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Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:20am On Jul 15, 2014
ddippset: no player can win the world cup all alone. but in this tournament, messi show how a single player can drag his team almost singlehandedly. you were one of those saying at the beginning of the world cup that this argentine team are not good, belgium will knock them out, holland will knock the out and so on. then they reached the final and all of a sudden you guys remember mascherano made 1 million tackles. against iran with 10 men behind the ball and 1 min to go messi struck! against bosnia with 25 mins to go and 1 men behind the ball, messi struck! against switzerland with seconds to go and 9 men behind the ball, messi struck, against belgium with all their stars messi drew 3 defenders and laid a through pass to de maria for the only goal, against holland with all of the holland stars running from the first penalty messi stepped forward and led his team by example. even with mascherano's 1 million tackles and passes, argentina would never have crossed the quarter final.
Messi did not do it almost single handedly. Argentina did not have a high goal scoring performance. What saved them was that their defence was rock solid and they went behind once in the whole world cup and that was for About seven minutes in the whole world cup.

It was not almost single handedly. It is not true.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:17am On Jul 15, 2014
ddippset: na wa o! you said forlan took them to the semi final, abi you nor talk am. can any body jump from first round to semi final? you go from quarter final to semi final. so stop trying to be smart- i permit you to say forlan took them to the quarter final , never say forlan took them to the semi final.
The goal in the Uruguay vs Ghana game in 2010 scored by the Uruguayans was scored by Forlan. So how did he not take them there. Suarez was red carded, a penalty given and Gyan missed. They went into penalties, Forlan scored and Uruguay won by penalties. Tell me how Suarez took them there more than Forlan?
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:13am On Jul 15, 2014
ddippset: na wa o! you said forlan took them to the semi final, abi you nor talk am. can any body jump from first round to semi final? you go from quarter final to semi final. so stop trying to be smart- i permit you to say forlan took them to the quarter final , never say forlan took them to the semi final.
Is it one game it takes to reach third place in a World Cup? Forlan was brilliant the whole tournament. He was the difference for Uruguay. So tell me about Messi. Was he the best player in this World Cup? Nope.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:11am On Jul 15, 2014
rahazaqa: Reus is not from Germany.
He is German.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:10am On Jul 15, 2014
ddippset: i said 'almost single handedly' you try to twist it to 'single handedly' lols.
Argentine strength came from their defence. Left to Messi, they would not have made it with a shaky defence. There is no almost single handedly. Mascherano, Garay and Zabaletta were amazing. Even Demeichelis put in an amazing performance. Rojo was clearly in the top 3 right backs of the competition with Howedes and Blind.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:03am On Jul 15, 2014
ddippset: how is suarez not in the debate? you tried to mis inform that forlan took them to the semi final when it was suarez who punched out the goal that was to dump uruguay out of the world cup. you think we've forgotten?
Are you saying Suarez punching the ball out won the games from the starting of the tournament till the third place? Haba.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:01am On Jul 15, 2014
ddippset: self denial again! you are one of those who started shouting mascherano just because he made a tackle on robben after 6 games, lol. garay great, rojo great, even demicheles great, but even a 5 month old foetus knows that without messi, argentina would make the quarter final. i will not school you on this one as well.
You see how you exposed yourself? No wonder you thought Messi did it single handedly. You did not know that:

Mascherano made 28 tackles at the 2014 World Cup, more than any other player.

Mascherano made a tournament-high 509 passes with a 90% completion rate.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28275448
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:57pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: wtf are you talking about?
You did not give a point and went with of there was anything as head and shoulder.

Give reasons.

How did Messi do it almost single handedly, I am waiting.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:55pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: see who is talking incoherency! what is forlan and shudder? what is shudder. surely you dont mean sneijder! so now you want to play god by judging what is a beautiful goals and what is not? i keep telling you, your opinion is entirely yours. stop thinking you and making a lot of sense to the world.
You knew I was talk I g of Sneijder. That is from my Tabs auto correct function. You were talking of Suarez who has no reason to be in the debate. That is total incoherency. So how did Messi do it almost single handedly? Especially with Mascherano, Di Maria and Garay performing.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:51pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: 'head and shoulders', 'head and shoulders', 'head and shoulders'. these words only exist in your imagination. if there was anything like head and shoulders then one man will get 100% of the votes. there are 5 top contestant and each had a case, each had pros and cons. drop this your head and shoulders for one side abegi!
Give your facts and not ifs.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:50pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: never in my life have i seen or heard of a player still being criticised after getting to the world cup final. out of 32 teams (whether you play sweet or ugly), you make it to the top 2, and still being down rated. this is sad. messi took argentina almost singlehandedly to the world cup final, and they are still criticizing? man is indeed wicked!
You guys stop spreading lies. How did Messi do it almost single handedly. Garay was a revelation in this tournament. Mascherano was exceptional in tackling and recovery. Mascherano was the World Cup's pass master.

Di Maria had an amazing World Cup. So how did Messi do it almost single handedly?
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:47pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: lie of the century! in 2010, any of sneider, iniesta, villa, muller, casillas could have beaten forlan to the golden ball, esp sneider. he was the reason uruguay reached the semi final? another majestic lie. what did he do against ghana? a suarez turned keeper was the reason uruguay reached the semi final. ( and so tell me mr know it all, who was the reason spain reached the final? who was the reason netherland reached the final? or you want to tell me now that semi final is bigger than final?)
Incoherency again. Suarez is not Forlan. Suarez action does not tell on Forlan.


Forlan and Shudder had Five goals and one assists. But, Forlan scored two wonder goals. Long range amazing goals. That sets him apart. So why should the award be given to Sneijder instead of Forlan?

The claim should go to Müller, who had 5 goals and 3 assists. Forlan edged him with the amazing goal which brings the magic factor I talked about. So why should it be Sneijder?
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:41pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: the essence of the world cup is not for james or anybody to come and win the best player award. the essence of the world cup is for a country to come and win the world cup trophy. getting to the quarter final is not enough.
The Golden Ball award is an individual award. Simple question who was the best player at the World Cup. That individual that stood head and shoulders above every other player at the World Cup. It definitely was not Messi.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:39pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: messi has no case? messi has no case? messi has no case? messi has no case? lwkmd. argentina's first final in 24 years! the only guy with 4 man of the match awards? 4 goals and 1 assist! highest dribbles! highest chances created! one of the best goals of the tournament! and he has no case? this is getting ridiculous.
First final in 24 years. You guys are funny. Highest chances from many corner kicks. Highest dribbles. Okocha deserves the 1998 Golden Ball. 4 man of the match award ARPANET Iran, Bosnia, Nigeria and the fake one against Switzerland. As I said before no case.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:36pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: lemme indulge you one more time- james did not win the golden ball because his team didnt advance enough; a quarter final spot is not good enough to win you a golden ball, no player in the history of the competition has ever won it from the quarter final position. robben, lots of runs, lots of dribbles, lots of dives! messi didnt score in the knock out, robben didnt either, robben scored only 3 times, messi 4 times, robben got to semi final, messi final, robben won 2 man of match awards messi 4, robben's team got eliminated by messi's team, so how in the name of zeus' bvtthole should robben be placed above messi? muller, yes that's the guy i expected to win it only ahead of messi, maybe he didnt win because he wasnt as indispensable to his team as messi was. maybe. so do you understand now? i know you will never understand.
Why quote me and start talking about ROBben. Did I ever mention ROBben for the award? As I said read what I said before writing and stop creating incoherent posts.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:34pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: lemme indulge you one more time- james did not win the golden ball because his team didnt advance enough; a quarter final spot is not good enough to win you a golden ball, no player in the history of the competition has ever won it from the quarter final position. robben, lots of runs, lots of dribbles, lots of dives! messi didnt score in the knock out, robben didnt either, robben scored only 3 times, messi 4 times, robben got to semi final, messi final, robben won 2 man of match awards messi 4, robben's team got eliminated by messi's team, so how in the name of zeus' bvtthole should robben be placed above messi? muller, yes that's the guy i expected to win it only ahead of messi, maybe he didnt win because he wasnt as indispensable to his team as messi was. maybe. so do you understand now? i know you will never understand.
Where did you get the advancement criteria from. How far will it be advancement enough? James Rodriguez was clearly the best player of the World Cup. He was head and shoulders over everyone including Muller, ROBben and Messi.

He did not need 7 matches. If how far you advanced is a criteria, then the winner should be the person that advanced the farthest. Which isn't Messi. Messi had no case.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:31pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: you are pained! you have posted more than 100 negative comments on messi's golden ball since yesterday. you better give it up already. by next week just check wikipedia and you will always see- WORLD CUP BRAZIL 2014, GOLDEN BALL-LIONEL ANDREAS MESSI.
Not negative comments but facts. Yes Messi's name will be written in history but even his number one fan Maradona said it was a lie. Which proves deception and cheating.

If anyone supports it, congrats to them.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:29pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: This year we have messi, james, robben, neuer, muller and kroos. everyone of these 6 players has a strong case for the golden ball but only one has to win. but why is the crying so much this year? SIMPLE! because messi is involved! ever since 2009, everything has been messi or ronaldo. anything messi wins, ronaldo fans would come out in thousands crying, anything ronaldo wins, messi fans would come out in thousands crying. 90% of those crying about this golden ball to messi are ronaldo fan boys either openly or in disguise. but they will keep crying.
You said players in 2010 had strong cases. That is the answer why a lot of people are disappointed. Messi has no case why he was given the award.

Players had better cases like Müller - 5 goals and 3 assists. His team won the World Cup.
James Rodriguez - 6 goals and 2 assists. All done in five games. He scored two amazing goals and the best goal of the tournament.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:06pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: good you say zidane was the stand out player, others were below par, ronaldinho and co. but that was not the situation in 2010 and 2014. in SA 2010, there were a lot of stand out players and there was controversy as well, was it to be forlan, sneider, iniesta, xavi, villa, muller and casillas. each one of these 7 players had a very strong case for the golden ball. when forlan was awarded there was a bit of grumbling i promise you. this year we have messi, james, robben, neuer, muller and kroos. everyone of these 6 players has a strong case for the golden ball but only one has to win. but why is the crying so much this year? SIMPLE! because messi is involved! ever since 2009, everything has been messi or ronaldo. anything messi wins, ronaldo fans would come out in thousands crying, anything ronaldo wins, messi fans would come out in thousands crying. 90% of those crying about this golden ball to messi are ronaldo fan boys either openly or in disguise. but they will keep crying.
No player in 2010 World Cup stood out than Forlan. Forlan was nothing short of magical. He scored two of the best goals of that World Cup. He was the reason Uruguay reached the Semi finals.


Messi, Xavi, Sneijder, Muller were not better than Forlan. Forlan's impossible shots put him ahead of them. Only Muller scored close to him.

The question is why Messi got that award.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:01pm On Jul 14, 2014
sweetguy10:


If you like analyse till day after next tomorrow , Messi don collect am and ur sentimental opinions doesn't count an Inch. If you are so pained , lagos Lagoon can do you justice .
So pained? You got to be kidding me. I was pained when Zidane knocked out Brazil in 2006. I was pained when Zidane knocked out Spain in 2006. I was pained when the Referee awarded a fake penalty for an Aguero dive against Nigeria in 2005 WYC.

This does not pain me. What pains me is when I see people supporting cheating and corruption. It is one thing for someone to get cheated. It is another thing when people lie to support cheating.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:57pm On Jul 14, 2014
Habeyy: . stop analysing what u don't know...u said messi played well which was only in. d group stages..what about muller that scored an hatrick against Portugal and carry his form to the final or James Rodriguez that won't stop scoring from d group stage till d quarter final...probably u don't know he. also played and scored in d second. round. against Uruguay ..let ur argument be devoid of sentiment.. I believe NL is full of reasonable. people
James Rodriguez goal was also the best goal of the World Cup.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:56pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: o yeah, you love to use examples that are so convenient for you. so when forlan won the golden ball in 2010, he was the best in what? when zidane won it in 2006 he was the best in what? when ribery won the european player of the year he was the best in what? you dont have to be best in anything, you have to be the best player. being best player doesnt stop at scoring the highest goals. it's left for the constituted panel to sit and decide. your problem is that you feel you know what is right and what is to be done! you ve got only one head, other people have got only one head as well. because you think something is right does ot make it right.
If you read my points, you would not have to ask me.

Ribery was in the record breaking treble winning Bayern side. I think in the Bayern side, he had the highest assists.

Zidane had one of the most memorable performance in World Cup history. He outclassed Two former Ballon For winners (Kaka And Ronaldo Da Lima) and the present Ballon D'Or Winner then (Ronaldinho).

Forlan had Five goals (highest in the World Cup) and Three assists.

So tell me about Messi in 2010.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:45pm On Jul 14, 2014
yegbamee: What best did Zidane win to be 2006 Golden ball winner?
We can not deny that Zidane was actually the best player in the 2006 World Cup. Without doubt, he was head and shoulders above everyone in that tournament.

Note when I listed criteria, I said something magical to give your team a lift. Zidane gave one of the greatest world cup performance ever seen in the game against Brazil in 2006. His game also against the Spaniards was breathless.

Zidan in 2006 World Cup was nothing less than magic.

Zinedine Zidane vs Brazil - Magical Performance 2006 WC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNxDze0Ggag
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:39pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: you again! you never tire? iam sure you didnt sleep well last nite because messi now has a world cup silver medal and a golden ball. james rodriguez did more and yet he went home in the quarter final, comparing him with messi who played in the final? so sad.
Messi plays with Lavezzi, Di Maria, Higuain, Mascherano, Zabaletta, Aguero = 4 goals and 1 assists in 7 games.

James Rodriguez plays with Teo Gutierrez, Ibarbo, Cuadrado, Jackson Martinez, Zuniga = 6 goals and 2 assists in 5 games. cheesy grin cheesy cheesy grin grin

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Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:35pm On Jul 14, 2014
ddippset: all these ronaldo fan boys sef! they are like an abused housewife who keeps coming back! 69 goals astonishing? what about 91 goals? lol. okay messi did not deserve the award, messi is not the best ever, messi is not greater than maradona. has ronaldo ever played in a world cup final? has ronaldo ever won a world cup medal? has ronaldo ever won a world cup bronze ball? no he cant. forget maradona, a new assignment for your 30 yr old ronaldo. at least this can make me sleep well at night.
You are being incoherent. I was not talking about CR7 being better than Messi read again. You will see you are the sentimental one here.

I said you have to be the best in some criteria before being tagged the best. Just like when Messi broke the scoring record of Gerd Müller.

You just went ballistic because I used CR7 as an example. I was responding to someone saying CR7 went trophyless and was still crowned the best.

He was the best at being the season's top goal scorer. In the World Cup, Messi was not an assists king or top goal scorer.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 9:57pm On Jul 14, 2014
pascalmilan11: Germany has d team but Argentina has messi ...remember golden ball is an individual award so dat boy deserved it
I have never heard of a Golden Ball given because a player was the most important. It is what the player brought to the table.

By the way, Argentina had better individual talents than the Germans. The Argentine chose to make Messi the point of their game. I feel that has been the downfall Of this Argentine Generation since after the 2005 WYC. Messi must be the best player, not Argentina must win.

The Germans chose to play as a team, the Argentines chose to make Messi shine in a World cup.

James Rodriguez did more than Messi in Five games compared to Messi's seven games. Messi did not deserve it.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 9:42pm On Jul 14, 2014
Ephemmm:


You mean Ronaldo won "peak milk thing" before getting his last award? for your information, he won it in a season when Mourhino went trophyless for the first time in his carrer. C ronaldo was not even the highest goal scorer in La liga despite Messi's injury. Check it out. In 2006, Zidane won the Golden Ball award with 3 goals(2 penalties) and 1 assist. Got a red card in the final and his team finished as runner up. So what is the big deal here?
The World Cup is not Ballon D'or. This is a tournament. It takes a best at something to be crowned the best player of the World Cup.

Best goal scorer, best assists, highest in combination when you look at assists and goals of all players. Best defender, best keeper. Or, a magical performance that gives your team the World Cup.

Look at 1982 final look at Paolo Rossi of 1982 World Cup who won the golden boot and scored a hat trick in the finals. You can not argue with it. Forlan in 2010, his five goals and one assists.

Even the CR7 Ballon D'or of 2013 was declared the highest goal scorer in a season in 2013. An astonishing 69 goals.

So what was the best Messi won to be the Golden ball winner? Nothing.

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Business / Re: Punter Backed Germany To Beat Brazil 7-1, Wins $46,000 [pix] by thegoodjoehunt(m): 1:40pm On Jul 14, 2014
Double post
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:31pm On Jul 14, 2014
chrisley024:
All na wash immediately I saw Luiz there but no Boateng
Luis might have made mistakes but he put in his work and won a lot of balls.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:29pm On Jul 14, 2014
Joarams:

Good player no doubt. But like someone said, don't bother yourself, this is marketing for FIFA. He didn't even make the FIFA/Castrol Index Official Statistics Top 10 Players or Team of the Tournament

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/players/index.html

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/castrol-index/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10954258/World-Cup-2014-Premier-League-players-fail-to-make-Fifa-Castrol-Index-team-of-the-tournament-so-far.html
Statistics reveals a lot. Who knew Vrij performed statistically better than Vlarr.
Sports / Re: Did Messi Deserve The World Cup Golden Ball? by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:27pm On Jul 14, 2014
Joarams:

Good player no doubt. But like someone said, don't bother yourself, this is marketing for FIFA. He didn't even make the FIFA/Castrol Index Official Statistics Top 10 Players or Team of the Tournament

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/players/index.html

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/castrol-index/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10954258/World-Cup-2014-Premier-League-players-fail-to-make-Fifa-Castrol-Index-team-of-the-tournament-so-far.html
Thank you for your fantastic point. I rest my case.
Business / Re: Punter Backed Germany To Beat Brazil 7-1, Wins $46,000 [pix] by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:55am On Jul 14, 2014
hardbody:

You are so thick skulled. It was not and had nothing to do with bragging. Read the entire thread and you will understand what transpired. And yes what i reeled out is my salary (take home and all). I don't curse, i only advised you to think forward and think big. If continue to think small, you will remain a 'big' fish in a tiny bowel of water
You are also being judgmental. Who is thinking small. Let me educate you. That $46,000 made by that guy can be grown into a huge sum of dollars in less than a year. So that money is enough capital for a hustler to consider the winner a made man.

Secondly, I did not make my comment after spreading the whole thread. I made it not long after your comment.

You made a mistake and said you make that kind of Money in a month. You do not make about N24 million in a month. People like Yaya make over that in a week.

So admit you made a mistake.

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