₦airaland Forum

The time frame for restructuring.

The first 4 years will be used to discuss the time frame then the next 4 will be excuses for failing to restructure during the first 4 years.

Guy we have had enough of all of you.

Do not vote a politician who has held an electivenpost before. We need to kick all of them out from councillor to the president.

Everything is viral.

Ask them what does viral mean and they won't even know.

Viral pics viral videos that are only in nairaland and the blogger who posted it.

DABMarkNig2019:
I'm assuring you without a doubt that you can see the pharmacist first and would eternally be grateful that you did.

Thanks will be back with an update from personal experience if it ever gets to that.

Though 1 result isn't a statistic to make a decision on it will be mine and mine alone.

Amarabae:
Listen up.
A combination of Pharmacy + A private medical laboratory have been saving people's lives since 1960
If you notice any strange feelings about your health,
You don't necessary need a hospital for a minor case unless there is a complication.
So relax,
Pharmacists are trained noble professionals who can treat.
It's just that doctors know about the overall human health more than them

I am not in the position to declare an ailment minor or major and that is my fear. I have a morbid hatred for hospitals but the need to live trumps that. You say unless there's a a complication ( God forbid it gets to that)

Health care providers are top my list cos at least they guarantee an attempt at life. But the cycle I am used to is being changed here ( though I would ask for further clarification offline ). I just want to be sure. I don't joke with health matters at all. Some people are really scared of illness and I am one of them.

Royle2014:
I am a pharmacist, and to say I dont sense sarcasm in your questions would be a lie. However, for the benefit of the doubt, I would gratify you with answers to your rather "mocking" questions

The aspect of making a "mistake" nd or not knowing the right diagnosis. A pharmacist is a professional health care provider. Thus he has undergone rigorous training, read some large numbers of text books nd other research materials to be certified a pharmacist. Thus he wouldn't want to play/ gamble with your health for a mere token of the cost of his/ her services. Same goes with doctors.

Pharmacists know first hand, symptoms that require immediate referrals and wouldn't want to cross such boundaries, not because they are entirely helpless and wouldn't know what to do, but because should anything happen to the said patient, his license to practice would be on the line, and yes, he has a conscience to answer to as well... I for one refer alot of child cases to a pediatrician I am friends with because kids are very vulnerable at such tender ages...
If as a pharmacist, having heard your complaints and requested for a lab test maybe MP, Widal, PCV Urine MCS or HVS and deemed it fit that your case, according to said results can be handled without putting additional pressure on physicians in the hospital, then yes, I am 100% sure I can handle such a case.

Secondly, as to misconstruing a pharmacy and a chemist... There is a huge difference. Only a pharmacy can use the sign "PHARMACY +" next to their operating premises and there must be the presence of a pharmacist there. Ofcos, there may be sales girls, nurses etc... But always request to see the pharmacist
on ground

Sorry to quote this again but as I said I can tell the real pharmacies from the chemist. The plus sign is one and there's an air of professionalism I see when I go there.
Chemists are yuck.

Royle2014:
I am a pharmacist, and to say I dont sense sarcasm in your questions would be a lie. However, for the benefit of the doubt, I would gratify you with answers to your rather "mocking" questions

The aspect of making a "mistake" nd or not knowing the right diagnosis. A pharmacist is a professional health care provider. Thus he has undergone rigorous training, read some large numbers of text books nd other research materials to be certified a pharmacist. Thus he wouldn't want to play/ gamble with your health for a mere token of the cost of his/ her services. Same goes with doctors.

Pharmacists know first hand, symptoms that require immediate referrals and wouldn't want to cross such boundaries, not because they are entirely helpless and wouldn't know what to do, but because should anything happen to the said patient, his license to practice would be on the line, and yes, he has a conscience to answer to as well... I for one refer alot of child cases to a pediatrician I am friends with because kids are very vulnerable at such tender ages...
If as a pharmacist, having heard your complaints and requested for a lab test maybe MP, Widal, PCV Urine MCS or HVS and deemed it fit that your case, according to said results can be handled without putting additional pressure on physicians in the hospital, then yes, I am 100% sure I can handle such a case.

Secondly, as to misconstruing a pharmacy and a chemist... There is a huge difference. Only a pharmacy can use the sign "PHARMACY +" next to their operating premises and there must be the presence of a pharmacist there. Ofcos, there may be sales girls, nurses etc... But always request to see the pharmacist
on ground

Sarcasm? Mocking.

First off I don't go to government hospitals the protocol is too much. I always insist on seeing the specialist when I go private.

That being said my question is simple and to the point. Do I need to see a doctor or can I see a pharmacist. The impression I have is that doctors and pharmacist are the same so why see a doctor? What's the point when I can go straight to a pharmacist.

That is a very simple question. I want to know for myself. As I said before always have had thenopunion that life and death are in the doctors hand will you change my opinion.

It's that simple. P.s my questions came.from a.post from a pharmacist that's why I ask

Amarabae:
And who doesn't know that seeking for help late is dangerous?
Life and death are not in their hands,
They treat ,Jah heals
You can get the best medical attention and yet still not recover .
They are not magicians.

On this I agree with. What I ask is how am I sure the pharmacist wont waste my time trying to treat me and send me to a doctor when it's late.

That is my fear.

That's the certainty I need. Cos I have big pharmacies around me though I don't have a life threatening condition when i feel unwell I go to the doctor to the lab ( maybe ) then the pharmacy. That's my usual route .

They are expensive for instant care so can u assure me as a pharmacist there's no issue with seeing you first?

That's all I ask. I might not see you personally but I assume you speak for pharmacist and will try them first cos it's instant treatment.

DABMarkNig2019:
Yeah i can assure you.
whatever the pharmacist cannot handle he/she refers immediately and of course to a specialist not these ones who have refuse to specialise.

I always see a specialist when I go to the hospital be it for cough and cattarh or back pain. I have also been referred by a doctor to a physiotherapist ( who worked wonders by the way)

I pay a lot so I wonder ( as a Nigerian) is there a cheaper and efficient alternative ?

If I need to see the pharmacist first ( I know the real pharmacies from the chemist) I do t know how but I .ca tell. For prompt treatment and time efficiency.

Amarabae:
Life and death are in doctors hand?
Are you high on Omoku weed?

No. Are you.?

Is it God. I am educated enough to know that seeking for help late is a killer. At least that's what I've read.

I ask for clarification if you know clarify if not keep quiet.

DABMarkNig2019:
first of all you have to know that the pharmacists scope of practice over the years has expanded greatly from the traditional dispensing of drugs...its a bitter fact that the medical colleague's have refused to accept. it's not only in Nigeria but the world over.
In the western world medical specialisations is the in thing..drs don't exchange words with pharmacist's and nurses in subacute and chronic setting's . A physician does a physician work and if you don't specialise you're on your own.
Pharmacist's are taken on more clinical responsibilities more than ever especially in chronic settings to augment for drs shortages and to reduce patients waiting time. The curriculum in pharmacy schools have been expanded greatly to provide for this. These are the facts and they're verifiable so what you're quoting me for are things pharmacist's are trained to do. It's only in Nigeria drs are blackmailing every other professionals within the hospitals. I understand how difficult it is watching other people taking over your traditional duty however health care is vast and Nigerian drs should go and specialise.

Firstly I always thought that pharmacist role is drug production ( excise my ignorance) so how come you want to treat me? You sound certain of your argument. And that I understand, I have always believed life and death are in the doctors hands. When you say subacute or chronic I have no idea what that means.

All I ask is that can I be sure if I go see my pharmacist where u buy medication I can be certain without a doubt that there would be no errors.

I need to know. Educate us cos doctors are making expensive errors. At no cost to them

Royle2014:
Actually, going by standard practice in developed countries ofcos... The community pharmacist is the first point of call if a patient does not want to visit a hospital. The pharmacist is trained to assess/ clerk the patient, and draw a diagnosis from presenting symptoms and if siad diagnosis are non life threatening or chronic and within the expertise of the pharmacist to manage, then the pharmacist can and should initiate treatment. My argument is not whether or not a pharmacist can perform the role of a doctor and vice versa as both make a fundamental part in the Healthcare team and shld even be the two profession closest to one another to better serve the patient ... My point however is to let you know that yes indeed, a pharmacist may treat if the presenting condition does not call for a referral...

Are.you 100% certain that my condition doesn't call for a referral. After all doctors are known to make mistakes how sure are you to make a diagnosis. I ask because I visit the hospitals based on seeing a doctor but If you are certain them what's the need.

You made mentioned thencommuniry pharmacist what does that mean? J know a lot of chemist I go to but medication from aren't literate enough to even understand what I am talking about but I know what I want hence I just ask for it straight up.

Who is a community pharmacist? Are they workers in a big pharmacy sorry for the questions I just need to know. Cos doctors tend to charge a lot

Apparently they deserve each other. Two illiterate smuck

Deji63:
Divorce is a scam. Stick to one woman. If it doesn't curb baby mamaism. It will at least curb divorce rates. Think on a lighter note.

If You stick to the woman who wants a divorce what do you do..

Tell her to go Bleep herself.

donstan18:
On Nairaland.......Most ladies are working class, beautiful, sexy, classy and intelligent.

But in reality, look at what they are.

Bleep me sideways

DABMarkNig2019:
what an irony.
is it not your mates Buhari and et al are running to abroad? Your mates are carrying out ground breaking surgeries using cutting edge technology in the UK, USA, Europe,Canada and Ghana you're not ashamed staying here dragging the treatment of chronic illnesses, infectious dxs, internal medicine, and primarily care with me. There's nothing basically a Nigerian dr can do that a pharmacist cannot do outside surgical procedures.

Quick question are you a pharmacist or a pharmacy student. Why I ask is that you don't seem to understand how/ what a pharmacist training entails him to.

What you want is to see the patient and refer to doctor or manage the patient on your own. I know when I go to the hospital I go and see a doctor not a pharmacist or lab technician.

If your training states you can treat people let me know cos maybe I've been scammed by the doctors for a long time.

See as dem dey share money.

But I am not fooled sharing is still going on and when bubu leaves we will know all.

bedspread:
I thought about this ooooo when I saw Bros in Molueoooo....

Let's Keep Watching..... na Nigeria we de

That molue shit was staged

MPESA:
Good am, Sir with due respect I can go ahead and list some Africa countries and some few location that is not porch area that people are paying more or few less to 500 dollars , sir is not a big deal , considering the fact that 500 USD is just MORE or LESS of 50k while its 175k in Our useless Naira currency . mind you Nigeria pays house rent per annum but most Africans starting from East ,South,and North Africans pay mostly per month and with another month deposits. Again it all depens on individuals and the kind of life style they chose to live but for me 500 dollars is way too small for a Whizkid baby and his mother to survive.
P.S
She's not spending with our useless Naira currency.
SHALOM.

You've already done the value congestion yourself.

Basically what 500 dollars can get you 175k naira can get you. The only difference is the existing infrastructure of the land but in purchasing power it's the same thing. It's value.

500 dollars is a big deal in many African countries. Even if rent is monthly. Also you say for a wizkid baby so the ish is he has money and therefore should pay more.

His former girlfriend didn't get pregnant for him now that's a smart girl cos she knew what's up. This one time hoes just wanna feed fat and he bounced you guys are calling him dead beat. Why didn't she Bleep a battery charger and be asking for dollars.

Elder001:
do you have sense at all?

The US government officials can only do such if they were legally married.. babymamas aren't given child support in the US.
Courts don't even recognize baby mamas

The person you quoted is the real jon snow he knows nothing yet opens his mouth to be spewing thrash. The u.s should freeze the money wizkid makes that was where I stopped reading.

Person he's not even married to has no legal right to a dime of his cash. Please ignore them

MPESA:
Don't mind some people because they mention 4.5 the money sound so much without thinking its was just a mere 500 dollars every month which is not up to some house bills in most of Africans countries.
She's not spending in our useless Naira currency.

500 hundred dollars is not up to some house bills in most of African countries.

There s no need to discuss further with you.

Out of the 200 million Nigerians how many do you think earn 500 dollars a month?

Hayzead07:
are you saying 4million is not enough to take care of a child for 2years?

Actually it's 4.8million.

That's 2.4 a year.

Roughly 200k a month.

And they said he's not trying.

I didn't even look at the figure initially now I am pissed. Hungry girl. She should work and pay her own part too.

Jesus.

I said it she wanted to use the baby as a pathway to the life of leisure and it backfired

Jiang:
Awww what a cute little bastard, soo adorable

You're evil

Maybe he should be called wiz snow.

dominique:
Where in her post did she indicate that she wants her baby daddy to foot all the bills for the child's needs? She has been doing this alone for a year and half and not as much as a phonecall from the guy and you think that's ok? It's highly irresponsible. We know it's wrong to have a child outside of wedlock but does the child deserve to be neglected because of that?

You're still missing the point, the child has no blame in this and I feel sorry for him because he didn't ask to be born.

Now his father doesn't give a damn. He's balling. Remember I mentioned he was irresponsible but I put the blame on her.

Ps she said all he ever sent was 13k. She could have left that out and complained of lack of attention. Her story would have been a bit believable. She wants cash after all she sees her baby daddy balling up and down the planet and she's stuck with his love child.

Pregnancy is no longer the way to hook a man's wallet. A responsible man shouldn't have 2 or 3 baby mamas. Any girl who gets pregnant for wizkid again ( without the I do) will be the biggest buffoon on the planet and watch one will soon crawl out the woodwork cos they never learn and keep trying the same old trick.