast and gain some historical insight into the full meaning of Romans 1:26 with regards to how the Romans destroyed the faith! Why do you think Haile Selassie I's Royal titles include "Defender of the Faith"? You think it's just a convenient title? Mind how you chat and vomit fuckry, you know!
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 10:40am On Sep 23, 2017 |
blueAgent: But the Bible says in Hebrews 11:1 that faith is evidence of things unseen, so if you have Faith, you will see it. If you believe you will see it, if you accept, you will see it; not the other way round!
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| Religion / Re: Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by Tampinu(m): 10:35am On Sep 23, 2017 |
easymancfc: Yes you're Right, Ethiopia also has good christian antiquity but then again so does Antioch, Ephesus, Rome, Galatia, Thessalonica etc.. . So which part of the Old Testament was the above regions (in bold) mentioned? Ahhh Which means they did not come into consideration until in the new Testament. Read between the lines my friend! Roman ass licker!
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 10:20am On Sep 23, 2017 |
easymancfc: Firstly, it doesn't take a genius to overstand that if Ethiopia is first country or kingdom mentioned in the Bible and if Psalm 87 mentions that God has chosen Ethiopia above all other countries, that means that historically the Ethiopians have the books of the Faith, there's no other holy books that can supercede the ancient historical Ethiopian texts. Or how do you explain it? God made Ethiopia first, then God waited for Greeks and Romans and who-ever else to write the books about God and Ethiopia! (Scratches head) What kinda rationality is that? Thanks for posting the link about our historical chat, I never denied debating with people about facts of Ethiopia, but I still cannot see the part of the debate where your comment applies...Your comments below I mean. YOU AND I HAVE DEBATED THE ISSUE OF ETHIOPIA AND ROME IN A DIFFERENT THREAD AND I SHOWED HOW INACCURATE YOUR INFORMATION WAS... My request in previous post was: Please post a link to any thread where you have "showed how inaccurate my information was". It did not say: Please post a link about any general chat we had previously, the request was in soecific relation to how you claimed you "showed how inaccurate my information was". I am still waiting for you to show me that part in the historical debate link you posted. But like I said, you are free to carry on with your intellactual lethargy. Go dowwwn Babylon bwwoy!
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 11:25pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
easymancfc: Not sure if I can maake head or tail of your comments aabove, it seems to display a degree of frustration and intellectual lethargy; I think you are mixing me up with another person as I don't recall debating what is an objective reality with some one. Please post a link to any thread where you have "showed how inaccurate my information was". I referred you to the Kebra Negast and what did you reply? I copied and pasted about Tewahedo and what was your response? Look, it's hard to wake a man up if he's pretending to be asleep, I'm not here to win arguments so I rest my case. Peace https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfeIfiiBTfY 1 Like
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 6:54pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
easymancfc: Well then, please can you explain why Ethiopian Holy Books have 81 books as opposed to the Books of normal Bible? Plus, are you aware of wwhat is said in Book of Romans 1:21-end? What does the Kebra Negaste say about the Romans destroying the faith? (See below) http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/kn/ 93. How the Men of RÔMÊ destroyed the Faith 93. How the Men of RÔMÊ destroyed the Faith And after they had waited for three months—now ZION came into the country of ETHIOPIA at the beginning of the first month in the language of the HEBREWS, and in Greek TÂRMÔN and in GĔ’ĔZ (ETHIOPIC) MÎYÂZYÂ, on the sixth (or, seventh) day—they wrote down the Law and the names, and they deposited [the writing] for a memorial for the later days, so that what was right should be done for the pavilion [of ZION] p. 164 thereby, and so that the glory of the kings of ETHIOPIA and the glory of the kings of RÔMÊ might be well known. For the kings of ETHIOPIA and the kings of RÔMÊ were brethren and held the Christian Faith. Now first of all they believed in an orthodox manner in the preaching of the Apostles up to [the time of] CONSTANTINE, and ’ĔLÊNÎ (HELENA) the Queen, who brought forth the wood of the Cross, and they (i.e., the kings of RÔMÊ) continued [to believe for] one hundred and thirty years. And afterwards, SATAN, who hath been the enemy of man from of old, rose up, and seduced the people of the country of RÔMÊ, and they corrupted the Faith of CHRIST, and they introduced heresy into the Church of God by the mouth of NESTORIUS . And NESTORIUS, and ARIUS, and YABÂSÔ (?) were those into whose hearts he cast the same jealousy as he had cast into the heart of CAIN to slay his brother ABEL. In like manner did their father the Devil, the enemy of righteousness and the hater of good, cast jealousy, even as DAVID saith, "They speak violence in the heights of heaven, and set their mouths in the heavens, and their tongue waggeth on the earth."1 And those same men who know not whence they came, and know not whither they are going, revile their Creator with their tongues, and blaspheme His glory, while He is God, the Word of the Lord. He came down from the throne of His Godhead, and put on the body of ADAM, and He is God the Word. And in that body He was crucified so that He might redeem ADAM in his iniquity, and He went up into the heavens, and sat upon the throne of His Godhead in that body, which He had taken. And He shall come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and shall reward every man according to his work, for ever and ever. Amen. And we believe thus and we adore the Holy Trinity. And those who do not believe thus are excommunicated p. 165 by the Word of God, the King of heaven and earth, both in this world and in that world which is to come. And we are strong in the Orthodox Faith which the Fathers the Apostles have delivered unto us, the Faith of the Church. And thus ETHIOPIA continued to abide in her Faith until the coming of our Lord JESUS CHRIST, to Whom be glory forever and ever. Amen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHnwtlUFXkc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Orthodox_Tewahedo_Church Tewahedo (Ge'ez ተዋሕዶ) is a Ge'ez word meaning "being made one". This word refers to the Oriental Orthodox belief in the one perfectly unified Nature of Christ; i.e., a complete union of the Divine and Human Natures into one nature is self-evident in order to accomplish the divine salvation of humankind, as opposed to the "two Natures of Christ" belief commonly held by the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Lutheran and most Protestant Churches. The Oriental Orthodox Churches adhere to a Miaphysitic Christological view followed by Cyril of Alexandria, the leading protagonist in the Christological debates of the 4th and 5th centuries. Miaphysitism holds that in the one person of Jesus Christ, Divinity and Humanity are united in one (μία, mia - "one" nature (φύσις - "physis" without separation, without confusion, without alteration and without mixing[5] where Christ is consubstantial with God the Father in as much as He is with Mankind. Around 500 bishops within the Patriarchates of Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem refused to accept the Dyophysitism (two natures) doctrine decreed by the Council of Chalcedon in 451, an incident that resulted in the first major split in the main body of the Christian Church. [6]The Oriental Orthodox Churches, which today include the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, the Armenian Orthodox Church, the Syriac Orthodox Church, the Malankara Orthodox Church of India, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, and the Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, are referred to as "Non-Chalcedonian", and, sometimes incorrectly by outsiders as "monophysite". Monophysitism is a theology adopted by a 5th-century presbyter and archimandrite in Constantinople known as Eutyches and claims that Christ has "One Single Nature" where His Divinity absorbed His Humanity resulting in a "Simple" mathematical "One" Nature to which the Oriental Orthodox Churches object. According to these, both natures in Christ are perfectly preserved after the union in "mia physis" - One Nature; yet, not resulting in a distinct third Nature. Biblical canon Main article: Orthodox Tewahedo biblical canon Drawing of the Virgin Mary 'with her beloved son' in pencil and ink, from a manuscript copy of Weddasé Māryām, circa 1875. The Tewahedo Church Canon contains 81 books . This canon contains the books accepted by other Orthodox Christians.[33] The Narrower Canon contains Enoch, Jubilees, and I II III Meqabyan. (These are unrelated to the Greek I, II, III Maccabees with which they are often confused.) The canonical Enoch differs from the editions of the Ge'ez manuscripts in the British Museum and elsewhere (A-Q) used by foreign scholars (OTP), for example in treatment of the Nephilim of Genesis 6.[citation needed] The current 81 book version was published in 1986, containing the same text as previously published in the Haile Selassie Version of the Bible, only with some minor modifications to the New Testament translation. Some sources speak of the Broader Canon, which has never been published as a single compilation but is said to include all of the Narrower Canon, as well as additional New Testament books said to have been used by the early church: two Books of the Covenant, four Books of Sinodos, an Epistle of Peter to Clement—also known as "Ethiopic Clement," and the Ethiopic Didascalia. These may not all bear close resemblance to works with similar titles known in the West. An eight-part, Ethiopic version of the history of the Jewish people written by Joseph ben Gorion, known as the 'Pseudo-Josephus' is considered part of the broader canon, though it would be considered an Old Testament work.[34] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oAz4ViTRlM Sizzla Lyrics- "Whether Or Not" "Whether Or Not" Yea burn away the anger and the fury, oy Hail king Selassie I, his praise and glory [CHORUS:] Whether or not, yo from them dis king Selassie I Babylon goin' collapse Whether or not, ey from yuh dis Emmanuel Babylon me know yuh heart goin' stop Whether or not, yo from yuh dis the Black woman Me know yuh glory it goin' drop Whether or not, from yuh nah love Rastafari That means say yuh doh love the Black Ey first of all that the woman mek me dey yah Black culture me talk that me deh say ah Dis Rastafari ah who dem a refer Bun John pope and the things whey dem a prefer Ey first of all a Black woman mek I dey yah Curruption dem a talk we nah love whey dem ah say yah Them dis King Selassie ey ah who you dey refer Come fi bun you out a Babylon things you prefer Ey live by the word what you speak 'cuz nowadays ghetto youths start see it Find out, you go bow to the beast In Mount Zion curruption cyar sweet Cyar dis the Black woman nor the high priest Cyar dis the profit with the vision inna the street Cyar dis the king inna tabanackle a teach Make the youths them love them one another, ah tell you it Stop bus the gun stop war stop flinch No apology or else we kick out your teeth Find out nuff ah them waa cheat True Rastaman are pray 'pon the mountain peak Fi protect and care fi the poor and the meek Don't dis the order, wake up on the east 'cuz poor people gone Babylon waan thief poor people farm Babylon waan reap Them nah give the ghetto youth one thing fi eat So nah bother dis the Rastafari ey nah bother do it Babylon ah kill the ghetto youth inna the street Mi say fi rise and live bongo nah go repeat Repatriation I nah go retreat, Babylon, gonna sink yuh inna the deep First of all ah the woman mek me dey ya Black culture we talk only that we gotta say yah Ey yuh dis Rastafari ah who yuh dey refer Find out a Vatican ways dem you prefer Ey first of all ah the woman mek me dey ya Bun John Paul Rastafari me prefer Hail King Selassie Babylon ah get deafer Ey they musbe check say dat them clever Check them meditation and hear them words They never did ah look much less fi observe Dem never did ah listen so dem never heard Dem dis the Messiah and waan go dis the Shepherd How come you alone waan __ the earth From Mount Zion I ah life Rasta preserve Babylon don't go round no curve Through we treat a situation pagan waan go swerve More me bun the fire more the people get hurt Some boy jus through the money them utter any word Just we full the belly jus we full the purse Babylon you silly Babylon you curse See say that the wicked man can't surf Righteousness, the ghetto youths dem merge Babylon must bow and kiss the dirt Dem nah love Rastaman, much less we work The west minister law ah go get burst Rastafari principle, yo ah it govern the earth Babylon me see say you dey come merge Hail King Selassie I, the first [CHORUS:] Whether or not, yo from them dis Rastafari Babylon goin' collapse Whether or not, ey from yuh dis Emmanuel Babylon me know yuh heart goin' stop Whether or not, yo from them doh love the Black woman Me find out dem ratings goin' drop Whether or not, from yuh nah love Rastafari
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| Religion / Re: Aksum Zion Church - Resting Place Of The Ark Of The Covenant by Tampinu(m): 9:29pm On Sep 21, 2017 |
Hati13: This is news to me, but as I was brought up to always fear and respect the King, I confirm that since I never heard the King mention it, I do not wish to repeat what my King never said. Peace
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| Religion / Re: Aksum Zion Church - Resting Place Of The Ark Of The Covenant by Tampinu(m): 8:22pm On Sep 21, 2017 |
Hati13: Even Haile Selassie I mentioned this and it can be found in the Book of Acts of the Apostles 8:26-40 Acts 8:26-40 King James Version (KJV) 26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, 28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. 29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. 30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? 31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. 32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: 33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. 34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.
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| Religion / Re: The Ark Of The Covenant Is In Ethiopia! by Tampinu(m): 8:13pm On Sep 21, 2017 |
Hati13: Thanks for the info, most Nigerians don't know about Ethiopian Christianity, they think Christianity was brought to the whole of Africa by the Europeans. It's good that we are waking up to our true heritage and destiny! 1 Like
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| Religion / The Ark Of The Covenant Is In Ethiopia! by Tampinu(m): 7:12pm On Sep 21, 2017 |
The Holy Bible states that where the Ark of the Covenant is represents where God will manifest in flesh! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3tNvCHHyJE&feature=youtu.be Therefore Ethiopia is God's own country! Psalm 102:16 King James Version (KJV) 16 When the Lord shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory. (If Zion is Africa, then there's no doubt whatsoever that the "man" that set up Organisation of African Unity (OAU) to "build Zion/Africa" is the same person that was mentioned in Psalm 102:16) Needless to say that He appeared in His Full Glory! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYToFl_tf-M Though I guess that is open to discussion and debate... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHatEHJ4nmA&t=7s Psalm 87 Psalm 87 King James Version (KJV) 87 His foundation is in the holy mountains. 2 The Lord loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. 3 Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God. Selah. 4 I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there. 5 And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her. 6 The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there. Selah. 7 As well the singers as the players on instruments shall be there: all my springs are in thee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE_KhbiKr3c 1 Like
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| Religion / Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Tampinu(m): 12:50am On Sep 21, 2017 |
am0sn0nyu: If a friend is ill and I fast from Midnight until 6pm the next day, and break my fast at 7pm by eating a very nice and pleasant meal, does that mean I did not make any sacrifice by fasting several hours whilst I was fasting? Your answer will inform how I contribute further... Peace
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| Religion / Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Tampinu(m): 12:44am On Sep 21, 2017 |
am0sn0nyu: Christianity is an African affair, Ethiopia is the first kingdom mentioned in the Bible and an Ethiopian was the first Christian baptied after Christ arose. The Ark of Covenant is in Ethiopia....What more evidence do we need to know that we AFRICANS are the true Jews? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX2KbeD2_PE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHatEHJ4nmA&t=7s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gDEXmyoC_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NwEKZ_3erM Enemies Are Confounded Sizzla Ah mi say ever livin' life and prosperity King Rastafari ah we culture and black heritage woy Ever livin' life and prosperity Rastafari ah we culture and black heritage And even for my sons and my daughters Honor thy mother and thy father Length of days and we'll prosper Selassie I is our master, yo For the enemies are confounded Rastafari power overthrow them, yo No lamb to no slaughter Payin' I to work for your laughter Who trick the people I say it's the pastor Babylon, you're a dirty bastard yaw For the enemies are confounded, yo Rastafari knowledge overthrow them, yo What to do where to go, yow Nuttin' to prove yet I'll show To those who want to learn, I'll teach those yah Ethiopia Africa is my birthplace, defender of the faith I've see them all in there lurking place For the innocent they wait, put up them trap in place Hoping to see someone take the bait Them never have no head space, to see what Selassie I create Oh oh, Rastafari is so great, so The enemies are confounded, yo Rastafari come and overthrow them, oh Ah mi say ever livin' life and prosperity King Selassie ah we culture and black heritage woy Ever livin' life and prosperity Rastafari ah we culture and black heritage Oh, the enemies are confounded, yo Rastafari power overthrow them, yo And even for my sons and my daughters, yeah Honor thy mother and father Length of days and we all shall prosper Rastafari is our master And I am no lamb to no slaughter The worth of Rasta is not mocked with no laughter Who trick the people I say it's the pastor Babylon, you're a dirty bastard For the enemies are confounded, yo And all those wicked ones that crowned them, oh The enemies are confounded, yeah Rastafari come and overthrow them, yeah Ah mi say ever livin' life and prosperity Rastafari is I culture and black heritage, whoa Ever livin' life and prosperity Rastafari is I culture and black heritage, yeah Ever livin' life and prosperity Rastafari is I culture and black heritage, yo Ever livin' life and prosperity Rastafari is I culture and black heritage, yo And the enemies are confounded, yo Rastafari come and overthrow them And the enemies are confounded, yo Rastafari come and overthrow them
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| Religion / Re: Why Haile Selassie I Is Jesus Christ Of Nazareth... by Tampinu(m): 12:27am On Sep 21, 2017 |
Scatterscatter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1F2NQL_BhE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87lTwnxexQA
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| Religion / Re: Reasons Why The Apocrypha Does Not Belong In The Bible by Tampinu(m): 11:10pm On Sep 20, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: Religion is different from Spirituality.. |
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