₦airaland Forum

vanbonattel:
The army caused this. Why did they provoke peaceful protesters by shooting them.

You're sounding rather irritating..


You can be provoked
To act or not is what makes you a higher animal not a bird or mouse..
As a human, intelligent one at that, learning to subdue your will, is necessary, despite different stimuli no matter the difficulty.
So you will be held accountable for your actions, provoked or not!!



To destroy things/ places that make life easy for them was moronic..


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wilsonchekwas:
People will just be walking on the road and get arrested. You can't even be a suspect once your arrested in Nigeria. You're convicted without any investigation

I hope your assertion hasn't happened in this case..



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Comedian2019:
I'm waiting for them to arrest Boko, herdsmen and bandits like this.

We in SouthWest roll differently


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joinpreneur:
Oat of secrecy on a public matter? .

Nooo... Oooo.. na rice of secrecy

Oga that's procedure

Ever done jury service


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By the way.. Wetin she bon

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Why is Desmond replying naysayers..
Na so dem style be...

I'm no Apologist but a fair minded person seeking to know the truth..

BUT the abundance of fakenews, unapologetic emotive attacks on those who question these merchants and peddlers of false news and anarchy beggars belief!!..


As they say..... We move........ Not to anarchy, not to tribal or religious division.. but to tear down fake news and unnecessary attempts to incite people against each other.



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jabor4Naija:
Of all days to carry out maintenance, the bank picked a day that the governor had imposed a curfew, too bad. I feel bad for the bank but we all know insurance will take care of everything.
P.S. I hope the maintenance man wasn't harmed?

Its rather convenient to forget to mention that the curfew on the day was instituted with a few hours prior notice.. Reason why it was changed to a later time.

Maintenance repairs are prebooked days ahead except there's an in-house team!!!!
This should explain away your assertion.


Its a shame that the TV house got carried along with the dangerous tide of false news to build the clout of being the 1st with breaking news..

Others should learn to verify before publishing


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bolanto24:
Somebody that was in Big brother this year. you think it's beans

Which version BB.. , ,
The Ghanaian version in boarding school dorms or the Cameroonian version with garish colours..


Definitely not a personality to reckon with.. If on the BB Naija



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360degreess:
.. Some of these media houses fueled the whole thing by spreading fake news just like ipob miscreants. Same way they spread the fake news of "lekki massacre", but after sometime, the "lekki dead bodies" are now resurrecting one by one.................... .******** One of the #End SARS "dead victims " was Caught stealing the phone of the nurse that was treating him in hospital. They are indeed peaceful protesters. *******

Can't help but chuckle at the last bit in stars...



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SoBright101:
1. Are you still calling the dj switch live video a photoshopped and the developed countries that intervened can't differentiate between real occurrence and photoshopped.


2. You need to change your old way of doing things if you really want this country to develop.


This current government rode on freedom of speech to power

3. now you want to ban same freedom of speech you people benefits from, you can do that in the north but we will resist in south.


Is not like the present government is doing better or you want everyone to be dumb like the paid agents?

4. Do you people want to turn Nigeria to North Korea?

Hello Mazi,

I've broken your convo into bits

Addressing the 1st..
In my initial post, I mentioned no names.. But as you've decided to mention one of the authors of the several videos and posts, I'll address this.

My perusal will suggest that some posts were made to be as inflammatory as possible. The thread of inconsistencies in their recollections was alarming. The only vid I found relatively robust and reflective of a true assessment of the events of that fateful night was that of a man called ojekabi supported by the newscaster Philip

Regarding events of the night.. There are many questions, some of which are--
1. Was the army called in
2. By whom
3. Who was the commander
4. Where they asked to shoot or to scare away the protesters
5. Were they attacked by the protesters
6. At what point did the upward trajectory of shots into the air become levelled at protesters
6b. Was live ammunition used.. as denounced by Ret Col Stan-Labor
7. When did the ambulances get to the scene
8. Who called them and from which hospitals
9. Why were they not allowed in.. Ongoing shooting or..other reasons
10. The verified videos of the shot dead victims, where are the families now??
Please don't mention Okechukwu, a known IPOB comrade who by photo evidence and FB timelines, unfortunately died in a motor cycle accident - may his soul rip!!
11. Who was still shooting all through the night if any till 6.30am the following day after Brig Gen Omata had taken his men away.. Where is Lt Col OS Bello the original leader at the moment??

Foreign governments are interested because of some of these questions have raised-- human rights law contraventions not necessarily whether it's 1,2,67 or 78 people that died.. ****Died!! ... not injured that night.****

The IPOB crew by spreading inflammatory statements/pictures that are later found to be false are only perpetuating the myth that nothing or something minimal happened that night.....?
That will also by default taint any other accusations of human rights law contraventions, raising the question of probability of occurrence and or veracity of recounted events.......
That is the huge fallout from this slippery slope they've adopted. In addition to the ongoing looting and destruction.

A pyrrhic victory, if at all!!!

As they tried to hijack the original #ENDSARS protests to support their purpose, other groups or personal interests will hijack the confusion and anarchy they are so desperately trying to create to support their agendas. The Oba's Palace invasion is a clear example.


What you find in most of the debates(or preferably arguments) is that people are often mixing all the questions up!!! We can't get clear answers if there are no clear questions to guide us.. This leads to more distrust with a return to further increasing the divide alongst political, tribal and religious lines.

Something that was surprisingly minimised during the time of the original protest.



To the 2nd.
I completely agree.. To get new results, you can not continue to do things like before



To the 3rd

Resistance or not, it's often very difficult to unwind certain actions!! ... That's why the adage... Prevention is better than cure.. Is rather popular. It was a near miss at enactment a few months ago, let's not go back on the slippery trajectory.



Let us be guided
And be wise in these times

God bless us all.




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SoBright101:
Don't be deceived

Beware Nigerians. This is the time to know and understand the true identity of those who cause tribalism on here, they are paid agents, they are neither from east or west. They have more than twenty monikers, they would create tribal related topics and make tribal comments with different monikers to cause chaos between southerners. Though, they have no conscience but you can try to educate them or better ignore them. They are easy to identify, use your head brothers.

Also Be aware that tactics and plans has been deployed to cover up the massacre since all their efforts to break southern unity were not fruitful. They have created a lot of Facebook and Twitter accounts with Yoruba or Igbo names for this purpose, one of them is to post pictures or video of people who debunked being killed, those pictures were scripted and earlier been circulated for this purpose. They would discredit real occurrence and give it another title and narratives. Beware of the propaganda

They dominates this platform, they are agents of destruction. They posts mostly in the midnight. They have no resting time until they are able to convince their oppressors.

They are getting as good as the group who keep posting photoshopped pictures and highly exaggerated evidence/numbers in order to buttress their agendas or narrative underpinning their desire for anarchy....

Both teams are just as bad as each other.


Both groups should curb their excesses before a ban on freedom of speech is enacted.


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Yankee101:
Sanctions loading soon

Not a single one... Once the evidence is properly combed through in detail


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gboyetade:
Are there so much individuals affected?

I hope it will not be another avenue for govt officials / publics to exploit the system?

Kindly look at the non-photoshopped pictures of wanton destruction alongst some of the streets in Surulere, The shopping centres in Lekki, Falomo shopping centres.. Certain there are some that are yet to be fully publicized.



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Brooklynsouth:
state sponsored vandalism ,Nigerian government is culpable in all these destructions and they know it only zombies think otherwise

Ma'am please provide the evidence to support your claim.......

Non photoshopped pictures,
video +/- oral conversation accounts
Affidavits

Otherwise hold your piece.
Don't bother to reply with curses or abuses.. As they all stay with you in multiples!!!!





No to emotive outbursts with no proper evidence.. Which has been the manner of some people in this forum

We as a nation need to self-police and expose elements within, who fester on fake news merchandise!!!!!


We say to the government, not to pass the false information bill, not to take away our right to information and free speech, that we can self-govern but........... can't curb fake news merchants within - a principal reason behind the bill.....



Wake up people..
Enough of all this nonsense
People have lost lives, businesses and all that's good and proper on the back of stoking unnecessary fires......... And despite the destruction, some online miscreants carry on trying to perpetuate anarchy by peddling ill-researched news to support their agendas!!


Enough is enough!!!


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Interesting times.


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Its difficult to believe any of these videos..

RIP to the young man if dead as no verified pictures to support this assertion.



Even when there are non-photoshopped pictures, it's difficult to ascertain and verify the time, place and the person who carried out the killing... . The young woman in Awka comes to mind..

I'd say that people be very careful in the coming days....... .
In order to push different agendas ahead, there appears to be victims that have been murdered by their colleagues with subsequent information with pictures released to SM +/-Press relayed to suggest extrajudicial killings.

Agendas by the individuals taking the law into their hands, armed thugs and other partisan groups, have turned the situation into such a tense volatile atmosphere. Each with his/her own narrative.

Be careful, all.



God be with us all.
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Racoon:
http://saharareporters.com/2020/10/20/endsars-ex-lagos-governor-tinubu-justifies-use-force-peaceful-protesters-president

That's been linked to an overzealous senator's aide


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teemy:
At the moment, it is just a thin thread before a shoot-on-sight order would be given against anyone caught looting

This is when and where the original heads of the protest should send out warnings or calls for the looting to stop

Where are they??

Can they please stand up, please stand up??


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LikeAking:
Life favours only the brave.

The runs girl get plenty connects as a result of their network.

They are also exposed to diff rich guys,rich neighborhoods,parties,etc

The worked hard to get those good/rich husbands.

The good girls just fold their hands for life to hand over what they have not worked for to them.


Life is just.

You cant stay in your fadas house and expect Dangotes son to marry you.

They reap what they sowed.

Life is balanced, na human beings wey no balance.

Only a very small percentage get the "pretty woman" movie effect..

A considerable fraction if alive, end up as the op described if not on the short term, definitely on the long term.

Years or decades later, they still compare very poorly to their colleagues who chose to do things right despite the difficult terrain.


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nwaezeemmanuel:
"It's unfair to deny her what she craves.."

I love that, because some couples may have issues with sex during pregnancy. A few men may find their wives less attractive during gestation.

That's the subconscious there in action or my phone's predictive texting

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[quote author=NASTYNASOSO post=95314301][/quote]Young man, it would be wise to watch your utterances..
This is a discussion not an insult-hurling contest.

This should be based on FACTs not personal opinions of right or wrong. What is the code of engagement with the army :- avail yourself of some education rather than throw tantrums over the Internet.

To your accusation,.. I'm no murderer.. I help give life!!

I've only stated what I'm aware of..


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NASTYNASOSO:
https://thenationonlineng.net/odi-leaders-to-obasanjo-youre-not-fit-to-comment-on-lekki-shootings/

Correct my wrong assumptions

Wasn't OBJ's response provoked by the initial murder of the army officers sent to Odi..

A retaliation for..... killing army officers which is akin to a declaration of war according to the NA codebook.

Please clarify if I've assumed wrong.

Shall we verify this claim please?

Please this is where we should admonish people appropriately..

The funds received should be forwarded to the aggrieved persons..


#Changebeginswithme


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Didi2d:
Look,
Thanks, I have been considering taken a walk. The relationship isn't working at all

Good luck man

Realistically take a short break, make it amiable and take a very good look at things

You both may just need some space to reappraise..

Identify any couple goals that have been achieved and compare visavis the areas of concerns.
On balance, make a decision..


Pls remember that the grass always appear greener on the other side. Compromise and managing each other's deficiencies is key to a successful relationship.


Good luck..


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Good topic with very helpful advice..

For intimacy, spooning is really very good

Doggy is useful for the pounders - pseudo pounders..although best avoided late in pregnancy, bleeding in pregnancy,.


For some women, their sex drive increases during pregnancy. It's unfair to deny her what she craves..

Sex during pregnancy is also different for the man.. Increased temperatures, secretions and more flesh to handle due to increased circulating steroids make for a very enjoyable experience.


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LucemFerre:
Tear gas... una no dey hear word.
Na so una go dey spread stupid news

Make uno mind them

#fakenewsgeng

Let's start naming and shaming.. This inflammatory response to incite or stir must be stopped!!


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csn01:
are they still shooting.?

If my memory serves me right, forgive me.. Age is catching up

The police academy is rather lacking in upskilling its officers as compared to the airforce or the navy in my humble opinion....

Remember the few occasions I had the privilege of watching them train - - it was a little shambolic

Might well explain the lapses in people engagement during civil unrest.

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ATEAMS:
Sometimes you need to know your place in someone’s life because you might get hurt if you expect too much.

Bros.. Forgive me sitting on this ya mata..

That ish must have hurt..

Ndo, Pele... really heartfelt

I did tell you to stop waxing lyrics..

The redpill guys might be of help here..
Where are they sef?


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Interesting

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MrNipplesLover:
well, I'm not planning for any marriage sha.
no need for filing any bullshitt.


na baby mama level I dey plan now.

no time for nonsense

Get your legal paperwork in place

The girls are getting wiser and upgrading
Everyday SM is littered with pictures of BMs wanting to bankrupt their Baby daddies.

Learn lessons from the drama unfolding from certain prominent musicians


Get your paperwork in place.. Its a contract with obligations on both parts-- a pre-nup of sorts

Otherwise its years of rancour and court visits.

I expect things will get harder in the next few years in this area for well-heeled fathers who are neglecting their duties as regards their offspring.


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Didi2d:
What about those that didn't do marriage, but are staying together with their kids. What's the process of separation?

Simply take a walk...
But sort out child visitation rights as mothers are by default, guardians

The law isn't mature here for financial rights in the case of cohabitation.

However, if there's been a traditional wedding, in some cultures--an introduction ceremony may suffice - - then the law is applied along the same lines as stated above.. Is what I'm aware of..

BUT Let's await the opinion of the legal luminaries


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