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u trying to mention the hand of God and his works and in the same breath u call someone a bastard.... this is the closest thing to an oxymoron in literature..or ahould i say irony..our xtians sha

sunex: U jus a bastard ,go confirm dat frm ur mum and Go and read my comment again, I neva said the removal of d pic caused d accident bt God showed them dat he exist by protecting the crates of eggs. Assuming d pic was left in d car, they mit av bn saved... hope u get it now empty skull.

what still is the meaning of things 'beyond us'.... Na wa o..hw is trying to find out the real tragedy behind the titanic 'beyond us'.

and between the term unsinkable was used in the movie adaptation...i have copy pasted links that buttress these issue..Why cant u do a lil research...even iamord pasted a quote from a link.
'The correct quote is "God Himself
could not sink this ship", not ,"Not
even God can sink this ship" . The
quote actually comes a chapter in
Walter Lord's book A NIGHT TO
REMEMBER. According to Lord, the
line goes back, not to the President of
the White Star Line, but to an article
in SHIPBUILDER magazine, which was
picked up and used in other
publications.
http://www.snopes.com/history/
titanic/un...

Times are changing and we need to be more enlightened and learn to do independent thinking...the world is moving fast and we need to at least do our best to tag along...saying things like 'its beyond human reasoning' is not doing this race any good.

DECOtech: I'm talking of the point you made or tried to make when you mentioned "Nairaland and one sinner" As for human reasoning and things beyond us, all we know was that someone boasted and was shamed. I think this whole argument about who or what sank a ship 100yrs ago is a waste of profitable time.

if only people will do a lil research...sometimes i wonder

iamord: Found out someone actually said that .. But read below what I call an intellect respond to the titanic issue.. Doomsday preachers tend to capitalize on negatives to validate their Views and points, the haiti earthquake and this ebola is a good example.. Blamed on the wrong thing,

Larry R answered 6 years ago
A) RMS Titanic was owned by the
White Star Line, which itself was
owned by International Merchan
Marine, an Anglo-American
Conglomerate, which was in turn
largely owned by J.P.Morgan.
Bottom line...you got the name
wrong.
B) RMS Titanic sank at 2:20AM (local
time) April 15, 1912. There was NO
"worldwide Raido" in 1912.
Bottom line...you got ANOTHER fact
wrong.
C) The correct quote is "God Himself
could not sink this ship", not ,"Not
even God can sink this ship" . The
quote actually comes a chapter in
Walter Lord's book A NIGHT TO
REMEMBER. According to Lord, the
line goes back, not to the President of
the White Star Line, but to an article
in SHIPBUILDER magazine, which was
picked up and used in other
publications.
http://www.snopes.com/history/
titanic/un...
Hint...get your facts straight if you
want someone to take you seriously.
D) Titanic sank because she was
moving at to high a rate of speed in a
known icefield. She hit the berg on
her starboard side. The impact
crumpled hull plates and snapped
rivets, resulting in flooding in six of
her sixteen major watertight
compartments. She was designed so
that up to five compartments could
flood and she would still float. This is
a good discussion of the sinking.
http://www.writing.eng.vt.edu/uer/
basset...
A quick quote. "The damage caused
by the collision allowed water to flood
six of the sixteen major watertight
compartments. As water rushed into
the starboard side of the ship's bow,
the ship began to tilt down in front
and slightly to the right. By midnight,
water in the damaged compartments
began to spill over into others
because the compartments were
watertight only horizontally and the
walls extended only a few feet above
waterline. By 1:20 a.m., water began
flooding through anchor-chain holes.
Around 2:00, as the bow continued
submerging, the propellers in the
stern were lifted out of the water.
Flooding progressed until, at about
2:10, the bow of the ship was under
water and the stern was lifted out of
the water almost 45 degrees.
Because of the tremendous weight of
the three large propellers in the stern
of the ship, the stresses in the ship's
midsection increased immensely as
the stern was lifted out of the water.
At an angle of 45 degrees or more,
the stresses in the midsection
exceeded the ultimate stresses of
the steel and the steel failed."
Again...always helps to know what
you are talking about.
E) As it was, Titanic faired remarkably
well in the sinking, Lusitania sank in
only 15 min when she was torpedoed
by a German U-Boat three years
later. Here is a good source http://
www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/lin...
Final points.
The Sinking of the Royal Mail Steamer
TITANIC had nothing to do with Divine
retebution and everything to do with
negligent operation of the vessel by
the captian and crew. They were
overconfident, and they were not
familar with the ship. TITANIC was a
wonderful ship, but, as witnessed by
her sister ship OLYMPIC's colision with
the HMS Hawke a few months earlier
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/
oly... the ship was very large, and
very powerful and very new... nobody
had a lot of experience in handling
ships that size becuase up until very
recently there had never been ships
that size before.
If you honestly think God deliberately
sank the Titanic, you have an
astonishly poor grasp of even the
basic truths of Christianity

i may need to quit nairaland

freshness2020: There is nothing crappy about my post...
They were so unfortunate to have boarded that ship! One nids to be strong in prayers! Things beyond our comprehension happen everyday!

going by the level of reasoning in this thread, i think we jst came out of nowhere man....its a pity seriously

alobam1: So funny that as at that time in 1912 when Europe and America where making their mistakes and co-correcting themselves.Building ships as mighty as the Titanic,Africa was still in the very very Dark ages..Leaves me with that question,Are we Black Africans made by God or we just came out of no-where..I cant seem to comprehend at all

and so he decided to wipe out almost the whole peeps who boarded the ship cos of one statement?kai...


just google 'J.P Morgan and the titanic' and u ll see so many alternate theories on the sinking...research s the way forward

solidman59: To add to what you've said, it also makes me wonder how we challenge the very essence of our existence. Some1 said even God himself couldn't sink that ship but we can see what an iceberg did to eat. Pride really goes b4 a downfall. #science and faith#

pls tell 'em...i tire for the way people reason on this forum..very soon someone ll say ebola is an act of God

Shokoloko: Pls God did not show the owner anything. Before people come and say God sank the ship, He did not!
The titanic was warned severally about the iceberg. The captain and crew chose to sink that ship by not heeding the warnings.

wat exactly is ur point? hope u dont wanna say that the people who died were sinners ?

and what is the meaning of 'Pls stop tryn to use human reasoning to explain things that are beyond us?'? what exactly is wrong with us? u never heard of doing research

DECOtech: Was it everyone on the Titanic that died? What would you say about the woman who lived to tell the story at a very old age? Can we Pls stop tryn to use human reasoning to explain things that are beyond us?

lol...i dnt really v any opinion on the conspiracy theory but the fact that xtians here say God sank the ship to show his might is quite appalling and baffling and quite illogical to me...sometimes i get tired of nairaland

iamord: It really annoys me the way people just hear one sided conspiracy that suits a part that will be used with the control dogma.. The rubbish o f them mentioning God is not true . There are so many conspiracies to that story. But I tell u that story is not true. Stop limiting your brains.. I pray a bigger and better one gets built in the future

do ur research properly as this is the misconception we seem to have. the quotation was made in the movie titanic.

"God himself could not sink this ship!" This quotation, made famous by Cameron's film, is reputed to have been the answer given by a deck hand when asked if Titanic was really unsinkable.
It seems incredible to us today that anyone could believe that 70,000 tonnes of steel could be unsinkable, but that was exactly what people in 1912 believed. The information on this page will seek to look at some of the reasons why people at the time had that belief.

The shipbuilders Harland and Wolff insist that the Titanic was never advertised as an unsinkable ship. They claim that the 'unsinkable' myth was the result of people's interpretations of articles in the Irish News and the Shipbuilder magazine. They also claim that the myth grew after the disaster.

Ela59: That statement was made by the Engineer, because of there precautions and safety rule they attched.

http://www.historyonthenet.com/titanic/unsinkable.htm

let me requote u

freshness2020: No, ♈όϋ need spiritual comprehension to understand some certain things in our lives!
At the Launch of Titanic on May 31 in 1911..
When he was asked by a Journalist concerning the ship.
Look at what he said "not even God can sink it"
that is God for ♈όϋ ..it was so unfortunate some precious lives had to go with it..

i didnt blame God..its y'all who did..How do u knw if it was the work of the devil or God? hw were u even sure that statement was made?
Was the opinion of the journalist the opinion of everyone on that ship?if one person on nairaland was a sinner, would God kill all of us because of that person? Remember when Abraham was praying for the people living in sodom and Gommorah..And God said he would spare the town if he could find at least 10 people who were clean and sinless. If he could do that, why wont he do for the titanic ship..Its u who lack spiritual understanding and not me...stop blackmailing people spritually by depicting tragedy as the work of God..God doesnt bring evil or bad deeds to one..I am not a churchy but i think i m better in reasoning than most of u
do u know there r other theories of the sinking of the titanic? besides the fact that i live in the town the ship sailed from (southampton), do u knw that most of the town peeps dont believe it was an iceberg that sank the ship?do ur research..u ll never hear this sort of thing in the media
And lastly be more open minded
http://www.rmstitanicremembered.com/?page_id=283
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_conspiracy_theory.shtml
http://www.omgfacts.com/Interesting/There-s-a-conspiracy-theory-that-the-Tit/54649

freshness2020: There's nothing wrong with our Christians! Is just ♈όϋ. ♈όϋ need spiritual understanding!
♈όϋ wanna mock him?

and so becaause of a single journalist, he killed hundreds of people?what is wrong with our xtians and our understanding of God?

freshness2020: No, ♈όϋ need spiritual comprehension to understand some certain things in our lives!
At the Launch of Titanic on May 31 in 1911..
When he was asked by a Journalist concerning the ship.
Look at what he said "not even God can sink it"
that is God for ♈όϋ ..it was so unfortunate some precious lives had to go with it..

explain!!!by people dying or what

freshness2020: When I remember Titanic , I see how Great God can be.. He is ǻƪƪ and ǻƪƪ ..the Owner tried God and God really show him Who He is.

how??

missdebs: vanity upon vanity *weeping*

I tire
Bolaji for my street play pass cleverly

olubukato: awww..uzo sorry o
hope still dey na...

I'm jst tired of manutd

e don tey..lol...i m an old man nw and repented

Bootybuttchic: haaaaa....olu fapper ....so u people are the ones who come to raid us abi

we use to com all d way from my sch (wont mention) to scare y'all
memories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bootybuttchic: those bastards really terrorised us ooo....they rape provisions ,and make u starve,scary creatures,am sure they were students,some were villagers

put up this notice in page 1 so it can b viewed by newbies

nice work u doing...i hope so of the guys who this has opened doors for will remember to thank u

lynx200: I want to add a word here especially for the newbies who are just entering the movie industry. I try to ensure that the auditions I list here are free and the audition holders do not collect any form of money in whatever guise from artistes. Once in a while I see that one slip my dragnet like the Oworonsoki audition where I heard the producers are demanding N5000 from those who want to be auditioned. I do not endorse auditions where you have to pay as from my own personal experience they turn out to be frauds.

lol...command people...u ever heard of the 'blanket man'

Bootybuttchic: are u kidding ....am 2011 ibadan

una no go kill me for nairaland o

iamtewwy: damm!! he healed the american doctors he couldnt heal the nigerian and liberian doctors he allowed dem to bleed and vomit thier instestines out, allowed them to suffer till death!! isnt he a racist?

Zikdik: An American doctor? What's the difference betwixt her and the Nigerian doctor who died recently? She was a Christian. Jesus couldn't heal her?
That's just bloody racial.

u can begin by getting off the internet..if u want ur comments to be on nairaland..kneel down and pray and by miracles ur comment ll appear here

Lilmanai: Omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient is our God. Who is this science is i may ask? Hw did it came into existence?

and ur english also

i miss the catena

grat1aeo: Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary,
that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection,
implored your help or sought your intercession,
was left unaided.
Inspired with this confidence,
I fly to you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother;
to you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful.

O Mother of the Word Incarnate,
despise not my petitions,
but in your mercy hear and answer me.

Amen.

hilarious!!!!!truly hilarious!!!!

all4naija: There is no need to build like Dubai to have a well functioning society. Indeed, Dubai extravagance is for attention-seeking notion. It is a city built on fantasy without having sense of building the citizens based on skill and technological contribution to humanity. I wouldn't want Nigeria to follow such footstep.

This is not about self-aggrandizement but speaking for what works in a sustainable way. Dubai can't stand that pace of development for the next 30 years to come and that is one of the reasons they are doing their best to promote and exaggerate things as we have seen in those images to attract foreigners. Nigeria should aim for sustainable development.

beggars cant be choosers
u really do need to get of ur high horse

all4naija: I wouldn't want Nigeria to be like Dubia in its extravagance, without substance and a sense of national skills.

Would you like to enjoy adventure in snow and ice? Especially if it is in Dubai, you will be much more interested. Would you ever imagine that a perfect desert like Dubai can offer the skiing in snow and ice? Many people from all over the including the neighboring emirates, Oman and Qatar flock to Dubai to have fun filled wonderful time in the majestic facilities of Ski Dubai.

Ski Dubai acclaimed as one of the largest indoor ski resorts is part of the Mall of the Emirates. It is themed after some of the world renowned ski resorts in Europe. An amazing Ski Dubai offers a whopping 22, 500 square meters of skiing and it is fully snow covered making it the most adventurous and entertaining ski resort. The state of the art technologies are adopted here to maintain the thick snow layers perfectly suitable for skiing. Also the temperatures, -1 degree Celsius in day and -6 degree Celsius in night, are meticulously maintained. This ski resort has real snow all through the year irrespective of climate and season.

The ski Dubai offers mild to very tough adventures for the skiing enthusiasts. The ski slopes are 80 meters wide and 85 meters high. There are five runs of varying levels of difficulties; the longest has a run of 400m. Real challenge for the skiers lies in the slopes changing in heights and the gradients. Ski Dubai is suitable for all types of skiers, novices to experts. It can at a time facilitate 1500 guests.

The management of Ski Dubai provides all clothing, gears and equipments required for entertaining skiing. Winter jackets, caps, gloves and snow boards are readily available here. Quad chairs and the tow lifts bring back the skiers after their skiing from top to down. Themed restaurants located at various heights offer the skiers with enough coffee items required to pump energy in to the body. Ski Dubai also offers professional instructors for helping the novices with important lessons of skiing.

There reallly s no hope 4 d black race

the first sane comment i v seen here......

milehigh06: you think loosing her husband is fun?the woman has no reason to apologize for the actions of her husband but she is doing same and in the spirit of church goers and MOG worshippers that we are,we are quick to refuse to accept her apology then tomorrow we will be claiming the role of Holy spirit crusader

i hope the Rothschild dnt v a hand in this