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Shabib:
I respect your opinion, Sir. Thanks for voicing it.
Good morning and have a nice day!

Thanks friend.

Hardeysolution:
next year may be different sir. In times past, schools have different styles... .so a candidate must still sit calculate.. ..thats who a student is.. .......no problem sir.. .just an opinion

Next year may or may not be different. I do this for that.

Thanks Sir. I appeciate.

Hussmanov:
OP thanks ,we really appreciate ur effort

You're welcome, bro. Don't forget to always check on the blog.

Thanks for stopping by.

DokitaDave:
Hello everyone.

Someone told me the merit list is out and pasted at the "admin." block of the school.

I think UI always put the names of those given admission on the website.

So, I am not sure if my source was right after all.

UI always paste the names on her website. I'll have to confirm that.

olaitan93:
please what course would you advice me to change to as a comp sci aspirant with a score of 54.3..so I don't lose my chance,been home fr yrs now o

I'll advise you change to one educational course like education physics or chemistry but make sure the subjects' combo are the same first.

Thanks for stopping by.

Who knows, the merit list may eventually be released brfore the COC.

jboycoded:
was surprised as to why COC came before merit list.well no probs,we kip on marching forward.aluta continua,Victoria ascerta.

Seems they want to release the two lists together.

You're the real man, bro.

Hardeysolution:
OAU has changed method to 6-5-4-3-2-1 go and recheck your score... Ehn.. ..and comparing this thing.. ..i don't understand.. ..teachers sef have different methods of turning 40 points for obj and theory each to 100.....some may turn obj to 20 by dividing and multiply theory by 2 to make 80. Some may add them together and divide by 80 then multiply by 100... Different school Senate with different people with different ideas.. .expect different results....

What i'm saying in essence is that, all schools in Nigeria are supposed to use the same method all through. This will give a candidate the privilege of choosing whichever school interests him or her.

With this situation of using different method of screening, an aspirant will have to sit down and start calculating which school's method will favour him the most. This will further increase the number of candidates choosing a particular school.

Lastly, i compared the methods to give aspirants an insight on which school's method will favour them the most and to choose rightly in the subsequent years.

I hope i've answered your question. Thanks for stopping by. Peace!

DokitaDave:
Hi OP,

Over time, which one is announced first between the merit list and the Change of Course thing?

The merit is announced first as it was done last year. This year may be different though.

mathefaro:
Rest in Peace bro. May the Lord grant your soul eternal rest

Please, what happened to Micheal? He's been very useful on this thread. I remember him from last year's thread also.

https://www.nairaland.com/3430701/all-ui-change-course-coc

All about UI's Change of course.

Shabib:
Nice analysis, op.

Richiez, Olawalebabs. Help his ministry.

Thanks bro

Cc: Lalasticlala
Fynestboi
Richiez
Olawalebabs

The much awaited COC will be out next week. We don’t have much details about it for now. It was only stated on their website [url]admissions.ui.edu.ng[/url], a little inconspicious at the right-bottom that:

"CHANGE OF COURSE
Change of Course into University of
Ibadan for the 2016/2017
Admission Session will commence
next week."

Now, let’s get to the main points.

Before that, we all know that the COC is an avenue for; we can say a chance given to those who didn’t get up to the cut-off marks of their various courses to change to some courses with spaces left in their admission quota ie. number of candidates to be admitted.

Now to the important points.

1. Have it in mind that not all courses will be on the COC. The courses with spaces left to admit candidates will be listed on the COC with the spaces left.


2. Before you choose a course to change to, make sure your subjects’ combination is the one required for that particular course you want to change to. In essence, pick up your brochure. NOTE: This is the most important point.


3. Note that new cut-off marks which will not be published will be determined for the available courses on the COC with respect to the spaces left and the scores of aspirants changing to each course on the COC.


4. Remember you are not the only one changing course, those with higher marks than yours who choosed courses with higher cut-off marks but didn’t meet the cut-off marks are also going to change to the limited courses available.

For instace, let’s assume that a naive student A with mark 65.75 in the screening didn’t meet up to the cut-off mark for medicine which was 76.65 and student B with mark 60.55 in the screening didn’t meet up to the cut-off mark for dentistry which was 64.29 and that both of them are friends.

The naive student will want to change to a course which will allow him to cross-over to medicine after his first year or a course in the college of medicine thinking he has a better chance of getting admitted than his friend, student B. He won’t think of those with mark 73.75; just 2 marks short of the cut-off for medicine who will also want to change to a course that’ll allow them cross-over to their preferred course after their first year or also a course in the college of medicine. If luckily, physiology with 14 spaces and MLS with 8 spaces both jumped on the COC, he will rush to pick either without thinking twice thereby competing with those[b] 8 marks higher[/b] than his score. If eventually he was not given admission, he’ll start wondering how his friend, student B with a good adviser got admitted.

He won’t know that his friend who really needed the admission changed to botany with 10 spaces. The friend knew that those with higher scores would have rushed to physiology and MLS, so he took his adviser’s advice and changed to botany. That’s exactly how the COC works.

Use your senses if you really need the admission.



5. And the last point is that: use your long legs. Whoever you think you know who works in UI, contact them. If you a person who knows a person who works in UI, contact them. Practically contact anyone you know there. You’ll see that this works wonders.

I’ve seen by myself a person who got 67 last year who choosed medicine which had a cut-off mark of 74 changed to MLS on the COC. He eventually was not given admission. Later, I heard about a person who got a lower mark and also changed to the same MLS given admission.

I also got another case but I don’t want to mention it here.

So, if you have long legs, use it.


NOTE: If you’re a mark or less short of the cut-off, do not fret. It’s most likely that you’ll be admitted to your preffered course. But to avoid a sorry case, it’ll be good if you also change your course in the COC. It’ll be a case of double chances of getting admitted.


And that’s all about changing of course in UI. It’ll most likely be free. Checkout my other articles at https://uivents.. If you have any question or a contradictory opinion, feel free to mention it by commenting below. All will be answered.

Thank you and God bless.

Writer: Uivents
Source: https://uivents.

Zizaxbast:
Nice analysis.

Thanks bro.

babyfaceafrica:
Okay

Yes, bro.

jaymejate:
No matter the grading system of the o'level, so far it's 50:50, all is the same.

You think so? Then work out the task given to you by 1.afrika.

1afrika:
I must be veracious by registering by acquiescence to your analysis. Very objective and balanced. We now seem to be on the same page.
More oil to your lamp bro.
I seriously hope to be less busy to compare OAU and UNILAG 's methods to see the truer 50/50. UI's system is far from 50/50.
Peace.

Peace bro.
OAU's method of using 3 other subjects makes it difficult to determine if it's a true 50:50.
Have a nice day.

rerhji:
well done

Thanks bro.

Lalsticlala, fynestboi. See something.

1afrika, what do you say to this?

Though they both used the 50:50 method, they used a very different method from each other in arriving at purported 50:50. Now let’s take a close look at both methods.



JAMB
They both used the method of dividing the jamb score by 8 which looks okay.


When it comes to the methods used by both for grading O’level, they both became diverse.
O’LEVEL

While UI used the common method of using the 5 relevant subjects for grading as used by most schools, OAU took it to another level. They gave the compulsory option of using 8 subjects; the 5 relevant subjects + 3 other subjects in your O’level result.

This method used by OAU will favour some and leave some at a disadvantage.

If I had good grades in my 5 relevants subjects but had fair or bad grades in the other subjects offered, the method will not favour me. And before you start saying i did examination malpractice for having good grades in just my 5 relevant subjects, remember i may be good at some subjects and bad at some.

If I had fair grades in my 5 relevant subjects but had good grades in the other subjects offered, the method will favour me greatly.


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Before we go further, remember OAU graded their aspirants’ O’level thus;

A1; 8 points,

B2; 7 points,

B3; 6 points,

C4; 5 points,

C5; 4 points and

C6; 3 points.

Then the 8 subjects will be devided by 64 then multiplied by 50; (8 subjects/64) * 50.


And UI graded hers thus;

A1; 6 points,

B2; 5 points,

B3; 4 points,

C4; 3 points,

C5; 2 points and

C6; 1 point.

Then the 5 relevant subjects will be divided by 30 then multiplied by 50; (5 subjects/30) * 50.
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Now let’s take a look at two students’ O’level result;

Student 1 had 3 B2s and 2 B3s in his 5 relevant subjects but had 3 C4s in the other 3 subjects the school wants to use.

The other, student 2 had 3 C4s and 2 B3s in his 5 relevant subjects but had 2 B2s and 1 A1 in the other three subjects the school wants to use.


If both are aspiring for OAU;

Student 1: 33 + 15 = 48/64 = 0.75 * 50 = 37.5.
Student 2: 27 + 22 = 49/64 = 0.7656 * 50 = 38.28.

From the information above, student 1 had 6 marks more than student 2 in his 5 compulsory subjects while student 2 had 7 marks more than student 1 in the other 3 subjects added. That one mark made the difference and made student 2 had 0.78 points more than student 1. If both had the same jamb score and are going for the same course, student 2 will have higher chance of getting admitted.


If both are aspiring for UI;

Student 1: 23/30 = 0.7667 * 50 = 38.335.
Student 2: 17/30 = 0.5667 * 50 = 28.335.

This is so glaring even to a blind. Just 6 marks difference in the 5 relevant subjects made a gaping 10 marks in the final score. If the two had the same jamb score and are going for the same course, it’s obvious student 1 has a better chance of getting admitted. No disputing the fact!


Conclusively, one must use one’s senses always. Scrutinize and see which method favours you.

If you want your jamb score to be weighed equally as your O’level grades; the true 50:50, Unilag and other schools which used their method of screening is the best to opt for. Check Unilag’s screening method https://uivents./2016/10/16/comparing-uis-method-of-screening-to-that-of-unilag-4/.

If you feel you have better grades in some subjects other than your 5 relevant subjects, then OAU’s for you.

Finally, if you have very good grades in your 5 relevant subjects, UI’s for you.

All that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get high marks in your UTME. You should, as it will give you a better leverage of getting admitted.

Which do you think is better? 5 subjects or 8 subjects? UI’s method or OAU’s? Drop a comment below.

Thank you and God bless.


Writer: Uivents
Source: https://uivents.

1afrika:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/jamb-says-point-system-circulation-not-criteria-admission/

Kindly note dt vanguard quoted jamb's spokesman in response to that ur punch reference. News is more than just papers bro.
Who did dt punch news quote sir?
Peace.

It was copied on a document on Jamb's website.
Wasn't it Jamb that was supposed to have done a press release to avoid speculations like that of Punch? Were they supposed to wait for the spread of doubts before clarifying it?
Even see the span between the release of the 2 articles.
Punch- July 5
Vanguard- July 11
Were they supposed to wait that long before clarifying an issue that affects all aspirants; up to 1 million?

And you said Jamb's stance was never clumsy. See yourself now.

1afrika:
U ve just lost loads of credibilty point from d above post despite d fact dt u r a blogger who seeks credibilty.
It's just unforunate that you capitalize on speculations and run-on fallacies instead of objective inferences and reporting.
I challenge you to reference your following words while I'll give u detailed official references to the contrary bro
*when and where jamb said point system shud b employed for ds year's admission
* when and where jamb said she'll give aspirants admission, as a matter of fact prof Dibu promised dt jamb would stop issuing admission letter this year.

You are about originating anoda misconception from my last msg, kindly check again, i never said d new jamb boss made requests on TETFUND. Why not find out what his requests were? They concern his board. TETFUND has its own boss.
None of d new jamb boss moves has been contrary to his immediate predecessor's. Seek clarifications where neccessary pls.
On UI's putme, story, if u need clarifications, kindly ask here. I shall gladly tell u, categorically, anyth u seek about it.
Lastly, I'll chose to ignore ur "I can see u are an aspirant" speculation.
Speculations are dangerous man, find out the cause of world war 1. Verify things b4 drawing conclusions.
Peace.

Bro, you're the one who should seek clarification/verification.

http://punchng.com/jamb-adopts-point-system-option-2016-admissions/

Peace.

mbhs139:
I am a post graduate student of statistics at the university of lagos, and i've been ruminating on what to write as my project topic. If you don't mind, may be I should just adopt this your calculation and submit it as my projetc, or may be we can collabo to write a paper on this. That is if we can lay our hands on the methods used by all the schools.

Very nice concept you have up there. Kudos!

Mail me.

fflamingo:
if jamb was frustrated they would have clamped down some school that charged above 2500. but nothing was said. the only instructions was don't conduct another written/oral pume. the schools Senate has d right to choose any modalities deem necessary and to checkmate institutions. Jamb made it compulsory for institutions to provide answers as to why the unqualified one were not admitted.

1afrika, see above. I can see you're an aspirant. What school disappointed you?

1afrika:
This is funny!
Yes, i thought nd d best answer, based on d logically obvious, is dt some schools are likely teaming up to frustrate jamb. Jamb's stance on ds issue has never been clumsy (refer to d news credited to d new jamb boss during d kano technical meeting)

When? @ boldened.
Find out UNN, Unilorin and Unimaid admission criteria and you'll av better insight into ds matter.
Also, find out what Prof Oloyede's requests to d Senate cmtte on TETFUND were (some today's papers reported dt).

Frustrate? How?

And you said this yourself ''credited to the new boss''. Is he the one who introduced the method? Was his not his predecessor? He's just trying to revert the mistake made by his predecessor, according to his actions including the TETFUND ish.

Then you said Jamb's stance was never clumsy, were you not in the country when Jamb said she was going to use a particular point method, only to say that the senate of each school has the ability to determine the admission criteria a few days later.
What about when they said they are to give admission to aspirants only or so and then forward the list to each school only to go back on their words some days later.

We get that the new boss is trying to give a new look to Jamb, but the milk is already spilt. His predecessor's policy can't be erased now. At least, it'll use a year more.

@boldened, read the history of UI's post-utme, you'll know when.

In your own words, Peace.

1afrika:
Are you "whyning" me?
They studied d results gotten from what method?
Let me set d aetiology of my disquietude clear, "calling such system 50/50 is dubious, illogical and like taking Nigerians for fools". If they like they can choose to use 70/30 or even 90/10 o'level/utme. Afterall no1 complained during their 60/40 days?
It's just unfortunate dt dey are like eating their vomitus now, in a bad manner tho.

There's nothing like false hope once the process is transparent. Do u think ppl with 70 will complain if d cut off was set as 90 for law? Of course they won't, as long as there was a levelled playing ground, just like in unilag's case.
Change of course has always been free in UI.
No aspirant in unilag can score below 50 as aggregate which showed equal regard for both olevel and utme (5 C6 nd 200 = 50) BUT how do u explain to someone with 310 nd 5C6 having 47. 05 when her friend with 5 B3 and 200 ended up with 67.9 as aggregate.
For unilag their aggregate will be 63. 75 against 65 which is a true reflection of equality. Forget about whether d latter eventually got admitted. 1 had excellent point from utme but low o'level points nd vice versa for the other. Their aggregate should b close.
With unilag's method, high aggregate can't be as a result of excellence in just 1 of o'level or utme, which is fair if cut off points soar.
The psychological pain of oppression and marginalization is enough to kill some minds.
Peace.

Ever thought about why OAU suddenly changed from their 70:30 method to 50:50? Don't you think Jamb is silently pressuring them to treat their exam as an equal to O'level like they did then? Since UI didn't want to do that, then they decided to outsmart Jamb. Is OAU method also a true 50:50?
At least, if Jamb sees 50:50, she won't be able to complain. Think about it. The blame all comes down to Jamb.

fflamingo:
both are policy formulated to cut down the numbers of students. if ui had use unilag policy, then everybody will score more than 50. then everybody would have the chance to change of course. then since pume days, ui always has the policy of anybody less than 50 can't gain admission to ANY course. if ui used unilag Modalities, everybody that did not meet cutoff will change course

cc: 1afrika. Though the method used by UI is clearly unfair, think about it. Why did they release the modalities after all aspirants registered? They probably studied the results and came up with one method not to give aspirants false hope. Those aspirants, even if they choosed UNILAG will eventually not be offered admission because they won't meet the cutoff. They will only spend more money on 'Change of Course' which is not sure at all.

1afrika:
Maybe I missed the "for A1 and B2" part in ur post but I honestly doubt u said dt. We can both re-check tho .
Going by dt, are grades below B2 being treated fairly then sir?
Was same advertised so that aspirants without A1 and B2 would av used their 2.5k to eat shawarma?
Let's collectively condemn injustices instead of describing it with euphemism.
UI's scoring system is oppressing, unfair and bias.
Thanks
Peace

Peace, bro.
Check your mail.

1afrika:
I sincerely hope you understand and do the needful by modifying your post, both here and on your blog, b4 creating a false impression in some people.
Thanks.
Peace.

Sir/bro, i knew UI's 50:50 isn't a true one before typing that, what i was trying to say is that for A1 & B2, it'll still be near. Thanks anyways, i accept your opinion wholeheartedly.

solite3:
What is unilag engineering cut of mark?

what engineering?

1KINGKYLE:
you get time and strength anyway nice illustration.

That's my work. Thanks anyway. Don't forget to check out the blog.