₦airaland Forum

AfriqueDuZuid:
As said higher population plays a role in economic grown

Infrastructure development not so much

infrastructure development it's main driver of Kenya's economic growth

samorobo:
What about dangote refinery.


On Saturday, Nigerian businessman Aliko Dangote and Akinwumi Adesina, the chief of the African Development Bank, both toured the Nigerian greenfield crude oil refinery.

Dangote announced the plant’s will begin operations by the third quarter of 2022. The plant which is located in Lagos is hoped to be a game-changer that will spur Africa's development and deepen regional integration. The production will have at first a processing capacity of 540 000 barrels a day and is expected to reach full capacity by the end of the year or early 2023.

As you and I know we have heard similar stories in the past years until I see it operational...then the rest are just stories

AfriqueDuZuid:
Kenya population growth is at 2.3%
Nigeria at 2.5%
Tanzania at 2.7%

You see not much different from what is see... You always screaming that Nigeria making babies but it's almost similar

and it's on downward trajectory..
Explain to me why Tanzania hasn't overtaken South Africa yet it has high population..
We're catching up with you because of economic growth and infrastructure development dont hide behind population

samorobo:
You are making noise. Your lamu dream(it’s not feasible,they are serious economic concerns about the location of the port) is not bigger than badagry deepseaport,it’s just slightly bigger than lekki deepseaport which is set to go into operation September this year .

Badagry deepseaport should be about four times the size of lekki deepseaport and will take about 2.5 years to complete.

What are you talking about Kenya's lamu port is already functional

We know Nigeria with your stories who doesn't know about dangote oil refinery or about that Lebanese city in Lagos

AfriqueDuZuid:
GDP you will surpass one day due to booming population

Infrastructure development lol 200 years

Plus you still aiming for hillbrow of 70s

If it was about population growth Tanzania could have overtaken you by now it's purely economic and infrastructure development

GeneralDae:
Including Lekki deep Sea Port?? Note that the construction of Africa's largest deep sea port (Badagry deep sea port) started officially in March 2022.

Maybe compare the size lamu port 3 berths are already working

jl115:
Then don't compare Kenya to South Africa

You started the comparison

We're catching up anyway with your stagnanting economy

jl115:
You mean the one that is looking increasing like it won't be completed?

3 berths are already completed so does some of the supporting infrastructure

jl115:
I said it was a driving factor.........and infrastructure development is also driven by population growth

Okay I agree but don't compare us to Nigeria

jl115:
and IPPs have been approved in SA....so yeah

Kenya is trying to renegotiate ipps to bring down the cost of power

jl115:
1 vs 8

Lamu port will dwarf any port in subsaharan Africa

jl115:
Congrats so 1 third have permanent load shedding

Electricity connections is still under expansion

jl115:
Did I say population growth was the only factor?

You only mentioned population growth meaning it was your main factor..why didn't you mention infrastructure development

jl115:
- Are you catching SAin 20 years....nope
- You have 1 major port...we have 8
- actually 4 times and will still be bigger in 2050

We're building One of the biggest ports in Africa lamu port
Mombasa port is being expanded almost every year with massive special economic zone behind it

jl115:
South Africa has 85% electrification....Kenya - 70%

70% with no load shedding

And it was less than 30% ten years ago

jl115:
actually your population growth is a driving factor

Not it's not why is Tanzania not closing the Gap.. it's pure infrastructure development and economic policies

jl115:
yes by 2100 due to sheer population growth....same reason Nigeria overtook SA

Nope our population growth is among the lowest in Africa that's not an excuse if it's population Tanzania could have overtook you already

jl115:
what i said originally:



In terms of what is Kenya going to catch SA?....we already know it ain't economy, can't be road network because we are at least 80 years(11th in the world), can't be rail because we are over a 100 years ahead there(13th in the world) , can't be airports(20th in the world), not see ports, can't be sporting infrastructure, definitely not catching our Universities, not catching our Health sector(especially private)

so you ain't catching our economy or infrastructure....so what exactly are you catching??

Our road infrastructure is greatly improving compared with where we were 10 years
On seaports Mombasa is second only to Durban in subsaharan Africa and is undergoing major infrastructure makeover
I told you people ten years ago South Africa economy was 10times the size of kenya now it's only 3 times that should tell you something

Shma:
Ethiopia and Somalia are very powerful nations. Political instability is killing those nations - the same case for Nigeria - with poor governance.

Ethiopia was doing very well in particular too bad the civil war broke out

jl115:
It was Kenya vs SA however since Kenya only has one city worth mentioning that is why Nairobi is part of the conversation.

No it wasn't

Shma:
Mombasa, Kenya.

Some think only Nairobi is developing

GeneralDae:
Okay now I see. In 2020, when they rebased it, they arrived at 370 Billion dollars, just 5 Billion dollars short of Nigeria which was at 375 Billion dollars then.
Kenya is growing but I don't believe they would surpass South Africa anytime soon. Ethiopia was also growing at a very fast rate at one time.

Political instability and civil wars doomed Ethiopia if not that they could have been approaching 200billion now

GeneralDae:
South Africa rebased their economy to get to 435.

With they 2% growth and negative 7% growth we will catch up with them

Shma:
Nairobi is something else. We just need to keep it up on the complex infrastructure - that are rare in African cities.
I like the kind of viaducts going on in Nairobi.

Just housing and public transport and we are good

Jamestown123:
I'm not from South Africa my bro.

From Nigeria
Anyway south Africa and Nigeria both have load shedding issues Kenya crossed that bridge in the nineties

Jamestown123:
Hahaha. Vibrant and dynamic economy, when the citizens are hungry, when crime is on the rise because of hunger. I keep telling you guys that nairobi is a one center development city. You guys are just being decieved and lied to, that your economy is growing.

No stop joking get your facts right there's more crime and hunger in Nigeria than kenya
if you don't know mombasa has more infrastructure development projects than Nairobi you know nothing you need to learn boy

AfriqueDuZuid:
GDP is not infrastructure development

Kenya's GDP has grown mainly because of infrastructure development in the country

Wuoche:
Just say that Addis Ababa is better than all West African cities, we will understand you. Anyway enjoy Nairobi.

Ethopians are coming to Kenya not the other way round

Jamestown123:
Lol. Kenya's economy is growing that fast, and it's not reflecting in the life of the citizens.

It's reflecting my boy
Relax until we overtake your beloved south Africa

Jamestown123:
Skycrappers springing up alone in Victoria island is more than the entire Skycrappers coming up in kenya. Just that you guys celebrate every little thing's.

No you are lying only the new Cairo is building more skycrapers than Nairobi in Africa those in Victoria are apartments and high rises
Skycrapers are sign of a vibrant and dynamic economy

Shma:
The point here is Nairobi is catching up with joburg soon. I don't have to stress my sentiment 1m times. You're not even thinking to see the logic - thats why you keep on bringing Kenya vs joburg.

Anyway, here is the list.
1. Britam Tower - 200m
2. Avic Office Tower - 184m
3. UAP Tower - 163m
4. Avic Hotel Tower - 141m
5. Times Tower - 140m
6. Prism Tower - 133m
7. LeMac Tower - 126m
8. Parliament - 125m
9. Teleposta Tower - 120m
10. Avic Residential 1 - 116m
11. Avic Residential 2 - 109m
12. Avic Residential 3 - 109m
13. KCB Tower - 109m
14. KICC - 105M
15. Upper Hill Chambers - 104m
16. Social Security House - 103m
17. Avic Residential 4 - 102m
18. One Place Africa - 100m
19. 88 condominium - now past the 100m mark.
20. CBK - 140m
21, 22,23 .. Are all 99m.
More under construction.

He can't believe Nairobi has over 20 buildings which are 100m
Kenyan economy is vibrant compared to south Africa economy which is dragging itself

If a zoo like Nigeria can overtake South Africa what about Kenya.. although when it comes to the zoo it's down to over breeding and high population