₦airaland Forum

alizma:
Lazy youths, all they know is press phone button to type nonsense. ask majority of those youths on twitter to give stage by stage details of electing and declaring a winner of an electoral process in their country, Nigeria and you will get the shock of your life.
why won't they mock INEC when they don't know the process.
to them, once there is a queue and people on the queue had thumbprint the ballot paper, the next thing is to announce a winner.

Seems u are more clueless than those people because to gather information of votes since Saturday has now becomes a task that is daunting

Udantu:
History will not be kind to Amaechi and co

God bless wike

Thunder fire the lizard of ubiama

I really don't get it wen people throw away their sense because they are supporting a party... The hullabaloo that happened in rivers was done by both apc and pdp... Even the party that apc is doing it for, has distance itself from amaechi and apc. There is mass rigging everywhere a particular party takes control of the collation centre or ward or voting unit... So, stop saying that trash about amaechi alone, both amaechi and wike are 2 useless human being that supposed to be thrown to a dungeon

bender79:
They should go and sit down. After buhari won they started forming "activity". Why didn't they deploy it during the presidential polls? Nonsense

Armies tried to shoot down sowore drone, as a matter of fact, it's still with them, they said they are investigating it... Is government not mad like this?

All the names thrown up here will not be in a sane mind list, from 1 to 100

Vickthore:
U r sure ... U r sure where are ur facts? Don't argue wt mere hypothesis

It isn't just mere, the hand writing is on the wall... The investigation into Alex badeh stopped, immediately it start leading to current prominent figures in government

ekaette1621:
Sai baba.
We nairalanders love you

Before u shout sai baba, u should be asking, why was he killed. He is guilty of crimes he was said to commit but he was going to reveal more in the court room which am sure will affect the current government or the players in this government. A serious government gets to the bottom of issues, na cosmetics we seeing... Between, am sure the properties forfeited are not up to 20% of total stollen wealth

Platony:
Pls Who won d Presidential Election

The cabals

Bungalow:
The fact that she’s the first person to show it off does not mean she’s the first person to own it in Nigeria .
Think !!
Think !!

Read and comprehend before u comment.... The phone is not yet out on sale, not even Samsung staff can have it except the toppest executives bt as brand ambassador she is, they probably fly one from factory directly to her... U can only pre-order for now, even in USA or elsewhere

Ode man... Hospital wey no hope say u go survive am, wen the person u voting will fly to London as usual to let u die

psammyCUTE:
Please do you have the figures

I saw the live video he did bt can't remember exact number bt where he voted, apc 82, pdp 11, AA 8, AAC 209

Moferere:
Abeg where is Bilms and his joker candidate?

Go hide nau, wat u expect? Rented crowd no fit even help dis case, Sowore is a hero in his hometown today, won all the polling unit around him... People were singing his praise, jubilating like he won the real deal... He was always close to them, they appreciate him

Baroba:
Kingsley has ran a good campaign, unfortunately he lacks the structure to have any say in this election, it will take a major electoral reform for the likes of Moghalu and co to even make a dent..

His own people know he won't win, it doesn't mean he was rejected, They are just been realistic..

He ran absolutely rubbish campaign, he was doing it like apc/pdp... Instead of going to meet voters, he is busy chasing after one media house after the other, for interview... Sowore was shut out by many media houses, he didn't even spent up to half of wat kingey spent but he made good impact all around... It's not to speak Grammer, its to be intelligent in paper and in practise. All these youth voters has lost their senses, they bought into pdp propaganda that their vote is a waste if its for young candidate, bt it's a huge lie...

StOla:
So only Sowore managed to show that his own people believe in his political ambitions.

Atiku failed!
Moghalu failed!

Waiting for Olawepo Hashim, Fela Durotoye, and Donald Duke.

All failed...

Naijaguy12345:
Well done to Sowore. Unlike the Cameroonian who couldn't win his polling unit in Adamawa.

But why would they waste all that votes on him, Sowore will not win more than his unit.

He won all the 3 uint in his village

Joybringer:
Election is not won online...

People online, are the ones who are enlightened, that's why we keep voting useless peoples like atiku and Buhari... If only we all enlightened... We will be talking of Sowore and others now, not the 2 ancestors.

bisichocs:
ANYONE THAT VOTE OR SUPPORT OR ENCOURAGE BUAHRI TO COME IN FOR 2ND TERM, THIS IS WHAT WILL AFFLICT YOU AND YOUR GENERATIONS TO COME

As Nigerians with our fundamental right to vote whoever we want - whether Sowore, Moghalu, Atiku or whoever, the suffering, poverty and hunger that this tyranical government represents, we cant as a nation continue this anymore. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

- To start with, millions of people are suffering and millions are already out of jobs.
- Millions of Nigerians are badly hungry as most cant even feed their kids or family
- Tens of thousands of businesses - both small, medium and big are shut down and closed for business
- Nigerians RARELY commit suicide no matter the situation but in the last two to three years, the rate of suicidal incidences by Nigerians due to the economical disaster being experienced is damn so alarming!
- Thousands of lives accross Nigeria have been recklessly destroyed due to the worst security situation in the country perpetrated by SARS officers, Herdsmen, Re-energized Boko Haram, Police, Custom and other para-military personnels
- Farmlands, livelihoods and means of survivals of many are destroyed and battered beyond repaires due to boko haram and Militant herdsmen who have grown so much intoxicated with getting away with impunity

If you therefore support the 2nd coming of this worst affliction that is called Buhari. This is what WILL happen to you as i and other well meaning Nigerians invoked in strongest of term that the thunder strike of God almighty and the small gods of Amadioha, Sango, Obatala and so on shall strike down ON YOU, ON WHATEVER YOU DO, YOUR BUSINESS - (WONT PRAY FOR THAT ON YOUR INNOCENT CHILDREN AND UNBORN GENERATION)

In Jesus name and Insha Allah, you will alone carry on your head all the combined sufferings that Nigerians are going through. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

Why all these curses? BECAUSE THESE SUFFERINGS ARE JUST TOO MUCH. WE CANT TAKE THIS ANY MORE. WE CANT. FEW OF US ARE STILL DOING FINE AND OKAY, BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR NEIGHBOURS, FRIENDS, AND OTHER NIGERIANS SUFFERING ENDLESSLY. I IS JUST TOO MUCH TO BEAR. IT IS PAINSTAINKINGLY TOO MUCH

IF BUHARI ENTERS FOR THE 2ND TERM, THEY WILL AUCTION NIGERIANS ON OLX, JIJI AND OJUELEGBA BEND DOWN SELECT. This same man that has been in government and petroleum power since early 1960s is still ruling us in 2019 and want continue till 2023 and some greediest souls on on planet Nigeria and Africa want tht to happen. WE MUST RESIST IT. ANYONE ELSE BUT FAILURE BUHARI!

As we all can see, ALL THE TRADITIONAL MEDIA HOUSES - RADIO, TV AND PRINTS (INCLUDING ALL THE CASHTIVIST) ARE ALL DEAD FROM SAYING ANYTHING BECAUSE IF THEY SAY ANYTHING, SECURITY DOGS AND BABOONS BY THIS TYRANICAL GOVERNMENT WOULD BE SET AGAINST THEM!

Fellow Nigerians, Please, let us work together to take away the worst reproach from Nigeria - HAUSA, IGBO, ITSHEKIRI, BENIN, EGBE, IKALE, YORUBA, AWORI, TIV, ETC, lets make Nigeria the true Nigeria that we want it to be!

Please, whenever you wanna say the truth, say it to the last, almost every way u described Buhari, it's same with Atiku, or don't u know this thief has been there too like forever?
Team Sowore... Vote AAC

BuhariLooter:
ANYONE THAT VOTE OR SUPPORT OR ENCOURAGE BUAHRI TO COME IN FOR 2ND TERM,GOD WILL SENT SICKNESS TO AFFLICT YOU AND YOUR GENERATIONS TO COME

VOTE ATIKU THE LORD'S ANOINTED !



VOTE ATIKU ADEWALE CHUKWUMA AGUERO ABUBAKAR FOR PRESIDENT




VOTE PDP....

Anybody that votes a thief, God will send a thief to come and kill and terrorise them... Vote AAC. VOTE Sowore, the Moses that will lead Nigeria to promise land

5thElement:
Don't sweat it bro. I'm not even in a position to vote.

If not u, others are reading

5thElement:
Ordinarily I root for Sowore. He seems capable. But since we Nigerians have decided that the contest is between Buhari and Atiku, then I'd give it to Buhari. Atiku should be caged. For crying out loud, who donates millions of dollars of his own personal money simply because he wants to work hard and serve the people?

I fear for our National assets if Atiku ever gets there.

Atiku has done 8 years of vice presidency. He should focus on his business he used our money to build.

Listen to his boss:

Does Buhari deserve ur vote? Have u not learnt anything from the calamitous 4 years?
Its this lie that they are selling to people that there is only 2 candidates. Just think about, it, many people who knows sowore is the best are choosing the 2 rotten egg, simply because they lied to them that, nobody knows sowore. But that is not true, every single vote that adds to sowore vote is an extra odd that he can win... Imagine 1 million people are like u, they can convince one or 2 of their friends that are apc/pdp to vote Sowore... That's a very huge opportunity for Sowore to have better odd. So, pls don't buy into that lie, all surveys that has been co suctee online shows that Sowore is quite close to apc/pdp than the lies they are saying. Just look at the post as an example... We see planty argument of people from page one to 7. Also of them mislead... Apc/pdp thread doesn't get better than this... Even if they say u are wasting ur vote, tell them, u wanna waste ur vote wisely by Voting Sowore and AAC.

justfash50:
Will sowore initiates a new system of Government?

How will he convince the Legislative arm of the Government to slash their allowance and budget by 70%?

There are a lot of questions to be asked, abstraction alone does not win elections especially when you don't know how to practically solved mirage of our problems. This is the vision I don't see in some of this third force, they talk too much without any vision driven solutions to our problems

Sowore is not a one man team, he is working with some of the best people around. Am made to understand that the legislators basic salary is 750k and they don't deserve the 13.5 million bonus they getting monthly, infact, they are only entitled to, not more than 1 million. He said, it will be contested in court, any illegality. This government will be run transparently for all to view and make inform decision, so that u all can support easily and fast. Nobody should hold the nation to ransome... Between, he intends to rewrite the conatition, pass it through referendum also, so that all Nigerians will know that the law covers them all, not the fraud from 1999 constitution,

Olumyco:
I see you people keep admitting that inflation can result if the goods and services in the country is low but the mistake you guys are making is that Sowore does not admit that. Sowore each time is talking about the 100k minimum wage criticism, will always say how come the money the senators are collecting is not causing inflation. He start saying different things. He does not even say these things you people are saying that the growth of our production and infrastructure with the increment will go together. It shows you guys are just trying to help him here. He is not saying anything you guys are saying here. He plans to develop the tourism, health etc sectors of the country on the basis of his agenda to develop the country not to be able to avoid inflation as a result of the 100k. You guys should listen to his claim. Dont come here and package it for us. Infact Sowore believes the 100k will not cause inflation whether the tourism sector, health sector, agric sector etc is improved or not. In his mind Nigeria should be paying 100k min wage now instead of 30k.
We all understand that he means well for us but if you are not knowledgeable about economics you can cause trouble for the nation at the expense of taking the country out of poverty. Nigeria is not US. What will work for us is increment over a period of time while our production sector and infrastructure grow. Sowore is good in other areas no one is an island he should set up good economic and financial team that will help him. Simple

The first thing Sowore did before he declare his intention to run was, reaserch, one of those research was, which of the 10 agenda he proposed should he pursue first, people said all... On essences, he said all of them will work together, hand in hand.
Nobody is packaging anything here, because sowore most times don't go into the tiniest of details in his manifesto bt going through it, u can easily understand it. Why Sowore keep mentioning that 100k is because, people that attacked that wage are not doing so, out of concern for Nigerians, they keep saying, Nigeria doesn't have the money and if it does, inflation kicks in and Nigeria will capsize, his question to them was, is Nigeria not on a steady inflation? Which one are u talking about again? If the salary of the legislators don't cause inflation, why will that of workers, who deserve wat they are working for? U can find an excuse not to pay a worker bt u can't find an excuse to pay them?

Is the merit out weight the demerit? Incase things go awry, wat can be done? All these questions were answered before Sowore bring out his manifesto and that manifesto had the contributions of professionals from different fields.

Newboss:
Yes, EVERYONE must get an equivalent increase. Else, the guys on 100k now will be on 100k with the minimum wage earner. That would be absolute injustice in the name of fighting for justice.

FG wage bill, about 3 years ago was 65b Naira a month (I stand to be corrected on this). That's 780b Naira a year. Multiply that by 5.5 (It should actually be 5.556. I'm being lenient with figures), that would be 4290b (4.29trillion) Naira in annual wage bill alone if minimum wage goes to 100k

Now, this is getting messier because that's almost our annual budget as a nation. Our wage bill was about less than 20% of the annual budget as at 2016 budget. Just being lenient with figures because the figure was actually less than 15%.

As if that's not crazy enough, our 2019 revenue projection is 6.97 trillion Naira. The budget is 8.8trillion. If you add 4 times the current 18k minimum wage annual wage bill to that budget, that would amount to adding 3.12 trillion (over 8b usd) to it the current budget (total will become over 11trillion Naira)

Sowore thinks he needs 1.8b USD extra? LMAO

That's at least times 4.4 the 1.8b USD extra he's talking about just for the extra needed for the new minimum wage

NB: Our current wage bill is already way beyond 65b naira a month because of promotions and new recruitment. That figure is from around 2016. That worsens the actual figure needed to pay that wage

U ain't listening sir... We are not going to be paying more for those already receiving enough, this is for those on the lowest and middle salary structure, which means, it's from 100k upward, someone already receiving 100k will receive a pay rise bt not by ur formula of times 5. I already told u that there is big disparity within the salary structure, should we carry on with that? Or we restructure it? We choose restructuring... U get now?

Olumyco:
I know his agenda SPICER HEAT and Sowore is who I wish could enter this Saturday but his minimum/living wage idea is wrong Sir. I support him but not that 100k minimum/living wage thing. See economy itself is how money enters and exits based on human behaviour. In economics when you talk about production in an economy you are talking about income money flow (how money move from employers to employees) and consumption money flow (how money move from consumers to producers). See cash flow is like when rain is falling. When rain is in excess, that is, more than the ground and river can contain, flooding will occur. Its a phenomena. No one can beat that. By the time employers start paying 100k as living wage to low employees just know that there will be much outflow of cash towards goods and services in the economy and inflation will result like flooding becos the available goods and services cannot curtail the massive outflow of money. You know he also talked about giving out of loans to build houses after the increment too... infact there will too much money chasing fewer goods and services. Consumption rate will increase. Producers will jack up prices of goods and services too. See the best he can do is to first develop those things you mentioned which are his plans before increasing the minimum wage. I know that Sowore mean well for this country and want to take us out of poverty but that 100k formula will not work. What works is increasing the value of money in the country by providing infrastructure (electricity, refinery etc)and developing human capital which by doing so, Nigeria will have a good living standard and come out of poverty. We all can study South Korea, Singapore, UAE etc... its not by minimum wage is by solving the infrastructural and human capital problem of the country. Then you talk about building your own house and becoming a landlord of urself. Hmmmmm this is wrong in economics becos house, car etc are liabilities.. what we need is asset. We need businesses to get money then after we can build houses. Instead of house loan it should be business load. The country needs business owners and investors and not landlords and car owners. Sowore needs to be advised seriously. You dont build economy on liabilities, you build on assets.

You are moving in different direction from the party ideology, which is a wellfarian party... As long as u don't understand the basic and premise on this 100k minimum wage, u will keep finding excuses to pay people 30k, leaving them unmotivated, unproductive and corrupt... Pls note that we talking about federal workers here and States under AAC. Using ur rain analogy, wat if we build drainage to mop up this rain? Since its expected that there will be more rain. This is why we can't afford not to incentivize our workers, nothing will work or move forward paying them this atrocious 30k salary. This is a system designed to move hand in hand with others like agriculture, tourism, right policies to enable businesses come to invest... Just think about it, 100k is a middling ground or a starting point to jump-start the economy while not leaving the people behind because without them, we are simply wasting our time on everything we thought we wanna do

Chatflick:
I will be of course and even 60 years laters... I want to believe you mean well.

Ofcourse, i mean well, nobody wish to die, even those killed by boko haram, Herdsmen, bad roads, unprofessionalism... They all could still be alive with the right leadership, no time for procrastination, the time is now because every second matters

wman:
idid and Tomtos88 no sabi economics at all. Dem no even sabi argue well.

Two of you were busy throwing subtle insults at Chatflick, wirinet, Newboss, correctguy0900, Olumyco and others.

You didn't read and understand their arguements well and you were throwing little jabs at them. They never insulted you in any way. Stop insulting their intelligence and their comprehension skills.

You won't do Sowore any good by arguing blindly and unintelligently.

My vote is for Sowore but the N100k minimum wage is total crap and bullsh.it.

Nigeria is not ready for that.

Please, point out where i insult someone o. How can i write something and u termed it something else, isn't that person having comprehension issue or just intentionally ignoring my post?
I doubt u are for sowore, if u are, u wount even doubt the 100k,. One of the first thing u will learn from sowore is, government intentionally put people in mental slavery by misleading them, they will tell u things like, Nigeria is complex, we don't have money for this or that. Provide electrify, roads and good working condition, security, jobs for Nigerians and see how it will become like magic that u are performing

yunnyp:
IT'S HER JNR SISTER

Na only get sense, nairalander are so dumb

Olumyco:
This funny so the present workers earning 100k now how much will they be collecting when he wants to start paying people at the bottom of the ladder 100k?

See Nigeria problem is electricity, security and refinery. If we fix electricity in this country the price of goods and services will come down. When that happens the value of money will increase. Fix security same will happen. Fix refinery same will happen. Price of oil will drop and before you know it 30, 000 naira will be like 100, 000 naira of the past.

Its quite obvious u wount admit being uninformed... Who says he wount provide electricity? Security? Fix refinery?

He will produce electrify in a record time of 3 years from the 7k mega watt we have to 24k mega watt. Back to Minimum Wage, this wage isn't to increase everyone's wage, sure, someone who is on 100k will get increase, but the gap will be close greatly. The idea is not to increase wages of those already earning above that amount, but to structure it to be more closely, starting from 100k, some wount be getting a raise at all. So, after u have electrify, and u collecting 30k, wat can u do with 30 K? That's for u to live on 1k daily, where will u get money to pay rent? Taxes? If u have wife? Children? Wat about ur own health? Wount u like to be ur own landlord someday? Our 100k is a living wage, that will enable u to live like a decent human being and still be able to afford the basics of life.

Chatflick:
Read what you wrote please... I never said it is not possible.

Was asking u, why do u say we should wait for another 4 years of suffering? Wat happens to now? To have a good economy and lift people out of poverty, have to wait for wat? Do u even know if u will be alive in another 4 years?

wirinet:
Sorry to say, but there is so much ignorance in this statement. It's impossible to explain the way things really works in a single thread.
Companies are already groaning under multiple taxation by federal state and local government, that is apart from high production, self infrastructural, power, etc costs. If you add high taxes and then minimum wage of N100,000, you will finally kill all companies in new Nigeria. Governments give tax breaks and reductions to encourage companies, not tax increases.
We are in a globalised we world, and you are competing with the whole world in terms of price and quality.

Exporting marijuana will be difficult and tricky. First marijuana is illegal, legalising marijuana in a religious country like Nigeria where we even criminalise homosexualism would be near impossible. Canada is way ahead of every one else in the production and exportation of marijuana. They have highly technically advanced marijuana farming that produce the best possible marijuana. It's not the weed (pun intended) that we grow in Ondo. We just can't compete.

It is easy to shout massive investments, the problem is finding the money, skills and legislation to actualise the massive investments within the terms of a single government (4years).

It will do u alot of good to read and understand before u comment next time, i did not say, increase tax, i said, collection of tax... Did u know, the rate of tax collection in Nigeria is around 7%, that can be increased to 15% simply by making sure big companies stop short changing the country in connivance with government workers... U used the word, automation. On marijuana, its about exporting it, not legalising it for consumption, as a matter of fact, Sowore campaign already has a legal frame work in place to start the process immediately he resume office... Nigeria burn marijuana worth 1.5 trillion yearly, polluting the environment where they burn it, putting the people in the community at health risk and hazard... Why don't we remove those obstacle and import it, we didn't said, legalize it that will make it available for everyone... This is gonna be a strictly control process, from farming to collection to export. This is wat we call, thinking outside the box... A win win

wirinet:
False premises. They invest most of the increase salaries into other economies, like China, Germany or the US. They buy Chinese goods, iPhones, Samsung, Ralph Lauren, BMW, etc.
It has been tried before and it did not lead to economic expansion. Gowon increased salary abruptly in 1974 ( Udoji Awards) and it kick-started our appetite for foreign goods.

Stop saying wat u can't prove... With 100k, wat can u afford? Designer shoe? Do u actually think people survive on 30k monthly? They steal, they neglect their jobs, they become unproductive and not interested in their jobs, but with 100k, they can finaly stop worrying about how to survive decently and concentrating on their jobs... These civil servant are not kids that go for flashy things, they are more concerned to make a living... Na small pikin they chase after all those things u mentioning.. That's a fact. U can pay 14 million naira to senators bt it now becomes a crime to pay a fraction of that to ur workers? Haba, why this wickedness... And this is a gonna be a country with vision and direction, our import will be reduced drastically, even if we are gonna be consuming some foreign goods, we expect them to bring their factory here, transfer knowledge, employ people and also pay them well... Win win

wirinet:
It does not work like that, the countries with the highest wages are not the most productive.

If you increase wages without a corresponding increase in local production, you will have runaway inflation. You will also be helping clients countries that already dump their goods on Nigeria.

Research the population and cost of governance if UAE, Saudi Arabia and Qatar and compare that with their earnings. Remember monarchy is a very cheap system of government, while democracy is the most expensive.

Where did u read in his comment that countries with highest wages are the most productive? As things are in Nigeria right now, any business that u wanna start or any production u wanna go into, u must consider that people generally can't afford much because of our wage of less than 100 usd... 100k is just about 280 usd, not near anything like wats obtained in UAE or quarter but its a huge boost because these set of people are much in number, they don't send their money to UK, dubai or USA wen they collect salary, they invest it back in the economy, businesses will grow, sme will thrive, there is opportunity or space for the economy to expand due to demand and the revolution of turning Nigeria will begin

Newboss:
Maybe you don't understand the mathematics. Let me help you:

Minimum wage now is 18k.
There are entry level staff in FG payroll on 50k. There are others on 60k. There are others on 80k. There are others on 100k.

Okay, minimum wage goes up directly to 100k from 18k.
That means that minimum wage has been MULTIPLIED by a factor of AT LEAST 5.
100k being the NEW MINIMUM wage, FG can't pay anyone on her payroll LESS THAN 100k.

From the second paragraph, there are AT LEAST 4 categories of person whose wages are below the NEW MMINIMUM wage. They MUST get a just and equivalent raise to match the minimum wage.

Okay, minimum wage was increased by a factor of AT LEAST 5. That means as you're multiplying the 18k guys salary by at least a factor of 5, you MUST multiply the 50k guy's pay by at least a factor of 5 (his new pay will be above 250k a month). You MUST multiply the 60k guy's pay by at least a factor of 5 (his new pay will be above 300k per month)... Until you get to the guy earning 1m. You MUST multiply his pay by 5 (his new wage will be above 5m a month)... Etc.

You MUST multiply by a flat rate because as a worker is leaving a salary, there are more qualified people who are on that his new salary. So you MUST multiply their salary by the same factor you multiplied the last guy's own.


I hope you can see the chain of stupidity? Anyone with brain will raise price by at least a factor of 3 (just being lenient) because those who just got times 5 their former salary without ppromotion don't work harder than them.


Imagine it and you'll see a horror movie

The money is NOT the problem. The stupidity is the problem. Naira WILL become VERY VERY VERY USELESS if you do that

Too bad u don't read and don't care to find out before u type... Sowore agenda is all about the people at the bottom, which has been neglected, because of bad condition, they have become unproductive, involve in corruptions and generally neglect for work... This 100k minimum wage is to bridgw the gap between the wide difference of those on minimum wage and those on maximum wage, not everyone going to get a raise. Assume it as a new structure of payment that makes the wage structure more reasonable starting from 100k not multiply by 5 like u saying... With Sowore calculations, he will be needing just about 1.6 billion usd yearly to pay this extra... Are u satisfied now?