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komekn:
Firstly, Chukwueze is not the central issue here, but the never ending allegations from presumption, conclusions from assumption and conjecture to make deduction. But they are birthed at least here from self perception. Nobody knows the hearts construction and only God knows the heart of a man.

I often use longer descriptive words and repeatative differing diction, to make matters clear and unambiguous.

I find in my engagements a need to pay attention to detail, not rely on assumption and enshrine clarity otherwise I will have contention. But it seems people read what's in thier mind and not what's written.

I am disappointed with you. Because most times you are objective and substantive in your approach.

I have said maybe twenty times. I have not formed any opinion on Chukwueze. Once again l watched one match and IMO he was not impressive. That's not my sum total of him as a player. I have read his statistics, he has played two games in La Liga with a number of cup games with two goals so far. IMO it's way too early to make projections as to being HUGE TALENT. Otherwise my opinion is that he has a GREAT ATTITUDE is Diligent and disciplined and has very good potential and exceptional talent.

But please look at the bolded, when did I form an all encompassing opinion based on one game ❓ ❓ that in my view would be silly.

I do not hinge my opinion on another person opinion l may consider it but will not under pin my opinion. Because so so said so. I'm sorry that's not me.

I talk to a lot of people in football high and low and they all have different opinions on the same thing.

I gave you an assessment framework using Ssegnon as an example. The boy had played near 100 professional games and he is only 18 and he has been consistently outstanding with top notch MOTM performances. This is his third season of competitive first team football but now in EPL.

Add to that possibly first time in the history of the PFA a Championship players was voted Best young player of the season. The accolades are too numerous to mention first player born in the 2000' s to score in the EPL. This 18 year old is now essentially a seasoned professional. I mean his goal tally and assists last season were phenomenal for a LB. Statistically speaking he was the best, it's not an opinion but a matter of fact.

You are asking me to compare him to Chukwueze who has just started playing first team football. Do you really think that's a fair and balanced approach. How do you compare them. If you wanted to measures and be objective and tried to implement a balance score card assessment it would fail as incomparable.

Guillem is a person I don't rate his opinion as substantive fact or having overriding weight. I have watched Gary Neville make many howlers and get it very wrong many times. All pundits have knowledge but they are not the final word.

Have you noticed l hardly ever refer to pundits to underpin my view. What you may not know is that some of my views come from Managers, coaches and agents, etc.

Once again the issue is not necessarily Chukwueze bit how we make a deduction that a player has outstanding exceptional ability, potential and talent.

I possibly use the term sparingly and many use it anytime a players does a rainbow flick in a match or plays a first team game.

Finally, l go to Anfield quite often but not as often as l could do. So next time your going, watch out l could be sitting next to you. Lol

Am not trying to rejoin because I have lost the passion as regards to this particular argument- not downplaying sessegnon's abilities also But I must add that most of his goals comes when he plays as a winger not LB

EEGA:
The LW is for Musa.

And if he get injured?

Clementoke:
Akpoguma should be left alone IMO. He has been approached but is still keeping his "options open" waiting for Germany. The question is when will come to his senses?

When he clocks 30 something

Clementoke:
4-1-5

Lol... 4-1-4-1


4-2-3-1,,,, Nacho played deeper

forgiveness:
Because I stayed off Nigeria football small. I no wan die now.


I don't see what Ogu brings to the team. He should be sent parking.

Atleast he filled CB today

forgiveness:
Thanks.

Like Eze(Cmf), Abdul (Amf), Agu(DMF), Kayode (Striker).

These players should be given more minutes to prove themselves. We saw what Agu did today.


Ogu should be sent parking. Onazi must be returned.

Eze's time will surely come if he indeed wanna represent

Abdul ; I presume that he is not in great form otherwise, you must be posting news about him

Agu; This is his best game since he came into the fold

Kayode; hasn't been so great

Onazi? He's still in GWG though he.....

Ogu to retirement? why?



All in all, this is our best legs save for foreign borns who are scared to say their mind

Is Ikpeba the best we can offer?

I 'do choose Donald Kimich over him

isan:
I hope we avoid Dr Congo and Uganda in afcon they too physical

Most times, physicality doesn't win trophies

forgiveness:
When Rohr is ready to use the right personals, make I hear.

Right personnel(s) like?

TheSuperNerd:
Mikel Agu is a quality DM option. I think I will pick him over Onazi right now. Against a solid African opposition like Uganda, Agu stood tall. He may gatecrash the Final 23 if he finishes strong this season.

Honestly, with Onazi away, I think we are covered in Agu but again we need to move in for Philip Billing soon.

Seconded,,,, he surprised me ah swear!

safarigirl:
there is still room for improvement and some players are missing.

I can't wait for Ebuehi to recover. I've seriously missed his presence in the team, to be honest.

Yeap,,, though they shut us out, the performance is better than that of SA even with our fringe players....

safarigirl:
thr pitch is trash....you can't really play lie balks with it

The commentator should go and rewatch this match, then assess his own woeful commentary that is competing with the pitch for "Embarrassment of the Day"

Lol,,, they did played some useless long balls knowing fully well that our ST is shorter than those defenders. Nice outing altogether

Mickael2:
Like seriously why am I hearing 'give am card'

I think say na only me hear am

This man called Rohr has sworn not start Henry.

Off topic

Spain approach Morocco for a joint 2030 World Cup bid together with Portugal

TheSuperNerd:
But the wayo fella indeed agrees that Komekn was being mishievous. You can look up and see just in case you are lost again. Not everyone want to take the bold part like Jesus did in calling a bunch of pretending gentlemen-like pharisees brood of Vipers naa.

Me, I just said it as it is. Finito.

And I don't prefer the home-grown over the foreign borns... That is a nonsense deduction to make. See what I have been saying? You really are lost on this thread. Na wa... Are you even reading at all?

I am for the best talents that will take our Super Eagles forward be you Foreign born, Home-grown or from Mars... Everyone here knows that. So stop trying to say what is not.

You are thickheaded. You don't wanna accept being at fault.... Whatever rocks your boat. This issue Don tire me Jare!

wayodude:
I actually prefer wayoman to wayodude lol make i change am? lol

Lol,,, creating new acct? No

Am even regretting why I deactived my account.

Just leave am like that but.... wayoman sweet pass for mouth sha

TheSuperNerd:
Ohhh nooo not even implying that... But being a founding member and major contributor who follows the events of this thread gives me enough nous to know that you are not versed about most events that take place on this thread.

And also Komekn deserved whatever he got because he is a snake and a bonafide hater of anything Home-grown Naija talent. Icon4s knows this... TheGoodJoe knows this... So many elders here know this and some have Even engaged him before about it but he persists in it. Even when Wayodude answered his ridiculing question on Chukwueze with a Spanish football expert's view, what did Komekn do? He started saying that Wayodude doesn't have his own opinion.

I am pretty sure if the Wayodude fella (sorry for the few mentions man) had given just his own opinion, the tune of Komekn will be that he is no expert and thus he cannot just take his words for it but needs the views of top rated bodies or journals. Wayo gave him that but he evaded it so mischievously.

But wayoman didn't insult him, did he?

All am saying is that insult is not the best solution. You are just like komek.n, you prefer the home-grown especially those that passed through u-17 while he prefers those born within queens territory. This issue is stretching longer than it should. Just try to select your words carefully.... Udo dịrị gi

TheSuperNerd:
Well, to me the events of the thread still look lost on you. I am in very good position to say that as one of the old and founding members here. Merci.

Well, being a founding member gives you no guarantee to insult him,,, we ain't dragging who first come

TheSuperNerd:
You cannot equate Chriskels to Komekn ever.... We all know Chriskels here. We know his stand and what his words are about. He may have the most personal axe to grind with Rohr but we know he is GWG through and through. He may label some of our midfielders as Carpenters but that is because he wants upgrades and to see the team become world class just as I also want.

Was it not same Chriskels who was defending the stats of Mikel Agu the other day? A player who I know is among the carpenter crew? Plsss plsss and plsss... There is no correlation at all at all between Chriskels and Komekn. Haba!

Komekn will talk down on every department of the team and mischievously play down the talents of every rising indigenous born Naija lad.
But Chriskels... He will never do that. Chriskels even gives us updates on Foreign born Naija lads like Lookman and Sheyi Ojo and more. Just as I give updates occasionally on Noah Okafor and some others... We are only after killing the bias against the Indigenous born lads because I, Chriskels and some others stand for both the foreign borns and Indigenous borns.

This is why no one can come out to say Chriskels is a hater of Home-grown Talents. See? So your point does not add up at all.

And if truly you are no newbie here and claim to know so much about komekn, and all you can is he has a different view then I can only laugh and say, well done. Well done because obviously, the events of this thread from times past till now are lost on you. Lol...

Oga I just gave an example and yes, I AM NOT A NEWBIE on this thread!

Attack his point and not his person, mutual respect is needed for this to continue growing

TheSuperNerd:
Not every thing is simple and not even every simplicity is understood. The history of komekn's attacks in every form on the Indigenous lads is well documented here by we, the regular and long term members of the thread.... So the stuff is not as simple as you think it is. Bye.

Am not a newbie on this thread so I know much about Kom.ekn, he has different view, that said.

And yes it is simple to jump and pass if you can't counter his comments without insults. You don't need to follow that route bro!

What if he (Kome.kn) were to be someone who refers Ogu, etebo and agu as carpenters just like Oga kriskels does, am sure many will say it's because he hates home grown kids. Just chill down, we are here on one mission - to support Eagles

Chees

TheSuperNerd:
Is it that you too just wanna act oblivious to the sarcastic ridicule in komekn's comments on Pavarotti's post or you just want my attention? Okay, let me indulge you for a bit... Just a bit...



First off, the Pavarotti post read "Nigerian fans cannot wait to see new Villarreal wonderkid, Samuel Chukwueze...."

And immediately Komekn jumped in and said the following below your comment as seen.


Now look at the bolded carefully with the knowledge of how he always talk down on Naija talents that have indigenous roots.

1st case is on "overhype route" he mentioned:

Now I ask, where is the silly over hype route in terming Samuel a Villarreal Wonderkid seeing that La Liga have also termed him one of the best highly rated Youngsters in Spain? Or does Komekn not read the news? Is he not on this thread? Some folks shared the pic and information of la liga naming Chukwueze among its top finest youngsters who has impressed so far in la Liga... It has been here for days Or you want to tell me that Komekn suddenly became blind to those posts? Is he that restricted in information? Maybe he needs a better wifi connection perhaps to enable him view more pages without worry of data? Or maybe it is sight problem? Ah well... But I just don't understand why the simple referral to Samuel Chukwueze as a Villarreal Wonderkid made him ask such preposterous questions all in a bid to ridicule the lad... (Okay, I am lying here. I actually understand. It is because Samuel is not an English-born. Komekn that will defend a wastepipe player in Solanke because he is a borough boy but be questioning the talents of a la liga recognised super talent... Hmmm... The man really do not know talent if you ask me).



2nd case: Moving on to the next line of comments, he asked, "how many games have this "Wonderkid" played at Villarreal?

Now tell me, did he ask such a question to know or he asked it to ridicule? Do you think we have Dumbos here? Maybe some of you wanna act dumb but not me and certainly not some of us here who read the sarcastically styled ridicule in his silly question. Why did he have to even use "wonder kid" in such a sarcastic and subtly shameful manner? The sarcasm in his comment could not be hidden and you are here trying to defend him saying he asked only a simple question. Well, it only shows that it is not all of us that can read ridiculing sarcasm.

Oga forget about long epistle, it's a simple stuff!


If you think his comment is ridiculous or sarcastic, reply him in ridiculous or sarcastic manner as the case may be, no need for little insults.

Concerning your first paragraph, if you must know, your input is needed here as well as that of other monikers. If you think that am looking for your 'attention' specifically-- well, I don't! because it neither adds important value to my person nor $$$ to my account.

Michael Obafemi makes Ireland debut as Nigeria, England miss out


The 18-year-old came on for his maiden international appearance with the Boys in Green, thus, bringing an end to speculations about his future


Michael Obafemi made his international debut for Ireland, with Nigeria and England missing in the race to have the Southampton teenager in any of their set-ups.
Having earned his maiden call-up on the back of impressive progress with the Saints in the Premier League, the 18-year-old was touted to make his bow for Martin O’Neill’s men in last Thursday’s friendly draw against Northern Ireland but saw the entire duration of the tie on the bench.
In a move to put an end to speculations over his international future, Obafemi came on as a 8 0th-minute substitute in the goalless stalemate against Denmark in Monday’s Uefa Nations League closer.


80: Michael Obafemi is on for his international debut! � �� #COYBIG pic.twitter.com/x26K8jegT7

— FAIreland ⚽️�� (@FAIreland) November 19, 2018

With the competitive nature of the game, he will no longer be available for call-ups to the Super Eagles or Three Lions’ set-up.
�� #COYBIG pic.twitter.com/ZeivHN1NU0 — FAIreland ⚽️�� (@FAIreland) November 19, 2018

Also, he became the first player born in this century to make his senior debut for Ireland

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/michael-obafemi-makes-ireland-debut-as-nigeria-england-miss/ogegwae9ydws1faond5hxm6if

TheSuperNerd:
It begs the question of whether we are better off without Moses or not.

With Moses we will have a true Big gun who is feared across the continent coz of his reputation in England built over the years... Buuutttt... The likes of Kalu, Onyekuru and Samu may not get their chances.

Without Moses, we will see more of the rise and rise and rise of Onyekuru, Kalu and Samu and even more of Moses Simon perhaps. But they are not yet big established professionals like Victor Moses as their growth and evolution is still on.

Well... Such is life sometimes.

We don't really need Vicmo. He should remain retired

edi287:
That's the point I'm trying to make. You have more in depth knowledge of the English system and our players in it hence you can talk more about it than other leagues.
You would know more about a Sheyi Ojo or an Ovie Ejaria in the youth system than a Samuel Chukwueze in the LA Liga.

That's why he asked question....

TheSuperNerd:
Nope... Objection. I have only stood my ground against rubbish talking against our home grown youngsters. But all you do is come in here and ignore all other posts to have a hit on me.... Listen Captain... I don't give a hoot. I know what I am doing is right. I am not here for your accolades. Merci.

Komekn asked a question, a question that deserves an answer but you chose another route. It would have been better if you 'jump and pass' instead of attacking his person. Tone down your emotion abeg

komekn:
That's why l asked the question I really don't know. Watched him against a lowly rated Glasgow Rangers and he was just OK but that's only one game.

It's simplistic what makes him so wonderful? How many La Liga games has he played and possibly goals scored.

You cannot make your deduction using one game. He has been good since his game with the senior team. Judging by the last few games, he's in first 11

komekn:
Just to bring some context and prevent us going down the over hype route again.

Does anybody know how many games this Wonder Kid has played for the first team at Villareal❓❓

What makes him so wonderful in the context of world football not local.

Not a hype, the lad is just having his first real moment of publicity. The question of 'if' is still hanging on balance. It is not just Nigeria or Rohr, it is universal something, you get?

I can give you 100's surging wonderkids that are enjoying this privilege just as Samuel. It might interest you to know that Timothy weah has more national appearance than his league outings. Ben Woodburn of Liverpool nko? What of your dear Sancho who has not played up to 30 league matches but has played for England? I can go on till day break.

Just chill down, let the boy enjoy his moment.

oloyolo:
19 although am broke asf right now, am 23.

mine was multiple millions I made it from bitcoin, software and domain names.

one guy from nairaland here introduced me to bitcoin back then (for free ) he was giving one eBook like that.

I learned a few thing from his book,but being the mad man that I was, I discovered a way to tipple my result and boom I was raking in bitcoin like craze.

then I hooked up with this Chinese girl on Facebook we started swaping ideas before you know it I had about 20 bitcoin. at then one bitcoin was about 200$ then some crazy sh** happend bitcoin went from 200$ to about 1000$.

I cashed out. dude, I was fucking rich. but as you already know 19years and millions are not a healthy combination.

I basically thought I was the next bill gate. it funny how success leads to success then to more success, then to a huge failure. me and my best friends, we were living lavish.

again some one from this same nairaland sold an eBook about domain name buying and selling to me.

I started trying to buy domain name, but wasn't making much (like 500$ per month) 500$ didn't mean much to me back then.

then I stumbled upon this white guy, he was also a domain name trader, he was teaching people how to buy and sell domain and software on flippa. although his course was expensive about 800$ I bought it, then I also bought a 1000$ course on digital marketing. after the taking those courses I lunched out on my own, I bought a bunch of domain names and about 4 softwares.

most of the domain name didn't sell well some didn't sell atall but 3 sold for a wopping some of 15000$ combined.

it is funny how lots of people say money can't change them I was one of those guys. but trust me after this second win, I was sure I was going to be up there with mark zuckarburg some day.

then something crazy happened, one of my 4 software gained like 3million active users. turned out the original owner of the software was from isereal, and his research was on point, isreali market really needed the software, but the guy was marketing and trying to monitize it the wrong way.

by accident I got it just right the software began marketing it self and before you know it a giant iseareli company asked me to sell it to them.

being young and dumb I didn't know how to monitize it so when I saw who was willing to pay, bam I sold it. I made a mistake though, I should have let them name a price or at least named an unrealistic price but silly me I asked for what I thought was a fair price 100000$.

they did what every good business men would do they bargained for a lower price 70k$.

I agreed bam this time even GOD couldn't stop me I was mega rich.

but like what my mentors always say when there is to much supply of money, it begins to flow to unnecessary places. I blew all the money, although most were on other ventures that later failed.

yea I spent good money on lavish lifestyle , but I wasn't that stupid, most of my money actually went into other businesses and investment but I was young and stupid so I paid for it .

I walked away with lot of experiential knowledge. at this point in my life I am trying to gain momentum again and GOD know that when I do, I'm never stopping, I'm not saying I have learned everything there is to learn, I'm saying that i have learned to do less stupid things than most people and I still think am going to be up there with the big boys although I don't want to be famous like them I don't want to be on any list.

Can you mentor me bro in any of them? I'do be very glad

kehindetokode:
I've patiently followed this tread and I must say this is one of the most interesting and inspiring tread on Nairaland.

I almost made my first million at the age of 28 through series of businesses, such as excellent website development, consulting for enterprise developer and running a clothing line.

My finance nose dive base on sheer stupidity in disguise as generosity. I was trying to make money so I can be a blessing to the people around me and help young folks like me establish themselves early in life.

I invested into a wrong dude who lack basic understanding of integrity and in no time my money was history. I also invested into cryptocutrency and the January 2018 bearish flow hit me hard.

But as a soldier I'll keep pressing and in no time I'm bouncing back by leveraging on my skills and knowledge.

I'm currently working on an agro-project that specialises in convertion of cassava Peel/waste into healthy livestock feed, this will make me a billionaire in 5-10 years time. Interested partners or investors can contact me at zoeinnovationxatgmaildotcom

M interested

oloyolo:
19 although am broke asf right now, am 23.

mine was multiple millions I made it from bitcoin, software and domain names.

one guy from nairaland here introduced me to bitcoin back then (for free ) he was giving one eBook like that.

I learned a few thing from his book,but being the mad man that I was, I discovered a way to tipple my result and boom I was raking in bitcoin like craze.

then I hooked up with this Chinese girl on Facebook we started swaping ideas before you know it I had about 20 bitcoin. at then one bitcoin was about 200$ then some crazy sh** happend bitcoin went from 200$ to about 1000$.

I cashed out. dude, I was fucking rich. but as you already know 19years and millions are not a healthy combination.

I basically thought I was the next bill gate. it funny how success leads to success then to more success, then to a huge failure. me and my best friends, we were living lavish.

again some one from this same nairaland sold an eBook about domain name buying and selling to me.

I started trying to buy domain name, but wasn't making much (like 500$ per month) 500$ didn't mean much to me back then.

then I stumbled upon this white guy, he was also a domain name trader, he was teaching people how to buy and sell domain and software on flippa. although his course was expensive about 800$ I bought it, then I also bought a 1000$ course on digital marketing. after the taking those courses I lunched out on my own, I bought a bunch of domain names and about 4 softwares.

most of the domain name didn't sell well some didn't sell atall but 3 sold for a wopping some of 15000$ combined.

it is funny how lots of people say money can't change them I was one of those guys. but trust me after this second win, I was sure I was going to be up there with mark zuckarburg some day.

then something crazy happened, one of my 4 software gained like 3million active users. turned out the original owner of the software was from isereal, and his research was on point, isreali market really needed the software, but the guy was marketing and trying to monitize it the wrong way.

by accident I got it just right the software began marketing it self and before you know it a giant iseareli company asked me to sell it to them.

being young and dumb I didn't know how to monitize it so when I saw who was willing to pay, bam I sold it. I made a mistake though, I should have let them name a price or at least named an unrealistic price but silly me I asked for what I thought was a fair price 100000$.

they did what every good business men would do they bargained for a lower price 70k$.

I agreed bam this time even GOD couldn't stop me I was mega rich.

but like what my mentors always say when there is to much supply of money, it begins to flow to unnecessary places. I blew all the money, although most were on other ventures that later failed.

yea I spent good money on lavish lifestyle , but I wasn't that stupid, most of my money actually went into other businesses and investment but I was young and stupid so I paid for it .

I walked away with lot of experiential knowledge. at this point in my life I am trying to gain momentum again and GOD know that when I do, I'm never stopping, I'm not saying I have learned everything there is to learn, I'm saying that i have learned to do less stupid things than most people and I still think am going to be up there with the big boys although I don't want to be famous like them I don't want to be on any list.

I would need your help bro. Abeg!

Mystic1:
Alright let's make this work. I've gone through the thread from the first page to the last page and I'm honestly inspired learning how people came across their fortune. I've also shared mine, became a millionaire at 23 (cryptocurrency investments and trading). 2019 is going to be a massive year for me and I'm opening up an opportunity to a few of you on here. I need dedicated people who can work. Yeah I know you all feel inspired but behind these millions are serious work. I don't want someone coming to me to beg for money, there's no free money anywhere and I honestly don't have money to dash out, but the little I have I shall give, which is pointing you to the way to make your first million next year legitimately.

To qualify, you must be in atleast one of these categories:
*You should be a graduate currently serving(preferably in schools)
*An undergraduate.
*Determined to work hard and be goal oriented.
*Ready to use your brain because this is going to be very tasking but pay will be worth the work and I guarantee you 1million by this time next year.

Please I'll repeat again, I am not giving out free money. I will only furnish you with every information you need and give you clues on how to fish then the ball will be in your court.
Interested people should drop their email, and I'll email you my contact. Thanks

agunwachris95@gmail.com