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senorova:
so much abominations on this thread!
Oponunaldo better than Leo?

With no iota of bias, I think the world seeks to keep a rivalry between messi and oponunaldo, probably not to get bored by a single player dominating the ballon d'or charts.

people claim oponunaldo is hardworking, relentless, bla bla... messi is just talented... Horse shit! Talented players like ozil, quaresma, Ben arfa, and co...where are they today? Talent without hardwork can never result to extraordinariness!

Messi is just talented but not hardworking? spits!!! Messi has been Barca's highest goal scorer since 2008 till date every season bar 2015/2016 when Suarez beat him to it. He played alongside super talents like Henry, villa, Neymar, ibrahimovic, Eto'o, Suarez o... and still outscored, outperformed them all. Why would any sane person think messi doesn't put as much work on the pitch as oponunaldo?

Talking about talents, and overall pitch performance... some people say oponunaldo turned up when it most mattered... spits!!! Take oponunaldo from real Madrid.... they would still be real Madrid. Take messi from barca, barca would be arsenal!!! He has always been the difference between good and great, barca was a good team with the likes of xavi and co...but messi was and is still the defining mojo. How many times has messi had to save Barca's ass this season, and before? How many times as he ripped the heart of the best defenses? He fails to do it against juve (after creating 3 clearcut chances for iniesta and Suarez in the first leg), and the world says he didn't turn up when he was supposed to... such insolence!

Oponunaldo no doubt deserves the ballon d'or (based on media sentiments though, and due to UCL victory). His hardwork, persistence, and relentlessness to keep up with messi perhaps blinds the football world as to who is the greatest between he and messi. Perhaps the world sympathizes with him, and decides to give him credit for not giving up in his pursuit of messi....

For persons who say oponunaldo started as a dribbler, dribbling and team influence isn't the same! Messi just coordinates Barca's game, especially in the final third... and he even does it from the middle of the pitch. I can bet me balls, messi would create assist as a goal keeper. You see his vision and pass accuracy, and wonder if Zeus himself was on the pitch. In a honesty, the only thing I know oponunaldo does well is to score goals. If football was all about goals, then it would suffice that all players were strikers!

Oponunaldo's quest for matching messi is actually commendable, because he only has tried to come close...but unfortunately, he is still centuries away.
Maybe the world sees his quest and appreciates it by saying he's the greatest... but in our hearts of hearts, and at the end of time...we do know that football will always be defined by messi. Not maradona, or Pele, or Oponunaldo... but messi

bros e just tire me o. like say make I faint. we don't know them personally but from what we have seen and heard I could give a million reasons why messi is a better human than proudnaldo.

Diademk07:
You dey mind him..

Believe me, if Messi had faced much vitriol like Cristiano faced, he wouldn't come out of it. And it's not like Messi is a better human being than him. In fact, from what I've seen, Ronaldo is a better human than Messi yet faced so much hate because he looks arrogant on the pitch regardless of whatever he does outside of the pitch.

Yet he rose above all the hates while Messi has always been cuddled by the media regardless of what he does. Let's not forget the fact that he's never had the pressure of being world record breaking 80mil man nor ever changed his environment and he once had the best spanish team behind him until things went south after Xavi retired.

No one is saying Messi isn't talented, of course he is, maybe more than Cristiano but he's always had it easy and it's no just one style ingrained on a rock, it's all about preference!

humans are actually made up of the seen and the unseen very correct. from what we have seen Messi is a much better human being. sexual assault case, tax cases, multiple red cards, refusing to celebrate team goals unless he scores, getting angry when bale, abeloa and team mates score goals without passing, beefs with baby mamas, saying his team mates both at madrid and at portugal are not on his level, etc etc etc, so numerous examples. seriously from what we have seen messi is a better human being. Nor talk that tin again.

Diademk07:
Lmao..

Messi bowed out of the CL because he was rubbish in decisive matches, all his padding in the group stages mean nothing if he can't do it when it matters most.

And nope, it's not by dribbling into the midfield. Left to me, I think he's disrupting the shape in the team by having to constantly drop into the midfield while leaving his wing open to the opposition to attack. It's even stupid to think it's because he couldn't get the ball on the wing when the team is all about the front trio. The truth is his off the ball movement is quite rubbish and that's why he has to always be in the centre...

BTW, dribbling in non-threatening areas is rubbish. Hence, let me point to you that goals isn't Cristiano strength but his off the ball movement which attest to his intelligence, that can't be said of Messi! Kapish!

Ronaldo got into the champions league final because the referee made at least 5 blunders. Ronaldo scored at least 2 clearly offside goals and another 2 goals when the opposition was down to 10 men. Bayern should have been in that final not madrid, let us never forget that.

obainojazz:
So kids, Pay your taxes and be a good ambassador of your family.

Messi won 4 champions league trophies ronaldo just caught up. Messi won 5 ballon dors ronaldo is about to catch up. Messi got convicted for tax fraud Ronaldo would soon catch up. Its he who always does the catching up on Messi. The investigators are on his case. Soon, real soon.

usbcable:
I noticed a particular footballer is missing while the unexpected one is included

you know very well that that particular footballer deserves to be here with 11 goals. but if neymar has taken his rightful place no wahala. It's one love between them.

Sensual:
*getting my mouth ready*

Quote me, and get d*ck cancer

most parents would never know their daughters could say a thing like this. especially when seated in the couch at night with their lovely and 'innocent' daughters watching nta network news or super story.

Sahara reporters are all over dino melaye like a rash.

I am sure if nor be small shame sef him wife for contest. Moral of the story. In life don't die. If you for you're fuucckked.

snrman:
like I said I can relate.When it was 4-1 I remember reading here that messi is a FIFA son bla bla bla.But that does not take anything from Ronaldo for trying harder to close the gap although he is a cry baby. I remember when it was 4-1 and he(Ronaldo) told Perez that why does he not get the support that messi has in barca. I have stopped comparing messi and Ronaldo because the title shifts between them yearly my new attention now is between hazard and neymar although its an insult to neyboi

lol. hazard versus neymar is your new bride abi?

Yonce:
I don't know why imbeciles like you keep bringing their age difference into the picture.

Everyone achieves his/her destiny at different times. Some face obstacles that only make their story more relatable. Who the fùck are you to taunt him for riding his success wave like a boss despite time and age being against him.
Grow the hell up you swine. . . . .Ororo has proved age is nothing, absolutely nothing but a number.

He will age like fine wine from the South of France and keep the red hot peppers coming so your leaking ànus can keep bleeding.

it's not really about the age but it's the number of matches played. That's the salient point. And naturally we would expect the age to be directly proportional to the number of matches played. It's appropriate to consider the number of games played and i am sure you would concur. It would be a big disservice to Messi to tell us Ronaldo is better than him because he has scored 35 more goals despite messi having played about 150 games less. PS. I do not insult people on nairaland any longer.

snrman:
lol Yh I can relate u and I both know that 5-5 won't make them equal but u just have to admit that Ronaldo had a better year than messi which is not messi fault because he drops to midfield. You should rather blame our midfielder Cus if u noticed once they have the ball they pass straight to messi..

You might be new here but come on this is nairaland every boy troll here doesn't make their opinion count the rest are trolls we have only 1 Madrid fan here which is krasid the rest are Ronaldo fan boys or Chelsea fans

lol. Trust me iam not new here. I've been on a ban for 3 months now. 2 more to go. This is just my 'alter ego' lol. The real me would come back after the ban. I agree Ronaldo had a more successful season. But I was only responding to the part where you said the potential 5-5 makes them equal. I needed to remind you that even when Ronaldo had a lone ballon dor and Messi had 4, and I repeat 4, all these Ronaldo worshippers here still argued on their lives that Ronaldo was far better than Messi.

I just need Bellerin, one big quality CB and two workaholic and skilful midfielders to bolster the squad. 4 signings for me are ok. Then ship out Mascherano, Turan, Mathieu and Gomez. I seriously do not believe the hype of madrid. There isn't a gulf in class. We thumped them in the classicos. We lost games in the league we never should and still finished 3 points behind madrid on the very last day with malaga defenders ducking shots for Ronaldo to score. In hand sight considering poor and biased refereeing barca would have won the league cus they benefited from the referees' mistakes much much more than we did. Some journalist did an article to prove that recently. Also against bayern munich the world witnessed the worst and most biased refereeing over a 2 legged tie ever in the champions league. Over 6 major decisions went again bayern alone. Truth be told madrid should never have made it to Cardiff. The referees made it happen. Point is that there isn't a gulf in class between madrid and barca. On our part we played the worst game in our history against juve at turin. Too bad it happened that way. 7 times out of 10 we will beat juve.

snrman:
For the past 4pages its been argument messi or ronaldo
Wtf Ronaldo will win ballon dor next year making it 5-5 which means they are equal.No barca fan should argue here please this yr is Madrid's year just as we had ours in pep era.We should just focus on how to get beta

wtf are you talking about? No barca fan should argue! 5-5 makes them equal? Fuucck even when it was 4 ballon dors to just 1, these same people swore that Ronaldo was a million times better than Messi. I repeat even at 4 - 1!

Yonce:
I was going to dignify you with a long reply to this load of bullcrap you typed but then you're too much of an ignoramus to understand the basis of this arguement.

So enjoy your rants dude. I've got a trophy to celebrate. . . . . Keep composing epistles on the owner of your soul.

Lord Ororo will keep the steady supply of pepper to set your anùs on fire.

no way that's gonna happen. For 8 years Ronaldo has been playing catch up to his younger brother. What Ronaldo has achieved today messi achieved at age 27 and less. 4th champions league title, 5th ballon dor your Lord and personal savior has apparently finally caught up. No I wouldn't deny you your trophy celebration. Not after 8 years of playing catch up. I ain't that cruel.

kushercain:
That's because Ronaldo's career kicked off before messi's. the point is he has more goals than Leo in leagues, champions league and even on the international scene

that's why you don't have to compare 2 players who didn't start a race at the same time. The only way to do that is by taking a mean or you could call it average. And I learnt a lot of that in my statistics classes. Since they didn't start their careers together, just take the number of goals scored and divide by the number of games played; actually it's called a goal to game ratio. With over 150 more games played your boy has got only 35 goals more. The difference is clear as Crystal.

Yonce:
And I repeat, shut that àss in your face you call a mouth. Only undiluted shìt spews from it. . . . . . . .what is the aim of football?


To play for 90 minutes, create chances and not score goals?

Do chances win you trophies? Write your name in history books? Tell me, what the fùck is the aim of 22 grown àss men pursuing a leather ball for 90 minutes if all they have to show is chances created?

If he's specialty is scoring goals then we'll appreciate him for that and many other things he does to the beautiful game that you refuse to acknowledge.

But truly, he's the king of the pepper them gang

that's what he's trying to say to you, why football is sometimes so fuucckked up. You can become a tap in specialist, lurk around the 6 yard box for 70 minutes, score a tap in or two and break records and make history. For real football fans who watch the games for 90 minutes chance creators are as vital as goal scorers and should make history too. For 8 years the real madrid squad have been slaves to ronaldo. Even Gareth bale would have his head on a chop board for attempting a shot on goal and not pass to ronaldo. He's been living off the hard works of marcelo, kroos, modric and co. I just look at poor benzema. On paper zidane puts him as the top man, the number 9 but on the pitch he gets his space invaded and he becomes a midfielder. Over the past 8 years messi has been in thw top 3 midfielders and has been the best striker. Who can beat that?

kushercain:
Ronaldo shiits on messi in goal stats. Ur Messiah only has the upper hand when it comes to assists
Take correction

600 goals and 195 assists in 855 games is better than 565 goals and 231 assists in only 700 games?? Bro what are they smoking at your end?

bykebyke:
See am.

Enemy of Progress..

Us going after Dembele means next season we could see Leo playing as a false #9 under Valverde at one point.Dembele/Ney are unmatched in 1v1 keeping width and interplay,like Villa and Pedro.

It's certain that we are going to get a RB..but Dembele gives us additional variety of things to try.

We didn't have that vs Juventus this season or vs Atletico Madrid last season.

abeg which dembele? Moussa or osmanne?

BoleAndFish:
Who has the highest assist in champions leagues?

why are you isolating the champions league? Am talking about everything, all competitions together.

randomperson:
When Messi scored 91 goals, he was still very involved in chance creation. He was still taking on players but Ronaldo's only specialty is scoring goals. That's the difference but you're probably too slow to understand that

that included a record 50 league goals. I'd love to see Ronaldo attempt that. Ronaldo is supposed to be the greatest striker known to mankind but still has an inferior strike rate to messi, still has less assists, still has less trophies. Where is the comparison really coming from?

It's so imbecilic for anyone to actually think that the match which 'made Ronaldo greater' than Messi is the same one in which he faked an injury after 20 minutes. What we've got on our hands today is a 32 year old who has been playing catch up to a 30 year old for the past 8 years!