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A lot of comments here are quite worrisome and it seems like some people have been trained to hate Islam and Muslims because of their modest form of dressing in the hijab, as opposed to their own immoral dresses and way of life. Obviously a lot of this people, especially some christians that preach tolerance are irritant who don't wish for morality to prevail in our society. I can also understand from the comment that some are geniunely ignorant about government being the true owners of the aforementioned schools and hence their argument against the usage of the hijabs in the supposed "christian schools" was justified!

However, since government owned this schools, Muslims who wish to exercise their religious right should be free to do so without being intimidated in any form!!!

Lol..Sincerely, I can see that its wastage of time debating ignorant infidels like you for the following reasons:
1)Why did u came to this group in the first place meant for Islamic discussion.I'm not sure you have a good intention.lol
2)I can only debate with people that are open minded and willing to learn from their stupidity.Not dumb people who are so stubborn to embrace the truth
3)You seem to distort every fundamentals and teachings of Islam while you care less to talk about your filthy corrupted bible full of ample errors,mistakes and even written porn as contained in the songs of solomon(lol).

So,really you don't worth spending much time with because I have dealt with ignorant, narrow-minded people like you in the past, but always prove to waste people's time despite the effort to guide you from the deluded path of destruction!

But thank God you are a Nigerian.The best advice I will leave behind for you is to attend ACADIP PROGRAMME(you can google about them on the internet), and try and attend one of their programmes.You can then lay your silly questions to them and see how they burst your brain with refutations,lol,and how Christianity will be put to shame!!!

In case you need this “He [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘Verily, I am a slave of Allaah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet’” [Maryam 19:30] “The Messiah ['Eesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Maryam (Mary)] was a Siddeeqah [i.e. she believed in the words of Allah and His Books]. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allah does not eat). Look how We make the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth)” [al-Maa’idah 5:75]. ‘Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allah) did command me to say: “Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to all things’” [al-Maa’idah 5:116-117].

k4kenny:
Where do I even start from.... The Prophet(SAW) beheaded 600 Jews in Mecca? How Mecca was inhabited by pagans, no Jews in the region. Any report of the Prophet(saw) beheading any Jew or christian is a pure lie. The lived together peacefully in Madinah after the migration. It's worthy of note though that some Jews attempted to kill the Prophet, so they were sentenced to death. No, they were not up to 600 o.

Prophet Muhammad didn't die from the poisoned meat at khaybar. He lived on for about four years after the incident, even married 3 wives, conquered Mecca from the pagans and went for Hajj all during the period .

The name of the of Jewish lady that gave him the poisoned meat was not Safiyah, That was the name of one of his wives. Where do you people get these lies from . Since the Jews and christians in Madinah lived together with the Muslim immigrants, it was common for the hosts to give gifts to their guests. The Prophet gladly accepted her gift and ate the meat but he didn't die from the poison. He died of natural causes.

Take a dictionary and check the meaning of 'Messiah'. It doesn't mean God, rather it means anointed One destined the Children of Israel. The stories of Jesus in the Qur'an can be found in Surahs 3, 5 and 17.

In conclusion, check the gender beside my profile, 'tani bro e'

I think he has been brainwashed in his church to think MESSIAH is a title that can only belong to God, hence is claim that Jesus is divine from the Qur'anic point of view.

AgentNairaland:
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1. You haven't answer the question, WHY DOES Allah fails to call or refer Muhammad as MESSIAH??

2. Which Scripture again Allah gave to Eesa? Hope Not Quran

Lol.
(1)The fact that Allah referred Jesus as Al-Maseeh "the chosen one" to lead his people as a prophet does not mean that He is compelled to give such title to Muhammad.So your claim that "WHY DOES Allah fails to call or refer Muhammad as MESSIAH??" is BASELESS.
(2)You should know the scripture since you claim you read the whole Qur'aan.lol...The scripture given to Jesus was injeel(the gospel).This is a further proof that Jesus, just like Muhammad is a prophet and Messenger of God who was given the revelation to guide "ONLY" the "lost sheep of Israel". That reminds me of why one should pity Christians as Jesus was not sent to them but "only the lost sheep of israel" as claimed in the corrupted bible.

3) Your foolish claim that the Qur'aan says Jesus was sent to the world at large while Muhammad was only sent to the cities of Makkah and Madinah.
This statement only proved:
1)You are a big liar as this is contrary to what is in the Noble Qur'aan
2)It is either you were lying when you claimed you read the whole Qur'aan or that you actually read it without understanding.

So I ask, where is your proof of your ridiculous claim above because I have obvious proofs here to nail you down!!!

AgentNairaland:
Sorry which ONE is LIE that I shown you?? Or are you telling me that Quran and Hadith are lying in the following :-

When the angels said: “O
Mary! Allah gives you the good
news of a Word from Him, whose
name is the Messiah, Jesus son of
Mary, who is illustrious in this
world and the hereafter, and who
is one of those brought near [to
Allah]. (3.45)

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

Sahih Bukhari 5:59:713


[Quran 2:125] We have rendered the shrine (the Kaba) a focal
point for the people, and a safe sanctuary. You may use
Abraham's shrine as a prayer house. We commissioned
Abraham and Ismail: "You shall purify My house for those who
visit, those who live there, and those who bow and prostrate."


And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that
which We reveal unto thee , then question those who
read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the
Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. Surah Yunus [10:94]

Please point out the one that I lied and you'll tell if I am the author of Quran and hadith respectively

(1) Your impression and claim(in ur prev.post) that "it was a shame that Muhammad was mentioned 4 times" as opposed to Jesus mentioned 25 times as a proof of Jesus divinity and superiority over Muhammad(S.a.w) is a blatant lie.Arch enemies of Allah, Satan and Pharaoh was mentioned more than 25 times in the Noble Qur'aan.Does that proof their superiority over jesus? You can see that only dumb people who are ignorant and desperate will make this outragesous claim to prove their nonsense claims.That is so laughable
(2) Your claim that Jesus was refer to as the Messiah which proved his divinity is also a big lie.Yes Eesa was referred to as the Messiah.The Arabic word used is Al-masih which refer to as the "the chosen one" .So the Qur'aan refer him as the chosen one because he was chosen among his people as "a prophet" to guide the people of Israel.So where do we have that impression or even the claim of his divinity from the use of this word?? Moreover, the Qur'aan clearly states that “He [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘Verily, I am a
slave of Allaah, He has given me the
Scripture and made me a Prophet’”
[Maryam 19:30].

AgentNairaland:
The point is that why does Allah failed to referred Prophet Muhammad as your MESSIAH from the whole Quran??

I have read through Quran from Front cover to back cover NO where Muhammad was called as your MESSIAH... Another Shame Quran gave to Muhammad is that his name appeared Just FOUR times compared to the name of Jesus that appeared in 24 Times...

If truly All the texts in Quran are Allah's words why did he failed to recognize Muhammad more than Jesus Son of Mary rather than Allah calling Jesus as your SAVIOUR (MESSIAH) neglecting Muhammad pbuh


This is to show you the real truth/proof from the Quran that Jesus is God, the MESSIAH.. Mind you, Quran even said Jesus was sent to world at large not Muhammad that only passed through Mecca and Medinat all in Saudi Arabia

Don't let one Alfa, Sheikh or Imam deceive you, get your facts and face the truth.. If a whole Prophet Muhammad pbuh was poisoned, don't you think something is wrong with him (Late prophet Muhammad) pbuh somewhere??

I actually don't have your time because I was initially trying to read good beneficial stuffs here before I stumbled on your ridiculous lies here.I hesitate at first to reply as I know it is literally a wasting of time dealing with ignorants and liars like you from the people of paul.However,to try to give some clarifications, I will shortly refute some of your ridiculous claims in my subsequent posts.

k4kenny:
How was it propounded by the Jews? Please provide scriptural proof? The Jews, like Muslims, believe in 1 God and think the concept of the trinity is ridiculous. Some even call it paganism. I can provide youtube links of Rabbis explaining such.

How can Jesus be God and not know the last day?

How can Satan try to deceive Jesus on a mountain, a god?

Lazarus has been dead for 4 days, Jesus had no knowledge of it till he was told, then he wept God wept . Please go to your bible and read what Jesus said to the people after Lazarus was brought back to life by the will of HIS LORD.

Jesus mentioned in multiple places in the bible that he was sent. By who?

We have no problems being identified as the slaves of Allah, the Greatest, Creator of the Heavens and earth, the Ever-living.

Jesus saying he and his father are 1 doesn't make him God. There's a difference between saying 'we are one' and 'we are the same'. Saying we are one means we're united in purpose e.g the song with the lyrics: we are family, we are one' Would we then conclude the the composer is saying we are the same?


Jesus prayed with his face to the ground, like a slave to his master. He never saw himself as an equal to Almighty God. Go read the book by ex Christian scholar Bart Ehrman 'How Jesus became God'. Humand made Jesus a god.

Baarakallahu feekum Akhee!!! May Allah continue to enrich you in knowledge and understanding.And we ask Allah to guide the truth seekers among the disbeleivers so they could embrace the light of Islam, the only true religion, before its too late!!!

k4kenny:
How was it propounded by the Jews? Please provide scriptural proof? The Jews, like Muslims, believe in 1 God and think the concept of the trinity is ridiculous. Some even call it paganism. I can provide youtube links of Rabbis explaining such.

How can Jesus be God and not know the last day?

How can Satan try to deceive Jesus on a mountain, a god?

Lazarus has been dead for 4 days, Jesus had no knowledge of it till he was told, then he wept God wept . Please go to your bible and read what Jesus said to the people after Lazarus was brought back to life by the will of HIS LORD.

Jesus mentioned in multiple places in the bible that he was sent. By who?

We have no problems being identified as the slaves of Allah, the Greatest, Creator of the Heavens and earth, the Ever-living.

Jesus saying he and his father are 1 doesn't make him God. There's a difference between saying 'we are one' and 'we are the same'. Saying we are one means we're united in purpose e.g the song with the lyrics: we are family, we are one' Would we then conclude the the composer is saying we are the same?


Jesus prayed with his face to the ground, like a slave to his master. He never saw himself as an equal to Almighty God. Go read the book by ex Christian scholar Bart Ehrman 'How Jesus became God'. Humand made Jesus a god.

Baarakallahu feekum Akhee!!! May Allah continue to enrich you in knowledge and understanding.And we ask Allah to guide the truth seekers among the disbeleivers so they could embrace the light of Islam, the only true religion, before its too late!!!

k4kenny:
How was it propounded by the Jews? Please provide scriptural proof? The Jews, like Muslims, believe in 1 God and think the concept of the trinity is ridiculous. Some even call it paganism. I can provide youtube links of Rabbis explaining such.

How can Jesus be God and not know the last day?

How can Satan try to deceive Jesus on a mountain, a god?

Lazarus has been dead for 4 days, Jesus had no knowledge of it till he was told, then he wept God wept . Please go to your bible and read what Jesus said to the people after Lazarus was brought back to life by the will of HIS LORD.

Jesus mentioned in multiple places in the bible that he was sent. By who?

We have no problems being identified as the slaves of Allah, the Greatest, Creator of the Heavens and earth, the Ever-living.

Jesus saying he and his father are 1 doesn't make him God. There's a difference between saying 'we are one' and 'we are the same'. Saying we are one means we're united in purpose e.g the song with the lyrics: we are family, we are one' Would we then conclude the the composer is saying we are the same?


Jesus prayed with his face to the ground, like a slave to his master. He never saw himself as an equal to Almighty God. Go read the book by ex Christian scholar Bart Ehrman 'How Jesus became God'. Humand made Jesus a god.

Baarakallahu feekum Akhee!!! May Allah continue to enrich you in knowledge and understanding.And we ask Allah to guide the truth seekers among the disbeleivers so they could embrace the light of Islam, the only true religion, before its too late!!!

AgentNairaland:
1. You said JEWS like Museums... Do you remember how Muhammad beheaded over 600 Jews And Christians living in Mecca, Tell me how come Jews will like Muslims..

Let me tell another thing you don't know...

Prophet Muhammad PBUH was poisoned by A Jewish lady called Safiyat

This is the HADETH

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

Sahih Bukhari 5:59:713

2. You said Jesus Christ is NOT God, Even the Glorious Quran call Him As MESSIAH... Hope you knw that Only GOD is the MESSIAH

When the angels said: “O
Mary! Allah gives you the good
news of a Word from Him, whose
name is the Messiah, Jesus son of
Mary, who is illustrious in this
world and the hereafter, and who
is one of those brought near [to
Allah]. (3.45)

In Conclusion, Bro don't be confused, all what I shown you here are in glorious quran and hadith resp

AgentNairaland:
1. You said JEWS like Museums... Do you remember how Muhammad beheaded over 600 Jews And Christians living in Mecca, Tell me how come Jews will like Muslims..

Let me tell another thing you don't know...

Prophet Muhammad PBUH was poisoned by A Jewish lady called Safiyat

This is the HADETH

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

Sahih Bukhari 5:59:713

2. You said Jesus Christ is NOT God, Even the Glorious Quran call Him As MESSIAH... Hope you knw that Only GOD is the MESSIAH

When the angels said: “O
Mary! Allah gives you the good
news of a Word from Him, whose
name is the Messiah, Jesus son of
Mary, who is illustrious in this
world and the hereafter, and who
is one of those brought near [to
Allah]. (3.45)

In Conclusion, Bro don't be confused, all what I shown you here are in glorious quran and hadith resp

AgentNairaland:
1. You said JEWS like Museums... Do you remember how Muhammad beheaded over 600 Jews And Christians living in Mecca, Tell me how come Jews will like Muslims..

Let me tell another thing you don't know...

Prophet Muhammad PBUH was poisoned by A Jewish lady called Safiyat

This is the HADETH

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

Sahih Bukhari 5:59:713

2. You said Jesus Christ is NOT God, Even the Glorious Quran call Him As MESSIAH... Hope you knw that Only GOD is the MESSIAH

When the angels said: “O

Mary! Allah gives you the good
news of a Word from Him, whose
name is the Messiah, Jesus son of
Mary, who is illustrious in this
world and the hereafter, and who
is one of those brought near [to
Allah]. (3.45)

In Conclusion, Bro don't be confused, all what I shown you here are in glorious quran and hadith resp

It is funny how christians try to justify the divinity of Christ through the Noble Qur'aan, despite ample proofs from surah Maryam and other chapters that he was a mere Servant of Allah sent as a prophet to the Jews of his time.The fact that he was called a Messiah, should not be a proof of divinity but a testament that he was indeed sent just like other prophets to save the people from path to destruction and lead them to the way of God.

AgentNairaland:
Common, You Can't Use "WE" As Respect.. "We" is a plural word, in Youruba it's "AWA" . Just tell us from the verse I shown you, it's clearly stated therein that Allah is the one spoken from the verse. So therefore, is Allah more than ONE?


Until, when he comes to Us, he says, “Oh,
would that there had been between me and
you the distance of the two
easts !” (Quran 43:38 ) Allah uses "Us" again

What some ignorant people like you fail to realize is that a plural can also be used in the form of respect.I have seen people even from the Yoruba tribe do the same. So there is no doubt about the fact that Allah is only One God.When He uses the plural pronoun, it is intended as a form of respect.

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maryjames9:
China is the smartest country in the world. Religion is the bane of the society. Christianity has lots of issues (brainwashing, sectional ism, monetization of the religion by Pastorpreneurs and lots more. Islam is worse ( terrorism,killing o infidels in the name of god, war,... I stand with abolishing and facing out of Religion from earth because it is a threat to human existence. The notion of reality of fiction of heaven or hell has not and will not solve the world problem.

That's ridiculous of you!!! well I'm not dissapointed in Atheist like you cos you do not beleif in the hereafter.

ZKOSOSO:
Jesus Christ has no business with Islam and it's killing and rapist prophet Mohammad.

Always make comparison with Hindu, shinto, voodoo and buddism! These are even more Humane religion than jihadi Islam!

Islam is the religion of lions in the jungle with all other animals!

That is because you are an idiot....look,I'v read d Bible and the glorious Qur'aan and came to realize the latter is far more superior to the bible...to talk of Rape,check out Deuteronomy where God(jesus) ask the israelite warriors to rape the citizen girls..talk of written pornography,refer to song of solomon,talk of terrorism,yes refer to Num31:7,17-18, Deu20:16...Did u say Islam is inhumane religion...Infact,check this out again(1Sam25:2-4) where even SUCKLING INFANTS,ANIMALS andWOMEN( that even our probade to kill during his defensive battles) were killed.