OneCandleAway:


So what's your current prediction. On bitcoin.
You don't even post on your YouTube channel and I'm a subscriber.

I usually post whenever there is need but i may be taking it more seriously as i will be giving daily analysis on Bitcoin and currencies.

To your question, i answered already in that video. Bitcoin could go as high as 100k or even more

On GOD i am one of the best analyst in the entire world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71fHxc2btj4?si=gJ8h073qb8xeUVb1

Bitcoin now hovering around 55k

Check the several accurate analysis i made

https://www.youtube.com/@forexrefuge

It will be vey shameful if Tinubu Honours it. It will be a confirmation that he is a beggar.

Ugly cup

May GOD let the state maintain the service cos our maintenance culture is bad.

With what the eagles have played so far, i dont see us beating Cameroun.

Hard to forget.

you cant come close to me and forget me in a hurry cos i will always impact your life positively in one way or the other.

Nice one.

Seun can you please elaborate on the abuse post that caused the site to go off perhaps people will have a better understanding and prevent such from recurring.

SweetBuns:
My type of man

Tall, dark and handsome 🤩

that means you will fall flat for me lol

Mad people

BluntCrazeMan:
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This post is for people like us who still believe that THE “NIGERIAN ELECTIONS” IS THE KEY TO A BETTER NIGERIA,, AND THAT NIGERIAN ELECTIONS CAN GET PERFECT VERY SOON WITH FURTHER ELECTORAL REFORMS

BALDADASH.

I think you should go and take up a career in comedy.

Not after billions were spent on BVAS and people were sensitized to go register believing our votes will count. I know how many people i even begged and induced just to go register and after all the reforms what happened?

Maybe after the criminal we have in Aso rock is done with his 8 years IF GOD ALLOWS,perhaps we will be having this conversation.

reddingtonblack:



Apparently you are one of ATIKU's Major problem ... someone as being going to court for over two decades never won a case and here you are gearing him on to still go to court, with what evidence or is it that nonsense David ode-sin is posting you hope Atiku will use and convince a competent court.

there is a term for people that keep doing things the same way but expect different results hope you find it

trace my first post on this thread. That will answer your question

ok

seunmsg:


The Judgement is clear, the president can be investigated but can't be sued until he leaves office. So, what's your meaningless argument all about again? Which part of the judgement did you get your claim that an incumbent President can be sued to court in a criminal proceeding?

I see where you are getting it wrong. i was not even considering naija courts. The legal immunity of a sitting president typically applies within the borders of their own country and does not extend to immunity from prosecution in foreign jurisdictions. International law generally does not grant immunity to heads of state from prosecution by other countries' legal systems.

So even if the Nigeria courts refuse to start any process, Atiku can take his battle outside Nigeria as he is currently doing anyways.

seunmsg:





Above is an extract of Section 308 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria as amended. You can now delete the ignorant comment you made above and thank me for educating you once again this morning.

Let me educate you better...As i wrote, he can not be prosecuted but criminal case can be instituted and brought to a conclusive verdict.

The Supreme court has shed more light on the quoted section of the 1999 constitution.

The Supreme Court as ruling in Chief Gani Fawehinmi vs. Inspector General of Police (2002) 23 WRN 1

“That a person protected under section 308 of the 1999 Constitution, going by its provisions, can be investigated by the police for an alleged crime or offence is, in my view, beyond dispute. To hold otherwise is to create a monstrous situation whose manifestation may not be fully appreciated until illustrated… The evidence may be useful for impeachment purposes if the House of Assembly may have need of it. It may no doubt be used for prosecution of the said incumbent Governor after he has left office. But to do nothing under the pretext that a Governor cannot be investigated is a disservice to the society.”

I hope you have learnt something new.

Please feel free to counter it but avoid the use of derogatory words so that i can respond. And mind you, looking away from this i hope you undestand that the legal immunity of a sitting president typically applies within the borders of their own country and does not extend to immunity from prosecution in foreign jurisdictions. International law generally does not grant immunity to heads of state from prosecution by other countries' legal systems.

So even if the Nigeria courts refuse to start any process, Atiku can take his battle outside Nigeria as he is currently doing anyways.

flokii:


Give up already..

PBAT will complete his 8 years by the special grace of God.

Even himself knows he cant. Person wey don cast himself.

seunmsg:


You mean Atiku can sue an incumbent president? Are you really this deficient in terms of knowledge of the law or you are simply pretending to be slow?

Yes you can sue and even get a guilty conviction on a sitting president BUT HE WILL NOT BE PUNISHED DUE TO IMMUNITY CLAUSE.

The aim here is to put an end to Tinubu's political career in Nigeria and possibly get him jailed AFTER HE FINISHES HIS FIRST TERM.

Inec will not be able to clear him in 2027 hence he will be out of power and will face the wrath of his forgery.

And let me advise you..When you discuss matters please try to be decent and reasonable. Use words that are void of derogation especially when unprovoked.

Please learn this.

BadMaster:

You have been here since 2008. I would like to believe that you are not that young anymore. So, why so naive?

If indeed you know i have been here since 2008 then you should know that i won't be foolish to start writing trash.

Nigerians are not expecting the supreme court to remove Tinubu and ofcourse we all know he may likely finish his first term if khaki boys allow him.

The point here is that the revelation of CSU has made it clear that Tinubu committed forgery and im not talking about CSU certificate but the Government college results forgery talking about forging a GCE result of a school that was never in existence until 4 years after. No lawyer in the world can defend him on this.

Section 465 of the Criminal Code Act in Nigeria. Definition of forgery
A person who makes a false document or writing knowing it to be false, and with intent that it may in any way be used or acted upon as genuine, whether in the State or elsewhere, to the prejudice of any person, or with intent that any person may, in the belief that it is genuine, be induced to do or refrain from doing any act, whether in the State or elsewhere, is said to forge the document or writing.
More: https://jurist.ng/criminal_code_act/sec-465

Any Tinubu's stooge who wants to argue this should argue with his or her keypad.

flokii:
Atiku's fishing expedition to the United States in the mud

Not in the mud.

He can still pursue it in the courts and gets tinubu convicted of forgery which will put an end to Tinubu's bid for a second term.

No reasonable person was expecting anything new from the supreme court so make una enjoy Tinubu's tenure

lol

Only a clown will expect any surprise.

Supreme court will uphold Tinubu's victory but he will never contest again after this first term cos a criminal conviction will be made against him in subsequent law suit by Atiku and Tinubu can never escape getting convicted for forgery and im not talking about CSU certificate but the Government college results forgery talking about forging a GCE result of a school that was never in existence until 4 years after. No lawyer in the world can defend him on this.

Section 465 of the Criminal Code Act in Nigeria. Definition of forgery
A person who makes a false document or writing knowing it to be false, and with intent that it may in any way be used or acted upon as genuine, whether in the State or elsewhere, to the prejudice of any person, or with intent that any person may, in the belief that it is genuine, be induced to do or refrain from doing any act, whether in the State or elsewhere, is said to forge the document or writing.
More: https://jurist.ng/criminal_code_act/sec-465

MRMRMR:
See clowns. Why don't u ask CSU to withdraw the certificate.
U guys can cry blood. PBAT is ur president simple.

i know you wont see this part .

Now here is the killer move Tinubu can never escape and if he does then nothing else will nail him.

Section 468 of the Criminal Code Act in Nigeria says, “Any person who knowingly and fraudulently utters a false document or writing, or a counterfeit seal, is guilty of an offence of the same kind and is liable to the same punishment as if he had forged the thing in question.

“It is immaterial whether the false document or writing, or counterfeit seal, was made in Nigeria or elsewhere.

mbaboy:
your children will be very disappointed in you my brother . You are a shameless man without any form of integrity

I have realized that the sensible supporters of Tinubu support him in silence but the fooolish ones are the vocal ones.

Samantha124:
Toks2008, this is you in few years time...

If you know me you will never want to leave me.

Im too sweet to do such.

loffyloffy:


This will be true if he forged the gce A levels.

That is easily verifiable..get in touch with the issuing institution, I believe that is cambridge.

On attending kings college..he didn't say he graduated from there, just that he attended, he did not submit any document to back that up,and a good lawyer can easily twist that up.

He could have attempted the A levels as a private citizen, his not so good performance may have been as a result of that.

This also implies that BAT was already BAT when he left Nigeria , and is in no way guilty of identity theft..at least not in the .
US.

I admit that this is all speculation..it actualy looks more reasonable and possible than the one you are spreading.

It will all have zero effect on the outcome of the pettion at the supreme court though, and in all probability , he will remain the president for the next 8 yrs, and he will be a very decent one too, even tending to

Are you sure you read to comprehend or just to respond if you ever read the piece? Which kain people be this for pete's sake. What an atrocious comment.

seunmsg:


Can you now name the document that was forged in order to gain admission to CSU?

I thought by now you will be using the word Falsified as modified by me. And if you are asking for the document/form i have provided it and you can clearly see the CSU certification on it meaning it came from CSU.

See guy, this is a faceless forum but i am not faceless here and you know why ? , it is because i stand for what is right and just, i have no skeleton in my closet. Yes the holy book says there is no righteous, no not one so i don't claim to be righteous but a double standard person is an abomination to GOD.

Just a piece of advise. Always listen to your conscience and stand for what is right because at the end, you are what you stand for.

seunmsg:


You still don’t get it. There is no falsification or forgery here. He probably made false claim in the admission form but that’s not a criminal offense in any way. It only becomes an offense if the claim was made under oath (perjury).

Where is the evidence that he used the falsified information to gain admission to south west college? Please provide credible proof from south west college to support this claim? Seriously, you really need to stop making false claim yourself. You’re far worse than the person you’re even accusing going by the number of times I’ve spotted false claims in your post.

Are you for real?

I am beginning to sense a strong bias in your post.

First off you said making a false claim to gain admission is not a criminal offense. That is laughable and i wont even argue this part.

As for the embolden please dont make me regret responding to you. It is very immature and a sign of low IQ to leave subject matter to attack the discussant.

Finally, the fact that CSU has that record in their possession simply means Tinubu gave them and even if it was useless, the fact that it was presented makes him liable .

I am freaking amazed that im explaining this. I will stop here and leave you to believe whatever tickles your fancy.

seunmsg:


I can that you’ve finally amended your original post and you’re no longer claiming forgery. Next time, get your allegations right before rushing to post on Nairaland.

Now, let’s talk about giving false information to gain admission. First, Tinubu never presented any false, forged or falsified documents to gain admission. Tinubu was admitted to CSU based off transfer of points from South west college and not based on any Lagos state government college certificate or document.

He submitted only two documents to gain admission, his Cambridge HSC result and South west college transcript. These are the only two relevant documents he used to gain admission and they are not false, forged or falsified. The undergraduate application form he filled was just to collect his data and nothing else. Whether he attended Lagos state government college is irrelevant to the school because he did not submit any document from the school to gain the admission.

I hope I’ve educated you well enough this night. Next time, get your facts correctly before jumping to open a thread based on ignorance.

Because you responded responsibly i will indulge you.

First off, both falsification and forgery are criminal act and carries similar consequence especially when it relates to academic issues.

Secondly, if you read well, i made reference to two institutions which are South west college and CSU.

He used the falsified info to gain admission to south west college which makes it even more difficult for him and he latter submitted that along with his documents from south west to CSU.

Remember that it was CSU that released these documents meaning it was with the school.

See it will shock you to know that i am a card carrying member of APC but i am not foolish and will never support wrong thing regardless of my affiliation to the party.

This is one of the options for Atiku to explore. The reason i am against Tinubu is simply because of the way the electoral process was sabotaged. It is wrong to force yourself on people and such a man should not be allowed to rule a country like Nigeria.

Meanwhile, the FBIU and CIA reports are coming out this month. Perhaps we may see very revealing info.

wrongnumber:


@toks2008 please don't dignify this lowlife by responding.

Forgery/falsification are criminal offences so the fact that this clueless fellow is writing this goes a long way in showing how ridiculously Dmb he is.

GOD forbid i banter words with Tinubu stooges who are paid 30k monthly to defend him on social media. I am not in their league.

seunmsg:


You are not telling him and the OP the right thing. The OP claimed that Tinubu forged document to gain admission to CSU. He is not disputing the fact that Tinubu graduated from CSU. The question the OP and the person you’re responding to need to answer is, what document did Tinubu forge to gain the admission? Both of them have refused to answer the question till now.

Go back and read the Original post again. Perhaps it will make sense if you try to comprehend.

seunmsg:


So, how is the CSU admission application form a forgery? Explain and make it make sense.

Very interesting. As the elders say, 'But for fools, all words should be spoken in parables' No pun intended.

So you need to be explained to that Falsification and forgery are related concepts.

Ok, for people like you, i will modify so that it can sink well. But i hope you know that forgery, falsification both have similar penalty.

DoTheNeedful:


Some of you are just too emotional. I have been on this platform enough to know that you are an elderly person of almost 50 years. It is unfortunate to see how childish you get with your analysis at times.

As far as 2023 elections is concerned, there is nothing Atiku can do to Tinubu again. So, having failed to established that Tinubu did not fake his CSU certificate, you want Atiku to start challenging how Tinubu gained admission to CSU and the information he gave as to finishing from Government College Lagos. To what end?

What a Preposterous response. You would have made sense with your second paragraph without adding the odoriferous remarks but i will let it pass. Nevertheless, i would dignify you with a further response.

I will go out naked if Mynd44 or any mod push stuffs like this to the front page. As long as it is not from reno omokri or pro tinubu news

I would love us to look away from the issue of whether Tinubu forged his diploma certificate or not and let's look at the bigger monster.

It has been established beyond all doubts that Tinubu gave a false information to gain admission into Southwest College and Chicago state University and that is clearly seen in the image attached. Tinubu who applied to Southwest College for an associate degree in 1975 claimed to have attended Government College, Lagos, and presented a 1970 GCE A-level result. Whereas, Government College, Lagos, was established in 1974 by the administration of Brig. General Mobolaji Johnson. This was also part of the documents Tinubu presented to CSU and was part of the documents released by CSU to Atiku Abubaker.

In situations where a person is found to have gained admission and earned a degree using forged documents or falsifying information, even if it happened many years ago, universities typically have the authority to revoke the degree. Most academic institutions have policies in place to address cases of academic fraud, including the use of forged documents during the admission process. Universities take academic integrity seriously, and if it comes to light that a degree was obtained through fraudulent means, they can conduct an investigation, which might lead to disciplinary actions, including the revocation of the degree.

Now that there is a substantial evidence, what Atiku needs to do now is to prompt South west college(Richard Darley) and Chicago state university to conduct an internal investigation, and take action, including revoking Tinubu's degree but this would generally depend on the School's policies which i believe has zero tolerance to forgery or false information.

Now here is the killer move Tinubu can never escape and if he does then nothing else will nail him.

Section 468 of the Criminal Code Act in Nigeria says, “Any person who knowingly and fraudulently utters a false document or writing, or a counterfeit seal, is guilty of an offence of the same kind and is liable to the same punishment as if he had forged the thing in question.

“It is immaterial whether the false document or writing, or counterfeit seal, was made in Nigeria or elsewhere.

Now i want every Tinubu supporter to read the quoted again and this time very slowly...What this means is that the Nigeria criminal code recognizes alteration or falsification of a document as forgery and it does not matter where the false document is used.

At this point i do not need to explain further to anyone how this singular document can indeed remove Tinubu as the president.

But will the supreme court admit new evidence? If it does then there is no hiding place for Tinubu.