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May I know why deols' post was put on the front page link when sunymoore was the one that started this thread?
When I clicked this thread on front page it opened deols' post instead of the Op's post and I think that's unfair, sunymoore should be given credit for starting this interesting thread.

Hide this post and I'll report to seun.

BetaThings: And you are truth tella?
Where is the proof that Muslims made those clicks
I can show you several people here on NL who are non-muslims who have pretended to be muslims while making inflamtory statement
On top of my head I can remember a christian from Anambra St Judas who poses as a Muslim to make offensive statements[/color]
And what is the proof that all 75 likes all supported Yerima's statement
There is reason why teach research methodology in school
I don't trust you guys

[size=18pt]What we know is that Muhammed married and slept with a 9year old child and Allah told muslims in the quran to follow Muhammed's example.
NAIRALANDERS DON'T LET THEM FOOL YOU OOOOO!!!!! CHILD MARRIAGE IS PART OF ISLAM!!!!![/size]

babyosisi: They are very deceptive people
Their opinions on issues vary as the night is from day
Islam does not support underage marriage but then the very same person tells you Islam supports marriage of girls as young as one.
Let us delve int the life and love life of prophet Mohammed shall we?
Mohammed even lusted after a baby crawling by
Can any Muslims deny this?
Before actually deflowering Aisha his wife at 9,it is recorded that he used to play with her
Your guess is as good as mine what sort of playing a 54 year old will be having with a 6 year old he is attracted and married to

Do you know that Islam permits muslims to be deceptive when they want to propagate their religion? They call it At Taqiyyah, I know that is what they started this thread for.

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In this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/1366346/senator-ahmed-yerima-replies-critics

More than 75 muslims liked that post where Yerima stated that the Prophet muhammed was the reason why he supports underage marriage. Now you have come to start another thread claiming that underage marriage is unislamic. You can't fool anyone because it is as clear as daylight that underage marriage is part of Islam[/size]

abdulkayus: The "Under-age" Marriage with consummation (I.e. carnal knowledge, sexual intercourse) is not permitted in Islam, a girl has to reach the age of puberty before marriage can be consummated (I.e. carnal knowledge, sexual intercourse) .

But Islam permits the betrothal, engagement and marriage of a girl even at birth and of-course this has always been the practice of many cultures in Africa and the world over.
However , the girl might grow up and refused to be married to the man she is betrothed, engaged or married to at birth - either due to religion or lack of love.
Her permission must be sought before the marriage could be consummated. There is no forced marriage in Islam.

The Prophet (Peace and blessings of God be upon him) did not approve of forced marriage.
He [the best of mankind] (saw) is the best example for us to follow. Allahu Allam....Allah knows best.

[size=17pt]Muhammed married and slept with Aisha when she was 9years old.

A 9year old cannot give her consent for marriage and if she got pregnant she could have been affected by VVF. PLease, please and please, Muslims if you see something wrong with your religion then admit that your religion is faulty. Stop living in denial!!!!![/size]

Please o, nobody should listen to that Rafidi or whatever he calls himself, Muhammed married Aisha at age 6 and started sleeping with her at age 9
Muslims are trying to tell lies about what their prophet did because they are ashamed and they know pedophilia is wrong.
Information from Islamic books show that Muhammed married a nine year old girl.
Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj
Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234

A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Sahih Muslim 8:3310

Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj
Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234

A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Sahih Muslim 8:3310

MUSLIMS SHOULD STOP TRYING TO COVER IT UP, JUST ADMIT THAT YOUR RELIGION IS FAULTY

Katsumoto: Very good points.

Some folks don't understand that you are not supposed to agree with every tenet/rule of a religion. Certain rules are more appropriate in certain areas/regions/circumstances. It is better to be silent about certain medieval practices instead of coming out to defend it just because its your religion.

LOL the lady is scared of offending her God.that's why she's defending a practise that is obviously barbaric.

deols: 1.)So, you think they are better off because they are simply having sex and not married? In Islam that kind of sex is not allowed and if they must, they have to be married. The marriage doesnt have to be to a 'grandfather' It could be to someone closer in age to them. To drive your point, you seem to be mentioning the older men and divorce as if it happens just like that. That Yerima divorced his wife doesnt make it the norm. I am surprised that too many people here wont rationalise that.

2.)That the girls dont consent is a fallacy. When something is the norm somewhere, they look forward to it. As an example, despite female genital mutilation being painful , girls did it on themselves after it was outlawed in Kenya in 1956 as a show of defiance to the law.They hated that their rite of passage wouldnt be carried out. It is a matter of indoctrination and nothing proves that the girls dont consent/look forward to it.

3.)Of course VVF is real. But is it even the only kind of fistula that exists?Would you stop people from having children because of the possibility of having children with birth defects? Risks arent so measurable.

4.)Actually, I am not an advocate of too early marriage. Early marriage isnt entirely bad
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I numbered your bullshyt points to address them one by one.
1.) If you see kids of 13-16 having sex, you increase the awareness of children on the the consequences of their actions ie pregnancy and stds, you enlighten them on the reasons why it is better to abstain untill they are old enough to make sound judgements. You don't ask them to get married because there is no way in hell that children of that age range would be able to deal with the complexities of marriage. They are just not mature enough for it.

2.) A 6-13 year old child cannot give her consent for marriage. Period. She is too immature to know what she is doing but I don't expect you to admit this because by doing so, you would be saying your religion encourages forced marriages.

3.) Childbirth by an immature girl is very high risk factor for VVF. I don't know the type of excuse you are trying to make here. All pregnancies have their risks but the risk of VVF is exponentially higher in children that give birth.

4.) Muhammed supported child marriage so you'd better support it as well if you don't want Allah to be angry with you, lwkmd.

deols: So did you see me denying that? Islam diesnt encourage it per se. There is an allowance for it under certain guidelines. You lot wouldnt try to find those out. Would you?

Lol, please under what guidelines is child marriage acceptable in Islam?

By the way Islam encourages child marriage. Stop denying your religious tenets.
Muhammed, who you people are supposed to emulate married a six year old child.

[quote author=ShyM-X]Can't you see where I alluded to the cultural aspect of both practices? And why do you lot always read everything upside down?

I don't care if both parties are willing to phuck each other in the ar.se - my point is that it's a practice that's morally wrong and barbaric to me - just as the under-age marriage is. And I drew comparisons of how both are part of certain people's cultures. That was what I was alluding to.[/quote]Watevs.

Human rights should be upheld and one way of doing that is banning the filthy Islamic practise that is child marriage. And no I don't believe in respecting other people's beliefs when it comes to issues like this.
Somebody has to fight for those little girls that are being pawned off to lascivous,decrepit and revolting Muslim men.

[quote author=ShyM-X]I believe homosexuality is wrong, barbaric and un-African, but who am I to tell Europeans how to lead their lives especially when it's part of their culture? I coexist with it.

Just because I believe a practice is wrong, that doesn't mean I should shove my opinions down the throats of people who practise it - especially when it's part of their culture. Mutual respect and coexistence, brother.[/quote]WTF? How can you even compare homosexuality to child marriage? Are you phucking kidding me right now?
Homosexuality is an act that involves two willing and mature adults that have the sense to understand what they are doing and understand the consequencies of their actions. Child marriage is giving off an infant in marriage, an infant that did not provide her consent for the marriage. How can you even compare the two of them.
One of them is a willing act between willing parties and the other is done without the approval or consent of one of the parties.
How the hell can you even suggest that we respect child marriage?

[quote author=ShyM-X]Culture is deeper than what we believe is right or wrong based on our societal values. Hence why we always need to tread carefully when we're talking about what's good or bad - because what might be bad to you, may be good to the next person.
As an individual and with my thought process, do I believe that this practice is wrong and medieval? - HELL YEAH... However who am I to judge the next people's culture especially when they have lived that way for generations and most of them are happy with the status quo?

The only way you can help them is by putting control in the practice by making sure that the sex only happens at a legal age.[/quote]You believe the practise is wrong but you have no desire to stop it? I don't get you.
When you see a wrong doing of any kind you should try to put a stop to it and if you cannot do that then you should at least detest it in your heart instead of supporting it.
Marrying a child off to an old man is wrong, period. It is an act that infringes on the human rights of the child because everyone should be free to choose who they want to marry, no one deserves to be hauled off in marriage to an old man that is her grand father's age when she is still an infant.
That would be trampling on the child's human rights.
And, whether the muslims have been living like that since time immemorial or not does not mean the act should be left to continue, I believe there are some pagan religions in Nigeria that have been sacrificing humans to their gods for decades now. Should their idiocy be left to continue just because they have been doing it for decades? Or because they believe that it benefits them in some way?
The answer is no. Babaric cultures must be stamped out.

[quote author=ShyM-X]If the bolded is part of their culture - then let them be. However, Nigeria also need to uphold its laws and make sure there's no sex involved, till the girl is of legal age.[/quote]An underage girl cannot enter a marriage contract because she is underage and does not have the sense to fully understand what she is doing. Even if there is no sex in the marriage until her 18th birthday, it would still be wrong due to the fact that an immature child is the one getting married. And she is getting married to to an old papa that wants nothing else from her but fleshy pleasures, because let's face facts, a man of 50 is not on the same intellectual level as a child of 13 so what the phuck else is he marrying her for?

deols: Thank you!

She is too much of a slow poke and bigotry has overclouded her brains.

Where were the senators representing the other regions. Where they not in session to vote against such an important law?

Isnt this the question to be asking. For all I know, people can demand whatever they want in a democracy. It is the price to pay.

Look hia missis, the truth of the matter is that no matter how much you people deny it or bury your heads in the sand, ISLAM ENCOURAGES CHILD MARRIAGE!
At least your prophet married a 6 year old and slept with her at age 9 so that should prove beyond all doubt that it is an Islamic thing.
Lol religion of pedophylia and forced married.

abdulkayus: And who define an underage and who set d law dat a gal must be 18 b4 she get married, is it nt some ppl dat set dat law dat we all follow like sheep. In olden days, doesnt our fore fathers and mother married b4 18 years. Abeg make una shift jor. Even in some European, its 16 nt 18.
Although, to me, i dont support marriage of a girl who is nt develop sexually or witout her consent. And in Islam, a marriage wit out d consent of d lady is void.
Peace upon u all

Shove your 'peace' up your a s s. Your prophet married a little girl of 6years and slept with her at 9years of age. That means marrying underage girls without their consent is allowed in islam.

Islam disgusts me. Dirty pedophyle religion.
I support what babyosisi said before, if Islam is a religion that encourages child r a p e all in the name of following the footsteps of muhamed then Seun has to put a stop to islamic topics making front page. If he doesn't do this then nairaland will be taken as a website that propagates pedophylia (islam).

slimmy05: Security of the nation is an all inclusive thing, all and sundry should also help in feeding security operatives with unscrupulous elements trying to cause mayhem and civil unrest in the society. If it were to be south-west, south east and south-south, I'll bet you, it won't get the SOE stage before the culprits will be nabbed. To me they deserve what they get, if they had sympathy for lives of the christians, [size=16pt]igbo[/size] and fellow northerners that have lost their lives, they would have been feeding security operatives with info as regards the hideout of boko boys.

Now I understand your reason for being angry. You are one of those igbo that are still annoyed over the biafra war nonsense that happened aeons ago.

Ninilowo: Religious bigot. That is the army for you, when you invite them you may not be able to contain them again. You join the army and see how "EASY" it is hun? Even if there were civillian casualties were they not the ones harbouring the bastards initially. Do you want to tell us that they didn't know their bases? Were you not in Nigeria when a case was witnessed in Lagos? Didn't you see the people's immediate reaction and that of Lagos state government? A beg park well joor.......

What do you mean by 'religious bigot'? I am not a muslim. I am only being objective here.
How can you even support the killing of those civilians just because you think they were 'habouring' boko haram? Do you have any proof that they were habouring them or that they supported them?
Many muslims and christians from the north came out to speak against boko haram in the past and even when there was terrorist bombings both muslims and christians were affected/killed.
How heartless do you have to be to support the killing of innocent civilians?

tbaba1234: If a conflict happens in the south, the same soldiers will be called in to quell it.... I doubt if the people talking here will be sweeping reports of mass civilian killings under the carpet.

That is one thing Nigerians fail to realize, if you ignore an evil and refuse to solve it because it doesn't affect you, that evil could come back one day and fall on you.

Enough of this pretense abeg.

I am sure many of the people on this thread know that civilians are being killed in the north as we speak but you pretend you dont know just because you think those civilians are muslims.

Nigerian soldiers that are known for dealing out the worst kind of treatment to civilians have suddenly become trustworthy gooddoers that can never do wrong to the innocent.

Na una sabi o. Keep defending the killing of innocent people because you think they are your enemies.

Enough of this pretense abeg.

I am sure many of the people on this thread know that civilians are being killed in the north as we speak but you pretend you dont know just because you think those civilians are muslims.

Nigerian soldiers that are known for dealing out the worst kind of treatment to civilians have suddenly become trustworthy gooddoers that can never do wrong to the innocent.

Na una sabi o. Keep defending the killing of innocent people because you think they are your enemies.

[quote author=mc~evans]She became more relevant after Goldie's sudden demise. [/quote]No, she became more relevant after Seun fell in love with her and asked NL mods to always put her news on front page.

Word of advice to all Nairalanders that want their threads to reach front page; Look for any tonto dike news, whether she is just walking on the road o, whether she went to the market o,whether she just siddon dey look sef, sufa na tonto dike dey do am, make you take the thing start thread and that thread go enter front page.

i vote lucenzo