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[quote author=franchasng post=136592963[b]]Majority of ordinary Igbos despise corrupt politicians.[/b]


Tinubu's dislike by the Igbos started from Tinubu's role in blackmailing and removing Goodluck and his anti-Igbo politics that started from 2014 whereby he used anti-Igbo rhetorics to mobilize other Yorubas against Igbos in Lagos.



Igbos have very good heart, very e asy to make them like you. If you can remember, the same way some Igbos, mostly youths despised Tinubu's political life is the same way they despised El Rufai, Amaechi, Umahi, Rochas, Oshiomhole, etc but the moment those other one turned back and started calling evil evil, you can see the same Igbo youths now softening their dislike for them.


If Tinubu turns a new leaf tomorrow, the same Igbos calling him out will become his number one fans, na so we be, we no de carry things for heart like you Yorubas, that's why despite the atrocities committed against Igbos by the North before and during the war, Igbos still went back to the North living freely, doing business and investing heavily there not bearing any grudges in mind, same thing they are doing in virtually all Nigerian states including the states that slaughtered them during the Pogrom but una Yorubas will continue to reference one thing or the other that happened in the East as your reasons for never wanting to live in Southeast or invest there.


The difference is clear, that's why Igbos bounced back so fast after losing it all during war. That's how life of people that don't carry forever hatred and anger in mind works, they forgive easily and progress easily against all odds.[/quote]If youth despise corruption, we won't have Orji Uzo Kalu, we won't have Abaribe we won't have Ekwerenadu, we won't have any of your governors winning second term.

Now that it is clear that Igbo hate corrupt politician of other ethnic group and protect theirs then we can conclude that your tribalism is a follow come.

Again, you said you hate Tinubu because of his role pre 2015 election, did you extend similar hatred to Atiku, Rotimi Amaechi and a whole lots of others who you supported in 2019 just 3 years after Jonathan was voted out.

Extend same hatred to your corrupt politicians and those you romance who participated to oust Jonathan and I will take you seriously.

Now, it is clear from your point that there's no justification for such hatred especially after Tinubu as number one governor who appointed an Igbo as commissioner for Budget and Planning in his cabinet and equally extended WAEC payment to non indigene residing in Lagos and equally gave Igbo leverage to have assess to some major markets in Lagos state.

Yoruba can no longer trust you because you pay good with evil, and takes their friendship for cowardice and mess up opportunities you enjoy in SW.

Going forward, you will regret you actions as the new generation of Yoruba will never give you that space within their region

Softmirror:
That was how one grandpa was suspicious about one of his grandson so he did a DNA TEST the result almost gave him stroke. It turned out that it was his own son that wasn't his biological son. 😁

Make VDM show us the DNA certificate that proves that he is the biological son of his father.🤣🤣🤣🤣

From what am seeing the boy resemble VDM more than Tinubu.

VDM should ask his parents some questions, he can probably invite the guy for a DNA test.

The boy is a cabon copy of VDM

Seun abeg help me delete my Nairaland account I no need am again or you can sell it to Obidients who like to abuse and rain curses

franchasng:
...and I want to also point out something that you Yorubas should try and desist from. You guys always try to paint yourselves as perfect being that never do wrong.


Like I told you, my late uncle that participated in the January 1966 coup regretted and he said most of them also regretted the outcome of the coup as it wasn't as they planned it to be.


He said maybe if they had Northern soldiers amongst them who were drafted to execute the coup in Eastern Nigeria, that the outcome would have been better as they wouldn't have spared some of the high ranking Igbo politicians that the Igbo soldiers drafted to execute Eastern side spared which made the North and West see the coup as Igbo coup. This was one of his regrets


Secondly, he never liked Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe just as Ojukwu never liked Zik too and never attended his burial. Most Igbos never liked Nnamdi Azikiwe as we believed that he failed us Igbos by not doing the right things that would have made Nigeria and Eastern Nigeria better as he focused mostly on outside politics to be seen as a national and African figure. This was one of the reasons most Igbos cherished Awolowo more than Zik if you take away Awolow's inhumane role in the Biafran war.


You can always hear Igbos criticize Zik despite his influence in Nigeria.


Same way, many Igbos don't support Rochas, Orji Uzo Kalu, etc because they see them as corrupt not minding how influential they are. You also see some Igbos condemning Nnamdi Kanu, Simon Ekpa, etc.


You will see Igbos admit their errors but you guys from the Yoruba side will never admit that you are wrong at all even when it's glaring. Take a look at how Tinubu turned Nigeria upside down yet you guys keep supporting him and attacking Igbos for calling his government out. Someone like Tinubu can never even get Igbo majority support in the first place, he is in the likes of Orji Uzo Kalu, Rochas Okorocha and co to Igbos.


We acknowledge great Yoruba leaders but you Yorubas never accept that any Igbo man or woman is good.



Make una change if una want sha

Tinubu became president in the past two years but before then your hatred for the man knew no bound.

Why did you hate him so much even before he became the president?

Many Yoruba were forced to believe it was unfinished rivalry that has existed in the past that was still playing out.

There's no justification for such hate and that singular act made majority of The Yoruba to defend Tinubu, to them it was a fight for the survival of the Yoruba race and not rivalry of election differences.

Igbo attitude before and after 2023 election was an eye opener to a moderate Yoruba, today they are conscious of everything coming from the East, as you have lost the warm reception you received in SW out of all other regions in Nigeria

franchasng:
Even if you are related to Banjo does not make any difference because you might not be aware of the tape nor were you present at the tribunal that found Banjo and others guilty. Are you even aware that Ojukwu's in-law was among those executed alongside Banjo? Please leave that issue aside, they were executed for trying to topple Ojukwu's leadership and any military leader would do same talk more of one at war and at high risk of being eliminated.



Back to Prof. Wole Soyinka, he is a highly respected man by Igbos for decades. You cannot blame Igbo youths who support Peter Obi for calling out and condemning Wole Soyinka for calling Peter Obi they support a "gbajue". In my tradition, they said, an elder is not expected to bath outside so that little kids won't use his balls (scrotum) to play tinko thinking it's a bell lol


Prof Wole Soyinka brought the backlash and attacks on himself. Him coming out to call out Peter Obi and even going as far as calling him "gbajue" while promoting Tinubu wasn't elderly or statesmanly if you are honest to yourself.


So mind your words, it is Peter Obi's Igbo supporters (not all Igbos) and even some none Igbos that attacked Prof. Wole Soyinka back for calling their man "gbajue".



That aside, Igbos have always recognized and hailed Prof Wole Soyinka's support for Biafra in the past, and will continue to recognize and appreciate him for that and I can tell you for free that at any point in time Biafra comes to reality, Col. Banjo, Prof Wole Soyinka, Fajuyi, etc will be well recognized in Biafra nation with a forever legacy, go and note this down.

You mean the sin of WS was calling Obi gbajue and that would warrant those abuses and curses.
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Regarding Banjo, his execution was a grave actioon that will haunt your region for many years to come l.

Executing him on phantjom charges of coup was comon excuses of African military rulers to execute their perceived enemy during that era.

Abacha indicted Obasanjo and many others in phantom coup that didn't exist, so Ojukwu charges against him was just an alibi to kill Banjo. You can't rewrite history. It was a painful experience of a betrayal and hateful disposition of the Igbo towards her supportive neighbor

franchasng:
My late uncle was a high ranking Nigerian military officer that participated in the January 1966 coup and later joined Biafra and was among the top ranking Biafra military personnel that headed Biafra conscription unit and intelligence too.


He said a damning audio recording was played at the military tribunal that indicted Banjo, Ifeajuna and co.


I don't have access to the tape, it should be available somehow but it's a highly classified information that won't be easy to find. Maybe only those that had first access to Ojukwu's personal office and bunker may have it, but whatever my late uncle told us about the January 1966 coup, the counter coup and the Biafra war were all spot on.


He even told us that some of them regretted the January 1966 coup, and also told us some of the mistakes they made during the war.


He did accepted some of their mistakes and told us some of the inhumane things Ahmadu Bello was doing that caused the January 1966 coup, so his stories were balanced but you guys from the Southwest only believe that Igbos are the aggressors and always the bad people who always do bad while your people always do good and no wrong, so nobody can convince you because you already have a bias mindset towards anything Igbo

Did you know whether am related to Col Banjo and equally have assess to first hand information of what transpired during that time.

The problem with you guys is your inability to accept when you are wrong.

The execution of Banjo signalled the end of support a SWner will render to the SE

Because of politics, WS who was imprisoned for the cause of Biafra was cursed by Igbo today.

Execution of Banjo will always be remembered and reference as the most thoughtless decision a man can make and it once again exposes the egocentric proclivity that would always checkmated by the larger Nigerians

gidgiddy:
The excuse you guys made for Northerners, but vilify Ojukwu who sent a force to kick the Northerners out of the West back to the North, says it all

Every slave thinks a freedom fighter is a fool

Is what you said contained in the letter Ojukwu sent to Banjo?

Don't be a revisionist

franchasng:
Ojukwu never trusted Ifeajuna and Nzeogwu because they are known brutal soldiers who orchestrated the first coup of January 1966.


So when Ojukwu got the information that Banjo and Ifeanju were plotting coup against him while negotiating with Gowon for a ceasefire, [b]Ojukwu didn't take it lightly after damning evidence was presented against Banjo, Ifeanju and co. [/b]Biafra's decree on coup attempt had to take place and they got executed for plotting to topple Biafra Military Leader.


It's sad but it is what it is

Can you present the evidence here for us to see. Your brother who claimed there was video evidence has not been able to sho it when asked to

esnbrutality:
You are free and when fasorontis daughter was killed , your messiah Tinubu asked where are the COWs?

Nobody needed to liberate happy slaves. Gowon was the target and the seat of power was LAGOS. They didn't go to Kwara, Oyo, Osun ,Ondo etc. they passed through to attack Gowon directly in Lagos.

So don't reproduce baselessly false narratives from your gathering of failures and try to pass it as the truth.

Unity begging is petty

Try make sense at least for once.

Don't just throw words try understand what it means

Na your people they sponsor bill to replace indigeneship with residential.

Na una dey follow night bus to infest other region.

Na una dey claim una develop the earth, the moon and the mars

Na una still dey cry marginalization.

Who is truly. A unity beger

Alli know is that in a contest between SE and SW, SW defeated SE hands down, politically SW is better than SE

Good. Things gradually returning to Nigeria. If you are happy with this new may your generation be blessed

seunmsg:
Saka has been carrying Arsenal on his back for like three seasons now without anyone making it about his ethnicity. Dem sign boys wey never even deliver, una don turn am to ethnic chest beating.

The thing is. Just disgusting, I don't know how they feel with the chest beating, everything has to be about ego and pride

When we tell Obi and his Obidients to drop their emotion when it comes to politics they abuse and curse us, today irrational decision has landed Obi in a very tight corner.

In politics there's no permanent friend or enemy and there should be a room for reconciliation at every turn but the Obidients have burnt down such room that could make way for any reconciliation.

Where is the political future for Obi in Nigeria, is it in LP, ADC or PDP?

Am sure Obi will be regretting his irrational move to ADC while abandoning LP that brought him to the limelight.

Now the political searchlight has been beamed towards the South, every political gladiator across the country will start pitching their tent and making a mark for future reference and political opportunity.

Where is the opportunity for Peter Obi?

It is so frustrating to be an Obidient at this point in time

Obaaderemi2:
Kemetian, you are indeed very ignorant. But as usual I'm here to destroy your misinformation because I know there are many benighted people here.
Jesus could never be black. He was a Jew. Jews are perceived as dark skinned by the whites. If he came out of the middle East of course he would look like an Arab. They're darker than mainland Europeans.

Apart from that artistic impressions could be different from the main thing most of the time. Below are paintings of Jesus and Mary far older than the ones you posted. He was not depicted as black in them. So why should we go with your narrative that Jesus and Mary were black because some artists used black paints on their portraits? It must be easy to deceive gullible people like you. Jesus was a Jew. He wasn't white but he wasn't black as well.

I disagree with your point above.

If there's anything to go by, the Bible is a book that is known for its vivid descriptive and excellent usage of precise adjective to narrate its story.

There's no way it could have used black to describe brown if indeed they were brown.

Many places in the Bible actually described different races by their colour that even predates the birth of Jesus like how the Ethiopian were described.

Though am not arguing whether Jesus was black or white but the Bible didn't explicitly describe Jesus as white.

DeepSight:
It was not just them. You know very well there was not a general cceptance of Jesus as Messiah except among his small sect.

Further, when Pilate put a choice to the people, they chose Barabas.

The gospels repeatedly use the phrase "the Jews" in fingering those who worked towards implicating Jesus.

Finally, where are the Pharisees and Sanhedrin today and how come Jews still reject Jesus today?

You made a valid point,very deep and thoughtful why did the Jews reject Jesus up till today if there decision is not based on racism, there's no other reason one can think of

DeepSight:
It was not just them. You know very well there was not a general cceptance of Jesus as Messiah except among his small sect.

Further, when Pilate put a choice to the people, they chose Barabas.

The gospels repeatedly use the phrase "the Jews" in fingering those who worked towards implicating Jesus.

Finally, where are the Pharisees and Sanhedrin today and how come Jews still reject Jesus today?

Barabas could have been while while Jesus was black, you have a point there, it is only on racist ground that Jesus could have been rejected.

Are you saying similar thing is happening in Nigeria

We would present a goat to tackle Peter Obi in the primary if he dare try to run in PDP and that goat will defeat him

Pascal9:
Nna men, Nigeria is just big for nothing , imagine johnanesburg, 240 flights, what good is our population for?

How many times have you boarded plane this year. Cho cho cho everywhere

owobokiri:

I told you that you are empty.
You know nothing about the topic. Just huff and puff to earn your daily bread using the leftovers of Amaechis laptops.

Biafra was attacked from all angles. From the North, West and South. In all those fronts, Yoruba officers cheered on by Yoruba leaders and the Yoruba public, were in full action using supplies from Britain to commit genocide against "fellow blacks".

Almost all the air sorties that were flown into Biafra to bomb hospitals, markets, churches and schools, originated from Lagos. All weapons from Britain docked at Lagos portd with ZERO opposition from.any branch of the Yoruba communities.

Infact, go and read Wole Soyinkas "The man Died". Briefly, he discussed all he heard about endless disgusting meetings between Northern and South Western leaders to use the war to do all they did in Biafra..

Una problem be say una dey think say una fit openly rewrite history as you did with your newspapers before the coming of the internet.
We don't have to drag any points here. The facts are well documented by even foreigners. Just read up..

The above story you narrated here was a fiction of your imagination and don't post any bias publication from your people here as evidence.

The fact remains that Ojukwu in his letter narrates how SW should be capture and assigned Col. Banjo to carry out the operation, however the content of the letter was in abeyance to the cause and reason why many SW joined the Biafra Army which was a liberation cause of the Southern region from the northern domination.

I will advise you to do the reading with an unbiased mind and see the arrogance of Ojukwu in the letter

Have any Igbo writer debunked the letter Ojukwu wrote to Banjo regarding how SW should be captured?

SW only joined the North to decimate your army when your greediness pushes you towards SW and you were.defeated at Ore.

Don't derail the thread with abuse and insult otherwise I will post your contradictory post about Peter Obi .

Be warned

gidgiddy:
When people talk about Victor Banjo, all they seem to talk about is that Ojukwu executed him. Most of them dont even know why Victor Banjo was executed. They dont even know that Victor Banjo stood trial, was convicted and sentenced to death, which led to his execution.

Brigadier Victor Banjo was arrested in September 1967 along with three other Igbo military officers, Colonel Ifeajuna, Major Agbam and Major Alale. They were charged to military tribunals with:

First Count: Subversion, contrary to Section 13 (a) of the Law and Order (Maintenance) Edict, 1967,
Particulars of Offence: "That you, Victor Banjo, Philip Alale, Emmanuel Ifeajuna and Sam Agbam, in the month of September, 1967, at Enugu, in the Republic of Biafra, (the said Republic being a disturbed area by virtue of the Order of the Military Governor made on 3rd June 1967 without lawful authority made preparations for carrying out an armed disturbance against the Military Governor and some officers of the Republic of Biafra

Second Count:

Act intended to cause a breach of public order contrary to Section 6 (e) of the Law and Order (Maintenance) Decree, 1967, otherwise known as the Law and Order (Maintenance) Edict, 1967,
Particulars of Offence: "That you, Victor Banjo, Philip Alale, Emmanuel Ifeajuna and Sam Agbam, in the month of September, 1967, at Enugu, in the Republic of Biafra (which is a disturbed area) with intent to cause a breach of public order, agreed to procure the downfall of the Government of said Republic by violent and unlawful seizure of the Military Governor and Head of State of the Republic of aforesaid, and Commander-in-Chief of its Armed Forces, and other military officers"

To understand what happened, you have to read from page 27 to 40 of a book called "Nowhere To Hide: Crises and conflicts inside Biafra", by Benard Odogwu, an intelligence officer in Biafra. Transcripts of Banjo's trial are also in the book.

Basically, what happened was that Victor Banjo, who was a Brigadier in the Biafran Army, and led the Midwest oprations, had returned to Enugu and hatched a plot with Ifeajuna, Alale and Agbam, to topple Ojukwu. They contacted Benard Odogwu and some others and told them that they were in contact with the government of Gowon, and could bring the war to an end. All they had to do was storm the Biafran government house with their troops, arrest Ojukwu, and Gowon would agree to a ceasefire and negotiations. But Ojukwu had to be taken out first. Benard Odogwu played along. In a second meeting with the 4 men, Benard Ojukwu hid a recording device in his briefcase, recorded the men putting final touches to their plan to take out Ojukwu. Benard took the recording straight to Ojukwu, who ordered the arrest of all 4 men.

They denied everything, but when the recording was played at the tribunal, they had no defence. All 4 men were found guilty, sentenced to death, and executed

Source: Nowhere To Hide: Crisis and conflicts inside Biafra by Benard Odogwu

Can you play us the recorded audio, at least such important document should be kept in the archive of Biafra.

Remember a person that lies will eventually push drug

esnbrutality:
I will stay in Anambra and imo rather than staying in Ekiti ..or .Osun...or even Oyo...let alone OGUN.. KWARA is owned by Fulani.

Where are you staying presently? Am sure you are not in the East, lie and I will burst your lies

Haaaaaa, see Anambra dragging space with Zamfara, seriously Nnamdi Kanu caused more havoc to the SE but it beats imagination how people like Gidigidi still praise him here

Focusmind:
Wike on this one

You have to give him the credit - this has been his intention all along - to get PDP to endorse BAT.

Which candidate in the south, under PDP, can challenge BAT? The PDP that had their meeting in Ibadan already knew that BAT would be their candidate in 2027 and they may not present any candidate for the election

I think the outcome of the 2027 election is already sealed - do not just argue or get angry. This is politics

You understand the game wella, that's why ElRufai and Atiku have suddenly go dumb.

Let me even ask who will finance ADC or PDP since APC has cornered all the states with dip pocket who can finance presidential election, as it goes, no politician will want to stake his money for ADC or PDC

RollinTNDA:
When I knew Democracy is Scam

When Pontus Pilate did election

And plenty jews voted Barnabas the criminal against Jesus Christ

Democracy means the highest number of people are right and must be obeyed.


Politicians understand this loophole and they are milking it heavily over here

You crack me with this.. Nowadays Nairaland will give you maximum comic relieve than visiting cinema.
It doesn't matter if they are clueless or tribalistic or have huge bias against you. Democracy says they are right. Just because they are large in number.

Penguin2:
Fergie001

The south has been asked to go and microzone the presidential slot.

Now, considering that the Southsouth has produced a president recently and the Southwest currently in power, I see them microzoning to Southeast.

And once NEC rectifies the microzoning to Southeast, I can comfortably go to Obi’s house and lead him by the hand back to PDP; because he would have no challenger at all.

Peter Obi might run on the platform of PDP.

But fingers crossed!

You get mind sha?
What's the contribution of Obi to PDP that would make them gift him the ticket,

In his home state, APGA has been the dominant party for so many years.

Look, Nigeria politics doesn't work like that, the presidency gift to Obasanjo will be the last an idle politician would get. Just admit your Peter Obi is partyless.

Wike is waiting for Obi at the PDP, laslas PDP will eventually adopt APC presidential candidate.

Dey play

DMerciful:
Obi will not do that unless he is giving the ticket automatically

Presently Peter Obi has no party.

Which party will you vote Dmerciful?

Obapluto:
you haven't been there I guess.. you haven't gone deep into those areas

I spent 5 years in that axis and still frequent there at least once in a year, there's no area I don't know,

JetStar:
US sanctions is the reason why Venezuela is what it is. Saudi are friends of the USA thats why they are oil rich

No, Venezuela economy collapsed years back before US sanction in 2017, before then, the economy of Venezuela was already in comatose.

Iit like saying Nigeria economy was crippled during Sani Abacha because of US sanction when we all know the real cause of our problem during that period was massive looting, abuse of human right and corruption

esnbrutality:
Give me Peter Obi or BIAFRA...I will choose BIAFRA any day anytime.

Now concerning @owobokiri's post. Isn't it pathetic that in your gathering of failures, statements made in the past about someone is what you latch on to as banter. I can hate Peter Obi today and if he changes I can love him tomorrow. Human actions are NOT cast in Stone, comprehend?

Tinubu you support said he doesn't believe in NIGERIA and you supported him to be president. So what is @owobokiris post in relation to TINUBUs statement.?

BUHARI said that a FIGHT against Boko Haram is a fight against the North, same Yoruba supported him. To the detriment of a fellow Southern President.

Is Jonathan not 'Jonadafftt' again .or is his wife not a 'shepopotamus' again? Funniest thing is that woke Soyinka that insulted a sitting President was awarded handsomely. Same Soyinka said he will appraise and Judge Tinubu in 2yrs time abi? When reminded, the guy run

What is basic is the fact that people NOW see you guys in full glare and the public perception you normally peddle about others especially IGBOs ,has been discovered to be baseless.

Just know this, 2027 won't be Childs play ..that I can assure you. Tinubu will face NIGERIA..let's see if your region will ever remain relevant after that.

Jokers

Funny dude.

That post was made when Obi was rounding up his second tenure, at what point did he correct his misgovernance?

If you like support Obingo, my point is allow others to make their choice.

Okonjo Iweala, Soludo and other respected Igbo leaders have given nod to Tinubu reform, but in the eyes of Obi and his followers, it amount to nothing, that's satanic.

Your new love ADC have been rejected in the last Bye election, presently, Ob and the Obidients are partyless