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Yonce:
But still Messi has played with a better set of team mates than Ronaldo.

It's on this same thread we hear things about how most Barca players are far superior to their Real Madrid counterparts, now it suits you you're twisting the arguement to mean something else

Abeg. . . .stick to one train of thought

as if you have ever seen any real madrid fan or typical epl fan boi agree that barca have ever been superior to real madrid. or that the same iniesta and xavi are better than other midfielders. you guys have never agreed so what agree now?

DarkRebel69:
Well, anyone with a view unsullied by the cataracts of prejudice can very well see that.

It's quite obvious though, that valid soccer pundits, true-blue football fans, and those given to the aestherically alluring aspect of football make up the whooping percentage of Messi's fanbase. On the otherhand, CR7's fanbase is mostly thronged by a coterie of dumb blondes, a mish-mash of Man.United fans who still cling wistfully to his erstwhile heroics at the Old Trafford, disgruntled Chelsea fans still smarting from the afterburn of Iniesta's last-minute sabotage, and Real Madrid fans who are OBLIGATED to pledge allegiance to CR7, not because they truly believe he is superior, but because they MUST believe and convince themselves that he is superior because he plays for their club.

As someone once said, if Messi didn't play for Barça, Real Madrid fans would have no scruple in acclaiming him as the GOAT.

and one more thing. 97 percent of ronaldo fans are high heeled.

Yonce:
No all is not fair in this case. You seem to have lost the basis of this arguement. . . .so you think everything counts.

It doesn't.

just cross check again. I didn't lose focus. the point is that there has never been a gulf in class between messi's and ronaldos teams. for goodness sake Ronaldo didn't play for no getafe or West ham. he played for Manchester United and real Madrid. 2 teams who have been bigger than barcelona at some points over the past 2 decades. having ballon dor inmates, sorry team mates are just very little details. and you can put that in perspective with the ballon dor winning coaches I talked about earlier. a zidane or a guardiola doing better than a mourinho at some point. fuuuck there have been countless debates about lampard being better than iniesta on this forum. lampard never won a world cup or an European player of the year but the argument persists.

Yonce:
Tf are you saying?!

Messi won the Balon with a rookie coach. . . . I'm just pointing out that Ororo did too so that's technically not a highlight.

And if Zidane is subpar, what did Benitez do with the same players Zidane works with?

if nihilst could say that messi excelled becos he played with ballon dor winners and ronaldo didnt then why couldn't I bring in ballon dor winning coaches in the same context? all is fair in this case bro.

Yonce:
Zidane is like the rookiest coach ever. . . .just so tou know

yes shit happens every now and then. but zidane ain't no fergie or mourinho.

seriously you can't play with real madrid or manchester United of the late nineties and early 2000s and still have any excuse. these 2 clubs were the biggest and richest at that point in time, buying superstars the world over. best coaches best goal keepers.

Nihilist:
Typical barkabot behaviour. They will never admit that their mans success at Barka is in no small part due to stellar array of talent playing alongside him at Barka.

Remove him from Barka settings and na back to back to back flop for Argentina.

Until you win Balon Dor playing next to Darren Fletcher and Wes Brown, Eder and Jose Fonte, I don't wanna know.

If Ororo was playing with Xavi Iniesta Dinho etc, they woyld have renamed the trophy to Ororo D'or by now

guardiola was a rookie when he coached messi. if messi had been ttutored by a fergie or a mourinho trust me he'd have 10 ballon dors today.

Nihilist:
I did not ask for Who Ronaldo has played with.

I asked for Who Messi has played with. Or are you Barkabots dyslexic as well.

Help with with the number of World Cup winners and podium finalists Messi has played with or go back to bed.

Nihilist:
Dipsett I'm still waiting o.

I know the list is pretty long and will take a while to compile but please hurry up.

Nihilist:
I did not ask for Who Ronaldo has played with.

I asked for Who Messi has played with. Or are you Barkabots dyslexic as well.

Help with with the number of World Cup winners and podium finalists Messi has played with or go back to bed.

lol. initially you were mentioning drenthe, adebayo, wes brown. then after hitting you with a lot of super super super stars your boy played with next thing you said was, name the ballon dor winners and world cup winners ronaldo ever played with. then after naming about 5 world cup winners and 1 ballon dor winner, you are again asking for a tabulated format and probably a graph showing who messi has played with and who ronaldo has played with. do you want me to plot messi on the x axis and ronaldo on the y axis? or do I do it vice versa?

Nihilist:
Just look at your self.

Point out one Balon Dor and WPOTY podium finalist from that Ororo list.

Point out the number of World Cup and Euro winners in that list.

Point out anytime in Ororo's career when he has played with a Balon Dor winner in his team.

Bros go and sleep. You have literally Zero point.

Nihilist:
Simple question.

List the number of Balon Dor and Wpoty podium finalists Messi has played with

Then do the same for Ororo.

List the number of World Cup and Euro winners Messi has played witb, and do the same for Ororo.

List the number of Fifpro or UEFA TOTY finalists both players have played with.

Then come here and make your point.

I'll wait.

Nihilist:
Just look at your self.

Point out one Balon Dor and WPOTY podium finalist from that Ororo list.

Point out the number of World Cup and Euro winners in that list.

Point out anytime in Ororo's career when he has played with a Balon Dor winner in his team.

Bros go and sleep. You have literally Zero point.

ozil alonso khedira ramos casillas world cup winners. kaka wpoty. if i may add mourinho and fergie are ballon dor winning coaches.

Nihilist:
Context though.

Before Messi's 30th he was playing with Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Igwe, Deco, Etoo, Neymar, Suarez, Alves, etc

Before Ororo's 30th he was playing with Wes Brown, Darren Fletcher, John Oshea, Royston Drenthe and Emanueal Adebayor.

Context is key.

drenthe? lol. he was actually playing with tevez, scholes, giggs, rooney, evra, ferdinand, vidic, nani. then at another point in time with alonso, ozil, de maria, pepe, ramos, marclelo, khedira. all these while under the tutueleges of the great sir Alex Ferguson and the great Jose mourinho. he also had 2 of the best goalies watching his back casillas and van de sar.

DarkRebel69:
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wow! it's so clear who's been the leader and who's been the guy playing catch up.

jonsnow92:
WE DONT WANT HERRERA

WE DONT NEED HERRERA


HE'S NOT NEEDED


HE'S NOT WANTED


DONT BELIEVE EVERY THING YOU READ AND DONT LINK HIM TO BARCA AGAIN!!..HABA

lol. first paulinho, then herrera. soon we'd be linked with fellaini or emre can.

usbcable:
dipp
You and I know how this always starts.

The basic problem of a barca fan is because of the fact that not everyone (especially a Real fan) agrees with your hero worship of Messi.

That singular fact makes you guys go bunkers.

Peace of mind will always come to your fan base the day they realise that not everyone will agree to the asslicking habit of messi.

Such posts still abound from you guys till today.

there's always a flip side bro.

jonsnow92:
If Valverde moves Messi to the midfield at 30 then the contract he signed was actually a death warrant.

lol. messi should be moved to midfield when he's 40.

homesteady:
I've not really watched him play, but then he won Man United player of the season even when he has the likes Pogba around! That means he must be doing something good!

Valverde was his coach, so maybe he sees something special in him!

it's gonna be him or busi right?

jonsnow92:
Him moving to midfield at 30 is the beginning of Madness..Messi needs to be in devastating positions where he can cause damage..Any reasonable coach would build the team round him even if he's 37..All we need is an exceptionally Brilliant Midfield..Leave the Rest to Messi!.

now that's what i am talking about.

homesteady:
There has been reports that Messi would officially move to the midfield next year, which automatically means we need a right winger! That's why we are also courting Dembele! So if he comes, he would not really be a bench warmer!
Do you really want Deulofeu to be a starter in important games?

seriously messi in midfield doesn't appeal to me at all. it's better he's left at his left side with a free role. are we going to waste a potential 40 goals a season boy in midfield? i'd keep the 4_3_3 with msn up front and add a verrati to the mix.

usbcable:
Common man.

You sure are new here.

The reverse has always been the case.

When Real Madrid wins a trophy
Your co-barkabots start denigrating the cup and shouting how lofty theirs is.

When CR achieves something and we celebrate him all your likes think of is to abuse him endlessly to the extent of claiming same accolades that messi once won has no more value just because CR has won it.

Its an inferiority complex thing.

lol usb. inferiority complex? are you kidding me or what?

anytime i hear about this man I think of jollof rice. abeg which country has the best jollof rice again?

kinggogo:
Forget it, Epl is highly overrated

Thats what most neutrals anticipated before the start of last season but my oh my were we all dissapointed.

Chelssh!t won it so easily as if they were playing against npfl teams.

abi. expectations were very high last season. it turned out to be a stroll in the park for chelsea.

Segadem:
Man u is spending Chelsea is buying, man city is splashing cash on players and arsenal is looking, it will take special grace for them to make top six next season

instead of solidifying their midfield and defence they are pursuing lacazatte with 50 million. nonsense arsenal.

Ehiscotch:
For the first time ever, FFK attacks the message & not the messenger. Such cowardice.

that's because the messenger is a hater of Buhari like himself.

mars123:
Because he gave power freely, he is now weak?

The truth is, you can never please the north once they want that power. Its a lesson he learnt the hard way.

To that effect, we say we are tired of this disrespectful unitary system of government where one region because of its majority, wants to always dictate the tune the rest of us will dance to.

Agitation upon agitations will always arise unless everybody goes back home to his village. No need delaying the inevitable.

you can never please the north? nnamdi kanu made that statement. is he now a northerner? do you see northerners in your nightmares?

man u would be thick next season. honestly the epl would be explosive next season. it's goina be fire works.

homesteady:
Man united about to buy Matic, it seems like Herrera's position is at risk! Would Valverde still go after him?........

wetin we wan do with herrera abeg?

the problem with ronaldo fan boys is their own insecurity. lol. they had thought that after ronaldo 'coached' his team in the final and portugal won euro 2016 the world would fall at his feet and call him the best ever. lol. their pain is that even after euro 2016 their boy still doesn't come into the GOAT discuss. I wonder if messi had won copa america. he would have already been declared the undisputed GOAT. like I said before the easiest search is google search. there is not a single google search which puts ronaldo ahead of mess in a GOAT discuss. as far as messi versus ronaldo goes, ronaldo fans just should learn to carress their L forever. second place isn't such a terrible thing.

Yonce:
But hey. . . . . At the end of the day, we all remember the captains who so gloriously lifted up the trophy in front of millions of adoring fans. We don't remember those who shot penalties into the stratosphere despite their individual stats.

All these amazing players you mentioned, they've lead their national teams to glory and guess what?! none has ever so callously quit football just because things don't go their way.

Face it homeboy. . . . .he hasn't raised an international trophy with his national team. We'll see if he does.

See ya

no probs! at the end of the day we all remember what we want to remember. even without an 'international trophy' (since u insist on chalking off his olympic gold), at least 50% of the world fans still see him as top 3 greatest of all time. trust me his fans don't need him lifting an international trophy in order to sleep well at night.

Yonce:
Oh i have absolutely no problem with Messi. . . . . .he's an amazing player.

It's just that most people here cannot see beyond their nose when it comes to him and tend to belittle other amazing players that do not apply to their "visual modalities" and unnecessarily hate them when they threaten "Messi"

Him flopping for Argentina is just a way to remind Messi cum lickers that he is not all that

messi's individual stats for argentina are second to none! people often say messi is surrounded by superstars. let's take 2 of them. aguero the epl wizard and then demaria. what have these 2 contributed to argentina?

another thanksgiving again? rivers state has witnessed the highest number if thanksgiving since the 2015 elections and it has witnessed the highest level of blood letting. let them continue.

Yonce:
All this for one man?!!!! Wow! I'm mind blown


But er, how many international trophies has he brought home for Argentina?

oh! it's no longer 'he flops for argentina' , it's now 'how many trophies has he brought home'. hmn. just to point out to you 'no man brings an international trophy home', a national team does that. looking at what messi has achieved individually in the blue and white stripes of argentina I challenge you to name one player who achieved better stats individually for his national team; name just one! not zidane, not ronaldo de lima, not ronaldinho, despite winning the world cup. fuuuck not cristiano ronaldo. and despite all that winning the olympic gold and the junior world cup isn't what I would call flopping. except you want to convince me that they are not international competitions.

Theflash98:
And messi shouldnt be thankful to them also?..for providing him assist and him feeding on their glory?

he has more goals than them. not just that; he has more assists than them and he has more chances created than them. so pls tell us, who should thank who?

ipob miscreants and wailing wailers loving sahara reporters (apc media) right now. now they are so proud of sowore.