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TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 1:16pm On Dec 07, 2013
justwise: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/statement-of-changes-in-immigration-rules--5


Read the part that reads:
I am making changes to the rules for dependants in the Points Based System and other work routes, following the High Court judgment in R (on the application of Zhang) v Secretary of State for the Home Department. The changes will allow dependants to apply from within the UK, providing they are not here illegally, as visitors, or on temporary admission or temporary release. They will still need to satisfy all other existing requirements.
oga @justwise, the interpretation is rather the reverse, you cannot apply if you are here illegally, as visitors, or on temporary admission or temporary release...it is not possible to apply for spouse visa while in the UK on a tourist/visitor visa.
SportsRe: Nigeria In The World-cup Group F With Argentina, Iran and Bosnia Herzegovina by target007(m): 7:22pm On Dec 06, 2013
Strauskhan1: Ghana is dead sad. I don't know how to xplain this but its likely Nigeria lifts this world cup angry
LOL cheesy cheesy cheesy You must be a dreamer, well miracles do happen ooh but I sense that you are talking as an inexperienced or no knowledge of other teams like Spain, Brazil, Germany, Argentina and Uruguay...These teams are far better than Nigeria.

Let's hope we qualify for round of 16 and then I will say we've done well. Anything beyond that will be BIG surprise and a MIRACLE cheesy grin cheesy

I wish Nigeria well in Brazil 2014.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 11:55pm On Dec 05, 2013
Proudlygemini: I cam across the post and wanted to ask a few questions. Does this mean that someone with a general visitor visa for 2years can switch to a spouse visa while in the uk. Reason i'm asking is because my husband is british and we plan on settling in the uk soon, he wants me to extend my tourist visa to 2years and while i'm in th uk switch to d spouse category. pls is this possible and what do u advise
@Proudlygemini, No you cannot switch from visitor's visa. I must have mis-understood the materials I read then. Actually from another website, here is the immigration minister statement related to your question:

I am making changes to the rules for dependants in the Points Based System and other work routes, following the High Court judgment in R (on the application of Zhang) v Secretary of State for the Home Department. The changes will allow dependants to apply from within the UK, providing they are not here illegally, as visitors, or on temporary admission or temporary release. They will still need to satisfy all other existing requirements.
So, you may still have to go back to your home country to apply for spouse visa i'm afraid.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 6:08pm On Dec 05, 2013
damyoyepitan: Once it gts to court and dey stil don't chnge deir mind,den what happens.also wen wil I gt dis determination .to no when the hearing will take place.
Common damy, why are you sounding as someone who has already lost hope? You need to be very strong now. Anyway if you need to know I will tell you...if you lost the first hearing you can still appeal to a higher tribunal/court (2nd tier). But honestly I cannot see your case pass the the first tier tribunal, just believe as all others have believed here and have given their testimonies. I can understand it is difficult for you but just like others mentioned, it is a matter of time ... it will tick away and you will be smiling once again.

Take it it easy ooo madam smiley
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 3:26pm On Dec 05, 2013
damyoyepitan: Hi justwise ,girlflo and others in the house ,so. I got a message from sheffield saying ..Thank you for your email. Your appeal was reviewed by one of our ECMs and it was decided that the Refusal would be upheld by our office. The appeal bundle has now been sent to the Courts & Tribunals Service for the hearing scheduled on: 27/03/14

There is nothing that our office can do now regarding speeding this process up.

Kind regards,

J Colton
Pls what can I do now .
I am so sorry damy to read this. The only thing I can say now is that you will have to face this situation as it has become a longer journey. I will advice that don't re-apply please as you cannot be sure if they will approve it. So one thing I will add to what Girlfio had already said will be that you make sure that you consistently communicate via email, phones and if possible let your husband make as many visits as possible to Nigeria to enhance the support that your relationship is genuine and subsisting. And make sure you keep every record as you will need it.

I can only pray that God will give you a very strong mind to withstand this new phase of your application. I believe God will see you thru'. You will give a positive testimony about this in Jesus Name.
TravelRe: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by target007(m): 2:58pm On Nov 28, 2013
ogakpatakpata: .

You are always welcome. Cheers.
@ogakpatakpata, as a Nigerian do I need a tourist visa to Dubai if I going via Ethiopia or I get a visa on touch down in Dubai Airport?
TravelRe: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by target007(m): 12:45pm On Nov 28, 2013
ogakpatakpata: .

1. Both emirates are good,but, personally in my opinion, l will prefer Dubai because it attracts more tourist than other emirates and like some people do say, all the fun begins and ends in dubai.

2. Emirates & Etihad are the most popular because they are both based here in the UAE, but, personally l prefer Etihad, they are cheaper/flexible compared to Emirates airlines, with Etihad you can arrive the UAE and scan for cheap hotels/family accommodation yourself ,but, Emirates airlines are too rigid, they will want to book your hotel accommodations for you unlike Etihad that allows you do that yourself. l also know that rwanda airlines seems to be the cheapest but, l was told by friends that it makes noise like MOLUE... cheesy grin cheesy.

3. In my honest opinions, l will recommend Etihad airlines to/for you

Goodluck & wish you and your spouse and enjoyable holiday in the emirates.
@ogakpatakpata, thanks so much but you are a very funny man wink cheesy wink I would have probably try the Rwanda Airline if I was going alone, just to experience the MOLUE-like songs cheesy grin cheesy grin

Once again, I thank you so much for lending us your valuable experience for free.
TravelRe: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by target007(m): 11:54am On Nov 28, 2013
Hello my good people in the house!

I need advice on the following:

1.I intend to visit UAE -Dubai or Abu Dhabi, which is a better holiday location to visit during December/New year?

2. My spouse is in Nigeria but I am based in UK, what is the cheapest option available for us making that arrangement as per us booking hotel and making arrangement to meet up?

3. Which is the cheapest airline option available from Nigeria in this time of the year?

4. has anyone has this type of experience(s) before, please help?

I await your goodwill responses please. Don't mind my stupid questions, it is said if you ask for a direction certainly you will reach your destination with ease and faster too.

Many thanks.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 7:38pm On Nov 23, 2013
damyoyepitan: Girlflo.so I mailed dem @ sheffield and got dis

Thank you for your email.

Your appeal is currently being reviewed by one of our ECMs and the decision will soon be made to either overturn the original Refusal, or to uphold the decision and send it to be decided by the Courts & Tribunals Service.
Does it not seem faster as d just got d bundle on nov 14th,
Hello Damy, I am praying for a miracle for you that this happens as quickly as possible in Jesus name.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 7:35pm On Nov 23, 2013
twitterfreakwink:
pls how long will a visa appeal take[color=#990000][/color]
For Visitor visa, administrative review might take between 28 days to say 12 weeks.

For Settlement Visa it is between 12 weeks and 19 weeks (ECM review) between 22 weeks and 1 year (if it went to court).
PoliticsRe: President Goodluck Jonathan Has Medical Treatment While In London - 21/11/2013 by target007(op): 6:04pm On Nov 21, 2013
Please let us all pray for our president for good health, strength and long life.

Happy Birthday in advance Mr. President!
PoliticsPresident Goodluck Jonathan Has Medical Treatment While In London - 21/11/2013 by target007(op): 6:00pm On Nov 21, 2013
ABUJA (Reuters) - Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan received medical treatment on Thursday while on a visit to London, his office said, describing it as "precautionary" and saying his condition was not serious.
Jonathan, who turned 56 on Wednesday, was due to be at an investment meeting in London on Thursday but was not well enough to attend. He has no known serious illnesses.
"President Jonathan has since been examined by competent medical practitioners. He has been advised to rest for a few days," the presidency said in a statement.
"The Presidency wishes to assure all Nigerians that President Jonathan's condition is nothing serious and that the medical attention he has sought is only precautionary."
Jonathan, a Christian from the southern oil-producing Niger Delta, came to power in May 2010 when former President Umaru Yar'Adua died after a long-running heart condition.
Jonathan won an election in 2011 and could be the ruling party candidate again when Africa's top oil producer and second largest economy goes to the polls in early 2015.
(Reporting by Felix Onuah; Writing by Joe Brock; Editing by Tim Cocks and Robin Pomeroy)

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/nigerian-president-medical-treatment-london-presidency-160813024.html#1kCdZt0
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 10:45pm On Nov 14, 2013
damyoyepitan: Thnks target and girlflo.can I send new docs as well like stamp pages of my hubbys passort since his been in nigeria twice since I got refused.
Yes, Please.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 7:49pm On Nov 14, 2013
Damyoyepitan: When he receives the appeal, an Entry Clearance Manager at Sheffield has the opportunity to review the refusal of Ms Adeyemi’s visa application. If he is satisfied, he can arrange for a visa to be issued. If not, the appeal will be heard by the Tribunal...
So dt march 27 is dt d date am to wait for ,plus can we stil submit documents to sheffield from now till date time .pls advice .
Yes, I believe 27th March 2014 is your 19 Week notice (I calculated it and it was exactly 19 weeks). I pray that God will help you through it as he has been doing for others and it shall be successful visa in Jesus Name.

Yes, you can send additional support documents you sure are relevant to your application...PLEASE MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT NEW EVIDENCE OH as it will not count towards the ECM decision on your application.

I received an email from them 2 days ago about our appeal as well, it is still siting there to be photocopied and IA10 Notice of Pending Appeal is yet to be issued. So I'm expecting like APRIL 2014 for our 19 Week notice now except a miracle happens and our reconsideration letter to the ECM is considered positively.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 6:04pm On Nov 14, 2013
comfortmuniru: everybody in the house please help me praise the name of Lord!, the name that is above every other name, i just got my spouse visa today, was scared to death because i applied just on the 9th of october and i am here with my visa just 1 month, and the visa was issued on the 29th of october so it took just three weeks. please i am overjoyed. thank you justwise, girflo, everyone in this forum. u pple are just too good, please keep doing what you are doing. God will always reward you. i am around if anyone needs advice or wants to knw the documents i submitted. thank you all so much. God Bless
Congratulations! I am really happy for you. whaooh, this is so fast. How I wish ours went that way. Anyway all things work together for good for those that loved God and he orders their footsteps. It is the Lord's doing and it is marvellous in our eyes.

I believe that God that had done yours will do for all of us that are still waiting at the appropriate times.

May it be a blessed visa for you in Jesus Name.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 12:41pm On Nov 08, 2013
@loomjet,

I am really happy for you, congratulations!

All the wait, anxiety and strees of waiting is finally over for you, I thank God for you. cheesy cheesy cheesy
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 2:02pm On Oct 25, 2013
Mrs F: Hi guys!!!
I finally got my Visa today aftr 2 refusals and an appeal which is stil ongoing!!
Thnks to every1 on dis forum yu guys hv bin awesome! Goods news I hv gottn here gve me hope dt one day all dis wd end!!
Thnks every1!!
Congratulations Mrs F...I really blessed God for you indeed, the waiting is now over.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 2:00pm On Oct 25, 2013
Ebeano49: It is with indescribable joy that I inform the house that my wife received an email from Sheffield this evening advising that her refusal has been overturned!! We will be forwarding her passport to Sheffield first thing tomorrow morning via DHL. I thank everyone in this forum for all your advise, support and prayers. Above all, I thank God almighty for His grace and kindness. For those still waiting, I pray God will also intervene in your cases and grant you your heart desire in Jesus name. Amen!
Oh boy, I dey happy for you oh...congratulations and may the Lord perfect all the remaining processes. I blessed God for you my brother, great news.
I pray that it is well for those of us that are still waiting in Jesus name.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 9:26pm On Oct 17, 2013
@jenni1108: Congratulations, I am really happy for you as the waiting is now over.

I pray that it will happen for the rest of us that are still expecting as well by God's grace.
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by target007(m): 7:44am On Oct 08, 2013
Tofunmi2: Dis Guy
Thanks.
Can I ask for my passport while they continue with the visa process cos I av paid for it already.

Cheers
Yes, you can ask for your passport but you will loose your application fee (nonrefundable) because as per UKBA policy once you've asked for your passport to be returned before any visa decision they will cancel your application process and there is no refund. So i will advice, unless whatever you need your passport for outweighs the opportunity cost, in this case, your visa application fee, you may as well just wait for a UKBA decision on your visa application.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 8:32am On Oct 03, 2013
mato-justo:
@justwise,johnwray,lamosy,girlfio and all other forum mate,i just want to Thank the Awesome God for what he has done for me,for given me the good news dat i have been waiting long for.the Lagos Embassy rang me today to go and submite my passport to their Embassy in VI,@ justwise,johnwray,lamosy girlfio, i really thank u all for all the help and support u have all renderd to me,may God continue to bless u all. Infact am short of words,the lord that did it for lamosy,kuklose,misrable,supermario,girlfio,missjiji and the rest has finally done mine,i gave all the glory to God.i pray dat all other forum mates still luking up for good news concerning their Appeal will all received it in jesus name. @lamosy,i key into ur words dat i should pay my titthe and see if God will not suprise me,i did as u said,and God indeed has finally suprise me.i give all the glory to him. I will be submitting my passport either tomorrow or next.thank u all once again.
Congratulations! I thank God for you and rejoice with you and your family. Your testimony is indeed an encouragement to us who are still waiting for this kind of good news. It shall be a more wonderful and beautiful experience for you especially in the UK henceforth in Jesus name.
Nairaland GeneralRe: 3 Teenagers Arrested For Attempting To Stowaway In Lagos by target007(m): 11:12am On Oct 01, 2013
Can you please tell Nigerian youths that stowaway actually kills? They should face their studies first before thinking of any career outside their country.

Here is a piece I found about a stowaway from South Africa who was killed when trying it with a BA airline last year:
Flight fright: Stowaway passenger found dead at Heathrow in landing gear of British Airways plane

23 Aug 2012 20:15

Police were called when crew made the grim discovery on the British Airways Cape Town to London flight

The body of a stowaway was discovered in the landing gear of a plane at Heathrow today.

Police were called to the busy airport when crew made the grim discovery on the British Airways (BA) Cape Town to London flight.

The man has not been identified, but the Airports Company South Africa said a man was seen scaling a fence at Cape Town International Airport last night.

Security guards had chased the man, but lost sight of him.

A spokesman for BA said: "We are liaising with the South African authorities and Cape Town airport after a body was found in the landing gear bay of one of our aircraft.

"They are investigating how this incident took place, which involved a Boeing 747 which arrived this morning from Cape Town.

"This is a very rare and sad event and our thoughts are with the individual's family."

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said the man was not a passenger or member of air crew.

They added: "The death is being treated as non-suspicious.

"Enquiries are ongoing to establish the man's identity."

Flight fright: Stowaway passenger found dead at Heathrow in landing gear of British Airways plane
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m):
leeon2011: Hi
@girlfoi
@ justwise
Can u give me Mp letter format plz
I dont know what to write so plz any one can help me
check if this example will be OK and please make sure you make use of Girlfio pieces of advice....

Dear ... MP....

I am writing this letter in regards to settlement visa application for wife and son in Lahore, Pakistan. Their application was submitted to British High Commission on 17th May 2013 and time frame for such applications advertised by Home Office is 90 days which has been passed but we have not heard anything from them.

I don't mind waiting longer for visa application to be processed but we have circumstances which needs urgent attention. I applied for my son's school admission in Essex County School for September 2013 enrolment and they advised me that his application can not be dealt with unless they see his UK Visa.
I explained situation to Essex County School that his Visa application in its final days and should be dealt with any day now but school is unwilling to help us.
Now problem what we have is, if embassy takes another month or even longer process application and to issue visa then child will lose space in school and potentially one year of his education as deadline for admission would have been passed by then and school would not be accommodating any further admission applications due to limited spaces in school.

I would also like to bring this to your attention that according to Home Office website what they have mentioned:

If our visa processing service is experiencing delays, we will publish a news story on this website to explain what is happening. You can find recent news stories on the right side of this page.
If we have taken more than 3 weeks (for non-settlement visas) or 3 months (for settlement visas) to process your application, and we have not published a news story to explain the delay, you can email the Gerry's, who will forward your email to us for reply.
You can find their contact details on the Gerry's in Pakistan website. We will not respond to your enquiry if you contact us before this time has elapsed.

And they have not mentioned anything if they are experiencing delay.

Therefore I would request you to look into this as a matter of urgency and ask British Embassy in Pakistan to deal with my wife's and child's application urgently. For us its not only the matter of waiting but also the one year of my son who will not be able to get admission this year because embassy took longer than their standard advertised time scale for such applications.


Details of my wife and child's application are as follows.



Name: ------ ----
D.O.B: 00/00/0000
Application Submitted on 17/05/2013
Application Reference Number: LHE/000000/000000/0
Nationality: Pakistan

Name: --- -----
D.O.B: 00/00/0000
Application Submitted on 00/00/0000
Application Reference Number: LHE/000000/000000/0
Nationality: Pakistan
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 3:36pm On Sep 26, 2013
damyoyepitan: Hi girlflo and others ,pls I wanted to find out the next step aftr lodging an appeal and review and when we expect to hear from dem back concerning the dates and all.
@damyoyepitan, check out the info here Appeal procedures
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m):
@missjiji, I perceived it will be between one to 2 weeks barring any delay issues (e.g computer breakdown, broadband connection issue, network service provider issue e.t.c.). Good luck and may the Lord go before you and prepare grounds for you in the UK in Jesus name.



@EVERYONE, Check this out... You may learn one or two things:


Entry Clearance Guidance - General Instructions - Chapter 27
[url=http://collections.europarchive.org/tna/20080205132101/http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/ecg/ecgarchive/chapter27/#point four[/url]


Entry Clearance Guidance - General Instructions - Chapter 26
[url=http://collections.europarchive.org/tna/20080205132101/ukvisas.gov.uk/en/ecg/chapter26/#point fifteen] [/url]
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 11:30am On Sep 25, 2013
@missjiji,

CONGRATULATIONS! I am really happy for you.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 11:28am On Sep 25, 2013
@Girfio, CONGRATULATIONS!

Whaooh, I knew it will definitely happen well for you ... the wait is finally over for you, the decision to overturn the initial ECO's refusal decision is very well deserved. I am happy for you dear lady, I appreciate you so much for your unquenchable thirst to help others in this forum ... may God continue His good works in your life and family in Jesus Name.

Congrats once again.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m):
Guys just wanna share this information I came across when researching about ECM reviews

HO ECM Appeal Review

What actually happens after you submit an appeal against the refusal of a settlement visa ? Well, in theory two things happen. Firstly, the appeals process begins. In reality, you are sent an acknowledgment that the appeal has been received, and then nothing happens for some time. Secondly, a process called the ECM review is supposed to happen, but does it ? I want to concentrate on the ECM review process.

An ECM review of the application and decision is mandatory in every settlement visa refusal. The term "ECM review " is slightly misleading, however, as ECMs rarely do the review themselves. They normally delegate it to an ECO, and they have the right to do so. The ECM must, however, sign off the review with a decision to either reverse the refusal decision or allow the decision to proceed to appeal. As some of us know, the decision from the ECM review, even if it reverses the original refusal decision, can take up to four months to happen

Now, the important part. There is guidance , in the public domain, regarding the ECM review. It can be found in the Entry Clearance Guidance on the UKVISAs website. That guidance states:




How should the ECM Appeal Review be conducted
On receipt of an appeal, the ECM must review the ECO decision taking into account the grounds of appeal and any additional supporting documentation. Documents supplied at the time of application should be available for consideration if required. The ECM must decide to maintain the ECO decision or concede in light of the grounds of appeal.

Where an appellant provides evidence which appears to discharge the burden of proof and satisfactorily addresses the reasons for refusal the decision should be overturned and a visa issued.

If a decision has been taken to overturn the refusal and issue the visa, Post should write to the appellant within 10 working days requesting submission of the passport. Proviso should be updated accordingly. This 10 day time-frame is intended to minimise delays for appellants who have satisfactorily addressed the reasons for refusal.

For me, there are two important points in this guidance. Firstly, in the first paragraph, it states " on receipt of an appeal……………….". It doesn't say, for instance, after the appeal has been received and when the ECM decides to do it, a review should be carried out. It specifically says " on receipt ". The second point is that there appears to be a specific time-frame in this guidance. The third paragraph states " If a decision has been taken to overturn the refusal and issue the visa, Post should write to the appellant within 10 working days " and "This 10 day time-frame is intended to minimise delays for appellants who have satisfactorily addressed the reasons for refusal. ".

Now I see the above as guidance to the ECM to review the refusal decision, and correct the decision if it is wrong, within 10 days of receiving the appeal. So why does it take four months for the ECM review to be carried out ? There are various reasons, of course. If you manage to get the Embassy to respond to an enquiry about the ECM review they will tell you that the delay is due to a shortage of resources. That is not entirely true. The Embassy has the resources but they are using them for what they consider to be more important tasks. They are prioritising. In reality, the Embassy considers that their actual responsibility finishes when the decision to issue or refuse is made (your application fee only covers the process up to the point of the decision, really ). Anything that happens after the decision is basically not covered by your visa fee, so it does not carry much urgency.

Another point to consider is that the Embassy, after refusing a settlement application, works to the appeals time-frame. This gives them 16 weeks to actually get the appeal papers to the UK. Knowing that the ECM review must be carried out before the appeal papers are sent off to the UK, it means that they can actually forget about the review until a couple of days before the 16 week deadline.

When questioned about the 10 day time-frame in the guidance for ECM reviews the Embassy is extremely reluctant to provide a response, if they ever do. They will quote resources. They might even say that the guidance is only guidance, and they don't have to adhere to it. As far as I can see, the guidance is in place for a purpose, and that is to right any wrongs in the decision making process. If the ECO made the wrong decision, then it should be righted within a reasonable time-frame. It is not right that an applicant should be disadvantaged for up to four months. Similarly, as the guidance states, if further documentary evidence has been produced that would cause the visa to be issued, it should be issued. The guidance was put in place to protect the applicant. This is called natural justice. If the Embassy is not adhering to this guidance, why not ? Are they saying that the guidance is wrong ? Are they misinterpreting the guidance ? Are they unaware of the guidance ? Are they just plain ignoring it ?

I believe that applicants who have been refused settlement visas are being wrongly treated by the Embassy in that the guidance to ECOs and ECMs is being ignored. I believe that natural justice dictates that a wrong decision should be speedily righted. I believe that is why the guidance is there. You may disagree with my interpretation of the guidance. If so, let's have your opinion and debate it. If you are caught in the time gap between submitting an appeal and the ECM review, then inform the Embassy that you believe the review should be carried out in a timely manner.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 1:25pm On Sep 22, 2013
Matadaz: @ justwise, johnwray, girlfio and everyone in the house

To God Almighty be all the Glory.

My Appeal was allowed last week Thursday and got the determination this Tuesday.
I really want to say a very big THANKS to justwise,johnwray,lamorsy,Girlfio and all the other
Members of the House.

I pray to God to pls continues His Favour upon the members of this House,admin.
To the new Members,try read up the post,most of what U need for ur application are here.

Thanx alot to the House.
Congratulations! I am so happy for you and to God be all the glory. I've always believe that what is rightly yours can never be denied you. I pray that all of us that are expecting positive decisions on our appeals get desired results in Jesus name.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 4:58pm On Sep 15, 2013
target007:


@justwise,

Yes it may look that way but we don't just rush into the marriage we have been communication over the phone, emails, met my family members and I have been introduced to her parent over the phone with my pictures even before we met. I know it is visa that is involved here but it will also be wrong that two adults decided to marry each after 10 months of detailed communicating and family involvement we have gone, should not have been overlooked.

This is not enough reason for them refuse...How will they justify my spend some thousands of pounds communicating, travelling and spending on wedding, And even a stupendously wealthy man will not do this.

we had everyday of average of 60 minutes communications on phone coupled with emailing each other and I don't even have any idea I will need this as evidences to the application. All supporting documents as evidence were sent with the application.

In the email screenshots we sent we have our pictures when we start sending to each and parent pictures ... they cannot just come that conclusion ... this ECO has been biased in his judgement of our situations going by the level of details communications we sent to them before and after we met ... I think it should have been a better result.

Anyway point taken, more advice or opinions will be highly appreciated please.

Thanks.
justwise: My brother you are looking at this the wrong way, i don't doubt for a single moment that you have been intouch with this woman for a long time via phone and emails but without evidence of those communications your application will always be refused, you left them with the impression that this is sham marriage (which is not) because this is exactly how those who engage in sham marriage go about their businesses.

For you to convince the ECO that your marriage is genuine you need to present hard evidences not just representations, the same thing with your appeal, its not good enough to appear in tribunal to explain things but you have to do it pointing to paper evidences to support everything you are saying. Anybody can come up with stories but to back up your story with verifiable evidence is what makes your case thicker.
Many thanks Justwise, Girlfio and JohnWray: Yes, our situation looks a little bit awkward. I have looked at the situation critically and I have decided to go for the use of a lawyer. So, I will say thank you to Halle26 for supplying me the detail of her Lawyer. So fingers+ for the foreseeable future.
TravelRe: UK Spouse Visa/Appeal Process-part2 by target007(m): 12:54am On Sep 15, 2013
Why waste your money ... His a way of escape for non-European immigrants in UK

Check This Out - The Britons leaving the UK to get their relatives in


Surinder Singh

Normally a citizen can’t exercise EU treaty rights in his own country as the country domestic rules apply. However, where an EEA national has exercised a treaty right in another member state as a worker or self-employed and they wish to return to their own country afterwards, certain provisions apply in order for their non-EEA family members to qualify under the EEA Regulations (this is called “Surinder Singh” following a ECJ judgement in 1992 in the case of Surinder Singh) .

Recommend reading:

Regulation 9ECO guidelines (EUN) on Surinder Singh

Relevant regulations:

Regulation9

Questions:

Q1: What are the conditions to make use of Surinder Singh route?

Regulation 9 requires to following to make use of Surinder Singh route:

• the UK citizen is residing in the other member state as a worker or self-employed person
• The family member is married/CP to the UK citizen and has been living together in the other member state.


Q2: Is the family member required to hold a visa / Residence Card of the other member state?

No. This is not required. However, the family member would need to provide proof of residence in the another member state and a Residence Card can help proving that.


Q3: How long is the British citizen and family member are required to live in the other member state?

This is not specified in the regulations. The longer, the better chances of satisfying the HO. The rule of thumb given in the forum is 6 months but an application can be made before that and if refused, a new application can be made a few weeks later.


Q4: Is a EEA Family Permit required to return to the UK?

No. You can also seek admittance at the border (this is mainly relevant if the family member is non visa national or you are crossing at Calais/any other port).

However, as the relevant documents required for the Surinder Singh route are those from the other member state, it make sense to verify you have all the required documents before returning to the UK. Obtaining them later might be more difficult. Also, the local staff in the consulate can normally read documents in the local language so there is no need to translate them.


Q5: What are the requirements once you return to the UK? When can a Residence Card be applied for?

Once you are back in the UK, there are no specific requirements. Under the Surinder Singh route, only the activities in the other member state matter. You are not required to work in the UK in order for the family member to reside in the UK.

It is advisable for the family member to apply for a Residence Card using form EEA2. The form has a dedicated section for Surinder Singh cases. You will need to provide (again) evidence of the British national employment in the other member state and evidence of residence there. The application can be made any time once you return.

After 5 years of residence, an application for Confirmation of PR status using form EEA4 can be applied for. Again, the same evidence from the other member state is required. Once a PR status has been obtained (after 5 years of residence), the non-EEA national can apply for British citizenship as a spouse of BC
TravelRe: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by target007(m): 3:16pm On Sep 14, 2013
Hi Guys I just wanna share this web page with you all...This shows what a mountain of brick-wall the families of immigrants especially that of non-Europeans are facing in the hand of the UK government:

The families separated by the government

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