₦airaland Forum

From frying pan to fire. May we not go back to worship the structure of criminality we once condemned. They said Tinubu is corrupt, meanwhile they are running to Atiku, nobi juju be dat?

Kobojunkie:
Legal system? Did you read the story at all? For all we know, the man was pardoned for his crime— the story says nothing of the court's finding him not guilty of the crime —so, how does that prove he was not guilty? The statement is according to him — the man accused of rape — he was set free, not that he was cleared of the charges by a court that found him not guilty. 🥱🥱🥱

And so why was he crying? For an offence he committed? Use your psychology, Oga. Also read the context. This is what happens often. The Nigerian Justice System does not have proper restitution for wrongly accused people unlike other jurisdictions. Just pray you are not wrongly accused for an offence you never committed. The headline and story gives a context. Stoty says cleared of rape charge, not pardoned. Do you clear someone of an offence truly committed? He was even the one that shared the story himself.

What's the meaning of custody?

Zocalite:
Are you a member

Who told you the folks you mentioned don't do it

You think it's ordinary to be collecting money daily or weekly from people on the name of praying for them

You know how many people the guy talked to before his charm got those clients

Organize your thoughts better so that I can get what you are saying. Who are the folks you are referring to? Yahoo boys or herbalists?

BigYash:
Definitely the Yahoo plus gang. Which oyibo wan use clear eyes send such money . I don't blive

Stop all these nonsense. There is nothing like Yahoo plus. These are the kinds of comments some young guys read and start thinking of rituals because they think it's real. If rituals are real why can't the herbalists or alfas or prophets first do it for themselves? These high end scams succeed basically as a function of meeting a gullible victim and that's a function of luck and not any plus.

Everybody is testifying to Tinubus support in the past. Who did Obi support? Now going round to grant #10m each to schools of Nurses when he wants to contest presidency. Selfish politician

But truly Wike no dey chop alone. Even as gov he foot the bill of PDP when Atiku relocated to Dubai. That's why he became a bone in their throat.

How many children does Atiku have so that we know how many first children Nigeria will have to support? Also, how many wives - probably 4 First ladies loading? Even Buhari with one wife had it tough ruling Nigeria not to talk of one with 4 wives. ADC can't be a viable and serious opposition.

Faceless group. Eastern Union Ko, Western Express ni. Obi better take his VP position to Atiku.

Hope Gumi and Muric are seeing the effect of religious extremism in state affairs. What value has Sharia added to the people of Iran after practicing it for decades? Did it make them richer or better developed? Yet Muric and Islamic council are thinking of spreading Sharia all over the country from the North to SW and then to other parts. Imagine if Gumi and Muric and their brainwashed supporters had used all the energy they are disposing towards propagation of religion to deveping Nigerias economy.Can we do an audit of the positive influence of Sharia to states that have been practicing it since 1999? Even Saudi Arabia is becoming more liberal by moving closer to U.S.

Irony1:
Oga they are not dexamping because Tinubu is a performer, itnis bexause they have been coerced into doing so. Make we talk true for once

Keep deluding yourself. Even Obasanjo as autocratic as he was couldn't make as many opposition govs to defect as this. Tell me who has done this since independence. And Tinubu doesn't even threaten anyone like Obj.

emorse:
Triple allocation that has less value? Nigerians are indeed very smart people. They just like to pretend about it.

If Tinubu is not a better alternative all the govs defecting wouldn't have done so? Are you as informed about the economy as the govs? Do you see any of them paying attention to Obi or Atiku? If Tinubu was not doing well to them they would have the the first to decamp even from APC. Didn't you see it happen during Jonathan's time? You can't argue with value. Do you know how much was spent by past presidents to keep an artificial rate of the naira? And you want us to continue the wasteful spending? Even Otti, NOI and Soludo with finance backgrounds are not condemning the way Tinubu is managing the economy. Do you know more than them?

If you are a gov would you leave a president that guarantees your state of triple allocation without you doing anything and go and join one that keeps talking of washing toilets? Is that what helps him to pay 36 states allocation? Tinubu is working for both the federal and all the 36 states and 774 LGs. Is it easy to do? Truth is no gov wants Jagaban to leave presidency because he has proven competence to them. Even Otti will want to decamp to APC if possible. What is he benefiting from Obi?

Only an animal journalist can do this. What is the point? If he wants to make any point he should do comparative analysis like Lagos to other states or before and after Tinubu. Meanwhile his favourite has not told us how he would reduce rent if he becomes president. He is only talking of washing toilets.

SixSeven:
I just need to break this down here because what you don't understand you will keep being misled.

A tax is money the government collects from people, businesses, or things you buy, to pay for public services like roads, schools, hospitals, and electricity.

Many Nigerians think only people with salaries pay tax because income tax (PAYE) is very visible, it comes straight off your paycheck. But in reality, everyone pays indirect taxes whenever they buy goods, fuel, food, use electricity, phone, or travel. The “hypocrisy” comes from the fact that government talks about income tax more because it’s easy to track, while indirect taxes are hidden in prices, so it feels like the poor or informal workers aren’t paying anything when they actually are.

What annoys me is the japa people that go abroad and yap about taxes. They want Nigeria to have the same western style. If you play with taxes abroad, you'll be shown the way out in the next election and you should also understand the white man and why he does things in a way. When you understand their history, you'll know why we are not the same.

Some countries really do not charge personal income tax at all meaning residents don’t file annual income tax returns like in the UK/US and don’t pay tax on their salaries. Examples include United Arab Emirates (UAE), Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Monaco, Brunei and Vanuatu, among others. These countries still get money for government services through oil, trade, fees, or other taxes, not by taxing individual salaries. Do the maths and tell me one thing in common Nigeria has that some of these countries have. These countries fund government spending through other sources such as oil and gas revenues, corporate taxes, import duties, fees, tourism income or VAT/sales taxes, instead of taxing people’s income directly.

You need to get off this obsession with the west and trying to be like who you are not. This is the miseducation of the average African. Don't forget that in Aba and Ogun State, Women fought the imposition of taxes by the British. Many Nigerians don't even study their history. You should go and read why they didn't want the colonial government collecting taxes from them.


Historically, Western heavy taxation grew partly from scarcity and because they needed money to fund armies, wars, infrastructure, and administrative systems. Land and resources were limited, populations were growing, and scarcity of money made taxes necessary. Scarcity also came from their harsh climates, poor harvests, and limited technology, so the state had to extract more from people to survive and provide basic service, sunlike in some African systems, where wealth was shared communally rather than extracted as formal taxes. When you look at it today, the concept of Black Tax is because in Africa, we share the resources with the rest of us Ubuntu style. Learn why things are the way they are. Today, I see people teaching financial wealth and I laugh when they want us to copy westerners and their form of selfish indiduvual finance.


The day Nigerians wake up to know their rights and why the government cannot just squander their money, they will wake up.

I have one question for you. Those countries you listed above that don't pay tax like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Quatar etc, how much is there population? How many of them have half Nigerias population ? What is there revenue divided by their population like? E.g. Saudi Arabia is 37m, comparable to only Lagos and Ogun State in Nigeria. Please compare and contrast with Nigeria, so that you can prove your theory.

May Obi never happen to anyone!

I don't blame the governors defecting. Who will leave a performing president that has enabled state allocations to more than triple, and then go and join looters and incompetent leaders ? Which girl will leave a boyfriend that is meeting up with his obligations and go for unsure, uncertain and incompetent leaders? We are talking of excellent leadership one of them is talking about washing a dirty toilet. Nah toilet washing you go use pay govs state allocations? Instead of showing us pictures of his achievements as Anambra governor he was engaging in infantile rhetorics. How many toilets did the best leaders like Obama, Reagan, Xi, Putin wash to lead their people? And some people follow him.

AMINDA:
Tell Lagos state to first return the 150 billion they got from Tinubu in the first tranche. Did the federal government announce the donation when it was being given? Nigerians only got to know through a leaked memo after Makinde came for Tinubu. This was how Tinubu quietly disbursed the subsidy savings to settle political favours and subsidize the Southwestern states while borrowing astronomically. The next cash cow they are selling is taxation.

Can you provide the receipt of the #150B given to Lagos same way provided Fayose provided that of Oyo State. Proof yourself or better still let Makinde use his connection as gov to do so.

Switruth:
If Obi were to be the president,these terrorists won't dare show their ugly head.... Gumi knows that.

Prove to me that Obi has what it takes to handle terrorists. Someone who keeps running away from primaries and fights. Terrorists sponsors would just be pushing him right and left. Compare him to Wike. It's obvious no - one can mess with Wike. Obi was impeached twice by his House of Assembly in Anambra.

Heffalump:
I strongly support Utomi on this one. If the retirement age in the federal civil service is 60years what should someone over 70 be doing as president?

Stiff age restriction should be included in our constitution for political offices as president, governor, senate, and rep.

I could vividly recall, Buhari at 72 was visibly crying that age was failing him. Most elderly people at 70 and over have a myriad of protracted illnesses. It's purely a liability on national budget having such individuals as presidents. Again, the most dangerous one is that most critical decisions, either good or bad are often influenced by the croonies surrounding the president, who is aged and cannot act fast with alacrity. His mental dependency level increases.

Age restrictions should be ensured to keep old brains away from active politics and go into permanent retirement.

How old were the last and current American presidents? How old were some of the best leaders worldwide. Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Joe Biden, Trump etc. Even now Trump wants to go a third term. Then in U.K the longest , strongest Prime Minister in contemporary times was Margaret Thatcher. Age has nothing to do with performance. Is Yaya Bello up to 70? Those calling for 70 have their own selfish agenda.

While online Obidients propagandists are online to blackmail Tinubus achievements in 3 years those that are most politically enlightened and know the genius of Tinubus presidency are daily endeared to him and defecting. 30 and counting. The gov know Atiku and Obi are mouth-makers that can't achieve half of what Tinubu has done in 3 years. So, when he becomes VP he will be washing toilets to feed over 220m people. Jokers!

obonujoker:
Oga post pictures of Tinubu Ambulance

Tinubu was the first time start LASAMBUS in the country. He upgraded many Teaching hospitals also. Hospitals were subsidized also by the Lag govt. I might not have the pictures but some people witnessed it. Like the school issue, your body will calm down by the time Reno come in to post pictures and compare.

Melagros:
COMRADES, and the politicians don't care about ugly situations like this, what they are after is how rig their way in 2027

Stop all these hypocrisy and go straight to the point to blame Tinubu for all accidents. Hope Obi was able to eliminate accidents in Anambra when he was gov? Everyone is talking about over speeding of drivers on that road but all you want to deceive with is politicians. Is it Tinubu that will tell drivers not to overspeed in the roads? Obi and Obidients have nothing tangible to offer the country other than gibberish. So, its Trump that regulates drivers speeds on American highways? Obi is a failure.

OlujobaSamuel:
Where you hear Sey dem go restrict your account because of tax

Like the other man, he got his advice from the madman at Upper Iweka now. He is not the only one. When a blind man follows another blind man they both end up in the ditch.

You go explain tire, no evidence!

quadraheem:
Unfortunately, a lot of Nigerians are ignorant and don't know how it's been done even in the developed countries.
It is within the mandate of the Nigerian police to arrest the driver and carry out necessary investigation in order to ascertain if he was not culpable directly or indirectly.

So, it's now they know to apply how it's being done abroad?; So, why don't they apply the same rules when it concerns ordinary citizens? One standard for the poor, and another for the rich.