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18:94 - 96
They said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Lo! Gog and Magog are spoiling the land. So may we pay thee tribute on condition that thou set a barrier between us and them? He said: That wherein my Lord hath established me is better (than your tribute). Do but help me with strength (of men), I will set between you and them a bank. Give me pieces of iron - till, when he had levelled up (the gap) between the cliffs, he said: Blow! - till, when he had made it a fire, he said: Bring me molten copper to pour thereon.

2:29
He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth. Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. And He is knower of all things.

2:145
And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the sacred mosque, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces (when ye pray) toward it.

2:187
The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Qur'an, a guidance for mankind, and clear proofs of the guidance, and the Criterion (of right and wrong). And whosoever of you is present, let him fast the month. And eat and drink until the white thread becometh distinct to you from the black thread of the dawn. Then strictly observe the fast till nightfall.

To explain how 4:34 can be implemented without this leading to domestic violence, the best analogy and the most relevant I have found is that of law enforcement. Throughout the world, the police have the right to strike a person who is about to break the law, for example a person who wants to set fire to a building. The police are required to sternly warn the person to stop their behavior, and if they do not, they have the right to intervene physically and subdue the person to prevent them from doing harm. The right of the police to strike any citizen they want given the appropriate circumstances establishes a certain type of order within society.

In the West, law enforcement is the job of the police; they are given the right to use violence when necessary to carry out this job. Islam creates a second law enforcement jurisdiction that is non-existent in the West, that of the family, with the power of policing given to a husband (rather than a police force) within this internal family jurisdiction

04:34
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and hit them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

22:65
Hast thou not seen how Allah hath made all that is in the earth subservient unto you? And He holdeth back the heaven from falling on the earth unless by His leave.

25:25
A day when the heaven with the clouds will be rent asunder and the angels will be sent down, a grand descent.

50.06
Have they not then observed the sky above them, how We have constructed it and beautified it, and how there are no rifts/cracks therein?

13:02
Allah it is Who raised up the heavens without visible supports.

22:65
Seest thou not how Allah sendeth down water from the sky and then the earth becometh green upon the morrow? Lo! Allah is Subtile, Aware.

Rashduct: Ultramane as well as usermane (and other atheists) are here to malign and denigrate Islam and you will not succeed. The real question is what is the closest meaning of the word "Alaq?

JeromeBlack:
I really want to ask the muslims here why there issue of atheism in islam is so controversial and deadly. If you compare this to the other major Abrahamic faiths, islam is the strictest religion when it comes to atheism and apostasy.

Israel is so secular. There are many non believing and non-practising Jews in Isreal and America. In fact, studies show that about 41 percent of Israeli people are actually openly secular.

In European countries with a christian background, many of the nationals are openly atheists. In the UK, 53% say that they have no religion and about 33% do not believe in God. This is quite similar to many European countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_Kingdom

However, when it comes to countries with sharia law or a significant majority of muslims, we see atheists being quiet and suppressed. Atheism is illegal and liable for execution in 13 islamic countries
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-religion-atheists/atheists-face-death-in-13-countries-global-discrimination-study-idUSBRE9B900G20131210


In Saudi Arabia, atheism is classified as a terrorist act according to the law
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-declares-all-atheists-are-terrorists-in-new-law-to-crack-down-on-political-dissidents-9228389.html




The point of this thread is to ask muslims on this section to explain and or justify why atheists are maltreated in such a way in muslim countries.

until, when he reached the rising of the sun, the place where it rises, he found it rising on a folk, namely, Negroes (zanj), for whom We had not provided against it, that is, [against] the sun, any [form of] cover, in the way of clothing or roofing, as their land could not support any structures; they had underground tunnels into which they would disappear at the rising of the sun and out of which they would emerge when it was at its highest point [in the sky].

18:90 -
Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom.

Until, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by it a people. We said: O Dhu-l-qarnain, either punish them or do them a benefit.

It is not meant by reaching the rising or setting of the sun that he reached its body and touched it because it runs in the sky around the earth without touching it and it is too great to enter any spring on earth. It is so much larger than earth. But it is meant that he reached the end of populated land east and west, so he found it - according to his vision - setting in a spring of a murky water like we watch it in smooth land as if it enters inside the land.

That is why He said, "he found it rising on a people for whom we had provided no covering protection against the sun." (Holy Qur'ân 18:90) and did not mean that it touches or adheres to them; but they are the first to rise on. Probably this spring is a part of the sea and the sun sets behind, with or at it, so the proposition takes the place of an adjective and God knows best

18:85-86:
And he followed a road. Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people near it.

79:27 - 29:
Are ye the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it. And He made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morn thereof.

36:40 -
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit/arcs.

21:33 -
And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit/arcs.

Sahih al-Bukhari » Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an:
Once I was with the Prophet (ﷺ) in the mosque at the time of sunset. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Abu Dharr! Do you know where the sun sets?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know best." He said, "It goes and prostrates underneath (Allah's) Throne; and that is Allah's Statement:-- 'And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (decreed). And that is the decree of All-Mighty, the All-Knowing....' (36.38)

Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Beginning of Creation:
The Prophet (ﷺ) asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All- Knowing." (36.38)

36:37-40 -
A token unto them is night. We strip it of the day, and lo! they are in darkness. And the sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him. And for the moon We have appointed mansions/phases till she return like an old shrivelled palm-leaf. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.