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Maximus69:
They're welcome!

But don't go far so you can see how frustrated they'll become after noticing that they never understand anything in the Bible after all their supposed experience in their former business centers (Church) has been uncovered as ignorance!

many people do not understand this. I pity them for wasting precious time every sundat.

Stephenmoka4:
Maybe you'll have to type it all in one place and when you're ready with the conclusion, you can drop it here. Don't know if it works that way

i will drop it this month in any case

Stephenmoka4:
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this is the exact reason i have been feeling laid back concerning this.

Stephenmoka4:
Wait you were referring to God in the person of Jesus all this time, cuz Jesus didn't kill and that's true.

do not give life to my words. Stop implying. Every statement taken out of its context looses its meaning

ok, can we make a deal? I want to update this thread daily for the next few days. I would not like anybody to comment anymore, untill i come to the conclusion of this matter.

If you guys agree, then i will have to start tomorrow. Keep any questios u may have, as those questions will be answered during the process of updating the thread. But if after the thread is concluded, and u dont have your answers, u may go ahead to ask...only when i conclude.

If anyone interrupts the thread, thats the end.

freshboi88:
Oga if u do not have an input in this matter, abeg shut up!!!!!.....Let those who fight for what they believe in do so.

sincere apologies sir

ublight:
i get your drift Sir. Matterialism is now the drive for many ministers

this is one of the areas i cannot fault jw.

Maximus69:
You are right my guy!

But you can only finds members of JWs fighting over material possessions that is personal NOT doing so because of the money dedicated to pure worship! Matthew 6:24

Adeboye and other leading Pastors of RCCG are at war over what supposed to be dedicated to God!

So if those leading the group are fighting over material things which were contributed to support pure worship, how are they going to control members not to do the same over material things?

i get your drift Sir. Matterialism is now the drive for many ministers

Maximus69:
There are members of JWs that use charm to achieve what they want nah, that's normal human trait but the Organization doesn't support that, it's what what normal human everywhere do think he/she could use to fight and get what he wants just like physical weapons, many use sex to get what they want and so many other things.

What i'm saying is God's holy spirit will not allow leaders of God's people to start fighting over material possessions like what is happening in rccg!

Sir, these pastors are also human beings trying to get what they want using charms. Are they not human beings again? Or have the become God since they are pastors? Same way a normal believer can walk in the flesh is the same way a pastor can do so too.

karo93:
Many instances have been dropped on the page. Can you disprove them or not?

If you cant, just delete the thread. Many people are actually eager to see if you can logically defend this position.

All this your strolling around saying "wrongly taught christian, certainly not God" is not the detailed explanation you promised.

IMHO I dont think God wants anyone to cover up or defend him. He knows and stands by all the things he has done. He is God.... not a cute teddy bear.

He killed in sodom and gommorah
He killed the inhabitants of the then world by flood
He ordered the complete massacre of the amalekites and their animals too
He ordered the massacre of Jezebel and her family

He struck down Herod, annanias and saphira in the NT

He is God and he doesnt need your defence.

well spoken. If you follow this thread long enough, u will understand. No man can defend God, but men can reveal who God is, what he has done and not done. This is no defence mechanism. If you want to stay and learn, do so. If not, pleaaase unfollow the thread. God bless u

Maximus69:
How many places have you been?

How many ethnic conflicts have you seen?

Well i've seen many cases where JWs will stiff their necks to save their members during conflict, the Catholic that house you never did so based on faith Sir, he did so because you are black like himself and both of you met in the land of white skinned people!

based on faith or color doesn't matter, he did what you wouldnt do.

Having carefully followed this thread from the beginning to this point, i am really disappointed. None of the parties involved can do a proper bible exegesis.

I commend the freshboi for all his effort, but he needs to study more and well before jumping into matters like this. The jw's made him look like a joke.

I was born into a family filled with jw's. Infact my dad's elder brother was an elder there, but his wife murdered him in 2007 like i said earlier. I have other uncles who cannot fault how i explain the scriptures even though they are jw's. Infact my step cousins wife, a member of jw from birth now sits at my feet to learn doctrine. My step cousin is just too proud to do same, but he has no qualms with his wife learning from me.

I love the jw's a lot, there are things that they know that many others don't. If only churches would stop the fun fare and razmataz, and learn doctrine, they would go far. However, there is a mighty flaw in their doctrine.

I do not claim to be infallible, i still learn daily. But listen, what you guys did here is no where near sound doctrine. Both parties are greatly flawed.

Before you drag me into this war, let me state here that i am not a keypad warrior. My doctrine is for those i knock on their doors to preach to, not for some argument on nairaland.

Freshboi, u did a good job standing alone for the major part of the argument, that is commendable. Please my guy, study more i beg u.

Bless u all.

Maximus69:
That's common in every group on planet earth, one thing that God's people have that no other group can't is the strong bond amongst them.

For sure Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus for money, Peter denied Jesus three times, he even denied his fellow Christians in the presence of Paul, a Christian in Corinth slept with his father's young wife and so on but that doesn't notify the fact that if you're not one of them you will perish!

So it's not a matter of flimsy cases that's found anywhere but what you can't find elsewhere "the strong bond"!

so y making it look like na only rccg dey use charms, even though i dislike their doctrine, i know that there are good folks there too

Maximus69:
You need to wake up my guy!

No social club will protect you in the face of racial prejudice, once it's about Hausa against Yoruba or Igbo against Yoruba or Nigeria against Ghana, even the most powerful cult on this planet will deny you as a brother!

a jw woman murdered her husband in rumudara 2007. She was suspecting infidelity. So much for a peace loving people. U need to wake up to realize that it is just a matter of individual variation.
A roman catholic brother whom i met on facebook housed me in F.U.T.O when i was doing pre degree, for an entire year. He is igbo, and i am not. Till today we are still best of friends. I just met the guy on a group on facebook.

Guy wake up. No be only jw dey show love.

Maximus69:
You're quick to condemn people instead of calmly reasoning to know what they're saying!

Jehovah's Witnesses don't condemn you or any other person. What we're saying is "your faith that's not working out fine qualities amongst you people is DEAD" James 2:18-26 compare to Matthew 7:15-20

Take for instance your daddy GO and his co~pastors under the same Organization, using charms against one another because of position, prominence and money.

What Jehovah's Witnesses are saying is
"if such is happening within them, then it's not the spirit of our God that's operating in their group" Galatians 5:19-21

you dare talk charms, when a jw fellow used charms on his elder brother to inherit the only land they were supposed to share?
Another jw fellow went to get charms on her inlaw who revealed that she was a LovePeddler in the past?

Like i said every religion has the good, bad, and ugly.

Maximus69:
That's the one and only mark Jesus said will help interested individuals identify his true followers (God's people)!

As a Muslim i tried different groups claiming Muslims (true believers) to find such love but there is none. Until i found what i so much hungered for all my life in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses!

So if you claim Christian but members of your group can't welcome you anywhere you go as their family member the same way Jehovah's Witnesses does, then something is wrong somewhere!

Mr. Please do not push this fact too far. I did not expect to be discussing this again. Are you saying that there are no other social clubs out there where one can be welcomed if he travels to a different city where such clubs are located? If there are, then does this mean they represent Christ, even when they clearly do not belive in Christ?

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmm, i perfectly understood you my guy!

Of course you will find both nice and wicked, decent and indecent people in any society, but it's only in the midst God's people that you can find LOVE, JOY and PEACE!

I have been to many places and the only group that will welcome their members even though they never met before is Jehovah's Witnesses!

They're like a global family, they've swept all their differences into the trash, there is no racial prejudice that can make them deny their Christian brothers and sisters, you're not safe as a members of any group if you're not in the midst your own blood relations once there arise any racial dispute, but anywhere Jehovah's Witnesses may be on this planet as long as they're in the midst of their members they feel at home because they will never support any race against another!

That's one thing you can't find in any religious group except in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses (the one and only TRUE Christian group). Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to John 13:34-35, 17:20-23

God bless you!

Sir, i am glad u now see that we never had a disagreement concerning how u guys welcome urselves.

sonmvayina:
Our goal on Earth is to move humanity forward,but you guys dwelling and believing in myths ..is not really helping anybody, is it?

u sound interesting. I would like to hear more of this ur doctrine, unfortunately i might end up making u disbelieve what u already believe.

Maximus69:
I'm not doubting you my guy!

Notice that i never scold you for talking out of point, because what you're saying has no correlation with the thread nor my comment that you quoted, but you freely spoke your own mind!

What i'm saying is there are many virgins amongst them. Of course they're also humans having feelings like anyone else, so don't think like a child my guy you need to grow up. God's word never said there won't be fornicators or adulterers amongst Christians.
What God promised is PEACE amongst his worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4

It's God's Kingdom (Paradise) that will not accommodate sinners, that's why those who knew and acknowledged themselves as sinners are trooping into Jehovah's Witnesses Organization for the cure! Revelations 22:17

Apostle Paul mentioned fifteen works of the flesh {Galatians 5:19-21} as long as we still live in the flesh and amongst people who see nothing wrong in those things we will be influenced to imitate them at times, but as times go on if we do not tire out we will wash our robes clean in the blood of the lamb! Revelations 7:13-14

Gradually God's people as a group is cultivating the fruitage of God's holy spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} and most people like me have testified to it amongst them, but that doesn't implies that they're all cured of Adamic sin yet!

What God's word promised as sign to note amongst his people is LOVE {John 13:34-35 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4}

If there is no sinner in their midst won't you be scared?

That's the sign to show you that they're not robots but each one of them is working hard to put on the new personality! Ephesians 4:24

God bless you!

Sir, let me quickly remind you that it was your statement about the CONDUCT of your people that made me veer off the topic. You claimed their conduct is exemplary, but you did not make any exemptions. That is why i had to correct that notion cos i know that every sect has people who are morally upright and those who are not.

Maximus69:
My friend, when i said i've heard it doesn't mean hearing per say, it involves verification!

I was a Muslim before i join the group and i've seen many cases where JW groom's families takes gifts items like life goat or ram to the parents of the bride several days after their wedding, so i began asking questions regarding this tradition.

Then i was made to understand that it happens when the bride is found a virgin!

Ever since then i've been watching them closely to be sure if it's just their normal custom, until i later discovered that some don't do it!

So don't just think every JW you meet preaching and teaching God's word in the group grew up from their midst just to support their own religion, i was a staunch Muslim before i began listening to them after hauling insults, abuses even threaten to assault their members physically.

But today i'm always grateful to them for their persistence back then!

guy me i know promiscous ones here. I even get personal experience. U no dey hear me? I do not mean the ones that stopped, i mean those that are actively knacking.

Maximus69:
Well i've also heard of many Virgins in their midst even now that virginity is no more taken seriously!

oga na hear u dey hear, u never see. Anything virginity u hear and cant see na audio virginity o. Me i dey see dem well. Infact i been wan yan one story, byt make i free am. I do not kiss and tell.

Maximus69:
To you Jehovah's Witnesses' interpretation contradicts God's word.

But they're the one and only organization producing the fruit of God's holy spirit like LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS KINDNESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL in our society.

It was so obvious that everyone, everytime and everywhere are saying Jehovah's Witnesses have LOVE amongst themselves! John 13:34-35

Well i prefer their interpretation that's why i left Islam for their faith! Matthew 5:14-16

jw girls can fornicate o.

Stephenmoka4:
I'm a Christian but, I can tell that if God can give life, he can also take life.
Matthew 10:28
King James Bible
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not
able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is
able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
It is good I show you something in private concerning this God cannot kill but, if you want it here it might stir up division.

a wrongly taught christian

Harshirama:
God doesn't kill because Jesus doesn't/didn't. Simple

correct answer. I am glad someone knows this

Dantepet3000:
First and foremost most girls don't realize that most men spend more than they earn. All in a bid to enhance affection towards them.
I dated her for two years until that faithful day she found my salary voucher on my bed. Tho I do other side hustlE that enabled me pay her bills.
I've always known that when she discovers the amount I earn in my company, she will be scared of the future between us.I remember the days in shoprite that I was only able to afford bread. Oh my God,I don suffer. Anyway I had plans for us despite my 45k salary of an MSC holder. There is no financial hole I did not help her block. Infact I did what guys who earn more than me couldn't do. She started misbehaving towards me ever since she saw that pay cheque. What she didn't know was that I did not use my other professional qualification in the company and when she left me, I decided to forward other qualification to our management. Like play like play my salary rose to 75k after 3months 100k after 6 months 120k, now I am a site manager and I earn 360k. I believe the whole graduates in her family don't earn what I now earn combined. I am not proud or beefing anyone. Am just reminiscing. By the special grace of God I will even go higher...
PS. Now I am spending my money on my mum and family. I thank God for another chance. Bless

oga do giveaway...lol

Faithful4real:
1 Samuel 2:6

The LORD killeth , and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.

make sure you follow this thread. I will answer this question one of these days.
The problem i have teaching in nairaland is that people will end up derailing the thread.

Dantedasz:


It seems you get your kicks from trolling and making silly statements you can't defend.

i don't make claims i cannot prove.
Sir for your information, systematic theology is not a joke. It certainly cannot be done here. I respect you a lot, i am sorry if i gave you a wrong impression, but i certainly do not do bible teachings frivolously. If u think you have something genuine to disprove christ, we could do it somwhere private.
Bless your heart

Thelucifer666:
Who struck down onan for refusing to cum into hes dead brothers widow?
Genesis 38:8-10
8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.

if u think God did that, then you deserve my sympathy. Sorry

Pascopele:
is this your number zero eight one eight 237 nine nine two nine?

yes