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REDshouse:
Ur pastors and belief ...

Can u ever interpret the spirit language u are speaking in... your answer will be u are speaking to God or you are speaking to holyspirit....

With all speakers of speaking in tongues their life always remain same and no physical or spiritual changes....

The same spirit will give them spirit of fornication, backsliding, stealing, etc

tonyuny12:
Did you just received the gift without having gone through the bible and prayed in line for it. Do you ask for what you have no knowledge about?

Will a man just wake up and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit if he has not first had knowledge about the gift of the Spirit. No wonder we have sinners making lots of noise in our today churches all in the name of tongues because they heard a man spoke or talked about tongues.

Faith commeth by Hearing, and Hearing through the word of God. So there's nothing wrong if he said we received or inherited speaking in tongues from the Bible. Or is the Bible no longer the word of God that was inspired by the Holy Spirit just because Tinubu said we inherited from the bible?

REDshouse:
which holy spirit are u referencing to ... oga u have been scammed heavily...

shinealight:
When you have ‘Confusion of Tongues’ which you prefer to use, are the people not speaking in different tongues?…..which is in fact the narrative he was giving. Hwvr, you choose to confuse the phrase with the “jabajababrrrrjajibi” of some Christians churches.
This is not what the narrative is about. End of story!!

tonyuny12:
No one speaks in tongues if he or she has not received power from the Holy Spirit.

Inheritance and Receiving are synonymous. Stop making alot out of nothing.

KillSars:
Isn't it obvious...
Trace a phrase....

Na ur type dey argue sey Jesus was not mention in the old testament...

KillSars:
Bible no be story book bro.... know that and know peace...

shinealight:
You’re free to go and give him the advice in your last sentence and he would be at liberty to accept or reject it as preposterous!
I suggest you do not quote the words “speaking in tongues” out of context…..you must relate it to the narrative he was relating.
Maybe you frequent those churches where they practise the so-called ‘speaking in tongues’ ad nauseam and you therefore cannot situate those words in any other context. That’s not his fault!!

KillSars:
Wahala....

Make I burst ur brain finally...
When u speak in tongue it could be spirited or non spirited, but there is certainty that confusion go dey in the two...

Spirited speaking in tongue, u are talking directly to God, not even the devil himself go hear wetin u dey talk... with that u dey confuse the devil, he wan know wetin u dey talk but e no fit....

The non spirited speaking in tongue na man to man talk, na the case of those tower guyz be dat...confusion sets in aswell...

shinealight:
If you’re a Christian you will know the biblical story of how humanity was dispersed into groups destined to speak in different and multifarious tongues!

shinealight:
It all depends on how you understand the statement made and the context in which it was made!
The story of “Speaking in different tongues” can be traced to the Tower of Babel whereas the event where the Disciples of Christ were reported to have been able to understand and dialogue with people of differing tongues is also generally referred to as “speaking in tongues” as being mimicked by present-day Christians who believe that this is a Gift of Above.
The two events are not the same and did not happen at the same time. Make your choice as to which one Jagaban was referring to!

KillSars:
We are getting there....
U agree that tongue means language
U agree that glossolalia means speaking in an unknown language..
But u no agree sey those tower guys speak in tongues, wetin come cause confusion wey u claim sey bring about tribalism..

KillSars:
I am not sure u know that tongue also means language, tongue in that context to you means glossolalia

Softmirror:
DO JEHOVAH WITNESS SPEAK IN TONGUES?

Trinitycian:
"We Inherited Speaking In Tongues from the Bible" has 2 interpretations and both are blasphemous.

INTERPRETATION ONE... (Acts 2)

Using this interpretation, Tinubu is saying we "Inherited" God's gift from the Bible. Speaking in Tongues is a gift, not an inheritance. It's a gift granted by the HOLY SPIRIT to speak languages the speaker DID NOT PREVIOUSLY KNOW. It's not Inherited, but gifted by the Holy Spirit.


(WRONG) INTERPRETATION TWO.. (Tower of Babel Genesis 11:1 - 9 )

This interpretation is even more blasphemous. Tower of Babel is a symbol of disunity. The confusion and disunity God afflicted them was punishment for their act of rebellion and arrogance. In other words, the story of Babel explains how /why we had different languages leading to confusion and tribalism and eventually disunity. So saying we inherited it from the Bible would mean we inherited our current disunity from the Bible.

So those linking what Tinubu said to the Tower of Babel should have a rethink.


WHY INTERPRETATION TWO IS WRONG...

Speaking In Tongues means "Gift of Tongues". In English, there's a term called 'collocation'. Collocation, according to Wikipedia "refers to a natural (predictable) combination of words that are closely affiliated with each other."
Speaking in Tongues has no affiliation with the Tower of Babel disunity. This is why if you trace the origin of 'speaking in Tongues', you won't see the story of Babel.

So my advice is that Tinubu should learn how to speak coherently before he inadvertently blaspheme against Islam. We know what would happen next.


NOTE: "Speaking in Tongues here is used within the context of the Bible.

KillSars:
U get wahala....
We dey learn everyday sha, if one speaks in his/her mother tongue, it has no link....
Ur own comprehension get as e be...

shinealight:
The link you cited has Nothing in it….it certainly does not address the question posed!
Anyway, who amongst you determines whether something is blasphemous or not ….is it for You, your Pastor, Bishop or Pope to say?
You guys are actually sinning more than you know…..because the occurrence of the Disciples speaking in tongues was an event occasioned by certain factors about which you know very little. As is their habit, people go to town mimicking what they do not understand.
All one can say about it all is: The Lord is not mocked!

gasparpisciotta:
You quoted Reno Omokri verbatim and it shows that you have nothing to offer upstairs

NothingDoMe:
Nah. 100% Muslim. Also a die hard supporter of Bubu.

shinealight:
What do we understand by we “inherited it from the Bible” as opposed to a Gift from the Holy Spirit or any other personality?
….and where does blasphemy come into all this….just curious oo!

Tareq1105:
You can inherit the gift of speaking in tongues at New Birth meaning as a child of God who has accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour, by adoption you have inherited it.

Remember, the Bible says that to them that believeth He gave them power (automatic) to become the sons and daughters of the Lord. And by adoption, we can cry Abba Father.

So, Tinubu hasn't said anything wrong. His words came out of deep research while some so called christians would not think or research well before contributing on the platform.

gasparpisciotta:
What language do you speak when you speak in tongues?

Are Nigerian languages and the state of the Nation not synonymous with the biblical Babel, even though the circumstances differ?

KillSars:
Already Read ur post bruv
The story of the Tower of Babel explains the origins of the multiplicity of languages. God was concerned that humans had blasphemed by building the tower to avoid a second flood so God brought into existence multiple languages. Thus, humans were divided into linguistic groups, unable to understand one another.
Now the one billion dollar question is, how is speaking in diverse language synonymous to discriminatory behavior called tribalism...
In ur post, u said tinubu blasphemed, How did tinubu blasphemed for referring to a text which state the origin of multiplicity of languages which was caused as a result of blasphemous act of mankind..

NothingDoMe:
Nope. He's a Muslim. Never hid it all his years in Nairaland.

NothingDoMe:
You are not even a Christian but you want to argue more than the Christians about Christian topics.

Are you more catholic than the pope?

shinealight:
[b]Please let’s relax and look at things dispassionately! The first Interpretation you cited is obviously what Tinubu meant….going by the story that preceded his comment….about Kayode sighting a version of the National Anthem and the need to marry that with the new version of the Anthem.
He therefore meant the phrase “inheriting speaking in tongues” as a positive attribute which was inherited from the Bible.
However, most of his listeners do not think deeply enough to appreciate this reference! As to your quibbling about his use of the word ‘inheritance’ instead of ‘gift’, I would posit that every Gift of the Holy Spirit is actually our inheritance…..this is because we humans are of the Spirit. As spirit-beings we inherited all the attributes of the Holy Spirit which include Purity, Love, and Justice among others. At the outset from the spiritual realm where we emanated from as spirit-seeds, we all carried within us “as inheritance”, those basic attributes and qualities which we are meant to develop further in the material worlds before the “mature ones” among us can then return home to Paradise to participate usefully in the ongoing activity at that higher realm! [/b]

KillSars:
U sef goof big time, did we inherit tribalism and disunity or we inherit diversity....

Una go just dey interpret anyhow with choice of words wey no gel

gasparpisciotta:
Copy and paste merchant

flamingREED:
I'm Obidient. But what I think he's saying is that we inherited different languages according to the biblical account of the tower of babel. But that is even why we should be prosperous (cos it's a symbol of our diversity).

gasparpisciotta:
Explain to me how collocation affects what Tinubu said and your own understanding of the argument.