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andrewbaba44:
Why do you say he is overrated ?

Bayern is readying a German transfer record fee for the kid according to some sources

Whether Bayern bid $500M or not; it doesn't negate the fact that Pedri's valuation is exaggerated for his style of play. Football is business and should be run as such. Soon, his price will drop

andrewbaba44:
And how much do you think Barca will make it they sell de Jong pedri and Gavi even though I know they will never sell

Do you know pedri is rated 100 million plus ?

Now for example

Pedri 100M
De Jong 60
Gavi 40-50

How much is that in total ? 200 fvcking million which is enough to buy players ,but we can’t sell our futures

We are broke but our players are still well paid

But we no Dey sell

If I'm your President, I'll sanction the sale (esp Pedri and Gavi) and rebuild. Pedri will soon depreciate, he's overrated by the market for a player with his style. And Gavi? I'm not sold on him, yet. Frankie is gooooood.

drDoom3:
3 matches in a week and Nacho can't start any. When you say he is not driven enough and compare him to Ndidi and Onyeka people start arguing with you and saying you are pitting Igbo brothers against themselves.

I think that early City move he got made him so lazy. He seems to feel like he has tasted the summit already, so there is nothing greater for him to achieve.

Must you drag-in Igbos to make your point?

yinkeys:
Also not true of Eden Hazard
I see
Different clubs, different football philosophy
Why do slightly above players (Sanchez for example) shine in Arsenal but become trash in others(Man U)
They play to coaches instructions rather than to the teams or players strengths
@andrewbaba44
There’s a good reason Leicester won FA cup last season.

I thought we all agreed that when players perform below expectation, it means the league is above the player in question.

As for James, he had 2 good seasons at real Madrid. He was given opportunity to try elsewhere at Bayern but came back to Madrid after 2years. He went to Everton but was inconsistent. The fault is from James not the coaches.

yinkeys:
James Rodriguez from Columbia in 2014
Diego Forlan from Uruguay in 2010
I followed that tournament
Probably watched most of the games

Real Madrid went for James after that performance
Madrid ended up destroying that guy’s potential like Mourinho did to Mikel

This is not true. James stopped progressing after 2 seasons. This is not Madrid's fault...
As a player in a big club, one needs to keep working harder or he will be left behind.

MetalJigsaw:
hmm.. 4 instance?

Nigeria vs Algeria

drDoom3:
Am I the only one that has noticed that Igbo boys raised in Lagos are more ambitious career-wise compared to Igbo boys born and raised in the East. Compare Ndidi/Onuachu with Nacho/Nwakali/even Chuks whose development has stalled for years now.

Is your 'notice' just for footballers or in overall walk of life?

For footballers only, I may not have enough data off hand to argue with you but if it's for the later, I disagree with you - wholeheartedly.

daveP:
what part of clinical individual brilliance did you not get

We all watched Moses in GWG. He will add nothing new. We are not missing Victor Moses

andrewbaba44:
He should surely enjoy his retirement ,but I repeat saying Moses doesn’t have anything to offer is pure trash talk

So we should not praise him because he is doing well at the Europa league ?

If na una favorite player Dey do well there say una go let us hear word ?

Common go sit down for bush jare

Every small talk you go dae bark like dog.

andrewbaba44:
You should have said he should enjoy his retirement alone

But saying he has nothing to offer is pure trash talk

What have your current wingers given to you on their best days ?

Carry your trash talk go one corner.

Moses don't have any new different thing to offer us.

Because he's doing well in Europa league person no go hear word

daveP:
If na skillset,who dey wey don do am convincingly? Yeah,he might still be somehow, but what will his current skillset not solve? The XI has been quality back to back but still can't get that click, especially in this WCQ. Clinical individual brilliance at least near Salah's is missing in the GWG. Moses fits that. Ejuke doesn't cos it still showboating with the clinical aspect. If anyone doesn't want him, it should be cos he was of the older set and not cos he can't still offer good shows for GWG.

Moses doesn't near Salah at all - not even in example.

Someone who is struggling with goals and you are comparing him with Salah.

forgiveness:
I think you are. Vicmo is still better than most of our wingers and wing backs.

Why would you?

Yes, he's still better than Moses Simon and some others like Ejuke and Chuks, right? Ok- I can't fault your judgement but we need more than skillset. There's no dedication. Make him chop him retirement in peace abeg

elyte89:
But none of ur present wingers/wing backs is better Dan him .....FACT

He's having a good run of form in Europa league - only. That's commendable anyway. Still, we don't need him.

By the way; victor is a winger in GWG not a wingback.

forgiveness:
Are you kidding me?

Do I have any reason to?

isan:
Only 1 Laliga team will make it to round of 16 this year

At least three(3) will make it from La Liga

PROVERBZ:
I have just watched a Nigerian from the Nigerian league secure a centre back positiknb for one of the big threes in the DStv premier League.
I once mentioned him here on this group but I was attacked very aggressively by someone here cuz he perfeomwed very badly against a first class Mexican national team.

I'm not saying invite him right away but he should be in the discussions.
His perfromance yesterday is the kind of perfromance super eagles need from a centre back.


And also bring back Victor Moses and drops either chukwueze of ejuke for now.

Victor moses should enjoy his retirement. He has nothing much to offer. We have seen his best days...

fabyom:
No foreign coach has ever won the world cup! We need to appoint our own and pay them adequately! Finidi, Amuneke, Siasia, Egbo etc are all capable to handle our national team.

No African team has won Worldcup!

We need to concentrate our energy in the next Afcon and relinquish our chances in the forthcoming WC playoffs. We might just go with our WAFU team.

zuchyblink:
challenge it with facts don't be shallow

I still maintain that the 'best teams' always find their way in the world of football. Your conclusion that our inability to include enough NPFL players is the reason we are struggling is a fallacy. Or maybe you are just cherry-picking to suit your narrative.

Let's go to the 3 last world cups... Yes! I know you'd be glad. The last 3 teams that lifted the world cup has the majority of their team playing in the local league - France, Germany, and Spain. Using just the winner to prove a point is lopsided to me. Extending it to the semi-final seems more balanced.

The last 3 semifinals are;

2018:
France *
Croatia
Belgium
England*

2014:
Germany*
Argentina
Brazil
Holland*

2010:
Spain*
Holland*
Germany*
Uruguay

Ps : (* ) indicates teams with a majority of its players from local clubs.

Looking at the above, it appears that that selects its players from local clubs does the magic. Now, that's FALLACY because it happens both ways. Maybe, we don't acknowledge 'both ways' because of the human nature of selective bias.

Permit me to equate this to what's easily obtainable in our daily lives; e.g. Praying before a football match or praying while on transit. We always assume that the prayer was the reason we won and also the reason we had no accident. NO!

The reason they are doing well is that they have better players, players that are ready to fight with a good coach. 'Where' they are playing is largely immaterial.

Let's give another few examples....

In 2010 worldcup, France had much more (14) local players than they had in 2018 (9).

England are always known to have more than 80% (this is my figure) of their players in local league and yet, the highest they have gone is semi-final in 2018.

Russia had 23 of their player playing in local league but failed to qualify from group stage in 2014

Spain had majority of their players in local league in 2014 worldcup but didn't make it out of group stage.

In 2018, Italy didn't qualify for worldcup with majority of their players in Serie A

I can go on and on and on......

Like I said, unless we are just cherry-picking to suit us, your assertion is a mere fallacy.

seankafor:
this thing dey pain Me gan

I go dey here to mock una when our teams will start having dressing room troubles and mafia gangs..

I go mock all of una wey pursue Rohr..

I don already wish failure to the next appointee


He will fail woefully and I go dey here to laugh all of una..

We go shame you if it turns the opposite

zuchyblink:
There is something about home based players. Did you know that the most successful national teams in the world features more home based players than foreign based? The number of home based players that have won international laurels out-numbers foreign based players. Successful national teams like Germany,Italy, Brazil and Egypt achieved greatness with more of home based players. Npfl should try and improve our league. Do you know why super falcons are no longer what they used be? Because they don't play at home again so there is no cohesion

Fallacy

do4luv14:
this Data must not waste poo,


abet make una give me another link,

he's goal dey do me shege

hesgoal.com

That's where I dae watch mine

Arabiandude:
Make Andrew allow me carry am go HK, he refused. Rather he prefer to they use his data they grace nairaland every minutes and watch xvideos. Not forgetting also checking livescore

Andrew is a legit guy who loves it here.

Arabiandude:
Thank God you still vividly remember the day I started looking at you with an eye in this thread.
And to your warning or whatnot, I will crack you like a biscuit and chop you like a nobody and nobody can do anything as far Nigeria is concerned. Not even police or soldier or any other forces can ask me

Haba bro.

E don do naa

Arabiandude:
My brother, my own hustle na no end oh. I they always they online 20 hours daily just like Andrew, just that Andrew they use his presence online solely for nairaland and to watch xvideo

Why everybody dae have a-go at Andrew.

sheyishemba:
Says someone whose tribe is named after marijuana
We dey see how Dem dey arrest una people for drugs from Dubai to Estonia
Ndi developer I hail ohhh

Oga dae your lane ooo with your argument. Know how you dae talk.

AndSunGorilla:
So how come u dey share beer parlor gist. U dey work for there ni? Abi u just follow your oga go dia

God

andrewbaba44:
Mendy was purchased to bench Kepa ,Kepa error was too much at Chelsea

Someone that started all 4 Austria games in the euros and you still think he is not their number 1 , he started their last 5 games also ,11 caps this year alone and you said he can’t beat his chest to call him number one ,how many games Austria don play this year?

I don’t know if Maduka can claim that spot but I hope he does

Mendy was bought to compete with Kepa just like Maduka to compete with Bachmann.

Like I said earlier, he impressed the coach and has been starting a match after his debut earlier this year. No doubt, he has done great for himself.

Watford No. 1 spot is open come next season and Maduka can claim it.

12large1:
Nigerians single handedly destroyed uzoho career trajectory. A player that was fancied at a young age and playing regularly at la liga all of a sudden ended at a backwater league all because his country men assassinated his character by accusing him of age falsification

Na lie.

He lost form and started moving to lower leagues. It has happened to many. Few years back, Butlabd was England's No. 1

drDoom3:
Bachmann is Austria's number 1 goalie. He impressed hugely at the Euros this summer. The only reason he has not been starting too many games is because Foster is more experienced. Both are very good keepers Okoye can learn a lot from.

However, he is nowhere near their level.

He's Austria's No. 1 doesn't mean that Maduka can't bench him. Kepa was more of La Roja's no. 1 when Mendy joined Chelsea.

And also; you can't beat your chest to call him Austria's No. 1 goalie. For sometime now, they have been trying many GKs and baba got his first start at 26 earlier this year and impressed.

It's just like what we have currently between Uzoho and Maduka. So bro, it's 50/50 and Maduka can claim the the spot.

drDoom3:
He won't bench Foster and Bachmann though.

He should just keep going back to Rotterdam on loan until the road is clear for him to come back to EPL.

He can bench Bachmann or whatever his name is.

Forster belong to the past. I'm sure he's more than 37!

ChrisKels:
Imagine this guy at LB, Singo at RB, Boly and Baily as center backs against an ABF striker like Ighalo choi!

Cornet........Boly.......Baily.........Singo

Shooting from distance

COOL10:
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Exactly. It's obvious most Nigerians don't like him. He already shut a lot of people up by being the highest goalscorer at the last AFCON. He has absolutely nothing to prove to anyone.

He will not be the highest goal scorer. He won't even be a starter.