Empiree: you obviously didn't listen to the clip or deceiving yourself before typing poo. Christianity?. that fabricated religion?. Yusuf and many others trashed it.
MuttleyLaff, you damn sure you twisted stuff. That's your problem. Oh i see your moniker is suspicious. Na u sabi.
You are an al-taqiyya artist. In a national forum like this, you attached an audio message in yoruba language with the believ that one one will take time to analyse it.
Why is arab-muslims murderous and yoruba muslims are not? Answer the question bros.
MuttleyLaff: Why did Ustauz Yusuf have to say the 1st caller, obviously an elder, has no manners or had no home training lessons
Why is Ustauz Yusuf particularly concerned if the 2nd caller is a pastor, a prophet or what church the caller fellowships in
Why did Ustauz Yusuf at 12:40 had to say the 2nd caller is stewpid or silly (i.e. ani e go) and insinuating at 13:09 - 13:15 that the 2nd caller is an animal that doesnt want to listen
Why did at 22:12 - 22:43, 24:05, 24:25-24:31 Ustauz Yusuf had to say "this is what is called a demonstration of madness" at the 2nd caller's prayers
The 3rd caller was a drive-by "christian", an Islam returnee, returning back to Islam
Concerning Boko Haram raised by 3rd caller at 27.24- 27.26, Ustauz Yusuf at 27:34- 27:41 asked the 3rd caller whether or not Boko Haram kills muslims and non muslims at all
Also at 28:00 - 28:16 Ustauz Yusuf wanted to know of any cases of Muslims killing Christian in Yoruba land in the name of Islam
but Ustauz Yusuf, unwittingly at 27:41, actually was about confirming truthman2012's submission that if going by Bukhari (60:80) and Bukhari (59:643), Yorubas like Ustauz Yusuf and the 3rd caller have no place to be in Islam
Truth be told, this guy, Ustauz Yusuf, is a smooth talker/operator... + mixing up Americans waging war against terrorism etc, Delta militants fighting against environmental pollution, oppression etc with Religion (i.e. ''esin'') + mixing up Judaism with Christianity + mixing up Christian RELIGION with the Christian FAITH & LOVE + mentioning bible verses is not the same as understanding the religious system etc prevailing at the particular time of those bible verses + mixing up A christian alleged claim to commit atrocities with muslims actually commituing atrocities + claiming to judge the Bible on its words or content but evasive to judge the Quran on its word or content + claimed to not force any to Islam but Sahih Muslim (1:33) and Bukhari (60:80) says otherwise + how is it that the last prophet and the Quran have some many socially unacceptable baggages taken advantage of in the 21 century? + distorting baptisms to 3rd caller, gave a misleading or false impression that it is an opportunity to caress women SMH LOL
The 3rd caller should have counter asked Ustauz Yusuf how many Christians in the 21st century, shout Praise the Lord, the Lord is Good when killing harmless people or when about decimating innocent people
Yourubas, by nature, love life and partying and would not like dying unnecessarily. An average arab does not love life, humour or partying so to them (the arabs), life is meaningless.
Hence you can see arab-muslim suicide bomber, but a yorubaman cant do it. You can easily see arab-muslims cutting throats of infidels but yoruba cant do it. You can see arab-muslims killing apostates but to the yoruba, religion is like political party where you can defect at anytime without qualms.
An arab muslim can burn churches if slightly offended but a yoruba muslim gat no time for that. A yoruba-muslim can give his daughter to a yoruba christian in marriage, but an arab-muslim will kill his daughter (honour killings) for dating a christian.
Ironically, yoruba-muslims are regarded as fake and hypocrites for not behaving like the arab-muslims (which the hausa and fulanis do) hence not following the foot-steps on the islamic prophet (peace be upon me).
harbiola1: pls if I may ask Op, what is the purpose of this thread? op alone pls...
He asked for an advise and we let him understand the dangers of trusting muslims for ones personal security because of their (muslims) application of al-taqiyya against we infidels.
An Igbo proverb says and I quote: 'when a tree learnt that it will be cut-down it won't move and inch, but when a man learnt that he will be killed he will run for his dear life'.
So my brother, pls run for your dear life, never trust a fulani or an arab muslim, they have the same wicked DNA. They have perfected the art of al-taqiyya for over 1000yrs and won't adjust because of you (an Igbo kafir).
Empiree: Shut up already and admit your defeat. You are done like dinner. You are defeated. Yea, run away.
Islamic version of victory when you dnt have any good thing to say about 'profit' mohammed. God punish satan for manipulating mohammed to lust after a 6yr old little girl, to commit genocide against harmless Jew, to encouraging incestt by marrying little aisha his first cousin , to lust after his adopted son's wife hence cancelling adpotion in the muslim\arab world.
May Mo's soul rot in hell for all the chaos he had created and which his follower are creating globally today, folowing after his footsteps.
onetrack: Atheist here. This whole issue of Muhammad marrying a 6-year-old girl is not a big deal from a historical perspective, as it is rightly pointed out that many cultures have accepted child marriage until quite recent times. I personally do not use the 'Muhammad-as-pedophile' approach, as he was a man of his time.
The problem is that Muslims hold up Muhammad as the role model for all of humanity for all time.
Whether or not some European ruler married a 6 year old back in the year 1400 doesn't really matter because nobody would consider him to be best man in history, worthy of being imitated until the end of time, unlike Muslims who are expected to try to imitate the life of Muhammad as the proper way of living. As a result, any Muslim who is against child marriage could be rightly criticised from a strict Islamic point of view. The Quran even gives instructions on how to divorce your pre-pubescent wife. Considering that Islam is considered to be final and unchangeable, this means that child marriage can never really be outlawed in an Islamic state. That, in my view, is a problem.
I would note that Christianity does not actually forbid child marriage either, and that neither religion forbids slavery.
Whichever way you see it, a 51yr old man going after a 6yr old little girl is sick, irrespective of the culture or religion, let alone a man whose follower call 'the perfect man'. Using culture and moral equivalence as an excuse is despicable. No sane society operates properly under such barbarity.
A man who called himself a religios leader, like mohammed did, should operate on a higher moral pedastal than his contemporaries and not to debase himself so low in the name of culture. Mohammed didn't not lead by example in a positive way.
usermane: Because in most cases Hadith lovers have a hard time coming to terms with gross hadith teachings. Empiree, is talking about science of hadith, according to this so called science of hadith, the hadith that reported Muhammad married and cohabited with 9 years old Aisha is Authentic.
Sorry to ask, is 'science' of the hadith a social science, natural science, applied science, physical science or what?
when I was a boy, like 2 or 3, my late grandfather used to take me to bathroom whenever he wanted to bath and, sub-conciously, even as a small boy, I used to imagine why his John Thomas is bigger than mine. Till date I can remeber those images vividly.
Having sex in presence of a child, as long as s\he can see, can program a wrong information on his\her mind which can never be erased. It is NEVER advisable.
Empiree: Records I posted speak volume. Don't worry yourself about empire. There are bunch of non muslims especially White folks in Saudi Arabia; and are enjoying Saudi riyal and are even treated a lot better than their fellow arabs and muslims. And troubled countries you mentioned up there, the fact that you even asked that question shows that you have no clue about the essence of eschatology which i highlighted on Ifeann's silly thread weeks earlier. So go and study eschatology to be able to comprehend the world today
This is the third time muslims will be invading europe en-mass. The first two were on military expedition and were soundly beaten and expelled back to north africa and arab land. What makes you think they wont be deported en-mass when push comes to shove.
Muslims' claim of escathology by invading foreign lands and conqurring and subjugating them can only work in weak africa and asia countries. In america and europe, they will soon be expelled as usual.
Radical groups like PEGIDA, EDL, and other far-right groups are already voicing their concern on uncontrolled muslim immigrations into their country. With the right govt in place, the inlux will be pushed back into their islamic hell-holes. Austrialia had already started it, austria is regulating islamic activities now, Germans are not happy with muslims, native british are against muslims and new mosques, americans are against muslim migrations.
No sane country trust muslims\Islam anymore. The usual mantra that 'only small % of muslims are radicals', 'Islam isthe religion of peace', 'you cant place 1.5billion muslims in one basket', 'they have hijacked our religion' and other excuses are no longer working.
If muslims don't adjust, the will soon be expelled again.