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SeraphicWind:
God bless you all

Thank you very much. Appreciate the thought .

May you all be alive to have the Mysteries of heavens portal opened to you in the mighty name of Jesus the Christ. Amen.

And may reason guide you, even as your deity remains AWOL.

I can understand you all though.

You read minds too? Do you also have a crystal ball ?

It is the spirits inside you people tormenting you people.

Not as bad as the flaws and contradictions tormenting your religion.

Science calls it "Human Consciousness".
We call it "Spirits".

Science calls it "evidence-based reality" -- you call it "some stuff I made up".

May you all experience heavenly portals and the presence of God's angels before you die.

I'll take a hard pass on the hallucinations, thanks. I prefer reality.

If not, straight to hellfire.

Oh noes! I'm shaking in my boots !

Oh wait, that's right, hell is just another tall tale you have no evidence for, lmao.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you really know the meaning of that word "ISOLATION" ?

If you don't know the meaning of the word "ISOLATION", then avail yourself of a reputable dictionary, and don't be asking me johnny-just-come questions, lmao.

Because i have millions of people that i can relate with as fellow worshipers who lives both near and far not like you who is PROTESTING claiming she wants to be alone.

Smh, can you see why I said, you should quickly grab a dictionary lmao, because "isolation" doesn't quite mean what you think it does. It's not by surrounding yourself with trillions of people, but about disconnecting yourself from reason and evidence, which is why I noted that you've isolated yourself from reality. Don't you see it yet, Maximus? You obviously don't care about critical thinking, logical reasoning, the scientific method, etc etc. It's funny though that you take pride in the fact that millions share your faith and beliefs, as is your right. You can be happy all you want, won't make you right though. Millions of people can be wrong all at the same time, lol, and it has happened many times throughout history. So, if you like, keep surrounding yourself with illusions. Na you sabi. At the end of the day, your view doesn't correspond with reality, and just because numbers seem to be on your side, doesn't make it any more valid.

For instance can you boldly say in the public that you are The Devils Bride?

Where I reside, it's no biggie. Won't cost me a thing, lol. Nonetheless, conformity is not the virtue you think it is, my dear. It's just the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt, and honestly I'd rather go against the grain, than become unquestioning sheep. My atheism isn't something I've ever been ashamed of, as it's simply a conclusion based on the lack of empirical evidence for the existence of deities.

Of course you can't that's why you hide what you are outside only for you to come to Nairaland looking for people to chat with because atheism doesn't promote any conventional thought so you people are here seeking the attention of believers expecting to find someone to share your feelings with as you are always bored anywhere else with your isolated mindset!

Thankfully, in the social context I find myself, I need not worry about social approval, as the vast majority of my neighbors aren't unthinking, judgemental theocrats like you, who manipulate people and threaten them with ostracizing and witch-hunting, simply because they reject your infantile beliefs. Besides, the internet is already a form of public space. Afterall, am I not, right now, engaging with you, and potentially countless others, under the very sobriquet you deem so scandalous, huh? So my dear, the cat, or perhaps the imp, is already out of the bag, lol. Except for some odd reason, you believe this conversation is happening in some hermetically sealed off, digital bubble, totally and completely impervious to the prying eyes of the general public. If that is what you think, then you've not only wandered into the realm of delusion, you're completely lost inside with no way out, and I'm unfortunately ill-equipped to provide the therapy you so desperately need, lol.

Dtruthspeaker:
You always break them. And when you are told you have broken one or two, you make it worse by lying that you did not, like you are doing right now, covering it up by twisting and putting your opponent on the defensive (of which rules of logic state prevent twisting and reversals of burdens of proof) but you must always break them and reverse it when you see you are cornered into defeat.

So you always break the Laws of logic and many have accused you of this.

Then it's a simple issue, nau, lmao. Present your evidence that I "always break the laws of logic". Cite just one instance of it, give us name of the fallacy I committed, and demonstrate how it applies to the instance you cite. For me, I can cite hundreds of instances where you've defaulted in logical discourse, so if you claim I'm guilty, then giving instances should not be a difficult ask, is it? Show us the receipts, my friend. Talk is cheap .

MaxInDHouse:
Fruit is not whether you admit that what you're reading is true or false rather the fruit is a person who has yielded to wise counsel. As for reaching out to people it's a one on one thing not just listening to your radio or attending seminars {Malachi 3:16} that's why atheists are trying to speak with people but they don't know how to go about it since they are not sent by anyone unlike Christians sent to do so! Matthew 28:19-20

What's really going on here is that, you're just simply too scared, to take the bold step, out of your comfort zone, and bubblegum feel-good delusions, to practice some self-reflection and, to see how convenient it is that your acclaimed "fruits", are nothing but a product of your peculiar brand of religiosity, lmao. Who d'you suppose you're kidding here, by the way, talking about fostering genuine, and meaningful relationships, or building community, when we all know your ulterior motives, are simply to brainwash, indoctrinate, proselytize, guilt-trip, and blackmail people emotionally, all in a bid to coerce and force them into brand of religion? I trust, of course, that you'll struggle to see the problem here, but I'll forge ahead anyway.

Now, pen this down in your notes: you see, genuine dialogue and community building require a certain degree of mutual respect, openness, and willingness to listen, and absorb whatever you're selling. But as we have come to observe, over the years, from you and your religionist compadres, the concept of mutual respect is often lost on you. You don't see the people you're engaging with as equals, nope. You instead view them with condescension and pity, and mere targets for your trite proselytizing. By justifying your "one-on-one outreach" on biblical grounds, it inadvertently exposes your thinly veiled attempts at wilfully manipulating others into the adoption of your beliefs, by any means necessary. Besides, let's keep it a buck here, your Bible cannot even be classified as a manual for effective community building, or even outreach sef, because the socio-cultural prejudices and biases embedded within it, is as bright as 9am in the morning outside, lmao. You're all just garden-variety evangelists, dressing yourselves up in cheap veneers of biblical respectability .

That's what each and everyone will like to do but then it's impossible to make any meaningful impact when you're not reasoning one on one with your neighbour who will ask you thought provoking questions like i'm doing now that proves you're not doing anything.

Smh, not my fault, that you're too blissfully holed up within the prison you've created and called a "mind", to consider that perhaps, just perhaps, the most meaningful impacts are those that occur quietly, unassumingly, and without the need for divine validation. I don't need to go door-to-door, like a town crier, ringing doors incessantly like a nuisance, to reason "one-on-one" with my neighbors, and make a positive impact. Whatever I choose to do is strictly according to my own whims and caprices. I can volunteer at any community clean-up initiatives, local kitchens, neighborhood gyms, or better yet, simply be a good friend and listener to those around me. Best of all, I can achieve all of this without ever once invoking, the name of a deity or relying on the promise of heavenly rewards. As for your inane pièce de résistance, that atheists are somehow incapable of effectively reaching out to people, because they lack the divine imprimatur of being "sent" by your imaginary higher power, shows the chutzpah on you, to act and pretend as though the entirety of human progress, from scientific discovery to social justice, hasn't been driven by the tireless efforts of individuals who didn't require a divine permission slip to make a positive impact.

We are not ignoring anything rather we are working on those who avail themselves to know what God has in stock for peace lovers since each of you feel like doing things your own way and we are commanded never to force anyone! Matthew 10:16

I'm sorry, but what's with the "each of you feel like doing things your own way" business? You trying to take a cheap dig at people who don't care to listen to your waffle? We don't impose our beliefs on others, or claim that our way is the best. However, we do have a zero-tolerance policy for unfounded nonsense, and the wilful peddlers of said nonsense, and we will call out these "nonsenses", however and whenever we wish to. So keep preaching to your choir, it's none of ma bidness, but for the sake of your mental health, and so that you won't get your knickers in a twist whenever I unsheath my sword, don't expect any of us to be impressed with your selective reading, and cherry-picking of scripture, or your dubious, transparent claims of not forcing anyone to adopt your particular brand of faith.

Things happens for a reason so if you're not aware of the reason you may end up thinking that what happened yesterday must continue even when there is an ongoing exercise to end it. Psalms 46:9

Does this supposed divine initiative involve your blatantly dishonest habit of cherry-picking those biblical passages that support your pacifist stance, while ignoring the rest, hmmm? I personally, think there's a far more plausible reason, more plausible than your trite " mysterious ways" clause lmao, in that the biblical narrative is, quite simply, a product of human culture, and is sufficiently riddled with countless contradictions, reflecting the moral ambiguities of the time in which the texts, were written.

Abeg this your Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden how many people has he helped to stop hating their neighbours as in uprooting the cause of hatred in their hearts?

I promise you, Max, when you can demonstrate the relevance of this infantile query, you keep trotting out like a scratched and broken record, to the fact that you've just undermined your entire argument by committing a logical fallacy, then I'll finally put you out of your misery and indulge it, lmao.

You people just like following white people claiming you have woken up from some kind of slumber yet it's still these white men who are directing how you should think. Just imagine i'm talking about what people around you are doing to end hatred you are quoting some white man who don't even know what is making people to kill people!

^^^I hope readers can begin to observe how religionists trip over their own shoelaces whenever they try to castigate non-believers and skeptics. I wonder why, religionists like Maximus, can't help themselves, and cease their pointless whataboutisms if they can't even abide by basic, common sense principles of discourse, lmao.

Why not, let's take a closer look at Maximus' warped sense of reasoning, hmmm?
> He's attacking the perceived ethnicity of the professor I quoted, instead of just sticking to the point made, a classic diversionary tactic born out of desperation, as the validity of my point is not dependent on the skin color or ethnicity of any scholar/s I deem fit to cite.
> He's implying that just because the philosophers are white, their ideas must be inherently flawed or irrelevant.
> He's misrepresenting my position by implying that I'm blindly following white people, when I'm actually just relying on established philosophical concepts and logical principles over time, which transcend ethnicity.

Need I say more ?

That's exactly the same way i often view JWs before i became one of them but now i know better there is no religion or school of thought that's helping mankind to think out of the box of politics except Jehovah's Witnesses. If it's only Jehovah's Witnesses that are living on this planet the earth will be a Paradise that's an indisputable fact!

Okay. So? What's your point, hmmm? You expect me to be impressed, that you drank the kool-aid, and wilfully joined a cult that outrightly discourages critical thinking and intellectual curiosity? One can't help but envision your so-called "paradise", lol, where millions of people have been mistreated and traumatized, at the hands of insensitive JW policies, like for instance, disfellowshipping, prohibiting blood transfusions even in life-threatening situations, countless scores of child abuse cases with alleged cover-ups and inadequate reporting to authorities, discrimination, marginalization, exclusion etc etc. Smh, what a paradise indeed.

Actually you never ascertain a single thing all you are doing is PROTESTING your username says it all "The Devil's Bride" meaning you just want to claim nobody can advise or counsel you after all you're betrothed to the devil himself and you're proud of it.

Curiously, your failed attempt at psychoanalysis didn't seem to register the glaring tongue-in-cheek reference, to the absurdity of the notion, that I'm in league with some fictional entity. As a matter of fact, I chose this specific ID for the exact purpose of poking fun at noobs like you, who subscribe to that ridiculous notion of devil worship !

So my dear you're just protesting there's nothing more.

Who's protesting? Not me! I just refuse to pay intellectual tithe to a nonexistent deity.

I have told you before but since you forgot i will do it again!...

Oh joy. Another installment of divine excuse making, coming right up, lol.

...After Adam and Eve God allowed humans to do things themselves for centuries before introducing Himself to Abraham and promised to establish Paradise through this man. But by then the whole world were worshiping demons who were using them as scapegoats to claim Gods in different geographical locations therefore the only way to prove a God greater than the other is the strength of the armies of such a God that's why God allowed His worshipers to engage pagan nations in wars and whenever they are doing what He says no Nation can conquer them no matter the size of such army.

That's a rather limited imagination for a supposedly infinite deity, lol. So you're basically arguing that the all-powerful creator of the universe was forced, against his will perhaps, to play by the primitive rules of ancient warfare? No wahala. But what is the justification? Do you suggest that the local polytheists couldn't have understood a more sophisticated demonstration of divine power from a being who allegedly parted seas, and rained fire from the heavens, huh? He ran out of ideas and couldn't come up with a more compelling presentation, than petty tribal piss fights?

Wait sef, let's even look at the timeline of your proposal here, lmao. For many centuries, your God has been allowing humans exercise their free will, the one allegedly bestowed unto them by him, no less. Said free will let humans into demon worship. Then all of a sudden, snap!, out of nowhere comes Jehovah God, who let's just say, may have snoozed off, albeit for a very long time after watching his favorite soap, lol. Suddenly, he re-enters the picture, and decides the only solution is bloodshed, huh?

Oh well, at any rate, you've inadvertently explained why there are so many religions, lmao. Basically, and as a corollary to your story, and the point made therein, it's safe to surmise that the reason so many religions exist is because they're all simply the winners of ancient military campaigns writing their victory speeches. Ironically, I believe history even lends credence to this conclusion, lol. So once again, while I strongly reject your beliefs, I will commend you for the honesty to admit, perhaps unwittingly, that the dominance of your faith isn't rooted in divine truth, but rather in the earthly principle of "might makes right".

Do you get it now?

Sure. It's just spiritual politics .

Naaaaaaaaah it's a battle that your fellow atheists reading needs to see how the PHYCOLOGICAL WAR ends so don't tire out let me see how strong your brain is in defending Atheism the school of thought that promotes isolation!

As far as I can see, you're the one promoting isolation from reality, not me .

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the one who breaks all laws of logic and reason at all costs.

I've never broken any laws of logic. In fact, I readily uphold them, unlike you, who has clearly filed a restraining order against all forms and manifestations of intelligence .

MaxInDHouse:
What a pity

...a pity, indeed, that so far, your argument can bear no fruits .

How many Buddhists or humanists are going to meet people in their homes to convince them on the reason why they should possess these qualities?

Someone, it seems, has never heard of secular counseling or community outreach programs. He's also, completely in the dark, for some odd reason, about the revolutionary concept of compassionate human connection that doesn't require any spurious divine franchise. Is there anything, our friend Maximus here, actually knows about life outside the confines of his religious bubble, hmmm?

Ọmọ there's a difference between claiming something and WORKING to achieve it. That's faith in action contrary to what you atheists assume about faith!

Well, I don't claim a moral high ground, however, I actually and humbly work towards it, without any need for a divine permission slip, or any promise of heavenly brownie points, lol.

FRUIT is what we enjoy and sow part of it to multiply, each Christian must continue preaching and teaching people in his or her neighbourhood to become peace loving so if any religion is not doing the same they can't bear the same FRUIT!

It's pretty convenient that you conflate the metaphorical "FRUIT!" of your faith with the very real consequences of human actions we face everyday, while at the same time, ignoring the glaring absence of a control group to test your funny claims, lol.

Funny enough true Christians must not harm anyone! Matthew 5:43-48; 10:16; Luke 6:27-28

...and you're still playing whack-a-mole, cherry-picking only those scriptures that support your pacifist stance, and still not addressing the plethora of passages that condone violence, genocide, slavery, bloodlust etc etc, acting as if they don't exist. The way you keep running in circles, repeating yourself, I just hope you don't dizzy yourself too much, and pass out from disorientation, lmao.

So say something else because when you see people carrying weapons to kill their neighbours they are not true Christians but Satan's agents planted as weed to confuse people like you! Matthew 13:25

Why you sounding like you getting worked up, lmao? Anyway, I didn't want to go down this route initially as I suspected, and still suspect, that you clearly have troubles, with comprehending basic cues and elements of logic. But at any rate, I'm only going to cite this here for readers that might care to know, that you've been committing a logical fallacy known as the No True Scotsman fallacy.

No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one modifies a prior claim in response to a counterexample by asserting the counterexample is excluded by definition.[1][2][3] Rather than admitting error or providing evidence to disprove the counterexample, the original claim is changed by using a non-substantive modifier such as "true", "pure", "genuine", "authentic", "real", or other similar terms.[4][2]

Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an "ad hoc rescue" of a refuted generalization attempt.[1] The following is a simplified rendition of the fallacy:[5]

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

I only take comfort in the knowledge that being a JW yourself, most other Christians consider you a heretic and infidel. So you're pretty much hellbound, in their book, lmao

Such killers are Satan's agents planted to confuse people like you not intelligent people like me. Once anyone carries weapons to support a fight such a person is not a Christian! Matthew 26:52

As usual, you'll always look for a fall guy to absolve your tribe of any responsibility for the atrocities committed in the name of your Lord. Nothing new to see here.

Jesus will surely order his heavenly armies to slaughter enemies of his peaceful people so things will not always be like this but we must remain peaceful to prove we are following his orders when the time comes angels will do their work not humans fighting and killing one another!

I see the logic here, outsourcing the dirty work to divine hitmen, while you reap the rewards of moral superiority, lmao.

Funny atheist!

Your cognitive dissonance is the real comedy routine here, I must confess, lol.

So to you faithful people were fighting and killing their own fellow worshipers back then shey?

Absolutely, you're very damn right, they were, wiith a fervor that would make a serial killer look like an amateur enthusiast, lmao.

Why is it that you atheists don't just want to ascertain things instead you just assume you know it all?

As a matter of fact, "ascertaining things" is precisely what led me away from the fairy tales you're still clutching at, so desperately. Take you own advice sometime, and "ascertain things" for yourself, lmao. You'd be surprised what happens to your mind when you apply critical thinking instead of theological Stockholm syndrome.

Even when God allows His worshipers to fight it's not about religion but the place where pure worship is established that Satan wants to pollute. So it's not just fighting and killing as you assume.

I truly mean no offense here, but this isn't even a coherent sentence, let alone a viable explanation to present as justification, for the endless trail of violence and bloodshed that, as evidenced by history, follows in the wake of exercising blind faith. Perhaps you can explain to us why your God needs to allow his worshippers to fight any battles in the first place? Is he incapable of resolving issues without recourse to needless violence?

No weapon carrier fighting in support of any leader is a Christian that's the truth so your so called history is based on biased protest against the truth!

You know, I feel a soft spot for you at times, reading your robotic responses, lol. Your naivete would actually be charming if it weren't so monumentally dangerous.

MaxInDHouse:
When you plant a tree {John 15:1} surely there must be a specific FRUIT you expect to reap nah! Galatians 5:22-23

Smh, you just had to cite a Bible verse, and trot out the most generic list of virtues, lmao. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control can all be found also, in Buddhist monasteries and humanist community centers, lol.

So the fruit of true means adherents will be peace loving worshipers this doesn't say they will be perfect but you will notice the nine qualities of the fruit of God's Holy Spirit permeating their gathering!

No problemo. Oya, so how then, do you empirically distinguish between the "fruits" of your Holy Spirit and the result of groupthink, mass delusion, confirmation bias, or mere emotional manipulation, hmmm?

How can agreement fuel violence nah?

Who said it does? Please take a good squint around the corner, and read between the lines, as you've woefully missed the point again, lmao. It is, more specifically, the disagreement among various Christian denominations, over whose version of the divine dictator gets to dictate the terms of the agreement, that leads to the violence.

Ma it's disagreement that leads to chaos as disciples of the Prince of Peace once you disagree with us the command from our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus is to walk away peacefully! Matthew 10:11-13 compare to Proverbs 17:14

Pardon me as I genuflect before the altar of your hypocrisy, whilst I remind you that your Lord's advice to "walk away peacefully" is a luxury not afforded to the countless unbelievers, pagans, heretics, witches, and infidels slaughtered violently in the name of your Prince of Peace throughout history.

So i wonder how that could ever lead to violence o!

Subtlety isn't your strong suit, I've noticed. Anyways, see above.

We go about searching for friends of peace in every nation {Luke 10:6} so that we can form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Act 1:8; Isaiah 2:4} so how does that mean we treat others as infidels?

For the life of me, I'll never understand why people like you are quick to display outright mendacity, cherry-picking verses that fit your narrative, even as you conveniently handwave, and ignore the ones that instruct you to, for example, kill non-believers (Luke 19:27, 2 Chronicles 15:13). You trying to walk the tightrope, with this selective scripture-surfing, is nothing short of bald-faced duplicity.

You keep amusing me with the highlighted because it's you who refuse to follow the only process given to TEST what we are saying saying you must do it your own way!

Test? Oya, with what abeg? Let me guess: blind faith and "just trust me, bro"? Lmao .

It's faithlessness that's causing wars in all the earth so as a female i know you should be interested in how to curb it not turning against reasonableness just because you want to protest against what you don't understand.

The fact that you submit blindly, and without a mind of your own, to ancient superstitions, is already proof that you wouldn't know what reason was, even if it held you down, and pissed in your face. Maybe you should start by consulting those bloody history books and take your time to notice the rather inconvenient correlation between faith and fanaticism, before you come here spouting nonsense in your ignorance, smh, lmao.

Call it whatever ma there is no other way mankind can cohabit peacefully other than following the teachings of Jesus Christ the Prince of Peace!

Call it whatever you'd like as well, but I'm sure the victims and casualties of the Crusades, Inquisitions, colonial genocides, sectarian wars, and other religiously-motivated conflicts would strongly disagree with your trite pronouncements.

Dtruthspeaker:
Your Madness is becoming permanent for even rails are not in straight lines

Ah, I see. You're a railroad expert too, aren't ya? Figures. Little wonder then, you're so accustomed to taking the scenic route around logic and reason, avoiding them at all costs, lmao .

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaah apart from saying few have been chosen to TEACH others Jesus said we will know the chosen and those deceivers by their FRUITS {Matthew 7:16-18} so while deceivers can't uproot hatred in the hearts of their followers the chosen will completely uproot hatred in the minds of their followers and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers!

Mr. Maximus the "fruit" inspector, how do you tell "fruits" that are entirely indistinguishable from the placebo effect, hmmm? And what do you suppose, is the litmus test for these '"fruits"?

Just as many like you did only to end up fighting and killing their neighbours!

My lack of belief isn't the problem, but rather, your belief that your particular brand of it is the only valid one is what fuels all the violence, rage, and fisticuffs. Please, try to keep up. I thought your Holy Spirit was supposed to inspire wisdom, not witless whataboutism, smh.

If you truly care as a woman please tell me how people throughout the world can cohabit peacefully without WARS!

After you, Maximus. Do tell us, how you plan to "cohabit peacefully" with those who don't share your faith, when your holy book is filled with instructions on how to treat infidels. Go on.

So we must all follow the same process shey? That's just what i've been trying to tell you about how to perceive the presence of God!

And I keep telling you that mathematics and deities aren't interchangeable. You're committing a false equivocation fallacy. One can be tested, the other can't be tested. Perhaps you need me to use crayons to explain this elementary distinction better?

As a female i know that in your right senses you will cherish a world without wars but this protest you so much want to carry out will not allow you to think straight.

Is this your new angle? Gender-based condescension?

He promised to DESTROY those ruining our planet home {Revelations 11:18} but as a just God He must see to it that each of you judges yourselves by your own actions after seeing how His peace loving worshipers who will forever inherit the planet {Psalms 37:7-11, 29} in peace and full security live as a sign of divine warning! Matthew 24:14

You've perfectly made your point about God's bias and selective benevolence clear, so no need to keep re-writing these passive-aggressive sticky notes, lmao.

kingxsamz:
Was it Jesus who helped you count how many times the vehicle somersaulted or did you count it yourself? Just wondering.

Very good question actually, lmao .

Kikikikikiki. Lemme put on my troll cap. Threads like this dey sweet me .

SeraphicWind:
Dear Nairaland Christians, Please take this my advice for your mental, spiritual and physical well being.

Am I seriously reading advice about mental health from a group that has perfected the art of guilt-tripping, hate-mongering, and shaming non-adherents for centuries ?

Stop defending divinity with fools. Stop arguing divinities and spiritual realities with condemned souls.

Fine by me. I hope you equally take your own advice, and don't preach to the "condemned souls" on this forum.

They will drain your spiritual divine energy.

Omo, you go fear accolades, lol. I mean I knew we atheists were badass, but I didn't realize were SO badass, our mere existence has morphed us into supernatural beings with parasitic powers .

Can I give you a secret?

Spill it out already, we're dying to hear, lmao.

There is EXTREME POWER IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS and THE CROSS OF SALVATION.

Perhaps. Magical blood and repurposed torture in tandem, is always a fearsome arsenal against sense and reason, lol.

Multiple times, accidents were projected to me. It was the blood of Jesus on my mouth that saved me.

So the blood of Jesus is now an insurance policy? How low are the premiums?

Oh, nevermind me asking. The deductible has to be your cognitive faculties, obviously.

My car was somersaulting for over 7 times once. I came out unhurt. It was the blood of Jesus that saved me.

Hallelujah!... You ain't giving us enough specifics and details, of the testimony though. Did the blood of Jesus solidify and turn into a seatbelt?

There are dark forces and dark powers. There are principalities. There are dominions too. There are witches, wizard, warlocks, hexers, necromancers and evil spirits. All these are dark realities on this wicked earth.

Smh, look at him, dramatically conjuring up an army of cartoon network villains to justify his crippling credulity.

Don't let anyone deceive you Christian sirs and madams. Only the Blood of Jesus destroys and decimates all these powers decisively.

Sometimes, I'm not sure whether to feel sad, or to just sit back and laugh to tears, whenever I remember that there are people out there, who believe that magical blood sacrifice is the key to overcoming simple life challenges like managing your finances, getting a life partner, securing a steady source of income, maintaining good rapport with your oga and neighbors, or even simply traveling outside the country, smh, lol.

I advise you again. Ignore heathens. The mysteries of the cross are far hidden from them.

You mean they are hidden from those who insist on truth, facts and evidence?

Can I also give you another secret?

What is it this time? Is it how to turn water into wine? Or maybe how to fly?

MANY OF THESE "ATHEISTS and HEATHENS" YOU ARGUE WITH ARE CORRUPT, DARK, NEVER-TO-BE REDEEMED SOULS.

Isn't it wonderful how your deity's love and mercy is supposedly infinite, and yet your own hate, bigotry and intolerance is infinite, in its own way, lmao?

They actually know that what you Christians are saying is the truth. They only want you to stop saying it so that the sons of darkness will cover the earth with iniquity and wickedness.

What you profess is neither truth, nor knowledge. It's simply rank delusion, coupled with paranoia so thick it could block out the sun.

In science, these Revenants are your ANTI-ENERGY. They are on the "other side".

Speaking of energy, what you've just written here is a wave of bullshit, without any particle of sense .

They may even attempt to corrupt your souls or plant the seed of doubt in you.

All this fear-mongering is just making me think of faith as a fragile flower that can't withstand a gentle breeze of reason. Can you still call it "the truth", if you always have to protect it from scrutiny? Real "truth" should be afraid to stare straight into the blizzards of criticism, with confidence, and walk headlong into it, without stumbling.

Use same energy you use to argue with these wild revenants to serve God.

I honestly don't think atheists would mind if Christians just faced their God and stopped rubbing their fragile faith and egos in our faces. Afterall, I'm a big proponent of live and let live. But rest assured, if you keep strutting around near us, trying to challenge us when we're just minding our business, don't cry blue murder, when we actually take you to task, and make you look goofy and dumb as always, lmao.

Glorify God daily, magnify him...

Yada, yada, yada .

I'd say this is actually solid advice overall. Not bad by Christian standards. Unfortunately I believe most Christians here will have a hard time, putting their ego aside, to read your post and listen to your admonitions, lol. They're too busy somewhere defending rape, genocide, slavery or God knows what else, lmao.

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you not know the meaning of a thread means the rails can go in any reasonable direction?

Of course, you'd see it that way, given that you couldn't tow a straight line to save your own life, lol.

MaxInDHouse:
That's where you need enlightenment!

Nah, I'd rather settle for a coherent narrative that doesn't require a divine spin doctor.

If everyone can understand Jesus won't say some should TEACH the rest! Matthew 28:20

Of course, why not? It's very convenient that your epistemic escape hatch will require absolute deference and submission to only authorized translators of divine ambiguity. The wheels on the bus go round and round, and so does your argument, lol.

Where did God tell you that He is omni this omni that?

I didn't need God to tell me, I used my omnifunctional brain, which, unlike your Holy Spirit, doesn't require divine permission to think critically or recognize logical fallacies, to read and understand the concept of God, as described in the Bible.

Good!

Goody!

So you can be yourself without worrying about whatever others do with their lives since you found it absurd to agree with others!

I'm sure your lens is too thick to see the irony here, of accusing me of not caring about others' opinions, while you've been relentlessly quoting scriptures to me, as if the opinions of ancient desert nomads should have any effect on, and/or dictate my own opinions.

There is no process other than counting five and adding extra five so if you decide to choose any other means you'll surely fail!

Counting is literally the "process" I was referring to, you unwitting exemplar of circular reasoning, lmao.

Your protest can't change facts Ma!

You misspelled "assumptions".

If there will be no more wars how do you think people living at the time of this prophecy will know they are fulfilling it?

Presumably, by not engaging in war, duh, lmao.

Ọmọ this will only happen in the midst of those studying God's word with open hearts not the whole world.

What a loving, and benevolent God, whose promise is only valid for a few, select group of obnoxious yes-men, while the rest of humanity gets to suffer (or enjoy, lol) never-ending war and bloodshed.

That's the import of verse 2 of Isaiah chapter 2

Indeed, such selective benevolence.

MaxInDHouse:
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 14:26

“I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
John 16:12-13

He promised that God's Holy Spirit will explain further!

I see. So whenever I'm confronted with logical contradictions in the Bible, I can just simply invoke an imaginary, invisible, unverifiable interpreter whose specialty is in retroactive hermeneutical gymnastics? Got you, lmao.

Well, I suppose the first clarification I'll need from the Holy Spirit, is to give a really damn good reason, explaining why an omniscient, omnipotent deity would require all of these labyrinthine communication methods in the first place.

There are millions of people like Maximus that will tell you exactly the same thing because we all have the same line of thought globally! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

This is, quite ironically, a very solid and remarkable instance of the dangers of mass confirmation bias, as opposed to the universality of truth, lol. I'm sure it's comforting for you to know that you're not alone in your thoughts, just as it is comforting for me to know that I'm not obligated to take the collective opinions of you and your millions of buddies as fact.

A typical atheist for you!
So when a mathematics textbook says "5+5=10" you shouldn't believe or you will follow due process to verify?

If indeed I were to "follow due process to verify," I could still, in fact, verify the equation 5+5=10, and come to the conclusion that is TRUE, and I can easily achieve this through the basic fundamental principles of arithmetic that exist to resolve such issues like these. Unfortunately for you, the same cannot be said for the fantastical claims that are found in your holy text. See this difference yet, bucko? One is testable, falsifiable, and firmly grounded in nature and reality. The other one? Not so much.

Typical atheist for you!

Okay? Any more theological insights you wish to regale me with?

We have true believers throughout the world today who are fulfilling what God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4
It's not assumptions like Atheism!

Interesting choice of scripture there, Isaiah 2:2-4, where your God makes promises about swords being sheathed and taken into plowshares, and nations fighting no more wars... except for the part where this vapid prophecy was severely undercut by every single war in recorded history happening after Isaiah penned those utopian verses, lmao. Sounds like your god just straight up sucks spectacularly at keeping promises .

MaxInDHouse:
I don't like lengthy talks when the point has been made, you question is simple:

How did Jesus' followers found out that the sword wasn't literal?

I don't know your age but if your own dad should say you must be cautious as serpent and harmless as dove {Matthew 10:16} and later said each of his children needs a sword and you have never seen him use a weapon before but the same day he rebooked your own brother who used a sword {Matthew 26:52} will you just assume he is crazy?

Regarding Isaiah 54:17 it simply means your intelligence is far below that of the true Christian because you are trying to convince them to trash their faith which is their most valuable asset.
So no matter what you say it won't work unless you can present the gathering of sane people who are wiser than believers which is impossible!

I'll start by answering your analogy about my dad telling me to be as "cautious as a serpent", yada yada yada...

Now, I wouldn't call him crazy, if I'm being honest. I might, however, simply just call him confusing, and a bit inconsistent as well. Also, I'd need him to explain himself further. What I would definitely NOT do, since I prefer not to make stuff up, is to engage in the kind of mental gymnastics your ilk are very adept at.

And just in case he doubled down, and told me that the only way to understand his instructions was to blindly trust the interpretations of MaxInDHouse and no one else, except maybe a few others, I’d probably suggest to him that he lay off the sacramental wine for a while, lmao.

Faith, in my books, requires no evidence, making it impervious to any and all reasoned arguments. Doesn't mean it should be elevated above scrutiny though. Careful and honest examination of your beliefs could not only save you from intellectual stagnancy, maybe you might stumble onto factual information that proves your beliefs! Who knows? Unfortunately for you, it would appear that critical thinking and intellectual honesty are concepts alien to you, and you wish it to remain that way.

I literally laughed out loud (lol) though, when you dropped the cute little spiel of "gathering of sane people wiser than believers", when we have luminaries of science, philosophy, art and literature like Einstein, Newton etc etc, whose contributions to human knowledge, have demonstrated wisdom far beyond the confines of religious dogma, and even till this day, we enjoy the fruits of their endeavors.

So if you like, keep swinging Isaiah 54:17 in people's faces, like a 4 year old toddler brandishing a plastic sword and declaring himself invincible, smh, lmao. Your faith is nothing but a prison where you've deserted your brain in, and threw away the keys, without even looking.

And abeg, where is this team, abi gathering of believers, that you think are wise beyond all else, hmmm? With all due respect, I just hope you're not referring of the circus acts we have here on this website, that pretend to be apologists, but can't even tell their left from their right, or tie their own shoes lmao. If so, then you've set the bar way too low .

The amount of trolling and cursing on this website is unprecedented. And this is coming from someone who has a 10-years and running account, with the likes of Reddit and 4chan, where I actively contribute. There's lots of nutjobs in those forums, I promise, but the nutjobs here easily take the cake! There's very little intellectual stimulation as most users are impatient and/or seem to have very short attention spans. Lots of wackos on here too with outrageous views, statements and beliefs that realistically, should warrant investigation, lol.

Just kidding about the last bit, but seriously, I agree with Allsmilez999. The forum right now is stark reflection of the rigid, anachronistic, tribalist, corrupt and overly superstitious nature of most Nigerians. Mods don't do their jobs, there's tons of mindless cursing and vulgar language, threads get derailed faster than you can blink. Like you can have three widely different on-going debates on the same thread that ain't even related to the title of said thread, lmao.

Anyway, just my observations. If I were to offer any suggestions,

1> Get better and active mods.
2> Introduce a block feature if possible to weed out the trolls.
3> Introduce a philosophy section, as I'm a class act when it comes to waffling and asking inane questions about life, lol.

Allsmilez999:
NL is a reflection of Nigeria’s dead education system and we are all guilty.

Hundred percent agree.

Dtruthspeaker:
See it! Mad woman is desperately looking for unending talk so that she can find something to use and save her non existent self.

Or last word

You can have the last word girl, since you need it to live and not die. hahahahahahahaha

^^^Ladies and gentlemen, feast your eyes with final bleats of a slaughtered goat, the quintessential sore loser, with an unhealthy penchant for self-aggrandizement and an unrelenting dedication to the art of obfuscation .

You really did try your best, but you ran out of steam pages ago, even though, like a dogged, if not somewhat dim-witted, canine clinging tenaciously to a tattered bone, you completely refused to relinquish your grasp on a lost cause. Your cheap and feeble foray into watery activism against Mr. Olarenwaju to flip the script and make us look like we're the ones supporting him, was just another desperate attempt to deflect attention from your hypocrisy, given that you were defending him from the very start, and as I expected, it was indeed, a risible failure of an attempt, lmao.

And who can forget your bald-faced lie that I "changed posts". After challenged for proof, you bucked under the weight of your emptiness and gave in. It's probably why you conveniently want to give up now, because you've made so many mis-steps, that even you have now realized the true poverty and absurdity of your position, lmao. But all that is in the past. Now that you've finally put your puerile argument to rest in its coffin, I can comfortably kick the sand over it. Once again, permit me to extend my sincerest gratitude to you for this sidesplitting exhibition of desperation, mendacity, shadow-boxing and intellectual bankruptcy, and I take joy in the fact that future readers will stumble across this thread to witness the gradual disentanglement of your argument from all ends, courtesy of your own inept logic .

And on that note, my work here is done.

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You can have the last word girl

...and when I say I'm done, I mean what I say, unlike Dtruthspeaker who has been claiming to let me have the last word for the past two pages, lmao.

P.S I wouldn't be surprised though Dtruthspeaker, if despite your claims of concession, you still returned, like an emotionally distraught child who got bullied at the playground, to clutter this very thread with yet another vapid retort. Your insecurity is palpable, and I can tell that in your own case, the prospect of having the last word, probably with your FayaBall alt, even in a faceless forum, is no doubt, just too enticing for your fragile ego to resist, lol. I can already predict your split personality disorder will soon kick in, and you'll be quoting and replying to yourself below .

Many of the the young women who opt to settle for mendacious, philandering, emotional vampires like the one in the screenshot have been so thoroughly indoctrinated with the notion that their worth is inextricably linked to their ability, or lack of, to secure and maintain romantic relationships with men, no matter how toxic. I blame the society for constantly re-iterating this spurious narrative that leads many a woman down the steep curve of depression at a young age.

Worst of all, is the small-minded men, especially those red pill dolts, who think that their masculinity is somehow tied to their ability to deceive, and manipulate women, smh.

TheDevilsBride:
I already know you will fail woefully, at supporting this baseless charge lmao, because you are wilfully dishonest. But can you point to just 1 instance of me "changing post", throughout our correspondence, hmmm?

Dtruthspeaker:
Change of Post is not so obvious that it needs support?

Clearly you have gone Mad!

Tsk, tsk, did I not predict this ?

The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks. He accuses me of changing my posts, while hurling unrelated accusations at the same time like a drunken darts player, blindfolded, aiming at a board he can't even see.

Out of my benevolence, I still offered him a chance to prove his claims with the very digital map coordinates of my supposed transgression, and what did he do? His accusing tongue vanished! Poof! Gone! Like a fart in a spacesuit. Now he goes back down to wallow at his usual level of trolling and infantile insults because he had nothing worthwhile to present .

Look at you, getting dizzy, spinning around in your own self-crafted fog of confusion, smh. I'm loving this though. You really are good for sports, lmao.

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry Miss/Mrs that's how hard it is to break the faith of a true believer! Isaiah 54:17

Peter the same person who was reproved for using a sword against an enemy is the one who told them to follow Jesus' FOOTSTEPS CLOSELY. 1Peter 2:21

That's the person Jesus told directly to (feed) his sheep {John 21:15} and don't forget that Jesus promised to send Holy Spirit to teach this few men {John 16:12-13} who were given the task to spread Jesus' teachings {Matthew 28:19-20} and the KEY to unravel sacred secrets in his teachings was given to the same Peter {Matthew 16:19} in order to teach others.

Do you remember that it's the same Peter who always stand up among the twelve to defend what Jesus taught them? Act 2:14; 3:6,12; 4:8; 5:29

So it's the same Peter who told us to follow Jesus' FOOTSTEPS CLOSELY {1Peter 2:21} not jumping to conclusion over what he said that we find very difficult to grasp!

Why didn't you quote me directly in this response? Were you hoping you'd slip it past me and I won't read it ?

Now you have insisted, by all means, on trying to shift the focus to Peter's later writings, where he tells his followers to "follow in his [Jesus'] footsteps closely" (1 Peter 2:21). But then again, what is the relevance of this particular information, to the fact that Jesus' disciples clearly misunderstood his metaphorical language?

No one is jumping to conclusions here, my friend. You're the one who seems to be struggling at understanding the import of your own statements. Jesus' teachings are actually not difficult to grasp; it's just snake oil salesmen, who always make things convoluted, for no apparent reason, performing ingenious hermeneutical acrobatics to reconcile the obvious ambiguities that riddle the scriptures.

Abeg wetin dey there, for Isaiah 54:17, that you think is your trump card because it says "no weapon forged against you will prevail"? If you're trying to imply that Jesus' teachings are somehow immune to criticism or scrutiny, then you've failed spectacularly because you will just be admitting that your religion stifles critical thinking and therefore encourages intellectual dishonesty. Are you willing to make this concession?

Nachmonides:
On faith again.
The original Greek text of Hebrews 11:1 is:

"Ἔστιν δὲ πίστις ἐλπιζομένων ὑπόστασις, πραγμάτων ἔλεγχος οὐ βλεπομένων."

Word-by-Word Breakdown:

1. πίστις (pistis) → Faith, trust, belief, conviction


2. ἐλπιζομένων (elpizomenōn) → Things hoped for, expected


3. ὑπόστασις (hypostasis) → Substance, foundation, assurance, confidence


4. πραγμάτων (pragmatōn) → Matters, things, realities


5. ἔλεγχος (elegchos) → Evidence, proof, conviction


6. οὐ βλεπομένων (ou blepomenōn) → Not seen, unseen



Literal Translation:

"Now faith is the substance (or assurance) of things hoped for, the evidence (or conviction) of things not seen."


If you're to be honest or take yourself to be a man of reason, you can't read that and say it is arbitrary belief without reason.


This definition of faith does not mean blind belief without reason but rather a deep trust in something not yet visible. It suggests that faith is an active confidence, not mere wishful thinking.

We must ask, why should one have confidence in something? — that means there's a past action, a premise that demands it. Then we should ask after, what is the past action and how can we prove it is true, using the methods available to us, scientifically.

I'll leave this here:
A scientist has faith in a black hole’s existence based on gravitational effects, even if they can’t see it directly.

A Christian has faith in God based on historical accounts, changed lives, and logical reasoning, even without physically seeing Him.

Interesting conversation here, I must say. I'm not really chanced with enough time, to contribute at the moment, even though I have lots to say. I've left open tabs though, so will definitely be dropping by to contribute in the near future.

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the one who lost everything and has nothing to save because you have already been caught changing post. Meaning you could not answer the issue.

I already know you will fail woefully, at supporting this baseless charge lmao, because you are wilfully dishonest. But can you point to just 1 instance of me "changing post", throughout our correspondence, hmmm? See how I keep sending lifeboats to rescue you, giving you infinite opportunities to redeem yourself and prove my argument is lost, but you refuse to rise above your sunken ship, smh. Notice how everyone else ignores you, because they've grown accustomed to your constant prejudiced, uninformed waffling. I only engage you, partly because I enjoy pointing out your absurd fallacies, lol.

So now, you are talking rubbish and repeating yourself like mad person.

Then why, oh why, Dtruthspeaker are you still struggling, having a hard time, staying on topic, and adequately debunking my rubbish na, lol ?

FayaBall:
See other people's statements, straight to the point.

Again, your incompetence at keeping up with long detailed responses is not my kettle of fish, lol.

You obviously think arguments are won by noise making, long long talk and beating your opponents with tiresome and empty long talk.

Nope. Arguments are won by thorough, detailed presentation of facts and truths, without any logical fallacies, and backed by evidence to dispel any cacophonous ramblings to the contrary from intellectually dishonest people like your type. If we are to go by this criteria, then yes, I've won this argument long ago .

Judging from our exchanges so far, you're only projecting your reasoning on to me, as you've just been distracting yourself from the bitter reality by trying and failing to derail the conversation with ad hominems, non-sequiturs etc etc, between you and your main ID, lmao.

You sound like a mad bitter woman o.

What can a threatened puppy with no teeth do when he's been backed into a corner? Of course he has no choice but to bark. Doesn't change the fact that he's toothless, lol.

I won't even bother insulting you back. My arguments speak for themselves and so no need to recourse to childish personal insults that have nothing to do with the argument. No matter how harsh my criticisms sound to you, you'll keep hearing them, as they're nothing but the truth, lol. So you can keep having your meltdown, while I logically discombobulate any more trite arguments as you put them forward. Deal with it.

@ the bolded you dey fear me so tay I don become thetruthspeaker

It is no secret, lol, your many monikers that abound on this forum, as they all share the same unique writing style and level of reasoning, lmao. But sure, keep trying to deflect. I'm just here to watch you meltdown until your self-implosion, which seems like it's started already.

By the way, no amount of laughing emojis you use will drown out the stench of your defeat on this topic .

FayaBall:
Madam hen, you talk too much ha! Full of empty nothings.

Psychological projection is nasty work, lol. Is this not you ?

FayaBall:
Cluck, cluck, cluck...

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Dtruthspeaker:
See Prostittutes screaming rape, yet na dem dey beg uncle make e kon fvck dem make dem use rape take threaten am make dem enslave am thief e property and off hin life!

Even with all these laws wey dem know dem never arrest or prosecute their over mature customers.

Olosho won eat cake and have am and still put am for fridge. Olè prostitutte

I hope you know you are derailing your own thread ?

But then again, self-awareness doesn't seem to be your forte.

Dtruthspeaker:
See Prostittutes screaming rape, yet na dem dey beg uncle make e kon fvck dem make dem use rape take threaten am make dem enslave am thief e property and off hin life!

Even with all these laws wey dem know dem never arrest or prosecute their over mature customers.

Olosho won eat cake and have am and still put am for fridge. Olè prostitutte

!

Look what the cat, our rape apologist, dragged in, and is brandishing as a puerile defense for his inane and weird proclivities to sexual indulgence with minors, smh. Don't worry, you'll soon be caught out and paraded like a thief, caught with his hands stuck in the cookie jar, lmao.

Dtruthspeaker:
Thus, for now as far as I can see statutory rape only avails

1) Virgins below the ages of 13 according to the Criminal Code.

2) Children in nursery and primary school.

3) Children, no matter the age whose parents or guardians are capable of defiling.

4) Insane Persons.

5) Drunks# (it may protect them)

So, for the sake of those depraved minds or those who have understanding issues, let me state here that statutory rape means an irrebuttable presumption of rape has taken place and even if the parties had consensual sex and the accused gives irrebuttable evidence showing that the "protected" consented and participated in the sex, IN THE EYES OF THE LAW IT IS STILL A RAPE.

And the accused immediately stands guilty as a rapist.

That is the meaning of statutory rape.

https://www.nairaland.com/8332802/statutory-rape-only-protects-virgins#133982068

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Is our bold-faced rape apologist not aware that statutory rape laws apply to anyone who engages in sexual intercourse with an individual below the age of consent, and that the laws are entirely unconcerned and unbothered about trite, arbitrary distinctions like: "Virgins below the ages of 13 according to the Criminal Code", "Children in nursery and primary school", "Insane Persons", "Drunks" etc etc, hmmm?

Our armchair legal practitioner and rape apologist would be doing himself plenty favors by re-familiarizing himself with the Child Rights Act 2003 wherein Section 31 of the Act in particular, deals specifically with Unlawful Sexual Intercourse>>>

(1) No person shall have sexual intercourse with a child.

(2) A person who contravenes the provision of Subsection (1) of this section commits an offence of rape and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for life.

(3) Where a person is charged with an offence under this section, it is immaterial that ‐

(a) The offender believed the person to be of or above the age of eighteen years; or

(b) The sexual intercourse was with the consent of the child.

^^^special emphasis on Subsection 3, lmao.

cc: Nnamdipapa, ChiefOkporghe, Atk1nson

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Dtruthspeaker:
Yet you have not yet arrested the men who fvcked you here in Nigeria when you were in secondary school.

^^^Defeated rape apologist desperately wishing I was molested, to make a point that's not even related to his DOA thread .

Smh, lmfao at you here in my room, watching you desperately trying to save face. You know you just got caught slipping, trying to pass the buck as you are wont to do, and blame the girl for Mr. Olarenwaju's perverse actions. But now that I've bursted your wayo wayo rape apologist arse citing Section 31 Subsection 3 of the Child Rights Act 2003, suddenly it's too inconvenient for you to talk about it .

Has anyone noticed yet how Dtruthspeaker intentionally quotemines people's responses, taking singular statements and words out of context, and retrofitting them to sell his dubious narratives? We're just getting started here, as I and Dtruthspeaker both know our many little secrets, that he will soon be pulling more inane rabbits out from inside his dusty tattered hat, trying to deflect and run away from valid criticisms and scrutiny of his position, lol.

Dtruthspeaker:
See Change of post.

Unfortunately for you, nothing changed here, except perhaps your ludicrous attempt to sidestep the law and justify the unjustifiable. Whatever actions I, or any one else on this thread deem necessary to take, is ultimately irrelevant to the discussion we're having, of the legality of the situation.

hebi she claimed she cannot find Mr Olanrewaju, now that I have answered she has run away from that issue and changed post to abuse and shifting the post to the Laws of rape stated on another thread.

You tried running to another thread to peddle your falsehoods. I simply introduced them here as they are relevant to the topic we were having. You were probably hoping I wouldn't notice your sleight of hand, didn't you, lol? Quite hilarious though, that you've suddenly become an active crusader of justice overnight, after watching me expose your lies and hypocrisies relentlessly, without pause. Now you want to take action? I'm not your stepanfetchit that you can give orders, my dear, so come of it. Suddenly you want to be practical in a theoretical discussion, after trying and failing to defend a rapist. How's the view from up there on your high horse of hypocrisy?

So, clearly she has nothing to say regarding the issue of arresting Olanrewaju after her very very stupid excuse

You can keep hiding behind your cheap veil of semantics, twisting people's words out of context, because you're too cowardly to confront the ugliness that your apologetics enable. Your reputation as a moral agent, is already in the mud. It changes nothing .

I can already see his alternate moniker viewing. Oga will soon start liking his posts and replying himself. Kikikikiki.

Dtruthspeaker:
See stupid excuses.

The profundity of this infantile retort is only outmatched by the vastness of your shocking legal illiteracy as a self-acclaimed practitioner of law.

People trying to hide like Kuje prison break escapees and Boko haram members are being caught is it now a person walking about freely?

Non-sequitur. Making the motion to seek him out and get him arrested won't change the fact that you have already deemed it necessary to argue spuriously in his defense on this very thread. You really have no more points to make, do you?

You are all just plain stupid carrying your oyibo stupidity and madness to come and operate here.

Touchy, touchy, aren't we, hmmm ?

The fragile ego of a rape apologist, shattered to a million pieces by mere logic and appeal to decency !

Look what the cat, our rape apologist, dragged in, and is brandishing as a puerile defense for his inane and weird proclivities to sexual indulgence with minors, smh. Don't worry, you'll soon be caught out and paraded like a thief, caught with his hands stuck in the cookie jar, lmao.

Dtruthspeaker:
Thus, for now as far as I can see statutory rape only avails

1) Virgins below the ages of 13 according to the Criminal Code.

2) Children in nursery and primary school.

3) Children, no matter the age whose parents or guardians are capable of defiling.

4) Insane Persons.

5) Drunks# (it may protect them)

So, for the sake of those depraved minds or those who have understanding issues, let me state here that statutory rape means an irrebuttable presumption of rape has taken place and even if the parties had consensual sex and the accused gives irrebuttable evidence showing that the "protected" consented and participated in the sex, IN THE EYES OF THE LAW IT IS STILL A RAPE.

And the accused immediately stands guilty as a rapist.

That is the meaning of statutory rape.

https://www.nairaland.com/8332802/statutory-rape-only-protects-virgins#133982068

============================

Is our bold-faced rape apologist not aware that statutory rape laws apply to anyone who engages in sexual intercourse with an individual below the age of consent, and that the laws are entirely unconcerned and unbothered about trite, arbitrary distinctions like: "Virgins below the ages of 13 according to the Criminal Code", "Children in nursery and primary school", "Insane Persons", "Drunks" etc etc, hmmm?

Our armchair legal practitioner and rape apologist would be doing himself plenty favors by re-familiarizing himself with the Child Rights Act 2003 wherein Section 31 of the Act in particular, deals specifically with Unlawful Sexual Intercourse>>>

(1) No person shall have sexual intercourse with a child.

(2) A person who contravenes the provision of Subsection (1) of this section commits an offence of rape and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for life.

(3) Where a person is charged with an offence under this section, it is immaterial that ‐

(a) The offender believed the person to be of or above the age of eighteen years; or

(b) The sexual intercourse was with the consent of the child.

^^^special emphasis on Subsection 3, lmao.

cc: Nnamdipapa, ChiefOkporghe, Atk1nson

Nnamdipapa:
I was a fellow student and he was my teacher, how the hell do I get him arrested when I was in SS1 myself.

Once again, what kind of a lawyer are you? Did you attend a night school?

How does any of your question invalidate the fact that an adult in a position of trust abused his authority and raped a minor entrusted under his care?

I tire o, Nnamdipapa, lmao.

1> Since when did pointing out the systemic failures that allow tragedies, such as the one grimly recounted in your OP unfold, merit the term "rubbish"?

2> Can the shameless rape apologist and woman hater on a rampage thoroughly explain the reasoning behind his logic, that the absence of immediate legal action somehow invalidates the very real, very tragic consequences of this situation, hmmm?

3> Is it not baffling that our rape apologist lacks the self-awareness to realize that it is precisely because of individuals who share his oddly fatuous mentality, that it is difficult in this period of time, to have Mr. Olarenwaju and his ilk, arrested and prosecuted?

.