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gasparpisciotta:
Blaming Reno for what?

Was Tinubu talking to Reno?

What nonsense did you see in Tinubu statement?

What is your own opinion? Don’t join the bandwagon? State what you think as an intellectual....

ajani2311:
We were thought summary in secondary school to avoid this kind of embarrassment on public forums

Lelelalalele:
OP made some powerful points. Destroy them with superior argument and not cheap, predictable insults

gasparpisciotta:
Please stop taking Reno serious

Trinitycian:
"We Inherited Speaking In Tongues from the Bible" has 2 interpretations and both are blasphemous.

INTERPRETATION ONE... (Acts 2)

Using this interpretation, Tinubu is saying we "Inherited" God's gift from the Bible. Speaking in Tongues is a gift, not an inheritance. It's a gift granted by the HOLY SPIRIT to speak languages the speaker DID NOT PREVIOUSLY KNOW. It's not Inherited, but gifted by the Holy Spirit.


(WRONG) INTERPRETATION TWO.. (Tower of Babel Genesis 11:1 - 9 )

This interpretation is even more blasphemous. Tower of Babel is a symbol of disunity. The confusion and disunity God afflicted them was punishment for their act of rebellion and arrogance. In other words, the story of Babel explains how /why we had different languages leading to confusion and tribalism and eventually disunity. So saying we inherited it from the Bible would mean we inherited our current disunity from the Bible.

So those linking what Tinubu said to the Tower of Babel should have a rethink.


WHY INTERPRETATION TWO IS WRONG...

Speaking In Tongues means "Gift of Tongues". In English, there's a term called 'collocation'. Collocation, according to Wikipedia "refers to a natural (predictable) combination of words that are closely affiliated with each other."
Speaking in Tongues has no affiliation with the Tower of Babel disunity. This is why if you trace the origin of 'speaking in Tongues', you won't see the story of Babel.

So my advice is that Tinubu should learn how to speak coherently before he inadvertently blaspheme against Islam. We know what would happen next.


NOTE: "Speaking in Tongues here is used within the context of the Bible.

stocktaker:
you are not a christian my brother you allowed politicks to get the better of you

FakeIgboJew:
Osu thread

madridguy:
Jagaban is right. Before you can argue with him, first visit Christ embassy church near you.

Kagd10:
What do you even know?

It's the same thing. Speaking in tongue is suddenly speaking in another new language on the spot which was what happened at Babel and at Pentecost.

You do know that some people have the gift of interpreting the new language they suddenly speak while some don't. It's still all about speaking in new language suddenly on the spot.

Obinoscopy:
When he talked about tongues from the Bible, he was referring to the Babylonian Tower where God made everyone speak in different tongues which is now responsible for human cultural/language diversity (Genesis 11:1 - 9).[/b]

kayperry:
Since when did shettima's looks count over whats in the bible, is he a bible scholar, xtain or pastor

Speaking in tongue is a gift from God, and its not out of place to call it inheritance, cos according to the bible teaching every devoted child of God will most likely have such gift.

we debate too much nonsense online ..

OBALOLA55:
MADRIDGUY WHAT YOUR OPINION ON THIS

Kagd10:
You're the one crying na.

Nigeria don't even need to divide before each ethnic started to rule his region. Your dummbbbbb brain don't know international law support it? That's why the British have Scotland, England, Wales, Ireland within Britain.

Your looting herdman, Atiku would only rule you in your village.

Kagd10:
See wailing already It's even Tinubu who actually support one Nigeria which some Yoruba don't even like. Now imagine when he doesn't care and minds his business

Meanwhile, if I were you, I would hide my head in shame because you're only showing you can't survive by yourself which is pathetic.

BATified2023:
u igbos never see anything

We know d worst u can do is to declare tinubu dead n continue killing your kinsmen thinking u are hurting Tinubu

Evanderbright:
You really wan kpai agbado urchins

Folashade Tinubu-Ojo, daughter of All Progressives Congress (APC) presidential candidate Bola Tinubu, says her father will use his experience as a former Lagos governor to develop Nigeria.

Mr Tinubu was governor of Lagos from 1999 to 2007.

Ms Tinubu-Ojo, the head of Lagos markets (Iyaloja General), said this on Thursday in Abuja while accepting her appointment as grand patroness of a support group, the Tinubu Vanguard.

The Tinubu Vanguard is a flagship support group for the realisation of Mr Tinubu’s presidential ambition.

According to Ms Tinubu-Ojo, since his father governed the state well, he will surely excel as president, noting that Mr Tinubu is best positioned to consolidate President Muhammadu Buhari’s achievements.

“The present government has done well in many areas, but there is still much to be done. Tinubu’s presidency will surely consolidate on present achievements and improve in other areas,” said Ms Tinubu-Ojo.

The director-general of the campaign group, Benjamin Johnny, said the quest for a better Nigeria was the reason behind the group.

Mr Johnny said Nigeria needed the experience of a leader like Mr Tinubu to tackle its worsening economic and security crises.

He added that the choice of Ms Tinubu-Ojo as grand patroness was informed by her proven passion for humanity in her role as Iyaloja.

“Tinubu is now a father to all Nigerian progressives who see him as a symbol of excellence and service delivery, and we are committed to ensuring his success at the polls,” he added.

A meeting of former presidential aspirants of the All Progressives Congress scheduled for Abuja on Wednesday failed to hold.

The postponement of the meeting was announced a few hours to its commencement.

The PUNCH gathered that the meeting was cancelled because of the non-commitment of the aspirants, many of whom had indicated that they would not be available.

One of the aspirants, Dr Nicolas Felix, in a statement on Monday, said those who contested against the APC presidential candidate, Bola Tinubu at the presidential primary, would converge on Abuja at 2 pm on Wednesday.

Felix said, “We will also brainstorm on adopting winning campaign strategies to support our standard-bearer, Bola Tinubu, and seek to carry every Nigerian along in our bid to coast home to victory in the 2023 general elections.”

But before the meeting was scheduled to start, Felix announced its postponement, stating that a new date would be announced. He, however, did not give the reason for the cancellation of the roundtable.

Felix’s statement read, “Please be informed that the strategic meeting of 2023 Presidential Aspirants of the All Progressives Congress, scheduled to hold on Wednesday the 31st of August has been postponed.

“A new date for the meeting will be communicated soon. Apologies for any inconvenience(s) that this might cause.”

The aborted meeting sought to address a number of factors such as a conciliatory move to reconcile aggrieved members, challenges bedevilling the country, inclusive politics and adoption of winning campaign strategies to coast home to victory ahead of the 2023 general elections.

Among those expected were Vice President Yemi Osinbajo; former Minister of Transportation, Rotimi Amaechi; former Science and Technology Minister, Ogbonnaya Onu; former Minister of State for Education, Chukwuemeka Nwajiuba and former Minister of Niger Delta Affairs, Godswill Akpabio.

Five serving governors, namely Yahaya Bello (Kogi), Dave Umahi (Ebonyi), Abubakar Badaru (Jigawa), Ben Ayade (Cross River) and Kayode Fayemi (Ekiti) were also expected.

Others were the President of the Senate, Ahmad Lawan; former Ogun State governor and serving senator, Ibikunle Amosun; a serving senator, Ajayi Boroffice; former Zamfara governor, Ahmad Sani; former Imo State governor and serving senator, Rochas Okorocha; a former Senate President, Ken Nnamani, a former Speaker of the House of Representatives, Dimeji Bankole; fiery cleric, Tunde Bakare; Pastor and Businessman, Dr Nicolas Felix; former Information Minister, Ikeobasi Mokelu; Businessman, Tein Jack-Rich and the only female among them, Uju Ken-Ohanenye.

One of the aspirants who abandoned the parley, however, told our correspondent that the move by Felix, the youngest APC aspirant, to reunite all the aspirants, especially the aggrieved ones, was an effort in futility.

The APC chieftain, who pleaded anonymity, further disclosed that the body language of the presidential aspirants and some party members who participated in the presidential primary was clear.

“We can’t be seen converging for anything that has to do with Asiwaju (Bola Tinubu, APC presidential candidate) at this critical moment. Not even when the presidential candidate himself is seeing the majority of us as not being instrumental to his winning the 2023 election.

“I must say Felix has tried his best. But it is not his duty to call for such a conciliatory meeting. That initiative was dead on arrival. Both the party and Asiwaju himself have a lot of work to do before the 2023 election,” he said.

But another source disclosed that the event failed to hold because none of the aspirants showed up, noting that most of them were unhappy with Tinubu.

Also a source in the Tinubu campaign team, said Felix did not have the mandate to convene the meeting.

The source stated, “He is on his own. Nobody told him to convene the meeting. He did not carry other aspirants along. The meeting is not pro-Tinubu meeting.”

When asked if Governor Bello had any grievances against the APC presidential candidate, the Director of Media and Publicity for Yahaya Bello Presidential Campaign Organisation, Mrs Yemi Kolapo, dismissed the report.

Kolapo maintained that the Kogi State governor was committed to working for Tinubu’s victory ahead of the February 25 presidential poll.

She said, “You are listening to rumours. Has the campaign even started? If there is one aspirant that is totally committed to a landslide win for the APC presidential candidate in the 2023 election, that aspirant is Governor Yahaya Bello.

“Asiwaju Bola Tinubu is tested and trusted. And with the great support we have right now across the country, he will be the next President. Don’t let us create a crisis where there is none.”

Female aspirant
The only female presidential aspirant on the platform of the party, Ohanenye, said she could not attend the meeting because her mother was sick.

“I took permission that I won’t be able to come; my mother is not feeling well. I told the convener I won’t be able to make it,’’ she told The PUNCH.

Asked why the Senate President did not attend the event, Lawan’s Special Adviser, Mr Ola Awoniyi, simply said he had not been briefed.

The media aide to the former Niger Delta Affairs Minister, Aniete Ekong, promised to find out why his principal did not attend the programme. But he failed to respond to subsequent phone calls from our correspondent.

Osinbajo could not be reached for comment on Wednesday as his media aide, Laolu Akande, did not respond to calls. He had yet to reply to a text message sent to him as of the time of filing this report.

However, he had earlier issued a statement early on Wednesday that Osinbajo travelled to the United States to attend an energy summit.

The development, it was learnt, might have been responsible for his failure to attend the APC presidential aspirants’ strategy session.

He indicated that the VP left Abuja for the US to seek global partnerships and support for Nigeria’s recently launched Energy Transition Plan.

The release noted the ETWG, which will be chaired by the vice-president, would equally have ministers and other top government officials in attendance.

Publicity secretary

As of the time of filing this report, the National Publicity Secretary of the APC, Felix Morka, could not be reached for reaction. Calls to his phone rang out and he had yet to respond to a text message on the issue.

But the Director of Media and Communications for Tinubu Campaign Organisation, Bayo Onanuga, defended the absence of the former Lagos State governor and his running mate, Kashim Shettima, saying they were not aware of the strategy meeting.

“We can’t be there because it was not a meeting of the presidential campaign council or the party itself. Besides, the candidate and his running mate are not aware of it.

“It was somebody’s initiative that I think was not well communicated. Although I can’t explain why it was cancelled,  maybe the presidential aspirants should tell you why they didn’t turn up.”

Tinubu had defeated former Minister of Transportation, Rotimi Amaechi; Vice President Yemi Osibanjo and 12 others to clinch the sole ticket at the APC Presidential primary on June 7.

He polled 1, 271 votes to emerge victorious at the end of the Special National Convention of the party on Wednesday in Abuja.

The race for the presidential standard bearer started with 23 aspirants, but nine withdrew shortly before the commencement of voting at the convention.

In a related development, there was a show of shame on Wednesday at the APC national secretariat when a group of APC youths loyal to Tinubu engaged security details loyal to the National Chairman of the party, Senator Abdullahi Adamu, in a free-for-all over the election of the National Association of the Nigerian Students.

The fracas, which occurred on the eve of the election to swear in new NANS executives slated for Thursday, saw the young party members converging at the entrance of the secretariat in protest.

The protest was led by Segun Dada, one of the former aspirants who stepped down for the current APC National Youth Leader, Dayo Israel.

Dada was said to have arrived at the secretariat, on the directive of the youth leader, to lodge a complaint during the National Working Committee meeting on how some elements suspected to be elements of the opposition Peoples Democratic Party planned to hijack Thursday’s NANS elections.

The young APC member and his ‘boys’ however met stiff resistance from the armed guards at the national secretariat.

To disperse the demonstrators, the security details shot several canisters of tear gas into the crowd, an action that led to a stampede with some of the students attempting to force their way in.

The rowdy crowd forced the operatives to beef up security at the secretariat with additional men.

A source within the secretariat told our correspondent that the security details were acting on the directive of the APC national chairman not to grant access to the NANS members, adding that the students were attempting to disrupt a meeting of the party’s NWC which was still in progress.

He said, “Dada’s attempt and desperation to force his way with his delegation resulted in the police using teargas on him and others, which infuriated them, leading to the situation becoming rowdy.

“The surprising thing is that Dada is not a stranger at the secretariat because he worked for some years here. But, he was not, however diplomatic in handling the situation otherwise, it would not have degenerated to the extent of using several canisters of teargas to disperse them.

“Yes, Dada was on a genuine mission to brief the leadership on how PDP elements in APC have hijacked the election, as directed by the youth leader.

“But what we cannot understand was why he came with those hefty boys that fought the security agents. It was bad that the Chief Security Officer of the party was molested by those boys that came with Dada”.

Speaker of Lagos State House of Assembly, Mudashiru Obasa, has urged Nigerians to elect leaders based on competence,  rather than dwelling on the religious bias for the 2023 presidential elections.

Obasa made this known at the 14th Annual Hijrah Lecture organised by the Lagos assembly’s Muslim community at the assembly complex in Lagos on Wednesday.

Obasa also urged religious bodies to deploy energy on issues that would unite Nigerians rather than dwelling on issues that would divide the nation.

garfield1:
Obi needs to win nc and get some votes in core north

Kagd10:
Did you see Nothing hill in London yesterday? There was no Nigeria flag there. That should tell you whatsup already. Lol

Kagd10:
Your looting herdsman, Atiku will only rule his fellow herdsman.

Kagd10:
Tinubu also supported Jonathan in 2011. So what are you saying exactly? Wasn't Atiku in APC who was shouting it's the Northern time blah blah blah in 2015?

Advocate500:
I foresee another agitation of great magnitude inmanating from South West after 2023.