"I wonder if they'll laugh when I'm dead ...

Why am I fighting to live if I'm just living to fight?
Why am I trying to see when there ain't nothing in sight?
Why am I trying to give when no one gives me a try?
Why am I dying to live if I'm just living to die? ... "


- Runnin' (Dying to live)
Tupac Shakur featuring the Notorious B.I.G.

Seun, give us our thread back - Yoruba Commonwealth & Politics.

Even in death, she still looks beautiful...

Mynd44:
@Gbawe, can you pick up where you stopped? Or if you have any complaint/suggestions, please send me a PM and we can talk about it.

@Modath, I have already mailed you twice yesterday. Can we just move on?

Ogbeni Mynd44, editing people's post is wrong in its entirety. Hide the posts, instead.

modath:



How ya doing ojare?? Found ya Damita Jo yet?

Mo wa pa o, Aunty Modath. Mo lero pe you're doing great too!

You know, this thread's the only reason I've been logging on to Nairaland for the past 3 weeks or thereabout. It actually ebbed away my tribalistic and trouble-cum-ban-causing tendencies as I seldom visit other threads.

Now, some "saintly" people think we aren't doing it well. O ga fun won sha

Damita Jo? Not yet. I've given up on finding her on NL, though.

...so heartbreaking to see this thread lose its fervour and liveliness.

Shymm3x:
tupacshakur

You'll like this, darg. Even heavyweight boxer, Anthony Femi Joshua, is one of the sons Tupac Shakur raised. Yoruba sons and Tupac Shakur are like coco pops and fresh milk. Tupac Shakur raised us all - THUGLIFE!

NIGGA according to Tupac Shakur = N.ever I.gnorant A.bout G.etting G.oals A.ccomplished. THE GOAT!

And Anthony Femi Joshua on his twitter page below:

THUG LIFE - The Hate U Give Lil' Infants bleeps Everyone...

Thug till I die!

CabbieAC:





Truer words never been said

When someone tells you he knows small London,never take him for jokes lol

Aare baba, I tried quoting Shymmex but he seems to have deactivated his account.

Why na? The thread is back to the Politics section, after all.

Shymmex, no try am o. Come back to this thread sharp sharp!

Abi na Shymmex be TreyQ?

CabbieAC:
Speaking of Tupacshakur

I stumbled upon a thread where you were telling that foo.l to come jam you at small London Iya ma je were

I believe you were talking about Medube right?

MayorofLagos,are you familiar with Medube?

Iya o ba ti jeju . Mi o ti e ni ra igbo fun awon smallie mi ki won to na kisa kuro l'ara e!

Small London is different from Medube.

Medube is just opposite Small London, across the road from Small London but still within Shitta.

Medube is around where the popular Lemo joint is situated. Those zones are for the strong-hearted, if you know what I mean.

Marijuana, gbana, hard drugs, wild b!tches, gambling, guns and all other vices you can think of.

Shymm3x:


I think the reason why you keep questioning the existence of a supreme being is basically cos you're viewing things from the prism of Abrahamic religions' narratives. Once you use a clear mind and rid yourself of the allegories and tales of Abrahamic religions, you'll see a clearer picture.

You agree that there's no big bang. And we all know that the sun created the solar system. So the question is: who created living organisms and plants, and made sure that despite our uniqueness, all of creation interact with one another?

Now, you got me! I ponder that too, you know. And I must tell you, I have no explanations for them.

I still marvel about how sex between males and females create another separate being. You know, just a meeting of microscopic sperm and ovum, and a child is conceived and born after 9 months.

But don't you think the being who designed that complex system was created by some other being. Now, who do you think that being is? Now you keep thinking and thinking till you can't think no more.

Are you saying you don't believe in the Abrahamic religions, the bible and the bibles' narration of the creation story? Those are the unconscious bases of your belief in a God, you know, even though you try so much to discredit them.

IlekeHD:


I like this ngga

Isn't now the perfect time for you to tell me what the "HD" means?

Shymm3x:
tupacshakur

What do you think about the inner voice you hear and intuition?

Don't you think something is responsible for that?

We all know the sun created the solar system but do you think a big bang created humanity?

Don't let biblical tales disconnect you from the most high...there's supreme being that guides the consciousness of humanity, but we as black people are just disconnected from it.

My only reservation with the late Tupac Amaru Shakur was his deep belief in God. Damn, that Nigger acknowledged God a great deal in his songs, poetry and interviews.

And now you, Shymmex.

Inner voice and intuition? The inner voices you hear are nothing but your innermost thoughts that come to you as voices from others. Your intuitive capabilities and dispositions have been ingrained in you since birth. No God is responsible for them.

In my heart of hearts, I really don't believe in the big bang theory, just as I think the idea of a God creating the entire universe and living things in 7 days is not only absurd but unrealistic. Don't you think a "God" capable of doing such great wonders would be too big, gargantuan and wonderful to be imagined. Now, don't you think if a "God" created something, then that "God" must have been created by some other "God". Now, infinite regression sets in.

If I were to choose between the big bang theory and the bible's explanation of the creation of the world, I'll go with the former, as it has some scientific basis.

...ain't no God, Bro!

IlekeHD:


Atheist or agnostic?

If you believe God is fake, but that there's something out there greater than us, then you're agnostic.

How did you become an atheist?

*will ask nikkigurl to bring you your drink*

I'm Atheist.

I only used the hypothesis to buttress a point. I have always doubted God's existence, even as a kid. Well, I grew from being agnostic to a type of Agnosticism that borders on Atheism...and now to a complete Atheist.

How I became an Atheist? Oro po ninu iwe kobo.

I'll tell that some other time. May be on another thread as I really don't wanna deviate from the purpose of this thread.

IlekeHD:


You sound like an atheist.....if so, I owe you a drink.

If not...... If the bible claims that we're all sinners [I find that I like to sin quite a lot], how can someone die sinlessly?

I am a staunch, unrepentant Atheist.

I'll prefer Hennessy.

Either there's no God or there's a God who doesn't deserve to be worshiped.

I'll go with my first hypothesis, any day, anytime. There is no God.

The second hypothesis can be succinctly justified from Richard Dawkins quote in his book, "The God Delusion":

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

The attributes he ascribed to "Jehovah" can be proven from various verses in the "Holy Bible".

Even if he exists, Why should I worship such a "God"?

veraponpo:


You and I are like the 170 million Nigeria football lovers that will always be quick to teach a professional footballer on the pitch and a professional coach what to do to win a football match for Nigeria.

Adeboye by human standard is a PhD holder and rose to become an HOD

Adeboye by spiritual standard is a Theologian and as a result more vast on spiritual matters than you and I

Adeboye has a proven relationship with God considering an avalanche of testimonies of what God has done through him and what God has revealed to him on many occasions which came to manifestation later

Now, by our (you and I) standard, do we know what he knows about this mama? Do you know if God has revealed things to him about her?

Amos 3:7 says ' Surely the Lord GOD does nothing Unless He reveals His secret counsel To His servants the prophets.

If the scripture above is correct, then Adeboye might be in the right direction. Enoch in the bible was human but was so perfect that he did not even die. Elijah was taken by chariot of fire, Moses tomb is not known till today, etc they were all human being like Adeboye, so stop being too skeptical about holiness and spiritual matters.

Except you can prove to me that Adeboye is not a servant of God.

Let's assume there's a "Christian God" up there.

How are you sure Adeboye fully and heartily abides by his teachings and tenets? How do you know he's not an Ogboni in his closet?

You shouldn't let the external aura of even the most religious people taint your judgement and perception about them. Don't be gullible, Nigger.

Now, let's assume he truly "hears" from "God". Isn't it proper and right if he keeps his opinion about such sensitive issue to himself?

And what does having a Ph.D have to do with this matter?

angiography:

Lol....this' a new twist to what's been peddled before as per Aregbe changing the state slogan...not a few people believed 'state of the living spring is CHRISTIAN' (Apparently Jesus, in Christianity, is referred to as the living spring.) and that changing it to 'state of virtue ' is giving credence to traditional believe/religion (coupled with changing the state's emblem to if a cowry, and ori omoolokun ).

this definitely is contrary to your opinion.
I think Aregbe tried to balance the equilibrium amongst the three religions...which again is contrary to Ur opinion

You're wrong, bro!

The slogan, "The state of the Living spring" perfectly depicts and propagates the insignia, core and crux of the state, the Osun Oshogbo river and the Osun Oshogbo sacred grove, a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

The river has been there, not only before Christianity arrived Nigeria in 1842, but before the birth of Jesus 2000 years ago.

veraponpo:


Do not judge without proving your case convincingly. If we agree that the Bible contains the words of God, it then means if you take some steps and die thereafter, you will make it to the kingdom of God.

The mama in question was able to rectify her way, she sought for forgiveness and died a week after praying for her children. I am in line with Pastor Adeboye on this.

At 99 few weeks to 100 years, what sin do you think she would have committed? Fornication, adultery, envy, stealing, etc?

I will rather be quiet on an issue like this than saying what might make me to sin.

You must be omniscient and very spiritual to have known she died without sins...

Do you know what's called Ese Afiroda?

Sins committed via one's thoughts.

Now, I'm not saying she died sinful. I just think Adeboye coming out to tell the whole world that she is in heaven doesn't only sound cocky and conceited, but also "unchristian-like".

angiography:

Lol...but somehow it isn't bad to have freedom of association and believe; of which personally I desired to be identified with Christianity.

albeit, the beauty of Yoruba land is in our diversity of belief...or unbelief....and tolerance has been our guiding principle from onset....so, I don't see the essence of the attack u launched via Ur post...

When it comes to relationships among Christians and Muslims, the emboldened is true to some extent.

Adherents of Yoruba traditional religions, on the other hand have been labelled as evil, fetish et al. by the followers of the imported religions like Islam and Christianity.

You wonder why Aregbesola changed the slogan of my beloved state of Osun from "The state of the Living spring" to one yeye "Land of virtue". The former slogan tends to promote our traditional religion and gods at the expense of imported religions...

That to me is intolerance of the highest order. Aregbe should be advised to appease the gods and goddesses of the land and revert to the old slogan with immediate effect, for sanity and prosperity to return back to the state.

O ni lati gbe ebo losi oritameta.

zimoni:


Well, I'm a christian sha.

Yet, Adeboye got it wrong. I'm beginning to hate the PastorPreneur.

That's the perfect word, Bro. PastoPrenuer!

Imagine a Pastor, fully cognizant of the extreme poverty in the country, using a jet worth more than 10 billion naira.

Some folks would say, he didn't buy it himself, that it was given to him as a gift. I think he should have sold it and use the money to feed the millions of hungry kids on the streets of Nigeria.

Other would say he needs it to keep up to time with his programmes and tight schedule abroad...As if he can't charter flights or book flights ahead.

Their Jesus Christ lived a very humble and mundane life. They should be seen to toe his line.

zimoni:
Adeboye: I Am Sure HID Awolowo Is In Heaven


The General Overseer, The Redeemed Christian Church of God, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, has said he has no doubt in his mind that the late matriarch of the Awolowo family, Chief Hannah Idowu Dideolu Awolowo, is resting with the Lord.

He said this on Tuesday while holding a private prayer session with the family at their Ikenne residence.

The cleric, who arrived the Awolowo home at 1pm, headed straight to the Efunyela Hall, where the prayer session was held with family members, relations, friends and other well wishers in attendance.

He said, “By the special grace of God and because of my interaction with Mama, I have no doubt at all that she is in heaven now.”

Adeboye, who shared his experience with the audience on how he was privileged to confirm that Mama was resting in heaven, explained that he had a personal encounter with her two weeks before her death.

He said, “Before Mama passed on, she was making a request and I was contacted. I won’t go into details about the request but I was abroad and when I came back I saw her and we had a little discussion before she passed away. As a result of that, I have no doubt that Mama is resting with the Lord.”

https://www.nairaland.com/2760396/adeboye-sure-hid-awolowo-heaven


What kind of talk is this nah? These Pastors should stop bullshitting us, this is bullshit.

Oro rirun...

Even if a "God" exists somewhere, did he disclose the names of those in his "Heaven" to Adeboye?

Adeboye should stop acting like he's the assistant or Spokesman to a "God" whose existence can not be empirically proven. Has he even been to "Heaven" before to know a "Heaven" exists?

I find it funny and sometimes, hard to believe that learned, schooled individuals, including most guys on this thread, believe that there's a heaven somewhere and People either go there or go to Hell when they die.

Christianity...deceiving and scamming my fellow Yoruba folks since 1842.

Churches...ripping Yorubas off (Via Tithes and Offerings) and destroying our traditional cultures and values since the active days of Henry Townsend and Thomas Birch-freeman in Badagry and Abeokuta.

SMH

Another 3 months?

I don't want to believe his pretty, young wife wouldn't be fuckin' another dick over there in the UK.

IlekeHD:


Ahh okay, well I am not she. The HD stands for whatever you like.

IlekeHD:


Who is Hannah Dideolu?

Obafemi Awolowo's recently deceased wife.

IlekeHD:


What's Yoruba's business with awon egbira?

I thought they don't see themselves as Yorubas, hence my question, why is it a victory for Yoruba people?

Ileke, sorry...I've been trying to figure out the meaning of the "HD" after "Ileke".

Does it stand for "High Definition" or "Hannah Dideolu" or something?

Would you mind disclosing it? I really need to stop trying to figure it out.

Shymm3x:


Lool. I thought you were messing around.

I never did twitter and facebook. I did mess with Hi5 when it was popping as a teenager cos that was everyone else was doing and it was the easiest way to meet nice chics outside ya area. Linked some of the most beautiful chics I've ever met on there. Then when myspace became the bomb, did that for a year during my first year in Uni and left it the internet alone. The internet is crazy. I met some naija american chic that scared me off the internet. Can you believe this chic used to ring me for hours almost everyday from the US and we were both teens? In her head, we were going out and only God knows how much she rinsed on phone bills. That ish was scary and after that, I just stayed off the internet thing. That's why I never really did facebook and Twitter...and even on instagram, I just check out people's pictures - that's about it.

I kind of grew into some type of overly observant guy and I pay attention to details too much these. Perhaps it's cos I don't like bring strange folks with negative energy around and cos I had anger issues when I was younger which I've been able to curtail in the last 5/6 years. In life, when you're able to move/grow from being reckless, self-destructive, and wild - to being reserved with a cool head on ya shoulder and a great listener. You just have to stay away from anyone/anything that will re-ignite the old and be safe.

Let me use examples of chics I mess around with on here to paint a picture (I just hope no one will be offended lol):

- There's this smart chic I used to admire from afar but I never chatted to her till one day when she said she has a crush on me. Subsequently, we became buddies and start chatting all the time. After a while, like a real nyggah ought to do, I decided to give her some space and let her breathe. I intentionally stopped quoting her. Then boom, one day she came at me and started asking me why I was ignoring her and questioning why I don't run after her every time I see her online. I was like WTF (in my head - never told her. I just laughed it off)? What type of entitlement is this on faceless forum, especially with someone I don't even know like that? And since you also see me online, how come you never bothered to chat to me? At least I would've responded if she did. That right there is a sign of an entitled and possessive chic that will make ya life miserable with emotional baggage. I still mess around with her but I'm scared of the chic.

- There's a next person that called me an "Ijebu tout" unprovoked in jest on this thread. I laughed it off. However, I know "tout" in English usage isn't offensive, but it's synonymous with thug/riff raff/miscreant in naija usage. So if someone thinks that lowly of you, despite the rapport, why would you want to be around such a person, unless you want to bring negative energy around you? Even when I was a knucklehead during my teen years to age 20 and was doing little dirt on them gully roads, I was able to combine two different lifestyles and no one ever called me a thug/riff raff/miscreant. So I'd rather things like that stay on here than let it happen in real life and in real time.

See when I meet folks in person - after two extensive convos, I know if they're trouble or not. And once I sense trouble, I just cut them off completely. Evidently once you start analysing how shady the internet is - you're always safer by staying away from the madness.

I think you need to hit social gatherings like: Churches, weddings, symposiums, seminars, birthday parties etc. I love weddings though. I never go to a wedding without getting at least one nice chic. You need to try that. At least with that, you'd know what the chic looks like and get the chance to have a decent face to face chat in real time.

P.S: can't be arsed to proof-read anything - ignore the typos.

Shymmex, you sure must have broken a lot of hearts, mehn!

Not that I'm bent on getting a wife on here, you know. I just think the possibility should not be ruled out.

Social gatherings? I don't like parties, you know.

Church? I'm an Atheist.

The scouting continues.

Shymm3x:


You might be right, but I seldom see them, apart from the family and romance sections where all they ever do is basically just antagonise men like bitter souls and destroy relationships/marriages.

I think tupacshakur is just clowning around. I honestly don't think any serious minded person, especially someone as outgoing as he's, would come on here to look for a partner. We're just clowning around. You can't find a wife on here - the chances are very slim.

Shymm3x, you really think I've been clowning around?

If people can meet and get married via Facebook and Twitter, why can't such happen on Nairaland?

I've met a Nairalander with my other moniker, you know and trust me , the relationship could have metamorphosed but she has a flat head and quite older than me. The c0itus was fantastic anyway. . Did I just "Kiss and tell"? No! She doesn't know me with this moniker.

I really don't want to mention names so as not to irk anyone, but trust me, there are some ladies on this thread that I would have loved to ask out but it seems they're all married or something. Some of them even have monikers that just wouldn't inspire you to make a move.

Shymmex, we've got to find a way to inject young ladies on this thread, you know. Young Yoruba ladies that the unmarried ones here can hook up with, in furtherance and betterment of the Yoruba Commonwealth. That's what the thread is all about.

Women and the stupefying power of the hole that lies at the meeting of their thighs.

Women...causing the downfall of men since the time of Adam and Eve.

SMH

Shymm3x:


Loool.

A lot of these chics are just shy. Don't worry one of them is going to ask you out soon.

There are just too many fugly chics on this forum and a lot of nutjobs. Then you've guys pretending to be females. So you gotta be careful when prowling so as not to get entangled in madness.

Shymm3x:


This is the best Henny right here.

If you haven't messed with the black Henny - then you need to step ya game up, my nyggah.

...never tasted the black Hennessy. How's the taste different from the "conventional Hennessy"? Any difference?

Shymmex, do you know I fell in love with that drink 'cos 'Pac was always mentioning it?

Remember these lines:

...and in the end, drinking Hennessy made all my enemies envy me. (Until the end of time)

They wanna know who's my role model. It's in a brown bottle...(Hennessy)

...and a lot of lines I can't remember now.

Has anyone else noticed that this thread is exactly a month old today, 22/11/2015.

Just a month and it's going on 300 pages.

Aareonakakanfo, waa gbayi, baba!

Chop knuckle! You too much!

One bottle of Hennessy VSOP for you.

ProfShymex:
Loool.

Now, I'm sorry, my thugmagnificent brother, tupacshakur. I keep linking you with married women.

And I can't give you one of my e-wives cos I already paid for the e-satin in their e-thongs.

Err...while we wait for, foyeks2001, I think dollyak isn't bad. She definitely needs someone like you to look after her.

I'll definitely help you find one soon, bruddah.

Shymmex, you sure ain't gonna put a brother in deep sh!t.

Married women? Magun is real, you know! Death is sure, no doubt, but I don't wish to exit the world via that route.

Henceforth, there's gonna be an extensive audit and background check (via checking of posts on Nairaland) on all potential chics before making moves on them.