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Fake news. Rather pdp will harvest more from apc as former members return home to pdp.

Rilwayne001:
Is it the same opposition that's yet to know their flag bearer? This writer knows nothing absolutely about what he's writing.

Naive!

Buterflyle0:
He knows he stands no chance against PMB and also knows Kwankwaso stands no chance against PMB so would rather take kwankwasos senate position with the backing of PMB which has always worked for him.

Kwankwasos political career will be dead come 2019 along with so many others in PDP. Shekarau knows this so wisdom guided his decision.

Why didnt buhari's political career die in 2003,2007 and 2011? Very lame!

Printerscanner:
So, this is one of the new not too young to run politicians that PDP promised. A man that was in the House of Reps in 1979.

The presidency is not the only elective office and pdp hasn't stopped you from contesting!

Groovenaija360:

This is one major reason why PDP May end up not sending Buhari packing out.

Every one on their personal interest.

It is the major reason they will send buhari back to daura!

Cajal:
...oba is the most popular...and is even more significant compare to saraki...not to talk of likely PDP candidate... Bolaji abdullahi
Saraki dynasty is crashing

Who is this?

No Gentleman in the sai baba terrain if you must make headway. It has to be fire for fire!

donbachi:
Atiku is an enemy of #nottooyoungtorun...for telling lamido not to run,but step aside for him.

Has he stopped any young person from running?

senatordave1:
Your mental issue is worsening.why not say buhari is not even married?
Kai,they will soon strangle you.it wont take long again.you have reached a no point of return.

You stay in your enclave and projecting illusions as reality. Shior.

Aufbauh:
All the political histrionics playing out in the course of this oncoming PDP Primaries indicate that PMB is a very popular candidate and a strong demigod in the northern hemisphere.

To make the 2019 presidential election a tough match, i advise that the APC should allow the PDP to feed their 3 best popular presidential candidates on the ballot paper at the same time. Then their votes will be add up as one against Buhari's votes. Anything short of this my candid advice is going to be a disgraceful calamity for the PDP

They PDP never see anything yet.

Grandiose delusion!

senatordave1:
Are you forgetting that fct council polls are conducted by inec directly without any form of interference? Out of 6 councils,apc won 4 apga two.you have exposed your limited politique again

They remain council polls and I don't take them seriously. You are even rating APGA 30% cos of that expedient action.
You sure know nothing about fct politics beyond reading news. The council polls do not represent the reality of federal elections and party affiliation in any event add your apga projection to PDP's!

docadams:
At the mention of Atiku, INTELS invariably comes to mind, and dubious business practices come to mind

Intel saga:
We were billed in dollars for services we could have paid for in Naira
As a critical stakeholder, I can, however, tell you from experience that INTELS must have gone too far on its alleged excesses before government could act the way it did.
It is alleged in some quarters that INTELS has been operating beyond its mandate... it is alleged that the firm was charging in dollars for cargoes domiciled in Nigeria
the major lesson here is that there should no longer be special privileges or exclusive agreements.

— Chief Reginald Amadi, Public Relations Officer, Delta/Edo Command Association of Nigerian Licensed Custom Agents
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/10/intel-saga-billed-dollars-services-paid-naira-amadi/amp/

That is business and Atikunation loading!

senatordave1:
So i should leave council polls which are a pointer because it doesnt favour you? Which points do you have to prove that pdp will win? You go soon receive beating publicly for this your wild and infuriating claims.seems your mentally indisposed

Oh when will you be serious sef. So you take Council polls seriously chai.

senatordave1:
Those crowd are supporters of lamido and the few pdp supporters in jigawa.pdp cant get up to 100k here except lamido contests

Pdp will get at least 40% in jigawa.

senatordave1:
You have started again.i thought we ended this long ago? Has pdp ever won abuja by a landslide? During the abj council polls,what did pdp win

Leave council polls abegi .PDP will thrash buhari/apc on february 16th in abuja.

senatordave1:
No,its generous enough.incumbent presidents usually win abuja just like nasarawa.apga has overtaken pdp in abuja as the main opposition.in kogi,yahaya wont be having guber polls by february so he will deliver for buhari.you saw an example during the rerun poll in lokoja weeks ago.i can only add 5 percent for pdp in plateau

Are you conversant with abuja at all? PDP will thrash buhari in the FCT. That is my base. We are sending buhari back to daura.

senatordave1:
For now without buhari,apc cannot win presidential polls.they need him to consolidate that especially up north and ss/se.winning is winning,with the way elections are structured in nigeria you can only win an incumbent marginally.only el rufai broke that jinx.in summary,pdp must bring someone that has mass characteristics like buhari with die hard bases and foot soldiers everywhere plus secure the support of majority of governors with the capacity to resist rigging in the north and secure 95% of ss/se votes.theres no such person

You are right that is why the way pdp handles its primaries matters.

Atikunation loading.!

senatordave1:
Buhari has always gotten reasonable votes here even in defeat.pdp has never won here by a landslide.Losing this states narrowly would not mean much in the grand scheme of things.
The real danger is down south.you fail to realize that pdp is no more dominant here.half of the members of apc were were in pdp before.apc is growing larger while pdp is getting weaker.you celebrate defectors like etang umoyo that always lost heavily to pdp.

Buhari lost SW abysmally prior to 2015. Pls go do some historical research. Moving from an abysmal performance to marginal victory was massive in 2015 only poor minds with even poorer analytical basis don't get it.
By the way, until you understand that The person of buhari is what is driving votes Which ever way.

Remove buhari and the voting patterns across Nigeria will significantly change between apc and pdp.

This fundamental is What you are failing to grasp.

senatordave1:
How will that happen when hes not sure of kwara? People that are from kwara or staying there have talked of the true situation of things,saraki is a goner.you that has never set foot there is arguing just to spite buhari.where is tuniski? Hes never here to support saraki but will invade my threads to rant.such a hypocritical fellow.

You are localized I am not. Why should I be focused on saraki?

senatordave1:
That is why butterfly they vex for am.he makes wild and foolish claims.saying north central is their base is also like saying south west is their base

SW is a Swing region that only voted buhari in 2015.

If you have sense and understanding your focus should be more on the states/regions buhari won for the first time in 2015 namely SW and NC (lagos,ondo,ogun,oyo and osun as well as kwara,benue,kogi) but you are interested in talking nothing as defections in Your enclave.

senatordave1:
Yes because of several reasons which were now present.this was lacking in previous polls.most governors supported him,he had southern alliance,he was more popular than gej,he had media advantage,more campaign funds.he countered pdp rigging measures while also devising his,had international support,pdp didnt use their federal power much,they were complacent.

Shallow! Whatever advantage incumbency gives, PDP knows it more than apc.
APC is jjc on everything same As it supporters.

senatordave1:
You have started again,apart from saraki and kwankwaso other defectors contribute nothing electorally.pdp has witnessed far more defection your biased and warped mind is over looking it unwisely.
If you have sense you should know thar the 2011 map was when pdp was in power with buhari concentrating up north.all your vain points still favour apc

You certainly don't have sense! To you Nigeria started in 2015!

senatordave1:
Guy,if your well grounded in the north central you will know that its 50/50.buhari always loses narrowly here,where is the thrashing coming from? you have never been able to give details of how buhari will losw here yet when others give it you stubbornly disagree.majority of people in kwara are now against saraki yet you claim he will deliver which means your a big liar always wallowing in self deceit.me that am on ground in the south is telling yoh how apc is getting stronger with evidence you no believe meanwhile you cant prove yours.
Ill never be able to convince you till after the polls.you have never taken part in any elections from your comments.take part in next year own and be guided.
For you to claim that el rufai winning an incumbent by over 700j votes is an accident is funny.that of bello may be accidental but apc winning that poll was never accidental.jang imposing late gns was not accidental except you dont the meaning.

Concerning the electoral map,it was obvious that buhari was going to win goodluck.all the signs were there.it was clear.but those same factors are still working for buhari.pdp doesnt have a candidate with a buhari like clout

Concentrate on 2011 map not the Accident of 2015, that will give you insight into 2019.

You celebrate nothingness as defections and I don't blame you cos, that is now the forte of buharideens since the tsunami that hit apc.

senatordave1:
Pdp has always won the north central marginally same as the south west marginally.its nobody's base.your simply mistaking happenings in benue and kwara to wrongly generalize comically.there is nothing accidental in politics except the people voted by mistake.all the signs from the field shows a buhari victory yet you turn a blind eye.many buhari supporters here are from the south south which should send you a warning.for me from cross river to be defending this man like this tells a lot.

I am a grounded north central man and I tell you straight up buhari will be thrashed in the middlebelt (NC) only Niger is sure for him with significant reduction in margin.

So many things are accidental like those you claimed won by riding on buhari's wave. Like apc winning plateau gov, like yahaya Bello being gov like elrufai being gov. 2015 was an election of errors and accidents .


Unfortunately many like you put your faith in the electoral map of 2015 even with humongous failure of buhari.

senatordave1:
In the north,he rode almost alone while south,he depended on tinubu and others completely.you guys are rather under rating's buhari's ruthless capacity while over estimating pdp chances without federal might.do you realize that pdp have always won elections narrowly since 2015 without federal might even in mighty bayelsa

It is only in the north west, borno,yobe, bauchi,gombe and Niger states that buhari has truly deep followership. 7 northern states are going pdp next year.

senatordave1:
Your funny.how will it add when buhari helped them win elections? Seems you dont know these people.misau and nazif always contested under anpp,acn or anpp but always failed meanwhile buhari always won bauchi with over a million votes.it was in 2015 that they won with the help of buhari's tsunami.infact,their winning reduced buhari's margin from the usual 1.2 mil to 900k.therefore there worthless.
In gombe,buhari hs always won there as you know with or without bayero nafada's help.only danjuma goje helps.bayero doesnt have any issue with buhari but just wanted the guber ticket which goje denied him.therefore,he wont be missed.
Buhari won kogi the first time by 100k votes.it wasnt because of melaye who managed to win adeyemi by 5000 votes.most of buhari's winning votes came from ebira and igala land.dino wont be missed.
In kaduna hunkuyi has never won any polls until 2015.buhari always win his lga and kaduna north even when he was in pdp so he wont be missed.hes as worthless as makarfi.ubale shittu's case is like that of nazif and misau.same as ibrahim danbaba in sokoto.
Buhari won benue by 100k votes.this was down to akume's genius not ortom.akume wins his seat without campaigning.akume was the face of apc as at 2015.most of buhari's winning votes came from his zone.ortom is a liability and wont be re-elected.but lets assume ortom and gemade brought 100,000 votes.
In adamawa,abdulaziz nyarko joined adc not pdp same as his father so we cant assume those votes will go to pdp.but since buhari won here by a margin of 100k,lets assume they brought 50k votes.
Pdp usually wins kwara by 200k vote margin with buhari always getting up to 100k.lets assume saraki contributed 200k votes to buhari.
In sokoto,buhari has always won here.the margin was increased in 2015 mainly due to wamako's factor not tambuwal.lets assume tambuwal contributed 100k votes to satisfy you.buhari usually gets 1.6 million while pdp usually gets 500k in kano.in 2015 it increased by 300k with pdp votes reducing by 300k meaning he contributed 300k votes.that means all those decampees contributed 750k votes to apc.

Pdp won in akpabio's zone by 400k votes.senator andy ubah is worth 100k votes.ogbuoji 50k votes,hope uzodinma 100k.ideozu and mannah 100k votes from rivers west.uduaghan 50k votes,shekarau 200k.senator owan enoh 50k.thats over a million cancelling that of your so called defections.please dont raise this matter again.

You don't get it, buhari rode on people's back while some rode on his back. Why is buhari/apc afraid of having the presidential election stand alone while NASS elections hold on different day,why?

You buharists are over rating buhari.

2019 in the north will be like 2011.

senatordave1:
He can only lose grounds in taraba and adamawa not borno and the others.how many defections or criticisms or rumblings are you getting from here? The way buhari is loved is different,no other person is loved like that except maybe the sultan.the last person that had this kind of love is the sardauna or aminu kano.
The love they have for buhari started in the 1970s when he was military governor of the then north east.it didnt start today.its not a blanket love.the late general shehu yaradua had this kind of love which was transferred to his junior brother late musa yaradua.its not blanket or automatic.they dont just love any northerner like that or muslim anyhow please.
Moreover,incumbents presidents do not allow vote sharing in their regions.expect rigged results from buhari.by the way apc has made more grounds in the south.
North central has nevef been anybody's base but always 50 50 like the west.pdp true base is ss/se which was usually inflated with federal power

North central has always been stronghold of pdp from 1999 till 2015. Buhari/apc victory in the zone 2015 was accidental not norm. The region is fully back to pdp cos the apc/buhari's experiment has been disastrous. NW and NE will experience at Least 15% upsurge for PDP over 2015 performance. It will be more like 2011 for pdp.

senatordave1:
For north central,your correct.in the northwest,it should be 80%.apart from southern kaduna,few parts of kebbi and parts of kano,i dont see where pdp has presence and can make impact.tambuwal and kwankwaso who cant even visit kano cannot stop buhari from allocating votes here.
In the north east,pdp has given up hope on places like borno and yobe.apart from dogara lga,pdp has no presence in bauchi.pdp has presence in gombe but buhari owns here.adamawa is 50 50.taraba is slightly pdp so this should be above 70%

You are in denial. The day kwankwaso will enter kano, the entire state will be lockdown. Like a yoruba saying goes ' a child's father's house doesn't scare the child'!

Apc/buhari will be shocked by the groundswell of discontent across the country and specifically in the north!

slivertongue:
NC=APC-50 PDP-50
NE=APC-65 PDP-35
NW=APC-70 PDP-30
its a north north contest, wia insecurity &hunger is drivin d debate

Your head is there.

senatordave1:
You always talk of net gains of pdp from the defections of 3 govs,37 nass members.apart from saraki and kwankwaso,who else there added votes to apc or has electoral value

All of them will add votes to pdp. The cumulative effect of their votes addition will swallow whatever minus Akpabio and other defectors to apc have.

For instance, the defection of Hunkuyi to PDP in kaduna will boost the chances of the party while Diminishing APC's.

PDP will have net gain with tambuwwal in Sokoto same with Misau and nazif in bauchi it won't be 900k to 80k of 2015.

When you take benue for instance, it is now firmly back to PDP and by implication, the NC is now back to PDP .

senatordave1:
Guy,you have a comprehension problem oh or you deliberately decided not to remember what you read or you just feel like trying to insult me when theres nothing to insult.its clear your the ignorant one here except you show where i said apga or sdp are going to win

Win jack is a dismissal of whatever projection you are making for parties outside apc and pdp regarding presidency.
Hope that helps.

senatordave1:
Nigerians wull actually be traumatized if pdp returns,its unimaginable.apga is partially strong in nasarawa and maybe taraba where pdp is strong.
It seems you dont follow happenings offline.an average ibo man is an apga member at heart,theres this emotional attachment to it just like in the biafra case.you wont understand sha,apc and pdp are superficial

You are displaying a surprising level of ignorance my brother.


Forget all the noisemaking parties, the presidential election is a two horse race. Apc V pdp.

Others won't win jack!