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Originakalokalo:
It's like we are done with the issue of worshiping him. Good.
Now, Thomas fell down on his face and said....my Lord and my GOD.
Jesus didn't say ..I am not your God.

Originakalokalo:
Ignorance.

1. 24 elders worshiped Jesus in the book of Revelation

2. When he ressurected , The disciples worshiped him.


Give your Life to Jesus.

alBHAGDADI:
You have also proven, just like the OP, that you lack knowledge concerning what you want to argue about.

You just picked one verse and used it out of context. That verse you picked spoke of the moment when Jesus was arrested.

That doesn't mean his disciples didn't later come back.

I showed you a verse where John and Mary were at the cross when Jesus died, but a deceived person like you decided to go time being deceived by picking a verse and using it out of context.

John 19:25-26

Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, "Woman, here is your son,"

alBHAGDADI:
"I'll be willing to show where Jesus said 'I am God worship me' in those exact words only if you can show me where he said 'I am only a prophet, do not worship me' in those exact same words. At that moment, he will start to realise the error of requesting for exact same words. To stamp it on him, if he's a Muslim that believes according to the Quran that Jesus was born of a virgin, then ask him to show you in the Quran or Bible where Jesus said "I am born of a virgin" in those exact same words. If he can't, then it means his belief that Jesus was born of a virgin is false.

The idea behind the above is to ensure you are not dealing with exact words. If the Jew, atheist, Muslim or heretic Christian can't show you anywhere in the Bible or Quran or any book where Jesus said these exact words "I am only a prophet, do not worship me" or "I am born of a virgin", then it means he shouldn't require of you to show him where Jesus said the exact same words "I am God worship me".

Once you have passed that, you can now ask a more reasonable question.

plainbibletruth:
Is this an OPEN FORUM or a closed one? That your last statement is childish to say the least.

If you're not ready to learn that's your cup of tea.

Others are reading the posts; I hope you know that. If you don't want to be objective others may be.

alBHAGDADI:
Na wah for you o.

You are just quoting verses anyhow. Who told you none of his disciples witnessed his death? This alone shows that one shouldn't argue with you cos you lack knowledge of what you want to argue about.

For your information, John witnessed His death, likewise his mother when he was on the cross.

John 19:26:27

When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, "Woman, here is your son,"
and to the disciple, "Here is your mother." From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.

plainbibletruth:
The verse you quoted referred to what happened at the garden of Gethsemane. This was before his trials and before he was taken to be crucified. At the crucifixion the disciples WERE THERE.

"Now some women also were watching from a distance, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the Less and of Joses, and Salome."
MARK 15:40 AMP

"And all His acquaintances and the women who had accompanied Him from Galilee were standing at a distance, watching these things."
LUKE 23:49 AMP

"So the soldiers did these things. But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, His mother’s sister [ Salome], Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene."
JOHN 19:25 AMP

An objective approach clarifies things making them PLAIN.
The same applies to your other points. You may simply have copied this from somewhere. If you took time to look well into the Bible you'd have seen that there is simply no issues like you're trying to manufacture.

shadeyinka:
So Barnabas gospel is your Injeel. The book that was given to Jesus!? Shame on you.

How old is the oldest/original Barnabas gospel?

Since you don't know history: no book of the Bible was written in Italian or Spanish.

alBHAGDADI:
I really didn't want to attend to your thread simply because you failed to address my own thread, instead you created yours.

You See, you Muslims are always confusing yourselves. First, you claim the Bible is corrupt, yet you dig your nose in it looking for scriptures.

Most of the verses you even quote in your attack of Christianity are verses that expose Islam and show how confused you Muslims are.

How can a sane person and religion adherent claim God has no Son, yet he is quick to quote verses that show Jesus talking about God being his Father?

Isn't that shooting oneself in the foot?

The Quran and Allah says God is not a Father and has no Son, yet a confused fellow like you quoted numerous verses that show Jesus calling God his Father.


"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him."
[Quran 112:1-4]


This write up of mine alone shows you don't even understand the verses you quoted and how you are destroying Islam in the process. So, I don't need to continue.

bahaushe1:
Please stop responding to people who show no sense of decency.

enilove:
What is wrong with this thing.

I am sure you a school cert failure.

Is there anywhere I said I was going to summarise my post?

You just felt like showing your stupidity to the whole world, right ?

Your posts are as senseless as b4.
Olodo .

Where did you read that a summary must be in one or two sentences.

I wonder the school you went to.

That is the way you correct your father at home even when you are blindly stupid .

enilove:
Since the Op has decided to go on strike , l want to add more to the other points a gave earlier . Though not direct statements but can but we can infer from the conversation that Jesus ,when on earth here , had power of a God :


Mark 2:5-12 KJV
When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. [6] But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, [7] Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? [8] And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? [9] Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? [10] But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) [11] I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house. [12] And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.


We can read in verse 7 that the scribes knew that it is only God that can forgive sin. If Jesus had blasphemed , he wouldn't have been granted that request by his Father in heaven.

This debate was actually why he was killed.
Just like you are reasoning that Jesus can't be God , so I was . But not again because Jesus has showed me that he is God.
It doesn't make sense to a carnal man but he is A REAL GOD.

It was Jesus God was speaking to in :

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

enilove:
I have disapproved it 5 hours ago but no response from you.

Are you intentionally avoiding your own thread for lack of answer ?

spongeisback:
See them arguing about the gods that was used to enslave them...tufiakwa for Africans.

shadeyinka:
May you receive Gods help for salvation in Jesus Name.
But please answer these questions below:
You seem to be avoiding them


Questions for you please.
1. Would you say Allah deceived the Jews and the Romans? If Yes, why do you think Allah also deceived Mary, the Disciples and all Christians?
2. Historically, someone was crucified as Jesus Christ. The Bible says that the Person was Jesus but Islam says it was someone else. Can you please tell us the identity of the person?
3. This person on the cross spoke to Mary (His Mother) and John (His Disciple). He actually called Mary "Mother" and handed Mary over to John. If it wasn't Jesus, who was he?
4. The disciples of Jesus saw Jesus after the resurrection and because of that, they were not Afraid any more. Who did they see after resurrection (or did Allah complete their deception by showing them another Jesus?
5. The disciples numbering up to 500 saw Jesus being taken up to heaven in their presence. Islam agree he was taken to heaven but can you please tell us one witness of this assertion?
6. All the disciples except John died violent deaths (eg. Peter was crucified up side down). Why do you think the disciples were willing to die gruesome deaths over what doesn't exist.
7. And Jesus didn't tell any of His disciples that someone else who looked like Him would be crucified in His stead: Why?
8. Why would the disciples lie about Jesus crucification? What do they stand to gain (forget about the drawings you see, a person is crucified stark naked in the public square)
9. Jesus told his disciples about his death and resurrection well before hand. Why would someone now replace Him and He didn't even tell any of His disciples.
10. A better story for Christians should have been: "Shame on You Jews and Romans. You wanted to kill Jesus, but God took Him away...you crucified a dummy". Why didn't Christians go through that escape route.
11. Why did it take almost 600 years after the event that Allah now have to correct an error he himself produced and proper gated?
12. Could it be that Mary and John were part of the conspiracy with Allah? Did they come to the cross to witness " the salvation of allah"?
13. What was the sin of the man who replaced Jesus on the cross? Or was he an innocent bystander?
14. For one to up-turn an earlier history, don't you think that your evidence should be overwhelming? In this case, which of the two evidences are overwhelming?


They are simple for People of Truth and Light

coolestchris:
welcome

shadeyinka:
Was that you I just saw?

iamgenius:
If they can't refute my claims above, don't reply or mention them again please. I know they will result into insults about the Prophet(peace be upon him)

zionmade1:
Sorry am more interested in discussing the life of Mohammad. Afterall his life should be worth discussing till eternity since he is the perfect being


















that was an expert in acquiring widows

analice107:
Who killed Muhammad? Poisoned goat meat or allah?

zionmade1:
I didn't see Age limit for sexual consent or would u be innocent if u have sex with a 9yr old in delaware?
Having sex with a kid of 9yr old makes u a paedophile, and its taken as having sex with a minor. U think if mohammed was from America he wont be arrested for defiling a minor. And i still ask which normal human would get a hard on seeing a 9yr old kid without any sexually appealing feature.

I need to know the exact name of the demon that possessed ur propht, the demon must a psychologically wicked

zionmade1:
So at wat age did mohammd start thighing aisha?
And at the age of 9 wat was she doing to the little kid

analice107:
When I'm ready for you, you'd run like always. Gerarahia.

policy12:
Religion the opium's of the masses.

analice107:
lol, yet you can't keep away from that religion. Without that religion you'd be dead.

zionmade1:
So she was adolescent at 9 abi?
Wat was Mohammed doing to her at 6 if not to insert his stick in between her laps and ejaculate on her thighs. lets talk about mohammd's sanity, which sane man will get aroused at the sight of a naked 6 yr old kid, who should still be urinating on her pants

OtemAtum:
iffa hear Murhamid/Moh Ahmad raped Aisatu in her first life and also in her reincarnation. The DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH confirms this:

zionmade1:
how about we talking about how good (wickedly good) mohammd felt the first time he misvirgined an innocent 9yr kid who he should be buying biscuits and sweets for rather than destroying her life with his short prick.
ewu gambia

annyplenty:
Escape for your soul. the wrath of God is coming upon the earth.

Luke 21:36
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.