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toluFernandez:
Hello, please i need help with confirming an item, the agent told me to submit a hand written letter of intoduction and its very surprising for me that i have to handwrite, although i dont want them to say its because i didnt write thats why my visa was not approved. ANyone with pointers would really help

That's was the requirement at some point, not sure they still ask to do it but it's nothing unusual

It appears it doesn't matter if you have genuine documents or enough proof of funds these days, Nigerians are getting denied. I suspect they believe we don't have genuine tourism intentions and I blame all these social media buzz, ads and influencers. They can see all these birth tourism contents on TikTok etc . That is why people with confirmed intentions like study are getting approved regardless. Similar situation with the UK japa buzz.

oloyemeji:
I will like to know how to go about the PG, if i can do masters with PGD and when to enroll i know it is competitive, i don't mind paying school fees.

For Public Schools, each Faculty/Department handle their enrollment and the time varies. Each year they release a publication called "Selective process" (it's in Portuguese but you can translate the document) which will detail the admission procedure and timeline for the year. What I'd do is find my department in a number of schools and check their Selective process for the previous year to help me prepare for this year's and I'll keep an eye out for when they'll release the one for this year so I can enroll.

Top choices:

University of São Paulo
Universo of Campinas
Federal University of São Paulo

There are private schools too but they are expensive and you have to prove that you can pay for the whole program year. Visa is not guaranteed but it's almost guaranteed for Public schools because they are free.

Private School: FGV

There is also a program called GCUB, you can keep an eye on their Instagram page to know when they'll start for this year. The downside is you may end up in a school deep inside Brazil (the interiors) and I heard you have to leave the country after the program. I don't know how true.

oloyemeji:
Does anyone know about Portuguese language courses in Brazil? Can you attend with a dependent, and is it worthwhile to enroll? Also, what’s the pathway to permanent residency?

There are Portuguese language courses that help you get study visa but the possibility of getting a study visa with one is very low. You can come on a tourist visa and switch to a study permit with a Portuguese language course but it's usually for a maximum of 1 year.

The best option would be to a do postgraduate program that will allow you stay for a longer period. They are free also.

Other pathways include childbirth, stable Union, marriage.

Peterson11321:
Pls niaralanders.im leaving for Brazil soon. Where in Brazil can I find Nigerians. So I can book for air BNB accommodations around.

Thank

Nigerians are plenty in Zona Leste ( Itaquera, Tatuape , Mocca etc) or Centro.

Book with Airbnb or Bookings.com. Don't ask anyone to book for you if you don't want drama.

KaylaO:
Good afternoon house.

Does anyone have any idea about Digital Nomad visa? I’m thinking of applying for it as I work remotely with US companies. Please any information will be greatly appreciated.

Don't bother, they don't process it for Nigerians. You can come on a tourist visa and switch to a study visa (with a Portuguese language course) or you may give the Digital Nomad visa a shot when you get here. You can weigh your options then but I've heard the process is long and frustrating and even for other nationalities.

P.S: Brazil is a great country to live if you work remotely and earn USD.

niyyie:
Congratulations!

The first choice should be for your Nigerian Police Clearance Certificate and your (with spouse)'s birth certificates to be certified by the Brazilian Consulate in Lagos AFTER the Federal Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Abuja has authenticated them.

If the above is impossible for you, you can have the Embassy of Nigeria in Brasilia certify your Police Clearance and Birth Certificates AFTER the Federal Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Abuja has authenticated them.

Have you secured your new baby's Brazilian birth certificate?

reliablevisi Please go for the second option here, it's the easiest.

Biggestbirds08:
morning my bro, the offer still stand?

Yes please. Single person

belovedmimz:
Most of what you're asking here, you can do on your own by some indepth research (visa processing+success rate); decisions such as these should be made solely by you. Here's some help still.

All three countries follow jus soli (ie, giving the baby citizenship when born on their soil), but they have a few differences between them (this is from personal research please. You can do some more on your own):

For Chile, you have to be a resident there FIRST (trp or PR) for your child to enjoy the jus soli benefit. NOT TOURIST VISA, whereas for the other two countries, one can use just a tourist or visit visa. Now, this doesn't mean your baby can't be a citizen of Chile, it just means it won't be automatic (for both Brazil and Mexico, it's automatic, doesn't matter how the parent entered the country)

Chile has arguably the best healthcare in South America (top notch!). It's affordable but not totally free...I understand it's not free in Mexico either but totally free in Brazil.

As you should know, Chile and Mexico speak Spanish while Brazil speaks Portuguese; in case one has to learn, Spanish is easier (no question 🤣). So there's more of a language barrier in Brazil than the other two places.

As for citizenship for family, Brazil and Mexico give PR as soon as baby is born and you apply (you use your baby as an anchor) - then get citizenship after some time of fulfilling requirements (a year or two) and applying.
Chile is almost the same...but if you're on trp, you'll get PR then apply for citizenship but time duration is almost same.

Chile's passport is the strongest amongst the three...they have mostly the same visa-free and visa-on-arrival countries, with Mexico having that TN arrangement thing with the US but Chile's passport has e-visa to both US and Canada (100% guaranteed entry).

I'm assuming you're applying from Nigeria...you can do so for Mexico and Brazil but for Chile, you have to go to Ghana or find a registered travel agency here to do it for you (I never advise this sha).

...so, I think I've covered most of it🙂 since you're thinking South America, you should check out Argentina as well - it has the fastest citizenship route in the world. After birth, no need for PR, apply for citizenship straight...but of course, you consider other factors as well. Other South American countries aren't bad either.

If I were to choose, Chile is the best no doubt. But you have to consider many other things to make that choice. That you're considering giving your family this gift (dual citizenship) is the best🙂 but anything worth doing, is worth doing well. Make proper research, follow people's stories in all these countries, reach out to them if possible then decide. Wish you the very best!!!

This is so detailed and apt, well done. I want to point out that in reality, Chilean citizenship/Passport procedure is very difficult and takes a very long time for the parents due to bureaucracy. It seems deliberate since their passport is very strong and I guess they don't want everyone to have easy access to it.

I also did a little comparison between São Paulo and Santiago earlier this year, cost of living and accommodation is higher in Santiago, and integration is much more difficult over there especially if you're a person of color.

I visited Chile for a few days, it's a very beautiful country and the people are nice but not as much as Brazilians.

MsKay04:
Hello from Sao Paulo

I've been here for a few days, and the weather is COLD. I guess I'll get used to it.

I got an airbnb but still on the look out for a decent accommodation (couldn't get a place for less than 3,600 Reais).

Brazil is a lovely place; at least the few places I have been to since my arrival.

I have an accommodation offer. It's close to Zonal Oeste(Zonal West). It's a two bedroom with a Nigerian lady occupying 1 room and she'll be leaving for Nigeria soon. please let me know if you're interested so I can send you more details.

DadKorex:
so like this a tech dude, with 3m naira can i apply and if yes which private schools?

I provided the links to their website. You can check them out.

Favbolu:
How much ,What is the learning mode?

Online, free class

oluomoadeb:
I'm interested in this. How much is he charging?

It's a free class

If you don't mind a private University, there are really good schools for different types of MBA programs. They are also taught in English.

The truth is that they are very expensive but they offer payment in installments as much as 24 months. They also have exchange programs which allow you to visit different countries around the world during your course.

If you have the skills, you can do remote North American and European jobs to fund your studies. Classes are very flexible too. I don't work for them but I have a friend that pulled this off this way 👆🏾

https://www.fiap.com.br/mba
https://eaesp.fgv.br/

Karleb:
Amen o! 🙏

The scholarship is my 1/3 anti-APC anti-Tinibu plan.

The second one is apply directly to schools directly because, like I said earlier, they do not owe my papa a scholarship be we can hope for the best.

The 3rd is already taking shape too.

I have been learning portugese since last year August but I must confess, portuges is a hard language. Their verbs has too many forms and the word arrangement can be confusing.

Send a DM if you'd like to join an online português class, teacher is Brazilian and he speaks English.

Deemamadee:
You will.get it
Just widen your options
Mine didn't come easy too
I got two rejections
The.first school I applied to, I passed the entrance exam,.it was five of us that passed when it was time for interview they sent a mail that the interview will be conducted in Portuguese, i was discouraged but i still joined by the way, they didn't interview me , they only advised that i should go and learn the language and reapply next year, it was devastating. The second school too was another story before I now got this one.
So the summary is intentionality.
All the best to you

Congratulations, God was preparing USP for you. It's the best out option out of all the schools. Try and apply for bolsa(grant) too if you haven't. It will help you a lot.

ManlikeDavies:
Hello guys, thank you all for all the insightful comments on this thread. They have been tremendously helpful.
My wife is just 7 weeks pregnant and we are looking forward to giving birth either in Brazil or in Mexico. We are currently living in the UK. Which takes me to my questions.

1. Has anyone applied for the Brazilian visa from the UK?

2. Do have to contact a Brazilian lawyer to assist with the visa application and advice? I would like to know where to start from.

The plan is to get her a visa first, then later on I will begin my own application.
I need help and advice on this please. Thank you guys.

You can apply yourself. I have a friend that applied from the UK, I can ask him if he's willing to put you through.

Don't use a lawyer even when you get to Brazil, they just complicate things.

otknye:
Hi Untamed,

How are you? Do you have an idea of the fee's private obstetrician charges especially Dr Marcelo Santos at the sao luiz star hospital? Thank you for your contribution we are here in brazil.

He used to charge 3k reas back then, i don't know his current charges. You can reach out to him directly

TLD20:
I have been trying but to no avail. You won't even find how or where to apply on their website. Please drop the name of the girl on tik tok or if you know how to apply, kindly let me know. Thanks

Her TikTok is eniadeolami

I think you guys should try and apply directly to schools too. International students are not limited to GCUB grants. You also have access to other grants. There's a girl on TikTok that talks about it. She's in a program here and didn't get in through GCUB.

daddy111:
@untamedd Your responses are very helpful. I’m confused and need someone to help. My wife is due in October and I have not applied for the Brazil visa yet. Her pregnancy is obvious and I would like to know if that is not a problem. For US, we declared childbirth as our purpose of travel, showed doctor’s correspondence and Payment receipts and we were granted visa (2017). Does this apply to Brazil? Is it 100% certain that we will be called for interview. Your response will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Declaring childbirth is outright refusal like someone said up there. If your wife can conceal her bump in any way, you may still give it a shot but you'd have to start your application immediately.

IderadeAratumi:
I am afraid I might need your help to refer a contact that can assist me with getting the PCC. Please.

I reached out to my contact that processed the last one for me sometime ago, unfortunately he no longer works there.

Please I'll appreciate a referral from you.

pastorswivesglobal@gmail.com

I sent the contact to your email address

IderadeAratumi:
Thanks a lot for your prompt response.

I already have the procedure for applying for baby's passport in the absence of the father clarified through various research I have made. That won't be a problem.

My question is at the point of traveling with baby alone back to Nigeria, If there would be a need for the other parent and I to process a travel authorization that will accompany the passport. Based on my research, it seems any Brazilian minor traveling with only 1 parent would have to have an authorization from the other parent who is not traveling with the child.

This is the basis of my question.

You'll only need authorization if the passport was signed for by two parents and you both chose that the child can only travel with the authorization of the other parent. Since it's just you, you won't need it.

IderadeAratumi:
Whao. Thank you so much for this exposition.

What I heard from someone is that if you use their free public health system to birth, you may not be granted visa to return. Can you confirm if everyone you knew who were not granted visa based on previous birth in the country, includes also those that used private hospital (that's the category I belong)

And Please oooo. Based on your insightful feedback, I have just 2 questions:

1. How possible is it to process my Police Character Certificate from Nigeria without being physically in Nigeria?

2. Since I am here alone, would I and the father be required to process a travel authorization for baby's passport before I can travel alone with the baby back to Nigeria.

Abeg make una come to my rescue oooo. Seems I'm getting more than I bargained for (positively anyway)

pastorswivesglobal@gmail.com is my email address

I sincerely do not think it matters if you used public or private but I may be wrong. I know people who got letters from private hospitals here or even had them contact the embassy to assure them that they wouldn't be using the public healthcare but still got denied. It may be different for a second time applicant, I'm not sure but i wouldn't risk it except you have the means to apply from another embassy which isn't Nigeria.

Yes, it's possible to get it done without being physically there. If you have the right contact they get everything done for you including foreign affairs stamp. You need to start now if you really want to do it.

Since you're here alone, naturally the baby's father's name will not be on the birth certificate and even if you have a means, don't put it on it cos it can complicate things. Since his name will not be on the birth certificate, it won't be on the passport hence you can travel alone with the baby without needing any authorization. (100% confirmed cos I did this)

If you put his name on the birth certificate, you won't even be able to do the passport because he'll need to be physically present to get the passport done.

When you all come back, you can have his name put on the birth certificate for free at the cartório and eventually the passport, this is when you both choose they type of travel authorization the passport will have.

Obinnau:
eh even as a mother of a Brazilian, they can decide to deny one a visa?

Yes sir, they don't care.

IderadeAratumi:
Thanks to everyone who took time to answer my questions.

I arrived last week, and everything is going on fine as planned. Although I didn't plan to apply for my PR this time around. I am here alone so I intend to travel back 3 weeks after delivery and for my family and I to return here sometime next year for the PR processing. This trip is just to birth my baby and collect the passport.

Thanks to you all for your insight.

Like someone rightly said, 3 weeks may not be enough. You need to be fast about it. You can get your birth certificate once you're out of the hospital and apply for RG and Passport immediately. They both can take at least 2 weeks to come out but you can't rule out delays.

That being said, getting a visa from Nigeria to come back to Brazil after you have given birth is almost impossible (maybe it's possible sha) but i don't know anyone who has done it successfully. I know people who were refused based on that. They check and know you came to birth and choose not to grant it. The best thing you can do is apply for your PR, the rest of your family can apply for theirs later without mentioning you in their application.

You can submit your PR application once baby's RG is out, do a power of attorney for a friend or lawyer here to get it for you and send to Nigeria once it's done.

kendraloops:
Hmm, I doubt that I'll be done with my thesis by then and even if I'm done by some miracle, the certificate and all won't be ready. You know how unnecessarily complicated these things can be in naija varsities. Don't want to be stranded when they ask for proof of Masters degree.

There are direct Phd programs that don't require Masters

IderadeAratumi:
and any other person, please i need some answers

Please what documents do I need to process my baby's birth certificate after delivery? Is it true I'll need to have a CPF number? how can I get this in Brazil?

I am thinking of applying for baby's passport through the consulate after I return back to Nigeria. Can I travel back to Nigeria using the birth certificate as a travel document for the baby, or birth certificate wont be accepted in lieu of passport. What documents do I need to apply for baby's passport.

Thanks a lot for your insight

You need to have a CPF to do anything in Brazil. It's the first thing u need to register. It's done online and you can also do it at the recital federal. Check for the recital federal office near you.

After you give birth, you'll be given a yellow paper at the hospital which you'll take to the Cartorio to get the birth certificate. You also need to apply for baby's RG and Brazilian Passport.

To go back to Nigeria, you need either Visa, Nigerian passport or Electronic Travel Authorization for your baby. The visa is on arrival for Brazilian passport holders like your baby. To get more information on how to get Nigerian passport or ETC, contact the Nigerian embassy. Their number is on Google. Also note that to get Nigerian passport, you need to physically be in Brasilia. ETC can be done and sent to you.

oluomoadebayo:
How about the certification of other documents like birth and wedding certificates?

Not necessary

oluomoadebayo:
How about certification from the Foreign Affairs Commission in Nigeria or just take it to Brazil directly from the police?

When we do Police character, they usually do the certification with it. I recently had one done at Alagbon and it came with the certification. Paid 70k. I assume it's like that for everyone?

Obinnau:
Are you talking about this Mr Ifeanyi?

Yes, he's the one. Same address and phone number

Obinnau:
thank you so much! This so good to hear. Can you give guidelines on how to contact the embassy or how to sent the documents to them? What is the name of the NGO?

This is the NGO