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Politics / Re: PDP And APC Governors Team Up Against Okonjo-Iweala by TheReborn(f): 11:35am On May 20, 2015
But at the end of a meeting held at Transcorp Hilton Hotel on Monday night in Abuja, which had the likes of Governors Godswill Akpabio, Emmanuel Uduaghan, Gabriel Suswam, Isa Yuguda of Akwa-Ibom...

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Politics / Re: Photo: Oshiomhole Weds Fortes by TheReborn(f): 1:27pm On May 15, 2015
Imagine all the hue and cry if it was a female government official marrying a Tyson Beckford looking male hottie, especially when it is obvious it is all for the money. Government money for that matter.

Now it is this owl faced governor notorious for sticking his p.enis in Polytechnic girls, and testosterone driven human beings have been jumping from thread to thread hailing his choice and shouting 'I must to make it'. Mumu people.

Anyway, goodluck and sambo to this very yellow foreigner. I hope you enjoy oshiomhole's massive balls and shrivelled p.enis. grin

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Politics / Re: Photo: Oshiomhole Weds Fortes by TheReborn(f): 1:18pm On May 15, 2015
Kachisbarbie:


yimu
You have any evidence that she married him for money? grin

Afterall, there are rich guys. She could have easily gone for a rich guy, so I think it's more than money at times.

Taaaaaa! Stopeeeet! grin
Politics / Re: Photo: Oshiomhole Weds Fortes by TheReborn(f): 1:16pm On May 15, 2015
somegirl1:


Lol
She's a brave lady to have the guts to follow through with this. Poverty and covetousness are a terrible combination.

Aswear. undecided
Politics / Re: Photo: Oshiomhole Weds Fortes by TheReborn(f): 1:13pm On May 15, 2015
bettercreature:
Its love! not every lady date a man for money

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin grin
Politics / Re: A Forensic Analysis Of The Orubebe's Drama by TheReborn(f): 1:00pm On May 15, 2015
Overflogged. Boring as hell. undecided
Culture / Re: 10 Reasons Why Nigeria Is The Best Country In The World by TheReborn(f): 10:34pm On May 11, 2015
searching4lovee:
undecided

I DISAGREE WITH THE NIGERIAN GIRLS ASPECT undecided NIGERIAN GIRLS ARE HUNGRY WHORES WHOM SHOULD BE IGNORED BY SANE MEN. NIGERIAN GIRLS ARE NOT MARRIAGE WORTHY AND A LOT OF THEM SEE RELATIONSHIP WITH MEN AS A POVERTY ALLEVIATION PROGRAM HENCE THEY KEEP MINIMUM OF 3 MEN WITH THE HOPE OF MILKING THEM DRY undecided

NIGERIAN GIRLS ALSO HAVE TERRIBLE HYGIENES AND THEIR RANDY NATURE MAKES THEM HAVE SMELLY PUSSSIES AND THEY ARE DISEASE CARRIERS. NIGERIAN GIRLS ARE DISLOYAL, HUNGRY, RUDE, UNCULTURED AND LACK HOME TRAINING. THIS IS WHY ITS ADVISABLE FOR ANY MAN TO GO FOR FOREIGN GIRLS INSTEAD OF THESE FINANCIAL BED BUGS CALLED NIGERIAN GIRLS.

#Team foreign girls cool

Sometimes I think you are a foreign girl marketing your wares on this forum. I could be wrong though. Maybe you are just the self hating son of a Nigerian woman with bad hygiene. Just so you know, we are not your mother. kiss

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 11:35pm On May 03, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:

Lol! The Bajan slaves came from Africa. Barbados has a decent igbo ancestry along with other groups. Common sense is not so common.

Yes, the Igbos are the ones with 'sense', constantly claiming what belongs to other tribes.

Ibo Ideograms ko. Ojukwu hieroglyphics ni.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 11:13pm On May 03, 2015
OgagaMic:


u see reason y I dislike gbos,,,


Godforbid, never will Any SS form alliance with u, I was making a point u tribalize it, am jst happy we re nt in ur country, men Our land 4 b, Warri Ojukw, or ughelli obi, una 4 convent all our tins to Igbo

tanks to my forefathers, David EJor. and all those who never let us b enslave in 1967 in d name of Biafra..


Gosh, Igbo pls change. dont think other tribe re nothing y u re d king,


God forbid o! They can carry their Biafra and go jump. grin

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 11:12pm On May 03, 2015
ezeagu:


These people will not kill me. Mozambique that did not produce 1000 slaves. The lengths!

"The largest minority group in Virginia is African American, at 19.7% as of 2013.[122] Most African American Virginians have been descendants of enslaved Africans who worked on tobacco, cotton, and hemp plantations. These men, women and children were brought from west-central Africa, primarily from Angola and the Bight of Biafra. The Igbo ethnic group of what is now southern Nigeria were the single largest African group among slaves in Virginia.[133] Though the black population was reduced by the Great Migration, since 1965 there has been a reverse migration of blacks returning south.[134] According to the Pew Research Center, the state has the highest concentration of black and white interracial marriages.[135]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia

"Beginning in the early 1700s, Virginia tobacco planters imported increasing numbers of captive Africans to work their plantations. The shift from white indentured servants to enslaved Africans in the colony’s tobacco economy had far-reaching repercussions. Race-based slavery soon became a central feature of life in Virginia, and Africans and their Virginia-born descendents would be treated as property, and denied the freedom and opportunities of white colonists. As settlement expanded westward, enslaved Africans and African Americans were among the settlers in backcountry areas. Nearly 40% of the Africans imported into Virginia during this time were brought from a part of the West African coast called the Bight of Biafra. Many of these captives were Igbo, a people living in the upland area north of the Bight of Biafra in what is now the nation of Nigeria. The West African Farm represents life in a free Igbo household in the Biafran hinterlands in the 1700s."

http://www.frontiermuseum.org/exhibits/1700s-west-africa/

There were no Mozambicans or Angolans of course.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/world/2013/06/where_did_slaves_come_from_in_africa_angola_is_one_place.html

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 10:55pm On May 03, 2015
bigfrancis21:


The link you provided says nothing about the african tribes in virginia.

Now what about DNA evidence that pitches several AAs to the Igbo tribe? What is your 'opposition' to the Igbo DNA testing oh ye pathetically slow self-acclaimed 'intelligent' one?

Jesus! Are you being deliberately stupid? undecided undecided undecided

I wrote that the article says most slaves in Virginia came from the Caribbean. You are the one claiming Ibos dominated Virginia.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 10:53pm On May 03, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Just a single mention in the passing is all the evidence you have to provide? There are thousands of pages on the internet detailing the Igbo slave trade and after 3 hours of searching the internet you were only able to provide just one reference to the ejaghams in passing? I laugh in ejagham language.

I could be very sure that the single mention of ejagham is the only mention in the entire article of that link you quoted.

Learn some common sense and reasoning.

And please, stop stealing english language. The british people invented it and they own it. You ejagham thieves. You have youur own writing system. Please write in nsibidi.

grin grin grin grin grin grin Such silliness. I am not the one claiming somebody's language as my own. You keep missing the point.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 10:49pm On May 03, 2015
Most slaves were taken from Barbados than shipped from Africa. So where did our Igbo tribal jingoist get their '70%' from?

http://www.virginiaplaces.org/population/slaveorigin.html

Some sources claim Mozambique as having the highest number of slaves in Virginia, next from Nigeria. Some say Angola.

In Julie Dash's 'Daughters of the Dust', one could see more slaves from other African countries than Igbos. Igbos were not even popular among slave owners in Virginia because they refused to face the grim reality of slavery, wilfully dying in some cases to avoid slavery.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 10:40pm On May 03, 2015
bigfrancis21:


In your slow pathetic state, you smartly overlooked the part in your article that mentions that the majority of the slaves taken from bight of biafra were Igbos. You would rather turn around and lay your curse on Igbos for repeating what research and history has confirmed rather than tackle the researchers themselves who have the evidence.

I have more sense in one finger than you have in your entire lineage. You asked for evidence that Ejagham slaves were taken from the Bight of Biafra, I gave you. Please stop quoting me, you miserable id.iot.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 10:38pm On May 03, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:

How many Ejaghams were taken to Virginia? At the end of the day,it was the white Americans that made the postulations not igbos. This one is just transfer of aggression. Who will even take you serious. Wait! Igbos are currently modernising nsibidi for igbo people.

Presented with evidence, you talk about the white man making postulations. The same white man said Ejagham slaves made the markings. I thought you said no Ejagham slaves were taken from the Bight of Biafra.

And we don't care if you modernize Insibidi for the Igbos. We own the ideogram. The fact that we speak English does not make us better than the English. So please modernize Insibidi, the creation of the Ejagham for the Ibo. We don't mind at all. grin

This just makes us SS more wary of you guys. Next, you will start claiming the oil. Na wa.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 10:12pm On May 03, 2015
bigfrancis21:


So what is your point? That the nsibidi writings on the grave stones in virginia, a place known to have at least 70% Igbos of all african tribes in the state, were written by the ejagham? undecided

Second, in your ease and quest to pull out 'websites', please pull out a link showing where ejaghams were recorded in slavery or ever sold out of biafra. Then we can start a new line of inquiry that ejagham slaves, not igbo slaves, wrote the nsibidi writings on those grave stones.

Third, why will you turn your anger towards Igbos, instead of being thankful for spreading your writing system beyond nigeria - a feat the ejaghams themselves were unable to do? Are the writers of those websites attributing the nsibidi works on the gravestones to Igbo slaves Igbos themselves or american researchers? Weren't the white american researchers themselves the ones who did and published the research and findings, and posted it on the net, of which you are now knowing? Was the website writing done by Igbos? Why suddenly pointing fingers at Igbos for no just cause?

You are pathetically slow.

You and your entire family are slow.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/23267213?uid=3738720&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21106686753233

Read the link above showing other tribes taken out of the Bight of Biafra. If you are not blinded by your idiotic arrogance, you might just see Ejagham listed there.

Igbos this, Igbos that. The Igbos spread the use of English language na. Ode.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 9:54pm On May 03, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Where did I ever discedit the ejjaghams? Right from my first post i have kept mentioning it that the ejaghams are the inventors of nsibidi but the actual writers of nsibidi on the grave stones are the igbos of southern igboland who adopted this system of writing from the ejaghams.

Your problem is your failed inability to see beyond your perceived 'igbo phobia' and your phobia that 'igbos have taken over nsibidi'. If you don't want Igbos to write in nsibidi, and want it to be exclusively youurs, then it makes no sense that youu speak and write another person's language - English language.


And this link http://ugrrquilt.hartcottagequilts.com/woods proves you are a liar.

Yes we borrow languages, but I won't go as far as claiming that the engravings made by the originators of my borrowed language were done by members of my tribe or country. It smacks of mischief.

Besides the title of your thread is misleading. If you believe the writing to be from the Ejagham tribe and 'written by the Ibos', the title of this thread should have been 'Ejagham Ideograms made by Ibo slaves in....' but instead we got 'Igbo ideograms...'

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 9:48pm On May 03, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Are you this dumb? The language that we speak and write in today is English, which is not ours but belongs to the British people. Today, nigerians write books in english language, even though the language of writing is not ours, but the work is attributed to the Nigerian authors. The same goes for the authors of nsibidi writings on the grave stones who were Igbo slaves, not ejagham slaves, even though ejaghams invented the nsibidi writing system.

Are you this slow?

You are the retard here. Idiot. angry

You want us to believe that the 'Ibos' made those markings because you were there. I have provided evidence that the markings were considered as made by Ejagham slaves, but no, you people must claim everything.

I have provided a link disputing your claim you liar. Those markings were developed by the Ejagham and made by Ejagham slaves. Read the link below. Ode.

http://ugrrquilt.hartcottagequilts.com/woods

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 9:37pm On May 03, 2015
bigfrancis21:


I don't see anybody claiming nsibidi as Igbo. The issue at hand here isn't about who invented nsibidi, but which tribe is responsible for actually engraving the nsibidi on those grave stones - and it was the Igbos. Ejaghams introduced nsibidi but however, some southern Igbo groups (eg. arochukwu) also used the nsibidi writing system, which they carried along with them to the americas. The nsibidi writings on grave stones in america today are attributed to these Igbo slaves as the writers of those symbols, and not the efiks/ejaghams (even though the ejaghams might have been the originators). If not for these Igbo slaves, we would not have been hearing of the so-called strange markings on grave stones in virginia.

Also, at one time the Igbos in Virginia were so many, that Virginia was named 'new Eboeland'. The graveyard where the writings were found in is said to be the graveyard used for mass burial of the Igbo slaves of virginia. Mind you, that majority of Igbo slaves came from southern Igboland. The arochukwu people were very influential in the slave trade.

Succinctly put, the ejagham introduced nsibidi, but the Igbos took it and made it internationally known. Save for these Igbo slaves who took it to america and internationally, nsibidi would have been some nearly forgotten piece of history in the annals of man.

Some of you Igbos suffer from a misplaced sense of pride sometimes. I love how you think it is only the Igbos that were taken from the Bight of Biafra despite evidence proving the contrary. If you had taken time to open the second link, you would have seen that the markings on the grave stones have always been attributed to the Ejagham tribe. The first story I ever heard about those stones mentioned the Ejaghams as the engravers. Please stop trying so hard to rewrite history.

Thank you.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 9:29pm On May 03, 2015
ezeagu:


You seriously need to read things more carefully.

No, YOU read carefully.
Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 9:12pm On May 03, 2015
ezeagu:


Well, you need to read more carefully.

Please refer to my previous post and help yourself with the links there. Read the one below and rid yourself of your confusion.

http://ugrrquilt.hartcottagequilts.com/woods

The Igbo tribe is great enough. There is no need to steal the achievements of other tribes as their own.
Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 9:08pm On May 03, 2015
bigfrancis21:


The tribe taken out of bight of biafra was mostly Igbo, followed by the Ibibios/Efiks of Mokos, and much less Ijaws.

Research shows that at least 60% of AAs have Igbo blood running in them. That is the lowest amount of african americans who have Igbo blood running in them is 60%. The population of african americans today is estimated at 45 million people, 60% of those translates to 27 million AAs having Igbo blood (partial or full) running in them.

For African Americans in particular, the ethnic groups that make up them are mostly Igbo, Akan, Mandingo, and Kongo.

DNA testing evidence has proven this fact correct. DNA cannot lie. There are very very few DNA testing results pointing to Ibibio/Efik, in line with slave records kept that have shown over and over that Igbo were a majority taken out of Biafra. At one time, out of 37,000 slaves taken out of bight of biafra, 30,000 were Igbos.

Igbos were favoured mostly by the british/English slave traders and were shipped out the most by the english than the portuguese to english-speaking colonies, as you can see from the records below:



This explains why Igbo presence in the americas is felt mostly in English speaing countries today - Jamaica, US, Barbados, Belize, Trinidad and Tobago, Carriacou etc.

The table supplied proves nothing. Several tribes were taken along with the Igbos from the Bight of Biafra. Don't forget that earlier writings often grouped most of the tribes of SE as Igbo even when they were not.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/23267213?uid=3738720&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21106686753233

In the link above, you will find other tribes listed along with the Igbos as those taken out from the Bight of Biafra.

http://ugrrquilt.hartcottagequilts.com/woods

In the link above, the ideograms are rightly attributed to the Ejagham tribe of Cross River State.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 8:56pm On May 03, 2015
ezeagu:


Because a lot of the times the slaves ethnicity (although sometimes generalised) were noted. If you look up some books you will see the the main ethnic group from the Bight was Igbo.

Nsibidi is used by other Cross River groups like Ibibio, Efik, and as far as Idoma, etc. How can they not acknowledge its origins when the hats variations carry Ibibio names or the occasions when its used are Ibibio cultures like Ekpe? The hat spread out and was picked up by different Igbo groups as fashion, but the Aro people, Ohafia and other Cross River Igbo groups are not drawing or debating any cultures with Ibibio, Annang, Ekoi and other groups who they have connected with.

Nsibidi is not an Igbo creation. Please do your research properly.

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Culture / Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by TheReborn(f): 8:54pm On May 03, 2015
scholes0:
Bight of biafra does not just signify Igbo ancestry, but also Ejagham, Efik, Ijaw, Cameroonian, Gabonese etc
Also those ideograms actually belong to the Ekoi/Ejaghams and the Efiks. Although some eastern Igbo (Like Arochukwu) groups may have also used it, it actually wasn't their creation.

Please tell them. Nsibidi originated from the tribes of Cross River. It was adopted in Igboland, but it was not created by the Igbo. This is a silly misrepresentation that annoys one to no end. angry angry angry angry

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