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another one is about to bite the dust

that guy is a thief

hypocrisy is when you believe that amaechi is a thief because wike said so, but wnt believe when amaechi called wike a thief.

Rossikk:
So Mogadishu is now better than Lagos, Abuja, Calabar etc in your dull head. Village otondo with internet access.

nigerian stupidity sometimes amazes me.

Rossikk:
Go around Nigeria and see the number of proper houses, roads, schools, vehicles, hospitals, airports etc, that exist in their MILLIONS compared to the thatched huts, footpaths, and bicycles that were the norm under British rule. YOU NEED TO GET OUT MORE. WE HAVE MADE SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS SINCE INDEPENDENCE. Heck a guy like you even now gets to be among the over 100 million Nigerians with mobile phones, and not needing to use the town crier, like in the days of colonial rule, when telephones were unheard of for 99.9% of the population.

i think the problem is nigerians will never appriciate what belongs to them. May be because they see the infrastures everyday. .....Nigeria is a beautiful country.. We have the good and the bad side. but then, its the same with every country of the world.

im guessing he would need the support of the zoo.... Shiii

liberty300:
you make more sense when you're not talking

mumu

awon omo hiboe sha...
Anything to massage their gargantuan ego..

See this one dey pull stat from butthole... Shiii

FOLYKAZE:
There is no need going crazy. If there is something you dont understand, just ask me pls.




Yes, when thunder strike, that is Sango manifesting in nature. Well actually, the anthropomorphization of Lightning and thunder is what Yoruba spiritualist call Sango.

I have a better explanation here:

https://www.nairaland.com/1447731 /renounce-atheism-agnosticism /5#18327019



lol.

Allegorical accounts shouldn't be taken literally. Even some christians would agree that the creation account in genesis and some accounts in the bible shouldn't be taken literary. I back then when I enjoy reading bible decode that the tree of life in the garden of eden is 'intelligence' in the real sense and not literary a tree.

Allegorical, figurative, anthropomorphization and personification are adopted in Yoruba culture. Though the account of how man came to be or the universe are depited as work of man but those men are personification of natural entity. In Scientic/Naturalistic Pantheism identify Deity in Natural entities. Therefore, the deities which are been worshipped and revered and depited as human are simply personification of Natural entities.

In the creation account of the Yoruba people, Yemoja is the icy comet which serve as the source of water. She gave birth to life, vegetation, fresh water, wealth and lots more.

Obatala built the universe. He is personification of the light from the big bang.

Oduduwa represent matter.

So in the account of Ogun, we were told that Ogun moulded the bone of man. Decoding the account, Ogun represent everything metalic. Now, science states that Calcium is what makes bone. However, Calcium as it is known is a metalic chemical element. Therefore we conclude that Calcium been a metalic element is/was personifed as Ogun - the deity.



Firstly, how can a reasonable person disblieve in the existence of God? Well I think God needs to be defined here.

If you define a God as a supernatural person who created the universe and lives in the sky. This I dont believe in.

Nevertheless, we need to be realsitic with ourselves about what God is.

John 10:34, we men are Gods.

Exodus 22:28 Judges are refered to as God.

Gen 3:22 holds that have a moral potential is a quality of a divine or been God.

Now tell me how those Gods listed doesnt exist.

Let me move away from christianity.

Shakti is female principle of Energy. It is personification of Energy. She is a supreme God in Shaktism.

Brahman though depicted as deity in hindi philosophy but we know Brahman is what we call reality

Maya is devil in Hinduism but he is illusion.

So will you conclude those Deties do not exist?

You might well when you view them literally but when we explain in detail what these Gods are, disblieving in them is the greatest insanity.

So to your question, Yes, I believe God exist but not as Human.

I dont believe Jehovah is a human living in the sky.

I dont believe Allah is a human.

I dont believe Yemoja is a woman with long breast.

I dont believe Zeus is a man.

However, I believe Jehovah is a volcanic eruption which the middle eastern do not understand much.

I believe Iustitia/lady justice which is a greek goddess is not a lady but deification of Law and Justice.


I am an atheist. Spiritual atheist to be specific. I tend to define God and identify it with a natural entity. Therefore I posit that God does exist.

hmmm you sound like a budhist to me.

Well, i cannot tell you what to call yourself or how to define your self...but i think you should remove the atheist from it. kinda contradictory, if you just believe in the teachings of these gods and not them, spiritual atheist would have made more sense like my friend that calls himself christian atheist....

Perhap. Just a spiritualist would have made more sense... Atheist that believes in god/s is just wrong...totally against the definition atheism.

FOLYKAZE:
The gods and energy are the samethings. Just that the former is revered as divine entity while the latter is mere object in our surroundings. I think he difference lies in Scientifical pantheism and Naturalism.

A good example is Ogun. I have on this thread interpreted Ogun to be the scientifical entity called Iron which in the spiritual sense is a renowed deity (Orisa) among the Yoruba people. I madde my conclusion from the allegorical stories. Ogun moulded the bone of human in his workshop. Calcium is a metalic chemical element which makes up the bone. Do you see the correlation?

Science sees Iron which is a chemical element. Spiritualism go far deep in evaluating the divinity of this element which brought about worshiping of it as a God/gods.

So the question is what makes this things divine? Why is river a common entity but is been worship by some people? At what point does an entity gain a divinity statues? The Sun is ever in the sky, it is an object of worship to some people and natural entity to some.

This puts an end to the question on existence of God/gods.

Sango is lightening/thunder and an historical King in Yoruba kingdom. He represent Justice and rule of law. He does exist Yes. Out there is a lightning strike. It is natural occurence to science but in spiritualism, there is a divinity in it. It is very conscious.

sorry. Still trying to understand you without going crazy...


What you are try to say is, you believe that if thunder strikes anywhere now, its sango at work or it just represent what sango stood for?
And you also believe ogun moulded human bones like christians believe that god created humans?

Inshort, you believe gods exist right and each an everyone of em stood for something?

hyfr:
Is only an igbo man that will have the heart to take such a risk. Those set of people are bold and courageous tho. Maybe that's why they're making it.

lmao...heart to be a criminal... Gerarahia
is this some kinda joke?

it takes brain and hardwork to succeed...

CabbieAC:
https://gifgifs.com/res/1015/5624fe7278875174396825.gif

buhahahahahahah

IGBOPRINCE:
no be by force, drop our names and we shall free you like others then term you non igbo. Lol

How do you expects a yoruba man to claimed akoko edo? When those people re silent like they don't exists in nigeria. You can't compared them with ika people.


You said, yorubas and benin speaks somehow the same languages?
Which of the benin languages? The oredos or the esan or the auchi or the okadas , pls which one is related to yoruba language there?

Let me call my friend to slap your face now.

i believe you did comprehension in school.... Try to read and understand before you click quote button... I said its easy to understand bini language once you understand yoruba... I didnt say you will understand the language cos you know how to speak yoruba... Can u spot the difference? Dnt be fooled by my grammar nigger...

Lol, so, because they bear igbo names means they are igbos and they have to drop their names for what exactly? Shiii
I guess those itsekiris that bear yoruba names should first drop their names or they are yorubas by force...
Ho rotimi amaechi is definitely a yoruba man... ...

omonnakoda:
They are very wicked and they lie a lot .One of them said Orji Uzor Kalu is so rich and his money was too much so at some point he CBN in Nigeria could not cope and they begged,begged him to take his money to the World Bank. In the end they had to share it between World Bank and IMF

gerarahere mehnu

omonnakoda:
So why do they keep claiming him na? Yibbo people sef

there was a thread on it on nairaland sometimes ago self, come see how Igbo people dey curse the poor man like say na by force to be Igbo

omonnakoda:
Sunday Oliseh denied them
I have never heard anyone deny Yoruba sha

the video is on youtube nw... He said he is ika man and he is not igbo at all.

IGBOPRINCE:
it s not a force to be igbos my dear, but we need to knocks you down for being a fool, if a python said he s not cobra but they both know they crawled like snakes and that makes them a snake's family but different names.

Ikwerre is a dialect, ngwa is a dialect, etche is a dialect but belongs to a class of igbo ethnicity.
And that s why yorubas and ijaws called them igbo?

Ngwa ,ezzi and nsuka dialects is not even clearer than ikwerre neither intelligible than etche, but they re igbos.

We re not forcing them. But they shouldn't change history because biafra lost the war.

this people re irredeemable.
the truth must prevail though.
Bia this one hopeAtHand is silence, hope insogbu adi ro?


Or re you now tired of fighting?

flawed logic...
Dolphin or seal swims like a fish, it does everything fish does, that doesnt make dolphin a fish.

Ikwere people are not animals that cannot define their identity, they are humans.. Have history together doesnt give u the right to define their identity.

Yorubas and benin have history together. Names, food, etc.
Even bini language is quite easy to understand once you understand yoruba. There are clans in benins like akoko edo that see themselves as yorubas
But you will never see a yoruba man try to define binis identity cos we are majority... We allow them to define who or what they are themself...

Why is that so hard for igbos to do? Why do they want to dominate and define everyones identity?
ImagIne kalu c
alLing urhobo and itsekiri igbos, biko from where to where?
Why did igbo crucified oliseh cos he doesnt want to be call igbo... There was dis chinyere girl that denied her igboness on project fame sometimes ago, igbos crucified the poor girl... Ikwere man, ika man, doesnt want to be igbo, stop calling them what they dnt want to be called... let them be. Why is that so hard?

Truckpusher:
Our submission was simple , do not refer to any part of the Niger Delta as Igbo land and we are good to go but any attempt to disregard this simple genuine request will not be treated lightly and this is where we stand.
Let me reiterate here that I do not hate the Igbos, we've come a long way, we are neighbors , we are brothers, they have helped me and I have also helped them , I have lived among them, they are my neigbors, my colleagues, my friends , my inlaws,my business partners, my girlfriends and they have a place in my heart anytime but any attempt to touch my identity would be rejected outrightly and it would be considered as an ultimate insult.
We can work together as one undivided entity with a different identity and I hope the message is loud and clear.
Thank you.

this post reminds of oliseh when he confidentally said he wasnt igbo despite his obvious igbo name... The way ibos started cursing and abusing like say na by force to be igbo.

Truckpusher:
Your continues long throat for what is not yours will lead to your downfall. Go figure.....

FOLYKAZE:
Science have nothing to do with gods

could you elaborate on the gods and what they have to do with energy?

FOLYKAZE:
Spiritual atheist disbelieve in God defined as a person living behind the cloud. However, spiritual atheist believes there are more to human, animal and every matter than their physical body. We believe spirit exist. Traditional atheists disbleieve in God but we try to define our God as energy or force or spirits in nature. Some tends to call this spirit consciousness, psyche, ultimate mind, God or whatever, we understand.

Also, spiritual atheist engage in kind of spirituality without God (defined as human). Our spiritualism like Fela said is To be spiritual is not by praying and going to church. Spiritualism is the understanding of the universe so that it can be a better place to live in.

so you are talking abt science?

sonOfLucifer:
An atheist who doesnt believe in God but believes in Gods.

lmao... Is this some kinda of joke?

chuna1985:
It's a lie.

Many different groups makes up yoruba. Yoruba language is more or else a language that unifies all of them. Ijebu is one of those groups n there are many more (I don't remember their names) u can read about dem later, some came from Sudan too (A Yoruba traditional ruler said so some 3 months ago).

Even in igbo land; onitsha people are not igbos, same goes with Enugu Ezike + many more.

lol ...grade a trash...

ojun50:
Is high time ladies/women understand that these tins don't move guys any more.

We jst want to come nd do nd touch nd go

boobs dnt move u?

Gay alert

QuotaSystem:
No, Buhari will prosecute him fairly and jail him accordingly for confronting the Nigerian state and advising a violent secession, while advocating and encouraging attacks on Yoruba pastors and Hausas. These are things I heard personally on RB and not told, and they will definitely be used to try him when he is arraigned.

Check subsection 42 and carefully note the word 'advises'.

runing a pirate radio station self is enough to jail the shithead