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PoliticsWorld Leaders Gather In South Africa For Nelson Mandela Funeral by thinkdip(op): 8:32pm On Dec 09, 2013
JOHANNESBURG (AFP) – South Africa
struggled Monday to meet the unprecedented
logistical challenge of hosting close to 100
world leaders flying in from every corner of
the globe for the state funeral of freedom
icon Nelson Mandela.
“The world literally is coming to South
Africa,” said the government’s head of public
diplomacy, Clayson Monyela.
“I don’t think it has ever happened before,”
Monyela said of the wave of 91 leaders,
including US President Barack Obama, bearing
down on the country.
Nelson Mandela
Many will join the 80,000 people expected to
cram Tuesday into the FNB stadium in Soweto
to take part in a grand memorial service for
their inspirational first black president.
Reflecting the depth and breadth of Mandela’s
popularity, the event will see political foes
Obama and Cuban President Raul Castro share
the same stage in paying tribute to one of the
towering political figures of the 20th century.
South African President Jacob Zuma will make
the keynote address, and other speakers will
include UN Secretary Ban Ki-Moon and
Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff.
Four of Mandela’s adored grandchildren will
speak for his family, while neither his widow,
Graca Machel, nor his ex-wife Winne
Madikizela-Mandela are listed on the
programme.
The memorial service, in the venue where
Mandela made his last major public appearance
for the 2010 World Cup final, is seen as a final
chance for grieving South Africans to unite in
a mass celebration of his life ahead of the
more formal state funeral.
Some 120,000 people will be able to watch the
event on giant screens set up in three overflow
stadiums in Johannesburg.
‘You are never prepared enough’
Although Mandela had been critically ill for
months, the announcement of his death on
Thursday night still rocked a country that had
looked to his unassailable moral authority as a
comforting constant in a time of uncertain
social and economic change.
“I don’t think you are ever prepared enough,”
said Zelda la Grange, who was Mandela’s long-
time personal assistant both during and after
his presidency.
“We had prepared ourselves emotionally but
still we are overcome by this feeling of loss
and sadness,” La Grange said.
A single candle was lit in Mandela’s tiny prison
cell on Robben Island, where he spent the
harshest of his 27 years in apartheid jails,
before emerging to lead his country out of the
shadow of apartheid into a multi-racial
democracy.
The week-long observances will culminate
Sunday in Mandela’s burial at a family plot in
his boyhood home of Qunu in the Eastern Cape.
The government has sought to dissuade A-list
dignitaries from attending, citing Qunu’s rural
location, the lack of amenities and limited
space.
Ahead of the burial, Mandela’s body will lie in
state for three days from Wednesday in the
amphitheatre of the Union Buildings in
Pretoria where he was sworn in as president in
1994.
Each morning, his coffin will be borne through
the streets of the capital in a funeral cortege,
to give as many people as possible the chance
to pay their final respects.
11,000 troops mobilised
Around 11,000 troops have been mobilised to
ensure security and help with crowd control.
Despite the sudden influx of international
dignitaries and the compressed preparation
time, National Police spokesman Solomon
Makgale insisted that the security apparatus
could cope.
“Having so many heads of state is not a
security headache for us. We’ve learned over
the years,” Makgale said, adding that they
would be “working closely” with the foreign
leaders’ own security details.
As well as Obama and three previous
occupants of the White House, British Prime
Minister David Cameron, French President
Francois Hollande and Afghan President
Hamid Karzai were all on the guest list.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, who was
among the first to arrive, visited the Nelson
Mandela Foundation in Johannesburg where he
paid handsome tribute to a “giant for justice”
whose “mighty life” touched millions.
Parliament met in special session Monday, with
MPs carrying single red roses as they entered
the assembly building that was flanked by
giant portraits of Mandela in tribal dress and
as an elder statesman.
Opposition leader Helen Zille said every
politician had a duty to carry forward
Mandela’s ideals of justice and equality for all.
“He has handed the baton to us and we dare
not drop it,” Zille said.
Africa will be represented at the funeral by
Nigeria’s Goodluck Jonathan and more than a
dozen other heads of state and government.
Notable absentees include Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who cited high
travel and security costs, and Mandela’s
fellow Nobel peace laureate, the Dalai Lama,
who since 2009 has twice been denied a visa
for South Africa.
Talk show queen Oprah Winfrey and singer-
activist Bono, as well as British billionaire
Richard Branson and musician Peter Gabriel
were expected to be among the celebrity
mourners.
RomanceRe: Can You Fall For Someone You've Never Met? by thinkdip(m): 10:39pm On Dec 06, 2013
PoliticsRe: Your Favourite Nelson Mandela Quote by thinkdip(m): 10:35pm On Dec 06, 2013
PoliticsRe: Your Favourite Nelson Mandela Quote by thinkdip(m): 10:35pm On Dec 06, 2013
I have fought against white domination, and I
have fought against black domination. I have
cherished the ideal of a democratic and free
society in which all persons live together in
harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an
ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve.
But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am
prepared to die.
Politicslife Of The Great Icon Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela by thinkdip(op):
Rolihlahla Mandela was born into the Madiba
clan in Mvezo, Transkei, on July 18, 1918, to
Nonqaphi Nosekeni and Nkosi Mphakanyiswa
Gadla Mandela, principal counsellor to the
Acting King of the Thembu people, Jongintaba
Dalindyebo.
His father died when he was a child and the
young Rolihlahla became a ward of Jongintaba
at the Great Place in Mqhekezweni. Hearing
the elder’s stories of his ancestor’s valour
during the wars of resistance, he dreamed also of making his own contribution to the freedom struggle of his people.
He attended primary school in Qunu where his
teacher Miss Mdingane gave him the name
Nelson, in accordance with the custom to give
all school children “Christian” names.
He completed his Junior Certificate at
Clarkebury Boarding Institute and went on to
Healdtown, a Wesleyan secondary school of
some repute, where he matriculated.
Nelson Mandela began his studies for a
Bachelor of Arts Degree at the University
College of Fort Hare but did not complete the
degree there as he was expelled for joining in
a student protest. He completed his BA
through the University of South Africa and
went back to Fort Hare for his graduation in
1943.
On his return to the Great Place at
Mkhekezweni the King was furious and said if
he didn’t return to Fort Hare he would arrange wives for him and his cousin Justice. They ran away to Johannesburg instead arriving there in 1941. There he worked as a mine security
officer and after meeting Walter Sisulu, an
estate agent, who introduced him to Lazar
Sidelsky. He then did his articles through the
firm of attorneys Witkin Eidelman and
Sidelsky.
Meanwhile he began studying for an LLB at the University of the Witwatersrand. By his own admission he was a poor student and left the university in 1948 without graduating. He only started studying again through the University of London and also did not complete that degree.
In 1989, while in the last months of his
imprisonment, he obtained an LLB through the
University of South Africa. He graduated in
absentia at a ceremony in Cape Town.
Nelson Mandela, while increasingly politically
involved from 1942, only joined the African
National Congress in 1944 when he helped
formed the ANC Youth League.
In 1944 he married Walter Sisulu’s cousin
Evelyn Mase, a nurse. They had two sons
Madiba Thembekile ‘Thembi’ and Makgatho and two daughters both called Makaziwe, the first of whom died in infancy. They effectively separated in 1955 and divorced in 1958.
Nelson Mandela rose through the ranks of the
ANCYL and through its work the ANC adopted in 1949 a more radical mass-based policy, the Programme of Action.
In 1952 he was chosen at the National
Volunteer-in-Chief of the Defiance Campaign
with Maulvi Cachalia as his Deputy. This
campaign of civil disobedience against six
unjust laws was a joint programme between
the ANC and the South African Indian
Congress. He and 19 others were charged
under the Suppression of Communism Act for
their part in the campaign and sentenced to
nine months hard labour suspended for two
years.
A two-year diploma in law on top of his BA
allowed Nelson Mandela to practice law and in
August 1952 he and Oliver Tambo established
South Africa’s first black law firm, Mandela
and Tambo.
At the end of 1952 he was banned for the
first time. As a restricted person he was only
able to secretly watch as the Freedom Charter was adopted at Kliptown on 26 June 1955. Nelson Mandela was arrested in a country wide police swoop of 156 activists on 5 December 1955, which led to the 1956 Treason Trial. Men and women of all races found themselves in the dock in the marathon trial that only ended when the last 28 accused, including Mr.
Mandela were acquitted on 29 March 1961.
On 21 March 1960 police killed 69 unarmed
people in a protest at Sharpeville against the
pass laws. This led to the country’s first state
of emergency on 31 March and the banning of
the ANC and the Pan Africanist Congress on 8 April. Nelson Mandela and his colleagues in the Treason Trial were among the thousands
detained during the state of emergency.
During the trial on 14 June 1958 Nelson
Mandela married a social worker Winnie
Madikizela. They had two daughters Zenani
and Zindziswa. The couple divorced in 1996.
Days before the end of the Treason Trial
Nelson Mandela travelled to Pietermaritzburg
to speak at the All-in Africa Conference,
which resolved he should write to Prime
Minister Verwoerd requesting a non-racial
national convention, and to warn that should he not agree there would be a national strike
against South Africa becoming a republic. As
soon as he and his colleagues were acquitted in the Treason Trial Nelson Mandela went
underground and began planning a national
strike for 29, 30 and 31 March. In the face of a massive mobilization of state security the strike was called off early. In June 1961 he was asked to lead the armed struggle and
helped to establish Umkhonto weSizwe (Spear
of the Nation).
On 11 January 1962 using the adopted name
David Motsamayi, Nelson Mandela left South
Africa secretly. He travelled around Africa
and visited England to gain support for the
armed struggle. He received military training
in Morocco and Ethiopia and returned to
South Africa in July 1962. He was arrested in
a police roadblock outside Howick on 5 August while returning from KwaZulu-Natal where he briefed ANC President Chief Albert Luthuli about his trip. He was charged with leaving the country illegally and inciting workers to strike. He was convicted and sentenced to five years imprisonment which he began serving in Pretoria Local Prison. On 27 May 1963 he was transferred to Robben Island and returned to Pretoria on 12 June. Within a month police raided a secret hide-out in Rivonia used by ANC and Communist Party activists and several of his comrades were arrested.
In October 1963 Nelson Mandela joined nine
others on trial for sabotage in what became
known as the Rivonia Trial. Facing the death
penalty his words to the court at the end of
his famous ‘Speech from the Dock’ on 20 April 1964 became immortalized:
“I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have
cherished the ideal of a democratic and free
society in which all persons live together in
harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an
ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve.
But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am
prepared to die.”
On 11 June 1964 Nelson Mandela and seven
other accused Walter Sisulu, Ahmed
Kathrada, Govan Mbeki, Raymond Mhlaba,
Denis Goldberg, Elias Motsoaledi and Andrew
Mlangeni were convicted and the next day
were sentenced to life imprisonment. Denis
Goldberg was sent to Pretoria Prison because
he was white while the others went to Robben
Island. Nelson Mandela’s mother died in 1968 and his eldest son Thembi in 1969. He was not allowed to attend their funerals.
On 31 March 1982 Nelson Mandela was
transferred to Pollsmoor Prison in Cape Town
with Sisulu, Mhlaba and Mlangeni. Kathrada
joined them in October. When he returned to
the prison in November 1985 after prostate
surgery Nelson Mandela was held alone.
Justice Minister Kobie Coetsee had visited him in hospital. Later Nelson Mandela initiated talks about an ultimate meeting between the apartheid government and the ANC.
In 1988 he was treated for Tuberculosis and
was transferred on 7 December 1988 to a
house at Victor Verster Prison near Paarl. He
was released from its gates on Sunday 11
February 1990, nine days after the unbanning
of the ANC and the PAC and nearly four
months after the release of the remaining
Rivonia comrades. Throughout his imprisonment he had rejected at least three conditional offers of release.
Nelson Mandela immersed himself into official talks to end white minority rule and in 1991 was elected ANC President to replace his ailing friend Oliver Tambo. In 1993 he and
President FW de Klerk jointly won the Nobel
Peace Prize and on 27 April 1994 he voted for
the first time in his life.
On 10 May 1994 he was inaugurated South
Africa’s first democratically elected
President. On his 80th birthday in 1998 he
married Graça Machel, his third wife.
True to his promise Nelson Mandela stepped
down in 1999 after one term as President. He
continued to work with the Nelson Mandela
Children’s Fund he set up in 1995 and
established the Nelson Mandela Foundation
and The Mandela-Rhodes Foundation.
In April 2007 his grandson Mandla Mandela
became head of the Mvezo Traditional Council
at a ceremony at the Mvezo Great Place.
Nelson Mandela never wavered in his devotion
to democracy, equality and learning. Despite
terrible provocation, he never answered racism with racism. His life has been an inspiration to all who are oppressed and deprived, to all who are opposed to oppression and deprivation.
www.nelsonmandela.org/content/page/biography

PoliticsRe: Oshiomhole Donates N2m To 'Go And Die' Widow by thinkdip(m): 2:54pm On Dec 02, 2013
PoliticsRe: Oshiomhole Donates N2m To Widow by thinkdip(op): 2:52pm On Dec 02, 2013
oluwashaddow: words are like egg,when it drops n break, you cannot pick or pack it together but do ur best to clean it up before it turns to a total mess,and I give kudos to oshio baba for managing the situation well..we all have said somethings at a point in our lives dat we regret alot bt it only takes courage to own up to such....sorry is d most difficult word to say.......

How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the
aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will have been all of these.
Kudos
PoliticsOshiomhole Donates N2m To Widow by thinkdip(op): 1:50pm On Dec 02, 2013
Gov. Adams Oshiomhole of Edo on Monday
donated two million naira to a widow he
allegedly insulted while on an inspection tour
of the state.
The widow, Mrs Joy Ifije, who was invited to
the Edo Government House by the governor,
was also offered automatic employment by
Oshiomhole.
Oshiomhole had invited the widow to
personally apologise to her over his
uncomplimentary remark that had generated
controversies in the conventional and social
media in the last few weeks.
‘’ Let me apologise to you for the way I spoke
to you, I am very sorry about the statement.
“I have also realised that even in anger, one
could still achieve the same result that he set
out to without provocative outburst.
‘’ I apologise from the bottom of my heart, but
sometimes you get angry when people
compromise your efforts.’’
He said that government was trying to change
the face of the state capital by doing its best
to make the city beautiful.
The governor said that it was frustrating and
bad for some people to truncate government
efforts.
He stressed that trading on the road and walk
ways could hinder free flow of traffic as well
as cause accidents.
Oshiomhole, therefore, appeal to the widow to
join in the campaign against road and walkways
trading.
The governor said that exposing consumables
to unhygienic sanitary conditions could also
cause ”disease and pose dangerous health
hazards to humans”.
Oshiomhole, who also announced the automatic
employment to the widow, said that the
employment would help her ease the burden of
widowhood and give her children good and
proper education.
He further assured the widow that his family
would assist the widow’s second child in
furthering his education, while also appealing
to her to resist the temptation of law
breaking.
The widow had earlier apologised to the
governor for her action, saying ‘’ I know I was
wrong, that was why I quickly knelt down to
beg when I realised I was face to face with
the Governor’’.
She promised to work with the state
government in its campaign against street
trading and obstruction.
She also promised to make judicious use of the
money donated to her by the governor.
Source:www.punchng.com/news/oshiomhole-donates-n2m-to-widow/
PoliticsNASU Plans To Join ASUU Strike by thinkdip(op): 10:24am On Nov 29, 2013
Non academic employees in the
universities are warming up for
industrial action as a fall out of the
resolution of the ASUU strike.
They took the decision during the
delegates conference in Owerri
under the banner of the Non
Academic Staff Union ((NASU). The
communique was signed by Deputy
President/Chairman of the Universities
Trade Group, Comrade Sunday
Adeyemi and the Deputy General
Secretary, Comrade F.J Ajayi.
The union said it would go on strike
the moment a negative action is
directed at its members outside the
original agreement reached in the
2009 Federal Government NASU
agreement.
NASU also expressed worry that its
2009 agreement with the Federal
Government was due for review
since June, 2012, noting that the non-
implementation of the full content of
the FG/University based Union 2009
agreement is a political strategy aimed
at mitigating early review of the
agreement.
The Union urged President Goodluck
Jonathan to put necessary machinery
in motion to commence the upward
review of the agreement within the
next three months.
The Council in session also warned the
Federal Government not to create
more crisis it cannot manage in the
process of resolving the ASUU strike,
adding that some of its members,
including NAAT and SSANU who were
formerly members of the Interim
Monitoring Committee set up by the
Federal Government in October 23,
2013 to confirm the initial payment
made to the Universities by the
Federal Government, have been
excluded.
The Union also sympathised with the
family of the late Professor Festus
Iyayi who it noted had been in the
struggle for a positive change in the
nation’s education.
campusportal.com.ng/education/nasu-plans-solidarity-strike-support-ASUU/8318/
PoliticsASUU STRIKE: Ekiti Student Seek Divine Intervention by thinkdip(op): 8:34am On Nov 29, 2013
Students of Ekiti State
origin in tertiary institutions embarked
on marathon prayers to seek divine
intervention in the five- month old
strike by the members of the
Academic Staff Union of Nigerian
Universities, ASUU.
The students, who were drawn from
the various institutions of higher
learning converged at Lady Jibowu
Hall, Ekiti Government House where
they held the prayer session
The session had in attendance, the
state’s Deputy Governor, Professor
Modupe Adelabu and some clerics.
Adelabu in her remarks cautioned the
students against taking to the streets
and engaging in illegal acts that could
lead to violence and disruption of
peace in the state.
She noted that they did the right thing
by taking their petition to God. She
said it was unfortunate that both
parties to the dispute – ASUU and the
Federal Government – had remained
adamant despite interventions from
well-meaning Nigerians.
The number two citizen of the state
urged the students not to relent in
their regular prayer for divine
intervention, saying that the death of
Prof Festus Iyayi, a frontline ASUU
member in an auto-crash along the
Abuja-Lokoja Road introduced another
twist to the lingering dispute.
Mrs Adelabu, who expressed the hope
that the prayers of the students
would yield the desired result in a
matter of days, counseled the
undergraduates against engaging in
activities that could jeopardize their
future.
Mrs Adelabu regretted that the
situation which keeps them at home in
the past few months was not their
own making and that their teachers
did not deliberately embark on the
strike to put the students’ future at
stake.
According to her, the lecturers were
only pressing for their rights and
other logistics that will improve the
facilities in the nation’s citadel of
leaning and to make them world
standard.
Advising the students to engage
themselves in profitable ventures, she
also urged them not to completely
abandon their studies but constantly
review their lecture notes in
preparation for the re-opening of the
varsities.
Pastor John Aladete in his sermon at
the prayer session urged the students
not to be daunted by their present
predicament as a result of the
protracted ASUU strike.
The cleric charged them to be
hopeful with an assurance that God
will be with them irrespective of the
present development. He said God has
designed their generation to bring the
desired change needed by the
country.
The students were later led into
series of prayer sessions by some
clerics including the Government
House Chaplain, Rev. Fr. Anthony
Famuagun, Pastor Tunde Akinola of
the Redeemed Christian Church of
God (RCCG), the Senior Special
Assistant to the Governor on Youths,
Pastor Mike Awopetu and Special
Assistant to the Governor on Student
Affairs,Mr Adeoye Aribasoye.
Source:www.vanguardngr.com/2013/11/ASUU-strike-ekiti-students-seek-divine-intervention/
PhonesRe: Finally, BBM 8.0.0.94 Is Here!!! by thinkdip(m): 10:05pm On Nov 27, 2013
cumpaddre: Ah dun lyk it.
OMG I shud've read the reviews on app world b4 rushing to download dat trash, its hanging my damn fone, I'm using a 9800, does any1 have an idea where I can download my old version backhuh
Same here too.., got to restart my phone several times bt still hanging
PoliticsSHOCKING: Boko Haram ‘shoots Man In The Head For Refusing To Deny Christ’ by thinkdip(op): 12:43pm On Nov 22, 2013
This man, Habila Adamu, was shot in his
head after he refused to deny Christ
by Boko Haram militants in Nigeria. But
he survived and he shared his
experience with Foreign Christain
website, iPostChristainPost.com
Boko Haram is an Islamic jihadist
militant organization based in the
northeast Nigeria. The group came to
Adamu because he is a Christian.
“They wanted me to deny Jesus. They
want to ‘Islamitize’ Nigeria. That is why
they are targeting Christians,” he said
in a CBN video posted on YouTube.
“If you agree to deny your faith you
will be safe. If you don’t agree to do
it, they will kill you,” he added. And that
is how he answered why he chose to
stand his ground and refused to deny
Christ.
“What can separate us from the love
of Christ? Is it hardship? Is it
persecution? Is it sword? No. Nothing
can separate us from the love of
Christ,” he said.
“Christ did something for me and all
the people in the world. We are
sinners! We are condemned criminals!
We are supposed to die! But He took
all these burdens! He paid for our
debts! He died for us! Why can I not
submit to Jesus? That is what I did. I
stood for him!”
www.ynaija.com/shocking-boko-haram-shoots-man-in-the-head-for-refusing-to-deny-christ-watch/

Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Treat The Jehovah Witnesses Like A Plague by thinkdip(m): 9:37pm On Nov 21, 2013
Ozichim: JW is full of error see how the man cleverly avoided the truth,
From this passage; there nothing hidden about the heaven and those that will be in heaven but they look for reason to believe error.

Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Revelation 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


If you care for the truth read this. JW have already resolved to believe what they want to believe. Only God’s mercy will deliver some of them. Note that Thessalonians are not Jews but see what Paul told them.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

JW looks for places to use to confuse some ignorant and unfortunate once.
God bless you so much my bro. For that piece of spirited words,i wish they'll go and read how JWs came all about..and they'll be stunned...they hate singing any other christian gathering songs..(Praise,worship)..but worldly songs sound great in their hear and they sing it with utmost joy. They are like the priest of the old days who oppose Jesus teaching. They know the best in their eye..they are the ones the bible prophesied about carrying false teaching..they Don't also believe in resurection.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Treat The Jehovah Witnesses Like A Plague by thinkdip(m): 3:41pm On Nov 21, 2013
TroGunn: Why would anyone be offended by such a great post!

Let me respond to your points on JWs.

"only 144,000 would go to heaven while the rest will reign on earth, clearly this is false as Jesus said that those who believed in him will inherit the kingdom of heaven"

From what the Bible says, clearly some righteous would go to heaven and others would be on earth.

Prove 2:21 - "For the upright will live in the land And the blameless will remain in it"

Psalm 37:10, 11 - "For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace"

Matt 5:5 - "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth".

So clearly righteous will posses the earth. However, some ( little flock) will go to heaven and become part of Kingdom as rulers.

Matt 5:10 - "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".

Luke 12:32 - "Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom."

Matt 19:28 - "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel".

Rev 14:3 - "And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth"

Revelation 20:6 - "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years".

Expectedly those ruling would be much fewer compared to billions on the earth. So 144,000 number given by the Bible is not unreasonable, considering they also have millions of angels at their service - enough to effectively rule over the righteous on earth.

"Jesus went to 'arrange' things in heaven, throwing Satan down in 1914. This presupposes a disorganized and imperfect heaven"

The Bible clearly shows that Satan was in heaven and had to be thrown out at some point. The Bible says what it says!

Rev 12:7-10 "Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. 10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: 7Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. 10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down".

Notice how that hurling out of Satan from heaven is also associated Christ's assumption of kingly power, in verse 10- “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah"

1914 date is arrived at based on detailed Bible chronology. You may read about it here--> http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006521#h=14:0-20:610

"Having studied the biblical languages, especially NT Greek grammar, i can boldly say that the NWT is an eccentric version used to manipulate the gullible mentality of blind witnesses"

NWT is just a Bible translation that strives to be as close to the original writings as possible, without the coloration of extra-biblical teachings and ideas. I'll wait for you to show instances where you think the NWT mistranslated from the original languages.
Bt Jesus said to Nicodamus: verily verily i say unto you, except a man is born of water and of the spirit he can not enter the kingdom of God...please i need explanation on these
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Treat The Jehovah Witnesses Like A Plague by thinkdip(m): 12:05pm On Nov 21, 2013
Ishsoph: You are just opposite of your name! U mean after u lied on the bible in Isaiah 9:6 that Jesus is almighty God and TruGUNN went out of the way to prove u a liar with several quotations from the bible all u could come up with is the above? The prophesy of Isaiah quoted by Jesus at Mathew 13:14 "...and toward them(the pharisees) the prophesy of Isaiah is having fullfilment, whch says, 'by hearing you will hear but by no means get the sense of it, and, looking, you will look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back, and I heal them'" couldnt hav had a better fullfilment in ur case. Pathetic!
I actually thought u are a christian but know i know what's the issue...it was never your fault. just study your bible by your self...
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Treat The Jehovah Witnesses Like A Plague by thinkdip(m): 10:48pm On Nov 20, 2013
TroGunn: Isaiah 9:6 - "For a child will be born for us, a son will be given to us, and the government will be on His shoulders. He will be named Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."

Jesus is called "Mighty God", still doesn't make him Almighty God or equal to Almighty God Jehovah.

Hebrew word for "god" means "powerful one" so technically calling Christ Mighty God is correct because he's been given great authority by his Father. Same idea in John 1:1. But the Bible clearly explains that Christ is still subordinate to his Father - they are not equals.

1 Cor 15: 25-28: "For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all".


Same with Jesus being called Eternal Father - he's older than us all and is head of the congregation, so fits the description. B ut God is above him.

1 Cor 11:3 - "But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God".


Never was Christ ever equal to God, his Father as shown in the Bible below:


Christ pre-coming to Earth, in heaven : Christ subordinate, obeys his Father's instruction to sit at his right hand.

Psalms 110:1 "Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put thine enemies as footstool of thy feet".
Jesus himself confirmed that this scripture, written by David was about him - Matt 22:42-46. Also confirms Christ is a different person to God.

Christ on Earth : Christ is clearly lower than God. Obeys him, prays to him, does nothing unless God authorises. Jesus pointedly said God, his Father is greater. Shows us excellent example of humility and obedience to God.

John 14:28 - " “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I."

John 12:49 "I don't speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it".

Christ after Earth, in heaven : After returning too heaven, Jesus position was even higher than before he came to earth. ( Also showing that he was below God before coming to earth).

Phillipians 2:9 - "Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name".

Still this most exalted position was below God. He continued subordinate to God.

1 Cor 15: 25-28: For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.”c Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

Jesus returns to God right hand till time is given by God to subdue enemies, as seen by Stephen in a vision. Also firms up that God and Christ are two distinct persons.

Acts 7:55-56 - “But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God, and said, 'Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!'.”
Eternal Father nko? U Don't know what u r saying oo
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Treat The Jehovah Witnesses Like A Plague by thinkdip(m): 10:12pm On Nov 20, 2013
donroxy: This thread is embarrasing !!!

I still support the JWs concept of God ......

Jesus being God who come in the flesh is one of those fallacy that make people like LogicBoy to laugh on you folk !!!


Jesus can't be God, so JW is right on this one .. IMHO !!!
Please read the prophecy about him in isaiah 9:6
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Treat The Jehovah Witnesses Like A Plague by thinkdip(m): 10:07pm On Nov 20, 2013
JMAN05: Jesus is not God almighty. this has been discussed between me and you on the other thread. so that cant cure your sickness. try again.

calling adsonstone and asking such a question is a plea to recover your fallen condition of despair. this cant help you. If he says no, that is are claim until proven. I have proven it to you, but you remain blind. I have nt discussed it with adsonstone.

I can as well ask him, when catholics say that there is something like purgatory, is it true? what do you think he will answer? but will your head accept it as true, even though he has proven it to you?

If he says purgatory is wrong teaching, I will concur with that.

adsonstone is not here to support our teaching, neither did he claim to be a witness. he is just, as a neutral person, exposing your unreasonable approach to matters. This is your usual approach to campaign for support. try another option, we ve been acquainted with this one.
Go and read isaiah 9:6...and u'll know if he's referred to the Almighty God
Nairaland GeneralRe: Ever Re-read Your Posts And Felt Embarassed? by thinkdip(m): 7:40pm On Nov 17, 2013
old topic making FP again.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Ever Re-read Your Posts And Felt Embarassed? by thinkdip(m): 7:37pm On Nov 17, 2013
Shame...old topic making FP again.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Ever Re-read Your Posts And Felt Embarassed? by thinkdip(m): 7:37pm On Nov 17, 2013
Shame...old thread making FP again.
PoliticsRe: Anambra: INEC Reschedules Election In 65 Wards by thinkdip(m): 8:51pm On Nov 16, 2013
shachris: angry Bad formatting and no media source.
Should u copy and paste my post?
PoliticsRe: Anambra: INEC Reschedules Election In 65 Wards by thinkdip(m): 8:43pm On Nov 16, 2013
PoliticsAnambra: INEC Reschedules Voting In 65 Wards To Sunday by thinkdip(op): 8:32pm On Nov 16, 2013
The Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) has rescheduled election in 65 polling units in Obosi in Idemili North Local Government Area for Sunday.

Voting could not hold in the wards due to late arrival of materials and other logistics challenges.

Electoral Commissioner (REC) Prof Chukwuemeka Onukogu made the announcement in a statement issued in Awka on Saturday.

The statement, signed by the Public Relations Officer Frank Egbo said the rescheduling was due to “challenges of logistics” in the areas.

“Any inconveniences are highly regretted,” the statement added.

Onukogu said the rescheduled election will hold at Obosi Registration Area, Ward 07.

The election will hold between 8am and 12.30pm.

INEC urged all parties to get ready for the poll.

The disenfranchisement of voters marred the election in Idemili North and South Local Government Areas due to lack of voting materials, incomplete voters’ registers, and lack results sheets.

In centres where over 600 people registered, only about 100 or less found their names in the registers.

Some of the voters were told that additional list containing more names of registered persons would be brought, but none came.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/anambra-inec-reschedules-election-65-wards/
PoliticsRe: ASUU And FG Who Is To Be Blamed For This Strike ? by thinkdip(m): 5:58pm On Oct 17, 2013
I blame you, for causing wahala on this site.,you are to be blame for the strike.
Thank God 73 to comment
PoliticsRe: ASUU And FG Who Is To Be Blamed For This Strike ? by thinkdip(m): 5:58pm On Oct 17, 2013
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PoliticsFormer Ondo State Gov Agagu Is Dead by thinkdip(op): 1:06am On Sep 14, 2013
THE immediate past governor of Ondo State,
Dr. Olusegun Kokumo Agagu is dead.
Dr. Agagu died yesterday afternoon,less than
24 hours after returning from a trip to United
States. He was aged 65.
He reportedly slumped and died in his House in
Ibadan, Oyo State while another source said
that he died in his Ikoyi residence, in Lagos.
The late Dr Agagu was to meet with President
Goodluck Jonathan next week along with some
elders of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP,
from the South West on the lingering crisis in
the Party.
The state Chairman of the PDP, Ebenezer
Alabi yesterday confirmed the death of Dr
Agagu.
Alabi said “We spoke extensively by 10am
today, we even shared jokes.”
Dr Agagu was born 16 February, 1948 at Iju
Odo in Okipipupa local government area of the
state.
He was elected Governor of Ondo State from
29 May, 2003 until February 2009.
He commenced his elementary education at St.
Luke’s Anglican School, now known as St. Paul’s
Anglican School Okitipupa, in 1954. In January
1958, he moved to live with his cousin, Edward
Fagbohun in Ibadan, Oyo state where he
continued his primary education at Ebenezer
African Church School, Oke-Ado, Ibadan.
He continued his primary education in Kano in
1959 at Ebenezer Methodist School and
Baptist Primary School Sabon-Gari, Kano
State but came back
to Ebenezer African Church School, Ibadan
where he completed his primary education in
1960. Thereafter, he was in Ibadan Grammar
School between January 1961 and 1967 where
he passed his West African School Certificate
and the Higher School Certificate
examinations.
He was admitted into the University of Ibadan
in 1968 to study Botany but later changed to
Geology in which he graduated with a B.Sc.
(Hons) degree in Second Class Upper Division,
in 1971.
Agagu went to the University of Texas
between 1973 and 1974 for his Masters
degree in Geology. Returning to Nigeria, he
obtained a Ph.D degree in Petroleum Geology
from the University of Ibadan in 1978.
Agagu was appointed by President Olusegun
Obasanjo as Minister of Aviation in 1999.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/09/former-ondo-state-gov-agagu-is-dead/#sthash.YpHXCTUg.dpuf
Career10 Mistakes People Make With Unemployment And Looking For A Job by thinkdip(op): 5:12pm On Sep 02, 2013
1. Think they will never find another a job
again so they convey desperation rather than
confidence (it shows).
2. Minimize all the skills they have to offer a
new employer.
3. Allow feelings of hopelessness/despair (it's
only natural) to paralyze them from
rebounding.
4. Forget their network of family and friends,
etc, are the best source for referrals.
5. Don't hunt enough (looking for a job should
be a full time job in itself ~ put in the time).
6. Take a closed door, "no" answer or not being
chosen for a position too personally.
7. Don't take care of themselves (get enough
sleep, eat right, exercise, etc).
8. Give in to bitterness and anger (it's not
your loved ones fault that you lost your job).
9. Overlook sharpening skills or learning new
ones.
10. Forget there are many opportunities online.
SportsOzil Undergoes Arsenal Medical After Agreeing Personal Terms by thinkdip(op): 1:19pm On Sep 02, 2013
Ozil undergoes Arsenal medical after. agreeing personal terms
. The Gunners have agreed a club-record £40
million fee for the Germany international ªnd will complete the deal when formalities are
completed
Mesut Ozil is undergoing
an Arsenal medical i̅n Germany after agreeing
personal terms with the
club, Goal can reveal.
The Germany international
will become the Gunners' club-record signing
when the formalities of the £40 million deal αяε̲ completed later on Monday.
Goal understands Ozil has been given the green
Light by Arsenal to take his medical tests in
Germany, as he is with the national team ahead
of their World Cup qualifiers this weekend.
Sources have said
that Arsenal’s
record-breaking
transfer has now
been agreed
following detailed
negotiations with
the player's
representatives
over the terms of
the contract.
Goal exclusively
revealed on Sunday
that the London
club were i̅n advanced talks
with Real †ȍ capture Ozil for £40m and that the deal hinged
upon convincing the player to move to north
London.
The breakthrough in talks late on Monday
morning means Ozil will now join Arsenal in a
deal that more than doubles their previous
record transfer outlay.
As revealed by Goal, goalkeeper Emiliano Viviano
has already had a medical, which he passed on
Monday morning, and has agreed the terms of a
season-long loan from Palermo. Arsenal are also
working on a loan deal for Chelsea striker Demba
Ba and are still in the running to capture Angel
Di Maria, also from Real, for £25.8m.
Wenger turned his
attention to Real
Madrid’s battery
of elite attackers
after it became
increasingly clear
that Gareth Bale
was set for a
world-record
£86m move to
Spain.
The Gunners tabled
a £25.6m bid for
Di Maria last week
and are still
waiting to  from Real if it has
been accepted. The
Argentine winger
has begun the
season in
impressive form
and is reluctant †ȍ cut his ties with
the Bernabeu.
However, Ozil was
left on the bench for Real’s 3-1 win on Sunday
after being substituted during the 1-0 win at
Granada six days previously, which he reacted †ȍ By storming down the tunnel and onto the team
bus.
Asked about overlooking Ozil in favour of Di
Maria on Sunday, Ancelotti said: “It’s to be
expected that he’s not happy. I don’t like players
who are happy to be on the bench. It was a
football decision to play Di Maria, who is playing
well and with great intensity
CareerRe: 8 Quotes To Help You Turn Fear Into success by thinkdip(op): 10:36pm On Sep 01, 2013
Queendo: inspiring write up. tanx
You are welcome
Career8 Quotes To Help You Turn Fear Into success by thinkdip(op):
When offering career advice to young
professionals and entrepreneurs, the two
things that always top my list are to find a
mentor and to read voraciously. Throughout
the course of my life, I have been blessed with
multiple mentors -- mostly teachers,
professors, bosses or colleagues. In addition, I
have gathered useful advice from reading, and
observing the actions of individuals who I
identify as some of the world’s best leaders,
both past and present. The following are 8
notable quotes from these “leaders” that have
inspired me and helped to shape my principles
as a business owner.
1 “Develop success from failures.
Discouragement and failure are two of the
surest stepping stones to success.” – Dale
Carnegie
2 "There are only two ways to live life. One is
as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as
though everything is." – Albert Einstein
3 "Do not look for approval except for the
consciousness of doing your best." – Andrew
Carnegie
4 "The true measure of a person is how they
treat someone who can do him absolutely no
good." – Samuel Johnson
5 "You've got to be very careful if you don't
know where you are going because you might
not get there." – Yogi Berra
6 “Expect more than others think possible.” –
Howard Schultz
7 "If people aren't calling you crazy, you
aren't thinking big enough." – Richard
Branson
8 “Never, never, never give up.” – Winston
Churchill
EducationRe: Anyone Studying In National Open University(noun) by thinkdip(op): 3:17am On Aug 31, 2013
Mehlena: der ar no lectures basically except facilitations on weekends usually friday nd saturdays, course materials are given to studnts to study on their own, u do ur tests online and also ur e-exams buh d written exams is nt done online. Thr r usually minimum of 2 semesters in a year dependin on d school's calender. Any ting else??
Yes, thanks since you know more on what i need, i thinks its of a best factor if i can talk †ȍ you more privately, mayb you can Pm me †ȍ know how †ȍ go about meeting or talking †ȍ you, thanks a bunch

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