₦airaland Forum

ElSudani:
You are very wrong, the election of Abiola and Tofa has proven that northerners don't vote on religion alone.

this is not 1993, our divide is official

People were United in wanting an end to military regime and abiola was the face popularly at the time, seccesion wasn't rife

Today north have taken advantage of this democracy, today the call for change of government and apc is large, today north have mastered the act of siding with it's own

Abdulmumin412:
And also any Muslim that see this your username and still thread the path you follow or listen to you is not a Muslim.

it makes no difference

North should vote it's own fulani Muslim, to protest against south

Na so he reach Las Las

The foolish thing by this tinubu mistake is that it provokes southern christians who would provoke northern Muslims who would just punish tinubu that is half Muslim and also southernern

DeleTaller:
Swear to God that you don't have a Muslim as your relative and even as friends. Religion has nothing to do with good governance.

I am a Christian and me and my family members are going to vote for Tinubu.

you can only play this dumb shit in Yoruba land

Religion holds this country tightly, we are not one and will never be

We only "tolerate" ourselves so if that tolerance is not there let the nation split

I am sure you don't know what Nigeria unity means up north, If Niger delta begins to join south east it's over

So your opinion doesn't matter, north would ditch tinubu so long an atiku is also Muslim

Jazzman01:
at this point, i think peter obi is the best bet. my only fear is that he will divide the country. He will definitely subscribe to IPOB and grant their wish, this maybe towards the tail end of his administration though. Once that happens, Nigeria is gone!

vote for atiku then

At least that's a common ground to all NIGERIANS

Drating1:
we want improvement in our country not muslim christian or christian muslim..the previous governments what did they achieve? Are they not muslim christian or christian muslim ?Religion is killing our nation. The people u think they are religious beneath the ground they are idol worshippers. Only God can save our country.

shut up, is it old frail tinubu that would bring development?

You want to manage his condition but don't want to manage the established principles allowing this country to exist in the first place

This country is not compatible in the first place, it's the balance that we use managing our differences

You only talk competence when their is a country

ElSudani:
You are all making it appear as if every muslim from the north is out to kill christians. This is certainly a lie.
It will work terrible against you.

Atiku Kwanwaso are Muslims it would work Against you not Christian's

If north Muslim decides to support their own it would be atiku kwanwaso against a tinubu who they also consider southernern when they want to revenge

tunapawizzy:
Yes I think kwankwaso will eventually divert his support for either APC or PDP based on negotiations

he stepped down for atiku in 2019, he would do so again in 2023

Not about money but fulani interest

MrHighSea:
A Christian Northerner might vote APC,

On what grounds will a southerner vote APC?

90% christian northernerns won't vote apc expect the card carrying members

They are all at the receiving end from Benue, Plateau down kaduna etc

Even dogara and lalong would work Against apc for this massive slight on them

ElSudani:
This line of criticism will destroy Obi completely in the north, trust me.
I am sure, given their antecedents, Ipobs cannot resist the temptation to latch on to this. It will burn them so bad the labor party will die.
This is a masterful decision from the APC camp. Let's see who wants to ride to the presidency on the basis of religion.

Christian's have nothing to lose in this case

It's only when tinubu is the only Muslim candidate you would be dragging this line

There is atiku and kwanwaso better Muslims, strong fulanis

If the uproar from christians get much the Muslims in the north would rather support their own against tinubu who is still believed to be a southernern where this majority Christian's come from

Again it can also mean northern Muslims supporting atiku kwanwaso when they believe another Rebellion that would threaten one Nigeria is coming down south

It's a lose lose for tinubu

Britishpea:
Mention one Christian he should have picked

if you claim to be popular as a presidential aspirant you don't need to depend solely on your deputy

Tinubu is not popular up north, if he was he would pick dogara, or even lalong a sitting governor

Okealaaye:
Great decision, sir. But how would you take it when all Muslims vote for their faith by giving their votes to Tinubu, a Muslim? I trust you'll respect their choice as they're not making any bones about yours? The new song then is, Live and let live!

what a joke

You can't play Muslim card here atiku kwanwaso is more Muslim than tinubu

Don't even bring this Achilles hill out

tunapawizzy:
So u think Tinubu with Shettima as VP will win the north over Atiku? U need to study more about how northerners play politics...do u think Tinubu will win Kano and Kaduna? Not forgetting that Tambuwal is in Sokoto and Kebbi seems to be dicey right now

the northern apc governors would do tinubu strong thing

He didn't even pick from their team, he went for shettima that have been with him already

It's like na those men even gave tinubu no option, cos you can't tell me he took so much time to take his own decision in a party of joint partnership

onatisi:
i don't think the electorates will mind much. honestly, I think you overestimate the thinking ability of many of these voters especially APC followers, they will soon joyfully accept and nothing will happen.
although some people may kick against it, you just wait and see how many Christian leaders will support this decision, once money has changed hands, some will even say God told them this is the best people to rule

even those buying such support would know they are been scammed

At the end it's the votes that would matter, 90% Christian's nationally won't support that Muslim Muslim ticket

They would rather go with atiku or obi, with the agenda currently taking place it's not the right time under whatever "competence" lies from an old sick man

Tinubu would also have issues with Muslims, this doesn't give him their votes expect Yoruba minority Muslims

Muslims up north have religion and ethnic extra plus advantage in atiku, kwanwaso

Tinubu pastor wife would also cancel whatever gains he expects from the ticket up north

Before the Apc eventually held it's primaries we all know how they have been postponing it for a specific agenda

Buhari agenda for his own consesus failed, the cabals looking for VP agenda failed

Tinubu wants to pick VP, it's obvious buhari wasn't interested in picking for him maybe because what he wanted was the president

Now that Shettima who was already on tinubu side from day one has won, how are the other blocks accounted for?

The Apc governors basically didn't get one of them as VP, buhari didn't get his consensus, lalong didn't get VP

Apart from tinubu taking it all who got something outside his camp, or have the other sides settle to have their pound of flesh

Atiku is a household name in the north east how tinubu cum expect shettima that is not relevant outside borno to defeat him

How would north east leave Presidency and go for vice president under a fake Muslim

The North West is now officially kwanwaso turf to play with, he would now rally it as it's candidate and fuse it to atiku

Wow so excited

Now can tinubu now begin compiling the explanation to give northern Muslims on why he has pastor as wife

Again I am happy, buni and the other pro buharists including buhari that was scheming for consesus have officially been sidelined or they delibrately want to work against tinubu

KillSars:
The APC muslim to Muslim ticket just succeeded splitting the northern vote to 4

Southern vote sha..... make i no talk

apc Muslim Muslim vote no split anything

Tinubu is an infidel not Muslim so apc have only VP spot

He has pastor wife which is against Allah command

Such fake Muslim can't rule real Muslim

Sahih International 2:221

And do not marry polytheistic women until they believe

Tinubu is an infidel for breaking this

He married christian and today the christian have grown to become pastor under him

Atiku married christian who became Muslim under him adding more of his family to islam

“O you, who have believed, protect yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is people and stones…” [Qur’an, 66:6]

Quran is clear if you are a believer in Islam you would protect yourself and your family from hell fire

Tinubu family is going to hell fire from allah for been Christian's

Such unbeliever can not be called muslim

Op let's forget about sentiment and emotions and allow the Islamic sources (Quran and Hadith) to determine if tinubu really follows Allah or is an infidel

“There is no child born except in the state of fitrah (pristine disposition, natural state of Islaam) then his parents make him Jewish or Christian or Magian. Likewise, the animal gives birth to a fully formed calf. Do you see in it the least disfigurement?" Then Abu Huraryrah recited (what means): “The fitrah of Allaah upon which He has created [all] people.” [30:30]

As you can see from that Hadith if you as a father births a child as christian you are an infidel going against allah order in which he created everyone Muslim

Seyi, tinubu son was born christian into a Muslim father roof, you can be excused if your son later became christian on his will, even then Islam says you distance yourself from such child if you can't kill him

I am sure remi tinubu have other christian children she bore for tinubu under his roof who are Christian's till date

Seyi is even leading tinubu Campaign such abomination wants to sell tinubu in the north to northern Muslims who risk Allah curse

yyba:
2019 til date who is the governor of kano state ?

Ganduje needed inconclusive remote control that buhari admitted is his rigging tool to win kano

VoteTinubu2023:
This is PMB sitting in the Mosque. Did that stop him from overwhelmingly winning the Northern Muslim votes?


Vote Tinubu 2023. Vote APC.

never you compare a Fulani Muslim to a fake Yoruba Muslim

The things that Allah pardons for fulani Muslim he doesn't for Yoruba muslim

OldNairalander:
Atiku's Igbo wife is a Christian too.
Does that make Atiku a lesser muslim


Muslim-muslim ticket is not okay for today's Nigeria. Maybe in the future but not at this time.

Atiku convinced his Christian wife to become Muslim and all her children she bore for him Muslim

Tinubu married just christian but convinced his wife to become pastor and all his kids christian

Tilumbu house is used to host prayer meeting and anointing service every Sunday

Allah rebukes him

zionstaar75:
na God go punish all the idiots that are still rooting for another fulani man after all we've been through in the hands of his fulani brother Buhari

God go punish those rooting for tinubu that brought us here

yyba:
but in 2019 their was still federal failure of apc , and the security issues is still at hand. But APC won with muslim / muslim ticket .

Did Ganduje win 2019 election?

It's the same misuse of federal power that worked then, buhari is out of government he won't be paying much attention to keeping these states to help his chances

Opolopoopolonio:
Tinubu cannot force himself if they don't support him.

@bolded This sounds more like your WISHFUL THINKING than speculation.

That was how you all said Tinubu would never be APC candidate.

All the northern PDP governors who worked for Buhari against GEJ all lost out post 2015.

Northern APC governors won't take that risk

All the PDP govs who lost out cos of gej where in their second term or still, so where is the lost out

You underrate the collective interest of north that comes before personal interest

Tinubu would never had been apc candidate if buhari insisted on his consesus

Tinubu forced himself by asking for election, they can't stop him if he wasn't going to agree to sign their own consesus agreement

They were aware he was going to have his way on delegates through dollars in the election but does that translate to having more northern support than buhari have on the street

VoteTinubu2023:
His DP practically has his picture alongside Atiku and somehow his prediction/analysis is taken to be objective?

So many stupid people on Nairaland these days. Nigeria in the future is in a very big danger. So many people who can barely think.


Vote Tinubu 2023. Vote APC.

His DP makes no difference, he is simply already on the side of the people

The people who have been dumping apc since for pdp as the build up begins

TakeBackNaija:
omo, the part in bold got me ROFL

You're absolutely right except the part of Kwankwaso stepping down for Atiku. It's not going to happen anymore, Kwankwaso is increasingly becoming far more popular than Atiku in the North. Dude also has ego problem and would rather want Atiku to step down for him.

Las Las, the election might end in a runoff between Obi and Kwankwaso

you no sabi fulani politics

Nigeria have presented them the perfect opportunity to keep ruling them, and they would rather stay together to enjoy that privilege

It's the unity that have kept them dominating hausas for long, atiku and kwanwaso worked for buhari in 2015.

Kwanwaso stepped down for atiku in 2019, he would still do it, he knows only a major party can unseat incumbent

If he works for atiku and Atiku gets it that means kwanwaso would decamp to apc and Atiku would form nuetral like buhari is doing now so that kwankwanso can get it after 8 yrs

Notice the pattern buhari, Atiku, Kwanwaso are the serial contestants and are about having it turn by turn

TakeBackNaija:
The bastard drug lord thought that insulting Nigerian Christians, the Northern Muslims will embrace him but he is so foolish not to smell the coffee.

Anyways, they call him BAT and he is behaving like a typical bat! Christians have rejected him and Northern Muslims have rejected him too. Let his agberos and Agbado urchins make him president

The most delusional presidential aspirant since 1960!

The north is about to play him politics 801

They are preparing kwanwaso to rally north west and hand it to atiku

The slogan later would be the north needs to come together to end the Marginalization of North East

Opolopoopolonio:
If the north didn't want a southerner, Tinubu would not have emerged APC candidate.

Northern delegates could have collected money and voted Lawan as instructed by their governors.

Who would have arrested or held them

Tinubu may not win the north but he will do very well there - 40 - 45%

Realistic northerners know it's the turn of the south.

first I am happy you don accept tinubu would not win the north

Next the man talking have given you clue that kwankwanso and Atiku would merge into one later

Buhari needed his own, the same northern governor's were ready to support his consensus until tinubu forced himself

With the way buhari easily gave in, don't you think he and the govs have agreed to the overall fulani agenda to allow tinubu run get more of his Lagos dollars and work for atiku

helinues:


There are so many cards available for the 2023 election..

Whatever Tinubu might have done to convince the Northerners to vote him over Osinbajo in the Apc presidential primary, then North home work must have been done and dusted, just some tushing left

Na dollars he take convince the microscopic few northernerns

They collected because they need him as flagbearer to bring more for "Campaign"

Na now Dem wan run am the real steet

Opolopoopolonio:
The same north that preferred Abiola to Tofa

2023 is not 1993

Alot have changed in tribal religious politics, it's the same north that is saying south have had more tenure than them

It's the same north that all rallied in PDP for atiku, and almost rallied for lawan until money sharing prevailed