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Christianity EtcRe: Hell:a Bundle Of Lies. by uchmangrt(m): 11:19am On Aug 27, 2008
@ IDINRETE, stand where?

you are busy hailing zino ben,and am yet to read your own post on the thread.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell:a Bundle Of Lies. by uchmangrt(m): 11:01am On Aug 27, 2008
Idinrete where do you stand seef?
Christianity EtcRe: Hell:a Bundle Of Lies. by uchmangrt(m): 10:46am On Aug 27, 2008
Zino Ben:
@uchmangrt

1. I have read the bible and still read it these days not as a holy book but another piece of fiction literature in the mould of "Things fall apart, James hardley chase novels or the harry potter chronicles. They all share one thing in common. Historical fiction and if you get too engrossed in it, it might sound very real and true to you.

2. I probably know the bible better than you and if you quote this, i might just look up the passage or verse and quote other wise to contradict what you just said.

3.Yes your right, i stopped going to church when i realised that it was turning into a micro-finance bank filled with circus performers and wannabe conference speakers. I go once in a while when i am bored to catch up on the latest entertainment that i could have missed 6 months ago but i end up sleeping off when the pastor gets into his windy, long and boring fire branding message of the day. Anyway, the churches have a use to me whenever i go. Those pews are very comfortable when you want to sleep and they are really designed well. I ought to get one in my house someday. wink

4. I don't believe in the biblical god as the god that made heaven or earth or what so ever due to the inherent contradictions and half truths and uncompleted stories that can be best described as a fable. What i know is that how we are created is a mystery that hasnt been rationally explained and not because it hasnt been rationally explained by someone or a group, that doesnt mean we should now accept the stories of another group when it has no conclusive evidence.

There are so many gods ranging from allah to zeus, osiris, buddah, oduduwa etc with all different stories about how the world was created. If i can't believe the god zeus because it doesnt sound and feel right, what makes the god of the bible better than them? Theu all share the same characteristics of not been ever seen and their stories were written by the so called inspired men of these gods.

Until there is a rational and conclusive evidence that the biblical god made the heavens and earth, i will not rely on such fables as a source of belief. The most hilarious of the genesis story is the story that god removed a rib from adam and created eve. So god was involved in cloning way before dolly the sheep 5,000 years later? wink If he just created adam from dust just like that, why go through the stress of stealing a rib from adam and causing a deep sleep to create eve? at least when he made the male and female orangutans, he didnt remove the male tonsils of the orangutan to create the female orangutan neither did he do the same for the female kangaroos, male elephants and what so ever animals. Its even absurd to think of god just created over 100 million species of animals and insects male and female just in a day? shocked

Besides when god said lets make man in our own image, werent there any women in heaven or wherever he was just floating around from?, Jeez gimme a break!

5. Finally how can i believe the bible is a word of a holy god? A book filled with monsterous atrocities of the highest proportion, slavery, murders, debauchery,immorality, misnognmy,curses, homosexuality, drunkeness and the like and you want me to accept that as a book inspired by a holy and good god?, Abeg bros, forget that side.

Dont even push me to start quoting all these evil and demonic passages from the bible again. Its too nauseating to even think of it. lipsrsealed
Zino Ben,I think
I understand your state of perplexity,but you see if you want go by the use of the senses your comprehension of this subject and God will be abitrarily limited.Why? Because you will be limited to the five senses ie you will be judging base on what your five senses can grasp.God cannot be known or understood with the senses,you need faith knowlede to understand Him or know Him. And the faith knowledge can only be accessed through the Bible because God is a Spirit and until you come to that level you will never comprehend. I was once carrying this kind of mentality of yours.

Now take for example,pause a little bit and ponder on how come the entire universe and the fullness thereof using the senses you will come to a point of rational analysis of a GREATER FORCE somewhere that must have been the architect behind.Your upgrading to faith knowledge via the study of the Bible will clear you up of these plights gripping your understanding.

Now,whatever events that took place wheather evil or good  which were recorded in the Bible are for your learning and for the purpose of reference.You see Zino,the bible is an encyclopedic Book oldest of all addressing whatever bugging issues in life. It is a book of wisdom both ancient and now.

The Bible says it is only a fool that has said in his heart there is no God[Ps.53:1].
2]For whatever things that were written aforetime were written for our learning,that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope[Rms 15:2].
My brother please think again huh

Please come to terms with these truths.
Christianity EtcRe: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by uchmangrt(m): 12:06pm On Aug 26, 2008
hubreality:
[color=#000099][/color] My dear Paulipopo, Miracles that came out from the demonstration of God's Word and His Spirit can only be TRUE! If the Spirit of Him that raised JESUS from death dwells in you, you will pray by the Power of the Holy Ghost to multiply His Grace on Pastor Chris and many other anointed men and daughters of God all over the world. The devil is defeated already! This is not the play of theology, religion and it's politics!

hubreality honestly that was a good one. God bless you for that insight.
Most times people pursue shadows instead of the real thing. Imagine somebody castigating past Chris because of his hair do not minding souls that are being transformed via God's word.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell:a Bundle Of Lies. by uchmangrt(m): 9:40am On Aug 26, 2008
Zino Ben,you sound to me as if you have not read the bible before or you don't go to church.Am soory if I sound absurd. But you see,this issue we discuss is not fabricated as you asume or think. You keep saying it is unintelligent,of course you would not understand the scriptures with a reprobate mind. Hell according to the Scripture is a place of purnishment for sinners.

Pleas sorry if I may ask you this.Do you believe in God as the maker of heaven and earth or you think He is a kind of deity existing somewhere?

2] Do you read the Bible?If you do,do you believe it as the word of God?

If you can answer the above questions,I think it will help me to know from which angle you are looking at it.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell:a Bundle Of Lies. by uchmangrt(m): 4:06pm On Aug 25, 2008
Zino Ben that was a total show of good skill in writing, but you know nothing about the subject.Honeslty, you are confused.Don't worry so much continue in your evil ways with this mentality of yours hoping there is no hell.My brother hell is so real and cannot be escaped by evil doers. It is unfortunate that you have a reprobate mind. I am not going to quote the Bible yet. The generation of Noah had the taste of it and this generation's is going to be more severe according to Scriptures. My brother please think again! huh
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Africa III (3): Official Thread by uchmangrt(m): 2:31pm On Aug 25, 2008
abeg how much
is DSTV. I cant afford not to watch this BB3

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