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And yet Nigerians will be following Italian pope and their catholic religion.

The Arabs will be laughing at the stupidity of blackmen for propagating their (Arabs) ignorance and foolishness.

This APC MURIC jihadist has been quiet for sometime. Perhaps Timubu had called him to keep quiet for the time-bejng.

Lexy123O:
trying so much to sound intelligent, but You end up writing long incoherent nonsense.
Most people have the same view about lgtbq . Do they asked for them to be killed ? No.
I reiterated, you shouldn’t have compared what Datti said with Reno’s tweet.

Datti’s view is that of an extremist.

You are the one not getting it. Reno and Datti share the same viwe concerning homosexuality. They both condemned and derided the practice. The problem here is why will Reno condemn Datti's judgement on homosexuals when he himself called people who support homosexuals FOOLS?

3ple9iner:
Is he the only Muslim how many Muslims have you seen supporting him. I as a Muslim don't even regard him because his behaviors shows he his being sponsored and he has no knowledge of Islam.

He is a professor in Arabic and Islamic studies. What is your qualification sir?

Empiree:
So which Allah you believe in?. There is nothing like "Islamic Allah". There is only one Allah. When you finish deceiving yourself you let me know.

Allah is a generic name for God in Arabic lexicon. The Allah an Arab Christian believes is different form the Allah a Muslim Arab calls. I believe in the Christian Allah and not the Islamic allah.

Empiree:
Since you don't believe in Allah which means you don't believe in God, why should I waste my time with you?.. case closed, buddy.

I said 'I don't in ISLAMIC Allah'. Read to understand bro.

Empiree:
You are a comedian. First all, do you believe in Allāh?

No I don’t believe in Islamic allah.

Empiree:
Second, if you file petition against someone for calling you "mad man" and you go to court and court asks you to present your evidence but in your evidence there is no mentioned of your name other than "mad man", do you think you have a valid case?. Judge will tell you that defendant didn't mention your name. Hence, your case will be thrown out of the window. So your case against Muslims in sura fathia is invalid. We do not mention other faith in the sura.. lobatan

We are not in a court of law and I am judging based on the words and the interpretation of your scholars on suratu fathiha 5-6. I am not making a case against muslims but pointing out the fact that Muslims are obsessed with the Jews and Christians everyday of their lives and even codified it in the quran.

Empiree:
Qur'an says "guide us to the right path but not the path of those who earn God's anger nor of those who go astray". If you are not astray why are you worried? For the fact that you are so worried means you know deep than you are astray. You're conscience is giving you sleepless night.

That I am not a Muslims does not mean I have gone astray. You cannot use your biased religious book to judge my disposition. That I don’t believe in allah and his messenger doesn’t mean I am lost. Beliefs are subjective and based on whoever practices it. My only condemnation is your codifying the vilification of other faiths in your daily prayer. That’s a recipe for hatred and even violence.

PHYTECH:
How does that justify the act.

Can we say the pastor's, catholic priests and Christian leaders LovePeddler raping, doing rituals and burning abortion clinics with human in them. Can we say they took.the inspiration from bible ??

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror , and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures

sahih bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220:

PHYTECH:
Muslims do not kill, only murderers do.

The issue happening in Nigeria is a case of some hooligans disturbing the peace of the country. If it were Fulanisation/Islamisation of Nigeria, Hundreds of Thousands of Northerners won't have lost their lives to bandits and herdsmen.

It's not possible to want to Islamise a nation and be killing those practicing that religion at 90-100% it's simply enemies of the state, may Almighty Allah ease our Affairs.

But the so-called murderers are reading and following the hadith and the sunnah.

Lukuluku69:
Brilliant bro! Just brilliant.

After reading this he should make up his mind where he belongs.

Olodo congratulating his fellow olodo. Muslims are clowns!

Empiree:
Your conscience doesn't allow you to rest, right?. You are worried because you know you are astray as the verses rightly said. It is true that it is debatable since Quran doesn't explicitly mention Jews and CHRISTIANS. For me personally, it is exactly Jews and CHRISTIANS the most probable religious societies alluded to because these two and Islam have undeniable historic moments and especially with Quran makes lots of references to them and their characteristics with respect to belief system. There is no doubt the Ayah is referring to matter of belief.

You are a comedian bro. I am pointing out the fact that Muslims subtly attack the Jews and the Christians anytime they pray, especially if they recite the suratu alfathiha. This is a malicious kind of prayer against people of opposing faith. And to even think that this surah is a word of allah is a joke. How can allah be praying in suratu al-fathiha and if the prayer is by mohammed then who is the one speaking in surah one of the quran?

Empiree:
We may also say these ayat are speaking generally about any religious communities like Hinduism, Buddhists, etc. They too are misguided mushrikun and we seen in the Quran that Allah chastised mushrikun (idolaters)and their wickedness along with Jews (Q 5:82). In this ayah (Q 5:82), it clearly said it out loud that the Jews (not all) and idolaters (not all) have the same traits of hatred for Islam and muslims.

This is pure conjecture. All your tafsir, notable ibn kathir, ibn jalalalyn and even ibn Masud said surah 1 ayah 5-6 is about the Jews and the Christians. You seem to have little or no knowledge about your own sources.

Empiree:
Now let's look to see evidence in our contemporary world. Look at India, majority Hindus (idolaters). China majority Buddhists (idolaters). Burma majority Buddhists (idolaters). Israel majority Jews has very close relation with India...israel-india alliance against their muslim neighbors. See how India is treating Kashmir (majority muslims). See how israel is treating Palestinians (majority muslims). See how China is treating her muslim citizens by destroying Masajid and putting muslims in concentration camps. See Burma caged Muslims like chickens. So you can see Jews and mushrikun behave same way exactly like they did in history and at the time Quran was revealed. This kind of behavior earns Allah's anger.

You have also forgotten that the Pakistanis treat non-muslims like animals. You have also forgotten that the Sudanese treat the black non-Muslims Africans as slaves. You also failed to mention that non-Muslims can never hold the office of the president in Indonesia. Should I also tell you that, except you are an expatriate the Saudis don’t allow non-Muslims into their countries. The Muslims are worse when it comes to treating non-Muslims badly. Should I remind you that there is no religious freedom almost in all the Arab Muslim countries? The point you raised above is laced with Islamic hypocrisy.

Empiree:
Christians on the other hand are portrayed in the Ayah as "dolal" i:e misguided or astray. But they are not necessarily wicked because there are section of them (eastern Orthodox) which shows love and affection for Muslims. Unfortunately, you, Mr. True2god sorry, false2god belongs to wicked section of CHRISTIANITY. What you said above however is from your own twisted notion. So verses 6 & 7, we pray that we don't earn God's anger like these wicked communities I mentioned above. And we also pray that we are never astray(as CHRISTIANs) and stand firm on the right Path that Allah is pleased with, Al-Islam.

Thank God that you admitted that there are sections of Christianity/Christians who traditionally show love to Muslims. Should I remind you that when the 1st Muslims community was persecuted, they ran to Christian Ethiopia for refuge? Show me a single instance where Muslims show love to Christians. And please show me a section of Christianity that never gone astray.

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Tianamen1:
Dear Author,

Nigeria's current problems with inflation stem for decisions made in the last 12 years. Decisions such as GEJ not saving funds in the excess crude account, to Buhari not raising taxes on the rich and/or reducing recurrent expenditure (reduced compensation for public servants and reducing the number of MDA's)

Nigeria's future problems include the shift to renewables which is being hastened by the Russian invasion of Ukraine as you rightly noted.

Between 2011 and 2014, crude prices average over $110 per barrel and the local cost for a liter of petrol without subsidies in naira was about 140(the amount GEJ set it to before the subsidy protest). the increase in price of diesel isn't as a result of crude oil prices but as a result of the reasons I stated in paragraph 1.

As Milton Friedman said " inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon", so it is true that Nigeria is on a path to hyperinflation because it cannot focus on handling its macroeconomics issues.

You correctly identified the problem, but your solutions would not work.

Nigeria needs to raise taxes on imported goods such as cars, phones, building materials. Basically, tax things that rich people spend money on apart from food, to limit the demand for dollars within the country. This will aid the accretion of our foreign reserves and excess crude account, thus stopping the bleeding of the Naira.

The government should also consider reducing the cost of governance by reducing the number of MDA (implementing the Oronsaye report) and reducing public servants allowances and pay.

This is how to reduce the price of diesel.

You have mental issue if you are still blaming GEJ for the suffering this evil APC govt is making Nigerians face on a daily basis.

Abortion is a morality crime. US gradually regaining their sanity. the next is to ban all LGBT nonsense.

Thank God for DJ Trump. To hell for all the left-wing and liberals who are destroying the moral fabric of the modern society.

When will he become the emir?

Grandemperor:
..........
It is called Affirmative Action Program; and it is done all over the world. California 1976/1977, a white dude who had a higher score than a black dude was denied admission into medical school due to Affirmative Action. The Caucasian fought his case to the Supreme Court, and got admitted to the medical school.

So in this case the Igbos are the Caucasians and the Hausas are the black dudes? Which school in the US does a black dude need to score 10% of the total mark and get admitted with Affirmative action? Mention 1 school abeg.

Boyfriends refused to pay.

surah 9 ayah 29:

Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

Ibkhaleel:
we dont mind because Christians vote is useless.... If you like gather and reject the muslim m ticked ... He'll still. Win....Kaduna state is enough for you as a case study....


Shameless people...

Kaduna is not Nigeria. And I think it's a matter of time that your evil and ignorant northen are sent to back to Nger republic and Chad to reunite with your fellow terrorist Muslim cousins. Your jihadist plan is a failure on arrival. If you think a Muslim will rule this country for 24 years (Bukhari, Tinubu and another Muslim) you are a joker and an idiot

Ibkhaleel:
Shameless people opening their dirty mouth against Muslim Muslim ticket


Is their Justice to Muslims in any of the xtians dominated states in Nigeria?

The Muslim Muslim ticket is giving them
sleepless night.
As if they are in APC.
The two northern Christian states are anti Muslims.
Benue and Plateau strangled Muslim
minorites out of politics since 1999.

The Minority Muslims experience what lgbo Muslim face in many areas.
Also, Plateau that is APC in Governorship
election is always PDP in presidential. This means, APC has always lose there.
Benue is PDP in both course. And APC lose like pack of cards in presidential election.
In fact, these two states and their Christians have the worse PROPAGANDA against
Muslims in Nigeria.

The south east is a Christian zone and
Muslims or APC aren't welcomed. APC alway lose all South East states in presidential elections.

These are places where Christian dominates wholesomely in Nigeria.
Why should APC zone a ticket to a people that will never vote for you to win?
Even with a pastor, they didn't vote you onto victory.

No sensible human invest in a lose.
Muslims of the north are waiting for Tinubu to show that political unity between Muslims
of the south and north will be reciprocated
with picking of Muslim from the North. Any attempt to pick who isn't a northern Muslim is a win for Atiku and his PDP. It is like somebody getting to gate of heaven then decided to commit adultery.
(1 am constrained to write this because I see blunders from people on this and CAN who equally never wanted Muslim as governor or deputy in Benue and Plateau, in South East and south South states are opening their gallon mouths over something they never worked for and will never do for Muslims if
muslims were minority in Nigeria. Politics is numerical

This is a national issue and not a state issue. Christians are not slaves to Muslims in Nigeria. It Tinubu presents a Muslim VP no Christian will agree to arrangements especially with Islamic terror going on in Nigeria. Nobody with his right senses will trust political Islam and their mindset of conquering the kuffar.

We should then allow APC to drag us into hell fire. This people are pure evil

The count of monte cristo.

Reno the 2-faced and evil man

This is pure comedy.

This is pure comedity.

jhydebaba:
80% of which are Yorubas. Yorubas been investing in education from time immemorial. God bless Yorubas.

The are 9 students. 5 Yoruba, 3 Igbo and 1 Urhobo.

Yoruba: 55.56%

Igbo :33.3%

Urhobo: 11.1%

You are a poor math student.

skentelelady:
Please who did SE present to run under APC? why are the blaming Pyo abd Bat for their failure. Tinubu should step down for Osinbajo please. His Muslim Muslim/ northern Christian will never work. Pyo christian/ northern muslims ticket will still work

Instead of SE to join force with SW to prevent poser returning to north, the bitterness against yoruba willlprevent thus from happening. When power goes back to north and they are sidelined for another 8years, they start blaming Awolowo and lord lingard


I dont like Jonathan but if he becomes the consensus candidate I will rather vote for him instead of Atiku

The same way the yorubas join forces with Goodlluck Jonathan. Clown!

usermane:
Asalam alaykum

I think it must be near two years since I posted here. I paused posting because I got more preoccupied with life. I planned on returning to complete some unfinished threads here but not this soon. Anyway, I was forced out because the Muslim community is making headline again, and as before, it is for a bad reason.

I just want to share my thoughts on the recent incident at Sokoto state, but rather than spill it directly, I'll do so by responding to one of the current post from this section on the front page.

https://www.nairaland.com/7128270/these-red-lines-must-not



OK, so can we insult God? As in G O D, the creator of the universe in monotheistic religions? Pay attention to his language. He makes it sound like Allah is a sort of local or tribal god among Muslims, like Zeus was to the ancient Greeks and Shango is to Yoruba pagans. So, it's like if you insult the creator of the universe, Luk.gaf & his group of like minded Muslims don't care. It is only when you use the Arabic word, Allah, that he cares.

This is a very silly thing, since most Muslims will tell you that Allah is God, the creator of the universe. Allah is the Arabic word for God. In the Bible which Muslims recognize as previous revelations by Allah, there is no mention of "Allah," and what you will find there are non-Arabic terms for God like Yahweh or Elloi.



This is bluffing. Empty bluffing. Nobody can tell whether the Qur'an has been corrupted or not. To do that, you'd have to have on one hand the original copy written by Muhammad or written or by his scribe under his dictation, and then have on the other hand today's copy to compare verse by verse.

As we don't have any extant copy from Muhammad for comparison, we can only make speculations, we can't certify or confirm. Hence when he states that "It has not & CANNOT be corrupted." This demonstrate profound ignorance and borderline stupidity at best.

Till date, there has been no copy of the complete Qur'an traceable to Muhammad. And among the parchments of Qur'an fragments we've uncovered from the late 7th, 8th & 9th century, some of them like the undertext of the Sanaa palimpsest presents significant variation from today's Qur'an.



OK, what is this -

"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as saying: Allah's curse to be on the Jews, they made the graves of their Prophets mosques."

How do you think Christians and Jews will take this? You expect them to respect a man that addresses them this way? Is the Prophet's statement not provocative here?

There are many provocative things that Muhammad did according to your traditional Muslim sources. So, I'm sorry but I don't think anyone should be forced to respect Muhammad. Respect is something that is earned, not demanded.



OK.



Alright, how does anyone manage to contradict themselves so much in the same paragraph. There is nothing like Mohammedanism but Muhammad(not Allah, apparently) is the symbol and most revered figure of Islam. You will not kill if anyone insult Jesus or Abraham but you will kill for Mohammed.

This is Mohammedanism and the orientalists were spot on.



The sahabas didn't think of themselves this way. The sahabas fought and disputed among themselves after Muhammad. Just read Muslim history from the Battle of Camel till the Massacre of Karbala. If you want to call for respect for the sahabas, I get it. But by dubbing them the best generation after Muhammad, you're setting a low bar for Muslims.

The sahabas invaded Persia and other empires they had no business with, cementing Islam's image as a militarily aggressive religion. Even on an individual level, the sahabas were often entitled(like Abu Bakr), aggressive(like Umar), cunning & deceitful(like Abu Huraira) individuals.

So, this entire post which makes front page is abysmal. It seem catered to kindergartens children or low IQ Muslims who would rather learn Islam from quaternary sources like the Luk.gaf instead of delving into the primary sources for themselves. And what makes it worse is the timing.

A young woman was lynched to death for insulting Islam earlier this week. And today, Luk.gaf springs to the frontpage with one post were he tries to damage control for the Muslim community and another post where he exposes his apathy for the victim by speaking about "Red Lines" that musn't be crossed.

Traditionally, in Islam, red lines are things like Idol worshiping, homicide, adultery. Luk.gaf never mention any, he just jumps to respect, respect and respect. Again, respect is something that is earned, not demanded. If you have to demand it, you don't deserve it.

Notice in the entirety of this post, he never once expressed horror or remorse that a young woman was killed. This is unfortunately the attitude of loads of Muslims. They condemned the manner Deborah was killed but they conclude she or anyone who insult the prophet deserves death.

To them the homicide itself is nothing. If you force these Muslims to do one; either kill an innocent man or insult the prophet. They'll kill the man. That's the level of mental derangement & religion induced psychopathy we're dealing with here.

I had this discussion with my own family. And not even one of them could bring themselves to say that it is too extreme to kill someone for insulting Muhammad whether the killing was by a street mob or authorized by a legal sharia court. They couldn't. It was a bitter pill for me.

So, in 2022, this many Muslims still think it is OK to kill someone for insulting their religion, even when they can neither prove the Qur'an is from God or unchanged. It is a terrible thing. And I think it is time to adopt a more drastic approach towards this problem.

You know, I look at Palestine, you have Arab Muslims bemoaning Israeli/Jewish occupation & oppression. I looked at Sweden last month, and you have Muslim immigrants protesting Islamophobia, racism and discrimination. And I'm starting to ask myself, "I'm suppose to empathize with these Muslims?"

I'm suppose to feel bad for and advocate on behalf of a group of people of whom 50 to 75 percent think it is OK to kill someone for insulting their religion?

You have always been very logical and academical even when you were a Muslim. I enjoy reading many of your post.

parisbookaddict:
It's unfortunate that so many Muslims are happy that a young woman was gruesomely murdered because she simply asked that her classmates should not post so many religious stories on a WhatsApp group for academics.

How can u find joy in ur heart that she was murdered. I understand many people are brainwashed to believing all sorts of things but what makes you believe that killing a blasphemer is acceptable.

Is it in the Quran. Can a Muslim answer this?

My sister its been a while. I thought you have converted to Islam.