₦airaland Forum

just watched the osanyin video.. my yoruba knowledge is poor...what were u asking it?
is it a god or what?can u ask him when the first man walked on earth and how many years ago?

FOLYKAZE: Heya, the tsunami that hitted nairaland deleted a beautiful thread created about Osanyin.


What is the story you want to know about it?

You can enjoy this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIPimX-ZiCY and ask your question later on.

where's ur book

ghostofsparta: @folykaze check up to read and reply my modified post.



Guy you won't be the first to be asking such pertinent question. I provide answers for them in my book. It's will be too lengthy and disconnected if I post them here.

yup

Reyginus: I admire artificial intelligence but not without control. The implication in the future would be disastrous.
I think one can make a better sense if he understands the robot perfectly. If one can get the complete specifications and working mechanism of the robot, I think, that's when we can know the right thing to say.
The information above is not sufficient to build an argument.

theere may nt be now but the possiblity for this technology to evolve should nt be understated...the 'i-robot' scenario comes to mind...granted its jst a movie!!!!

okeyxyz: Proof?? Really?? I laugh in dothraki

There's no such thing as artificial consciousness. You rush too quickly and naively to declare the above. The only proof here is your lack of understanding of the world of computing and programming. What the robot in the OP does is simply captures data, identifies/determines patterns in the data and organizes such data to simulate learning(it's actually a trick in it's algorithm, rather than actual learning). Like I said before, there's no such thing as artificial or computer borne consciousness. Consciousness entails self-awareness, self-identity, self-determination(eg: ambition) and self-preservation. How can a computer be any of these. Does this program ever ask itself why it is doing what it is doing? It can't because it is not self-conscious. A conscious entity would be aware that it acts in certain ways either out of pleasure, or the will to survive or dominate in it's environment, etc, in other words self-interest. So what is the self-interest of this program? None!! It's just a robot, just processing what it's programmed to process in order to simulate learning.

the bolded cracked me up

FOLYKAZE: wad up man.

There is jazz and I am an atheist. Spiritual atheist specifically.

I dont want to disturb myself making video on one jazz and it coverage. It is magun which I recorded and despite the video, some people still paint it as lies saying it was acted or penis prob. I was forced to delete everything and even stop working on other researches I am on with. I dont want you to believe me, if you experience what I experience, it your choose to know and investigate further on what you experience.

Considering this bullet proof issue, mazaje tie with me on that. I challenged logicboy to present to me 6th generation computer machine and I will present Osanyin, a machine with artificial intelligence built thousands of years back....he ran away calling me names. The rest atheist on this forum are those I cant take serious.....there is different between talking and walking. I do both.

Personally, I have been doing some works on Ayeta. And since I have little knowledge about science, I am ready to submit my hypothesis on it for those serious scientist to continue study and final investigation from it. I have someone I wish to give it all to though but haven't reveal it to him yet.

Bro....ogun wa

where's the video?

FOLYKAZE: On Osanyin, what can you say about it from the video you watched?

We can discuss on what you saw, observed and warranted questions you feel like asking. . . . .from the video.


Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSOOCos6Es4

Vivalavida99: On the surface with the help of certain propaganda outlets, Putin is being painted as evil by the West. However in light of what the American's consider stabilizing a foreign government, such as Libya, or Iraq. Putin is perfectly reasonable to not want the American's stabilizing a neighboring country, and that such a Iraq / Libya style stabilization program could be considered at least as much a threat as the missiles were in Cuba. Putin wouldn't be out of line if he considered it his humanitarian duty to save all Ukrainians from becoming the next Libya or Iraq.

and wat do u know abt that?

moneybag100: Sis putin is more evil than the west....If given the chance, he will become the second Hilter.

its becoming frightenin so much i listen to alternative media sources nowadays
the first video was made before ghaddafi's death by drones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPKlyggraDE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjNSgr9ZclI

a pattern is beginning to emerge.....sadly so

fr3do: The western media propaganda against russia is now so heavy that it is becoming less convincing.

I think everybody should take chill pills.
In a nuclear war, everyone will suffer.

surprising that the media has all of a sudden 'forgotten' about this incident


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhPwX8p9i5w

u welcome...its all research jare..been reading about the 'BRICS countries and the effect it would have on the USA and suddenly a pattern is starting to emerge...also read about the rothschilds family
and especially as pertaning to the private banking system...its all scary....its why i feel if anything happens to putin and russia. there ll be no one left standing....watched and done enough 'readings' and videos on putin and somehow the monster i was expecting dddnt jump out of the screen...he seems to be the only sane person!!!!
and lastly still on the BRICS and N11 countries, with the introduction of conflicts by 'powerful forces' in trying to destabilize the economies of this BRICS countries so that the plan of using gold or another currency to buy oil instead of the dollar, its becoming predictable..the entire BRICS countries are targets for destabilization.

I foresee the introduction or the 'sponsoring' of Al qaeda/ISIS to move their looks/targets towards India; India would soon be subject to crisis which may be terrorism or something else...anything to destabilize the Indian economy....mark my words....

iamord: its good to see a few people research.. I have know about this for like a year now.. When I said hitler was not the main evil person. People said I was mad.. that war had to do with the capitalist, freemasons zionist and jews And private banking system.. There is somethong about this jews.. People need to wise up And be Careful.. That's why I love the Asians cos They don't give room for Penetration . But for africa... Hmmm. Our yansh just open to all Sort of junk.. you read more about private banking system and capitalism it will throw more light.. Kudos. To the OP. Always bringing up mind bogging posts

fROM WIKIPEDIA, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS
I quote,
BRICS is the acronym for an association of five major emerging national economies: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.[2] The grouping was originally known as "BRIC" before the inclusion of South Africa in 2010. The BRICS members are all developing or newly industrialised countries, but they are distinguished by their large, fast-growing economies and significant influence on regional and global affairs; all five are G-20 members.[3]
Potential members

Indonesia and Turkey have been mentioned as candidates for full membership of the BRICS, while Argentina, Egypt, Iran, Nigeria and Syria have expressed interest in joining BRICS.[39][40]
This link by wikipedia on the BRICS is not recemt


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw5Ij_RFJ1Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al_m15uyMMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvcRtQO3QWI

i really dont know...as one famous king once said.'history was/is written by the victors of war'

also in any issue i try and refrain as much as possible from 'taking sides' cos it really beclouds one's judgement.


http://www.rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm

Apatheist: So the Jews were the bad guys?

u right..it was disbanded after the soviet union collapsed

carefreewannabe: First of all, the USA and the EU have a very strong bond. Many European countries do NOT want Obama to stay out of it. The EU does not!

The[b] Warsaw Pact is NOT functional. [/b]

pls do!!and if u get more facts,share with us here

nora544: I will look if i can get more on this because I need to know more!

scientists and their jargons?do u know how u sound?

Obinoscopy: Hmmmmm......

Scientists and their jargons. All they do is explain the process. But what is the driving force behind the process? They obviously don't know.

continued
According to Jewish historian Walter Laqueur and many others, German Jews were far from convinced that immigration to Palestine was the answer. Furthermore, although the majority of German Jews refused to consider the Zionists as their political leaders, it is clear that Hitler protected and cooperated with the Zionists for the purposes of implementing the final solution: the mass transfer of Jews to the Middle East.

Edwin Black, in his massive tome The Transfer Agreement (Macmillan, 1984), stated that although most Jews did not want to flee to Palestine at all, due to the Zionist movement's influence within Nazi Germany a Jew's best chance of getting out of Germany was by emigrating to Palestine. In other words, the Transfer Agreement itself mandated that Jewish capital could only to go Palestine.

Thus, according to the Zionists, a Jew could leave Germany only if he went to the Levant.

The primary difficulty with the Transfer Agreement (or even the idea of such an agreement) was that the English [!!!; Scriptorium] were demanding, as a condition of immigration, that each immigrant pay 1,000 pounds sterling upon arrival in Haifa or elsewhere. The difficulty was that such hard currency was nearly impossible to come by in a cash-strapped and radically inflationary Germany. This was the main idea behind the final Transfer Agreement. Laqueur writes:

A large German bank would freeze funds paid in by immigrants in blocked accounts for German exporters, while a bank in Palestine would control the sale of German goods to Palestine, thereby providing the immigrants with the necessary foreign currency on the spot. Sam Cohen, co-owner of Hanoaiah Ltd. and initiator of the transfer endeavors, was however subjected to long-lasting objections from his own people and finally had to concede that such a transfer agreement could only be concluded on a much higher level with a bank of its own rather than that of a private company. The renowned Anglo-Palestine Bank in London would be included in this transfer deal and create a trust company for [this] purpose.

Of course, this is of major historical importance in dealing with the relationship between Zionism and National Socialism in Germany in the 1930s. The relationship was not one merely of mutual interest and political favoritism on the part of Hitler, but a close financial relationship with German banking families and financial institutions as well. Black writes:

It was one thing for the Zionists to subvert the anti-Nazi boycott. Zionism needed to transfer out the capital of German Jews, and merchandise was the only available medium. But soon Zionist leaders understood that the success of the future Jewish Palestinian economy would be inextricably bound up with the survival of the Nazi economy. So the Zionist leadership was compelled to go further. The German economy would have to be safeguarded, stabilized, and if necessary reinforced. Hence, the Nazi party and the Zionist organizers shared a common stake in the recovery of Germany.

Thus one sees a radical fissure in world Jewry around 1933 and beyond. There were, first, the non-Zionist Jews (specifically the World Jewish Congress founded in 1933), who, on the one hand, demanded the boycott and eventual destruction of Germany. Black notes that many of these people were not just in New York and Amsterdam, but a major source for this also came from Palestine proper.

On the other hand, one can see the judicious use of such feelings by the Zionists for the sake of eventual resettlement in Palestine. In other words, it can be said (and Black does hint at this) that Zionism believed that, since Jews would be moving to the Levant, capital flight would be necessary for any new economy to function.

The result was the understanding that Zionism would have to ally itself with National Socialism, so that the German government would not impede the flow of Jewish capital out of the country.

It served the Zionist interests at the time that Jews be loud in their denunciations of German practices against the Jews to scare them into the Levant, but, on the other hand, Laqueur states that "The Zionists became motivated not to jeopardize the German economy or currency." In other words, the Zionist leadership of the Jewish Diaspora was one of subterfuge and underhandedness, with only the advent of German hostility towards Jewry convincing the world's Jews that immigration was the only escape.

The fact is that the ultimate establishment of the state of Israel was based on fraud. The Zionists did not represent anything more than a small minority of German Jews in 1933.

On the one hand, the Zionist fathers of Israel wanted loud denunciations of Germany's "cruelties" to the world's Jews while at the same time demanding moderation so that the National Socialist government would remain stable, financially and politically. Thus Zionism boycotted the boycott.

For all intents and purposes, the National Socialist government was the best thing to happen to Zionism in its history, for it "proved" to many Jews that Europeans were irredeemably anti-Jewish and that Palestine was the only answer: Zionism came to represent the overwhelming majority of Jews solely by trickery and cooperation with Adolf Hitler.

For the Zionists, both the denunciations of German policies towards Jews (to keep Jews frightened), plus the reinvigoration of the German economy (for the sake of final resettlement) was imperative for the Zionist movement. Ironically, today the Zionist leaders of Israel complain bitterly about the horrific and inhuman regime of the National Socialists. So the fraud continues.

yeah, this is always hidden...incidentally i was discussin with an austrian phd research student who was doing his thesis on world war 2;after reciting offhand on things i knew, je just shook his head and told me i had no idea...then he directed me to links and several books though made unpopular

nora544: That are realy news for me, i never see this in my books about history and I live in Autria and my father was teacher for history.

continued

Thus, the fact - one conveniently left out of nearly all history on the subject - is that Hitler's March 28, 1933 boycott order was in direct response to the declaration of war on Germany by the worldwide Jewish leadership just four days earlier. Today, Hitler's boycott order is described as a naked act of aggression, yet the full circumstances leading up to his order are seldom described in even the most ponderous and detailed histories of "the Holocaust".

Not even Saul Friedlander in his otherwise comprehensive overview of German policy, Nazi Germany and the Jews, mentions the fact that the Jewish declaration of war and boycott preceded Hitler's speech of March 28, 1933. Discerning readers would be wise to ask why Friedlander felt this item of history so irrelevant.

The simple fact is that it was organized Jewry as a political entity - and not even the German Jewish community per se - that actually initiated the first shot in the war with Germany.

Deutsche! Wehrt Euch! Kauft nicht bei Juden!
Placard text:
"Germans! Defend yourselves!
Don't shop at Jewish stores!"
Photo not part of original TBR article -
added by The Scriptorium.
Germany's response was a defensive - not an offensive - measure. Were that fact widely known today, it would cast new light on the subsequent events that ultimately led to the world-wide conflagration that followed.

To understand Hitler's reaction to the Jewish declaration of war, it is vital to understand the critical state of the German economy at the time. In 1933, the German economy was in a shambles. Some 3 million Germans were on public assistance with a total of 6 million unemployed. Hyper-inflation had destroyed the economic vitality of the German nation. Furthermore, the anti-German propaganda pouring out of the global press strengthened the resolve of Germany's enemies, especially the Poles and their hawkish military high command.

The Jewish leaders were not bluffing. The boycott was an act of war not solely in metaphor: it was a means, well crafted, to destroy Germany as a political, social and economic entity. The long term purpose of the Jewish boycott against Germany was to bankrupt her with respect to the reparation payments imposed on Germany after World War I and to keep Germany demilitarized and vulnerable.

The boycott, in fact, was quite crippling to Germany. Jewish scholars such as Edwin Black have reported that, in response to the boycott, German exports were cut by 10 percent, and that many were demanding seizing German assets in foreign countries (Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement - The Untold Story of the Secret Pact between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine, New York, 1984).

The attacks on Germany did not cease. The worldwide Jewish leadership became ever the more belligerent and worked itself into a frenzy. An International Jewish Boycott Conference was held in Amsterdam to coordinate the ongoing boycott campaign. It was held under the auspices of the self-styled World Jewish Economic Federation, of which famous New York City attorney and longtime political power broker, Samuel Untermyer, was elected president.

Upon returning to the United States in the wake of the conference, Untermyer delivered a speech over WABC Radio (New York), a transcript of which was printed in The New York Times on August 7, 1933.

Untermyer's inflammatory oratory called for a "sacred war" against Germany, making the flat-out allegation that Germany was engaged in a plan to "exterminate the Jews." He said (in part):

...Germany [has] been converted from a nation of culture into a veritable hell of cruel and savage beasts.
We owe it not only to our persecuted brethren but to the entire world to now strike in self-defense a blow that will free humanity from a repetition of this incredible outrage....
Now or never must all the nations of the earth make common cause against the... slaughter, starvation and annihilation... fiendish torture, cruelty and persecution that are being inflicted day by day upon these men, women and children....
When the tale is told... the world will confront a picture so fearful in its barbarous cruelty that the hell of war and the alleged Belgian atrocities pale into insignificance as compared to this devilishly, deliberately, cold-bloodedly planned and already partially executed campaign for the extermination of a proud, gentle, loyal, law-abiding people...
The Jews are the aristocrats of the world. From time immemorial they have been persecuted and have seen their persecutors come and go. They alone have survived. And so will history repeat itself, but that furnishes no reason why we should permit this reversion of a once great nation to the Dark Ages or fail to rescue these 600,000 human souls from the tortures of hell....
...What we are proposing and have already gone far toward doing, is to prosecute a purely defensive economic boycott that will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence depends.
...We propose to and are organizing world opinion to express itself in the only way Germany can be made to understand..

Untermyer then proceeded to provide his listeners with a wholly fraudulent history of the circumstances of the German boycott and how it originated. He also proclaimed that the Germans were bent on a plan to "exterminate the Jews":

The Hitler regime originated and are fiendishly prosecuting their boycott to exterminate the Jews by placarding Jewish shops, warning Germans against dealing with them, by imprisoning Jewish shopkeepers and parading them through the streets by the hundreds under guard of Nazi troops for the sole crime of being Jews, by ejecting them from the learned professions in which many of them had attained eminence, by excluding their children from the schools, their men from the labor unions, closing against them every avenue of livelihood, locking them in vile concentration camps and starving and torturing them without cause and resorting to every other conceivable form of torture, inhuman beyond conception, until suicide has become their only means of escape, and all solely because they are or their remote ancestors were Jews, and all with the avowed object of exterminating them.

Untermyer concluded his largely fantastic and hysterical address by declaring that with the support of "Christian friends... we will drive the last nail in the coffin of bigotry and fanaticism...."

That his allegations against Germany were made long before even Jewish historians today claim there were any gas chambers or even a plan to "exterminate" the Jews, displays the nature of the propaganda campaign confronting Germany.

However, during this same period there were some unusual developments at work: The spring of 1933 also witnessed the beginning of a period of private cooperation between the German government and the Zionist movement in Germany and Palestine (and actually worldwide) to increase the flow of German-Jewish immigrants and capital to Palestine.

continued

According to The Daily Express of London of March 24, 1933, the Jews had already launched their boycott against Germany and her elected government. The headline read "Judea Declares War on Germany - Jews of All the World Unite - Boycott of German Goods - Mass Demonstrations." The article described a forthcoming "holy war" and went on to implore Jews everywhere to boycott German goods and engage in mass demonstrations against German economic interests. According to the Express:

The whole of Israel throughout the world is uniting to declare an economic and financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany has revived the old war symbol of Judas to new life. Fourteen million Jews scattered over the entire world are tight to each other as if one man, in order to declare war against the German persecutors of their fellow believers.
The Jewish wholesaler will quit his house, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his business, and the beggar his humble hut, in order to join the holy war against Hitler's people.

The Express said that Germany was "now confronted with an international boycott of its trade, its finances, and its industry.... In London, New York, Paris and Warsaw, Jewish businessmen are united to go on an economic crusade."

The article said "worldwide preparations are being made to organize protest demonstrations," and reported that "the old and reunited nation of Israel gets in formation with new and modern weapons to fight out its age old battle against its persecutors."

This truly could be described as "the first shot fired in the Second World War."

In a similar vein, the Jewish newspaper Natscha Retsch wrote:

The war against Germany will be waged by all Jewish communities, conferences, congresses... by every individual Jew. Thereby the war against Germany will ideologically enliven and promote our interests, which require that Germany be wholly destroyed.
The danger for us Jews lies in the whole German people, in Germany as a whole as well as individually. It must be rendered harmless for all time.... In this war we Jews have to participate, and this with all the strength and might we have at our disposal.

However, note well that the Zionist Association of Germany put out a telegram on the 26th of March rejecting many of the allegations made against the National Socialists as "propaganda," "mendacious" and "sensational."

In fact, the Zionist faction had every reason to ensure the permanence of National Socialist ideology in Germany. Klaus Polkehn, writing in the Journal of Palestine Studies ("The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi Germany, 1933-1941"; JPS v. 3/4, spring/summer 1976), claims that the moderate attitude of the Zionists was due to their vested interest in seeing the financial victory of National Socialism to force immigration to Palestine. This little-known factor would ultimately come to play a pivotal part in the relationship between Nazi Germany and the Jews.

In the meantime, though, German Foreign Minister Konstantin von Neurath complained of the "vilification campaign" and said:

As concerns Jews, I can only say that their propagandists abroad are rendering their co-religionists in Germany no service by giving the German public, through their distorted and untruthful news about persecution and torture of Jews, the impression that they actually halt at nothing, not even at lies and calumny, to fight the present German government.

The fledgling Hitler government itself was clearly trying to contain the growing tension - both within Germany and without. In the United States, even U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull wired Rabbi Stephen Wise of the American Jewish Congress and urged caution:

Whereas there was for a short time considerable physical mistreatment of Jews, this phase may be considered virtually terminated.... A stabilization appears to have been reached in the field of personal mistreatment.... I feel hopeful that the situation which has caused such widespread concern throughout this country will soon revert to normal.

Despite all this, the leaders of the Jewish community refused to relent. On March 27 there were simultaneous protest rallies at Madison Square Garden, in Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Cleveland and 70 other locations. The New York rally was broadcast worldwide. The bottom line is that "the New Germany" was declared to be an enemy of Jewish interests and thus needed to be economically strangled. This was before Hitler decided to boycott Jewish goods.

It was in direct response to this that the German government announced a one-day boycott of Jewish businesses in Germany on April 1. German Propaganda Minister Dr. Joseph Goebbels announced that if, after the one-day boycott, there were no further attacks on Germany, the boycott would be stopped. Hitler himself responded to the Jewish boycott and the threats in a speech on March 28 - four days after the original Jewish declaration of war - saying:

Now that the domestic enemies of the nation have been eliminated by the Volk itself, what we have long been waiting for will not come to pass.
The Communist and Marxist criminals and their Jewish-intellectual instigators, who, having made off with their capital stocks across the border in the nick of time, are now unfolding an unscrupulous, treasonous campaign of agitation against the German Volk as a whole from there....
Lies and slander of positively hair-raising perversity are being launched about Germany. Horror stories of dismembered Jewish corpses, gouged out eyes and hacked off hands are circulating for the purpose of defaming the German Volk in the world for the second time, just as they had succeeded in doing once before in 1914.

The Jewish Declaration of War
on Nazi Germany

The Economic Boycott of 1933

Long before the Hitler government began restricting the rights of the German Jews, the leaders of the worldwide Jewish community formally declared war on the "New Germany" at a time when the U.S. government and even the Jewish leaders in Germany were urging caution in dealing with the new Hitler regime.

The war by the international Jewish leadership on Germany not only sparked definite reprisals by the German government but also set the stage for a little-known economic and political alliance between the Hitler government and the leaders of the Zionist movement who hoped that the tension between the Germans and the Jews would lead to massive emigration to Palestine. In short, the result was a tactical alliance between the Nazis and the founders of the modern-day state of Israel - a fact that many today would prefer be forgotten.

To this day, it is generally (although incorrectly) believed that when Adolf Hitler was appointed German chancellor in January of 1933, the German government began policies to suppress the Jews of Germany, including rounding up of Jews and putting them in concentration camps and launching campaigns of terror and violence against the domestic Jewish population.

While there were sporadic eruptions of violence against Jews in Germany after Hitler came to power, this was not officially sanctioned or encouraged. And the truth is that anti-Jewish sentiments in Germany (or elsewhere in Europe) were actually nothing new. As all Jewish historians attest with much fervor, anti-Semitic uprisings of various degrees had been ever-present in European history.

In any case, in early 1933, Hitler was not the undisputed leader of Germany, nor did he have full command of the armed forces. Hitler was a major figure in a coalition government, but he was far from being the government himself. That was the result of a process of consolidation which evolved later.

Even Germany's Jewish Central Association, known as the Verein, contested the suggestion (made by some Jewish leaders outside Germany) that the new government was deliberately provoking anti-Jewish uprisings.

The Verein issued a statement that "the responsible government authorities [i.e. the Hitler regime] are unaware of the threatening situation," saying, "we do not believe our German fellow citizens will let themselves be carried away into committing excesses against the Jews."

Despite this, Jewish leaders in the United States and Britain determined on their own that it was necessary to launch a war against the Hitler government.

On March 12, 1933 the American Jewish Congress announced a massive protest at Madison Square Gardens for March 27. At that time the commander in chief of the Jewish War Veterans called for an American boycott of German goods. In the meantime, on March 23, 20,000 Jews protested at New York's City Hall as rallies were staged outside the North German Lloyd and Hamburg-American shipping lines and boycotts were mounted against German goods throughout shops and businesses in New York City.

I was looking up some materials on an online library months ago and came about several links on world war 2. Now the opinions perpetrated by these links is kinda outrageous as it doesnt agree with most of the facts which we can all recite offhand as told by our history books. I never realised that Judaea first declared war on germany..or that the treaty drawn up by the allied powers and which was forced on the germans to sign lead to the collapse of the german economy...also history omitted the fact that every allied power (usa and all) were all adviced by economic advisers who were all jews? There's also disputed fact on the holocaust as the number of jews killed (6million jews) was less than 1 million..The germans claim all literature on the war was written by the jews who inflated the numbers and so many other accounts..I dont know the truth.
I would have taken all these with a pinch of salt but after my research on the Titanic conspiracy(google 'j.p morgan, john astor and the titanic' and u would be shocked), i really have learned to distrust history and take a balanced view of things. I will copy paste from a site. u can also make ur own individual research!!!!

Notable quotes years before world war 2
[b]

Dr. Manfred Reifer, a well known leader of the Jews of Bukovina, wrote in the Jewish magazine Czernowitzer Allegemeine Zeitung (September 1933):

'Whilst large sections of the German nation were struggling for the preservation of their race, we Jews filled the streets of Germany with our vociferations. We supplied the press with articles on the subject of its Christmas and Easter and administered to its religious beliefs in the manner we considered suitable. We ridiculed the highest ideals of the German nation and profaned the matters which it holds sacred.'

Resentment and resistance began to build up against the alien horde and in the year before Adolf Hitler came to power Bernard Lecache, President of the World Jewish League, stated:

'Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her.'



Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of the Irgun Zvai Leumi terrorist organization, wrote in the January 1934 issue of Mascha Rjetach:

'For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community at each conference in all our syndicates and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will start a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand Germany's total destruction, collectively and individually. The German nation is a threat to us Jews.'

Emil Ludwig Cohen wrote in his book The New Holy Alliance, Strasburg, 1938:

'Even if Hitler at the last moment would want to avoid war which would destroy him he will, in spite of his wishes, be compelled to wage war.'

Bernard Lechache wrote in The Right to Live (December 1938):

'It is our task to organize the moral and cultural blockade of Germany and disperse this nation. It is up to us to start a merciless war.'


The Jewish newspaper Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederlands printed on 13 September 1939:

'The millions of Jews living in America, England, France, North Africa and South, not forgetting Palestine, have decided to carry on the war in Germany to the very end. It is to be a war of extermination.'

The Toronto Star (26 February 1940) printed a declaration of a Rabbi Perlberg, Director of the British section of the Jewish World Congress:

'The Jewish World Congress is in a state of war with Germany for seven years.'

The Jewish magazine Sentinel of Chicago printed in its issue of 8 October 1940:

'When the National Socialists and their friends cry or whisper that this [the war] is brought about by Jews, they are perfectly right.'

The American Secretary of State, James Forrestal, who later died in mysterious circumstances, wrote in his Forrestal Diaries (Cassel and Co., London 1952):

'Have played golf with Joe Kennedy [US Ambassador in Britain, father of President John Kennedy]. According to him, Chamberlain declared that Zionism and world Jewry have obliged England to enter the war.'

In 1941, long before there was any assembling of Jews for the supposed extermination camps, a Jew, Theodor N. Kaufman, wrote Germany Must Perish. Kaufman set out a plan for the total destruction of the German population by a very simple method: the mass sterilization of all German men and women between the age of puberty and sixty years. He described the construction of the organization for doing this. This book was the basis of the Morgenthau Plan for the total destruction of German industry and the enslavement of the German race. Naturally these intentions of Germany's enemy got into the hands of the German propaganda minister Goebbels, and it stiffened the resistance of the German nation to avoid defeat. The Morgenthau Plan formed the basis of discussions between President Roosevelt and Soviet leader Stalin acting through his liaison officer, the Soviet Jew Zabrousky, and also formed the basis of the Yalta Agreement.


[/b]







Lastly:pls i am not anti semitic or anti west!!!I just feel as educated humans we should be able to ask questions





source:

http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-worldconspiracies-germany-how-jews-planned-ww2.html
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2011/08/why-holocaust-denial.html

first time we agree on nairaland.
there's hope for this country yet

Bluetooth2: Are you serious ? What of the US that organizes military exercises with Japan, South korea and her other allies ?

Crimea and East ukraine are buffer zones so Russia cannot just sit and let what she suffered during world wars to befall her again.

Mind you the Warsaw Pact is still technically alive.

Ur agrument bothers on ignorance sorry to say...I used to believe everything i read and watch via cnn and sky news till i started doing my own personal research and watchning alternate news sources..all the time and through reading so much espoinage novels, i have been conditioned to think by default that rUSSIA IS AN INSANE and ruthless country and all. It would surprise u to know that Putin may be the good guy in this crisis. Have u heard of the BRICS and the conspiracy to nip the plan of the BRICS In the bud? THe BRICS countries r made up of Brazil, russia, china, india and southa africa....this r emerging world powers and they kind of wanna change the currency of exchange from the american dollar to most probably gold..This will effectively make America a broke economy and cripple it. The only thing america can do is to cripple this nations or provoke a war..After russia brought out evidence that suggested that they werent involved with the MH17 incident, american and all suddenly became quiet and the matter has died down in the media...Have u ever asked who created ISIS in the first place?
What i dont understand is the USA drive for provoking wars all in a bid to save the citizens' of this nations?libya,iraq? coincidentally oil producing nations?r the ctizenrty better or worse?
while the russian ruling government aint clean, we should however be careful...its always better to have two equally strong balancing acts in world reckoning else what we have may be a new world order where 1 country calls all the shots..Russia and may be the chinese may be the last nations standing....

I will copy paste the link for youtube video's on America's defence
I will also copy paste Several clips of putin which i m sure u havent ever seen in the western media


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhPwX8p9i5w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8xSZ9Fr4c0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6d5zw2tnTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwWD-VVBEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hniR-KVtUCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF2ay8S-HaA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al_m15uyMMc

btw,

matify: PUTIN and ISIS combination have drawn the world to the brinks of her ANNIHILATION !!

I am a xtian;lemme state it outrighht
Secondly due to several materials and doing a lil research, the paranois of Hitler might not have been so crazyy after all..What do we know about world war 2 save for materials we see in libraries or the media? Do any of us know that Jews first declared war on germany? Do u know the kind of reparations and treaties that germany was forced to sign after world war 1 that made the german economy verge on the edge of collapse?Do u know that every re[presentative of the world powers who forced germany to sign the treatises after world war 1 had jewish backing..have u heard about the Rothschild family?.I dont want to talk to much so i wont be seen as anti semitic but i think the conclusion i have drawn over the past few years is to never believe the media and also to look for other sources of history.
For example i was to tell u that the titanic incident might have been planned for the sole purpose of establishing the US Fedral reserve system, u would call me a liar...just google 'titanic, jp morgan and john astor'...u would be surprised....

Youngsage: Why?

my childhood's quite identical to urs

CNN80: Pls, I want to ask a question and no one should crucify/insult me.

I grew up in what a lot of my friends considered a privileged home. Yet

At 7, I was expected to wash my socks and underwear and that of my immediate junior ( with supervision)
At 8, I started to learn how to cook.
At 9, I had joined my mother/aunties/cousins/maids in the Saturday washing. I also prepared corn for grinding from the farm, helped peeling cassava for garri, swept my room, weeded outside etc.

By the time I was going to boarding school (just before I turned 11), I could take care of the house with little supervision if need be.

By 12, I could be left alone overnight with my younger ones without my parents having to panic.
By 13, I could be left hours at a stretch with a baby (3 months to about a year) and be expected to know what to do. And if there was an emergency, I knew to go immediately to the neighbour's house to inform them and my brother knew who to immediately make a phone call to.

Now, if I could do all these and take it as a part of growing up, what is wrong with getting someone at that age to do it? Please note that I don't have a maid nor am I considering getting one. I am lucky to be in a position where I don't need it.