 Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 11:26am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Ttalk:
Your type and this type of your post are responsible if Yoruba people started giving back what you have been dishing for so many years.
Your brain was in hibernation when MNK was dishing out command to destroy Lagos, where was your voice when a BRT and government property were being destroyed on account of MNK instruction and hateful Igbo like you responded and celebrated the destruction of Lagos?
You are a bigot and a hypocrite Although if Nnamdi Kanu was quite loud about it, it was a joint effort that resulted in the carnage in Lagos; hence, it is incorrect to attribute everything to the Ibos. Was the palace of the Oba of Lagos attacked by the Ibos? I am now an Ibo man since I hold a different viewpoint. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 10:49am On Feb 24, 2023 |
inoki247:
You're diverting bro everybody's guilty stop trying to spin the Narrative....
And you saying this more than a name isn't more than a name to you is tribalism will you lie that you've never called a Northerner Aboki or Mallam don't lie so then we are all tribalist you just an hypocrite....
What I know is even in Yoruba land dey easily give names to things with what they can attribute u to....
You can even see word Like Baba Lawyer, Baba carpenter is that doz people name so should now start calling dem a tribalist also....
You people bully people online back to back and after been accused you hide and say is the other person that's disguising and abusing people to pin it on dem....
Everybody's a tribalist you always hide your own with a narrative while some come out to show dere own without hiding....
You didn't see where people are trying to divide a whole region with cos of religion you're just an hypocrite....
If you say someone is a tribalist what Abt people trying to sew the seed of religion intolerance...
We all guilty of something but you people disguising is what I don't understand you will see other people own buh you will be hiding yours or be adding justification to it.....
Jonathan First tenure Yoruba Voted him massively and if people decide not to vote for him again is dere right you don't blackmail people and start calling dem betrayal you've been saying this for the past 7yrs people didn't talk and you're now been paid back in ur own coin you're now playing the victim card.... Why do they automatically label everybody with a different opinion as Ipob or Ibo and call anyone who is not Yoruba "Omo Obi"? The Yorubas embrace tribalism as their way of life, whilst the Ibos do it in their own unique way. Everyone is tribalistic in some way, just as everyone is egotistical in some way, as you stated, and that is true, but making it a way of life is insane. That's comparable to xenophobia. Because the AC front-runner was a weak opponent, the Yorubas were forced to vote for Goodluck Jobathan in 2011. It was a smart decision to make. This does not relieve GEJ of any responsibility, however, as I believed that he sided more with the north than the south when he articulated his policies. He was incapable of even tireing the route to Otouke. Sad! My main argument is that some Yoruba elites' blatantly tribalistic behavior is abhorrent. The Ibo guys have every right to even campaign this way because they have been appropriately marginalized, but that is not the case. I've never seen an Ibo person use the catchphrases "Yoruba ronu," "Where's your Yorubaness," or anything similar. In contrast to the Yoruba candidate, the Ibo candidate promotes himself as a messiah, even if that may not be the case. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 10:33am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Kayyy:
It is very obvious that you're a bigot and a yoruba hating fellow, your hatred shows through you very well, you have explained away 7years of hatred, bile toxicity from most people on the east led by a popular Nnamdi Kanu, it wasnt just hatred and bigotry, but it led to violence and insecurity as well, many nigerian policemen have been killed and numerous police station have been burnt in the south east with most south easterners rejoicing to this news, where were you during Nnamdi Kanu's sit at a home and the people here celebrating it and mocking the governors and president orders against it, you excused and deflected all that away but was able to remember Brymo, and you now come here and refer to a candidate that supported such man nnamdi Kanu and even accosted him to court as s Nigerian candidate and called Tinubu a Yoruba candidate ?,;if you have lived in this country all through this period and this bile is what you have in your mind and pouring out then you yourself is hatred personified and a tribal bigot to the Yoruba people. What caused the 'bigotry' and 'hate' that the Ibos allegedly harbored toward other tribes? Nnamdi Kanu was able to speak to the Ibo people's intrinsic characteristics as a result of their marginalization and also as a result of the exclusionary attitudes and words made about them by some well-meaning authorities. The OPC would have suffered the similar fate if the Yorubas had not been rewarded by the presidency in 1999. Even though OBJ wasn't a majority of the Yoruba's choice, He was Yoruba by heritage, nevertheless. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 10:14am On Feb 24, 2023 |
inoki247:
You people have problem with everything....
This not Abt tribe Yoruba easily create name for people if dey don't know your name like tagging u with what you do or if dey know ur tribe...
You will see someone riding Napep dey will call him Baba oni Keke, sell pepper iya alata can we all call this tribalism even Hausa are tagged Aboki or Mallam so why're you trying to spin everything I'm sure even if his in the SE a northerner will still be called Aboki or Mallam so to you now let's admit everybody's a tribalist so you people should stop forming ...
Every tribe or region is guilty of one derrogatory word or the other but you people will always come online claiming saint.....
Through out this Buhari tenure SE people av been abusing the West massively you didn't see that, they call us Afonja, the betrayer different name they're now been pay back with there own coin you're now trying to play the victim card....
Who started the word Yoruba Muslim, Yoruba Christian looking for a way to divide the region with religion..
You guys will never talked about all this but you will always hide your hypocrisy...
Have the West ever try to divide the SE with region....
And you saying people are adding individual achievement in Lagos to a candidate achievement...
Why're you people adding people WAEC results in Anambra to Obi achievement I guess Obi was the one who also sat down for the WAEC exam and also read on Anambra students behalf....
We are all hypocrite buh you guy's will always try to play the victim card always..... There is more to this than just names. Because you aren't communicating in Yoruba, a merchant can get infuriated and even loose a sale. I saw this firsthand in Ibadan. Why would a well-known APC leader declare, "They come to our Lagos in night buses" Also, sone Yoruba people were even supporting him. There are certain Yoruba people that exhibit apartheidic tendencies. These individuals appeal to them because of this, much like Hitler did with the Germans and Trump did with white supremacists. In Nigeria, no tribe acts in that manner. These people are not trying to hide their bigotry. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 10:00am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Goke7:
A dunce cannot make a good governor of Lagos e.g. Oyinlola as military governor was almost a complete failure
It’s a stupid propaganda As the military governor of Lagos, Oyinola fared remarkably well. When General Sani Abacha's dictatorship was facing the greatest level of opposition from the populace following the annulment of the election, he worked hard as the military administrator of Lagos State to restore peace to the state. Oyinlola constructed a number of public schools, general hospitals, and housing estate in Lagos State. One of the legacies he left behind was the Opebi link bridge and road, along with Lagos House Governor's Lodge in Abuja. As a means of preventing armed robberies, he also announced the security organization "Operation Sweep." While Oyinola was in power, it was a dangerous moment to be a leader, but he tackled it head-on. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 9:42am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Kayyy:
For 7 of Buhari's 8 year tenure, most south easterners called this country a zoo, were you alive when Nnamdi Kanu was insulting everything yoruba including pastors, threatening them not to enter their region ?, Peter Obi your Nigerian candidate followed Nnamdi Kanu several times to court as an ally In solidarity despite all the evil words that came out of his mouth, did you come here online to condemn him, now you want to insult our intelligence by referring to that same person as a Nigerian candidate and have the audacity to call Tinubu a tribal candidate ?,
The mental gymnastics people like you play is so baffling, this is so silly if you to attempt , let the best man win,band whoever wins will be our president simple. That's right; the perceived marginalization of the Ibo and the inciting remarks made against them by some renowned officials in this country were the only factors contributing to the Ibo's growing hatred of other tribes. Yet others still do; once a famous artist insulted an entire ethnic group. Any tribe will act similarly, as did the Yorubas when they perceived injustice being meted out to a great Yoruba leader in the person of MKO of blessed memory. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 9:37am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Kayyy:
You must look yourself in the mirror with this revisionism you're trying to do here, first you denegrate the APC candidate as being a tribal candidate, what makes him a tribal candidate and makes Peter Obi a Nigerian candidate, all of you have used mischief and propaganda all through this election cycle and we all see through it, it is the audacity to pretend others are not playing tribal politics and you label another tribe of playing tribal politics, since when has yoruba and Edo vote align in the history of this country ? If you claim to be the righteousness you are, why don't you start from your state, your state has best witnessed improvements during the tenure of Oshiomole aligned with APC, but what did you guys vote in your last elections, you claimed Edo no be Lagos , well the result is clear in your face now, you guys have always aligned yourself with south eastern/south south politics regardless of whatever gains you get and now you come out here like on righteous person trying to call yoruba tribalists for supporting Tinubu?
Despite all the stones and insults you have used against him during this election cycle , you guys have refused to discuss merits, who has impacted the people most positively amongst all the candidates during their stewardship?, Who has built a plan that is still till today the most effective interms of development to their people, interms of work and action as a leader during their tenure whose work will you vouch for sincerely ?, when we ask this all you resort is Lagos this , Lagos that, and all other deflections.
Pls spare us all this gibberish now, let the best man win, if Peter Obi wins, he would be my president and we will allow him do his thing, if he loses all fair as well, besides if you are looking for a Nigerian candidate in this election, Atiku better represents that than whom you are referring to The Edo people have always outlines with what they seem is proper. Because we believed the previous administration was horrible, Edo State was the only SS state to vote for Buhari with 45% of the vote in 2015. The Edo man is a free thinker. Oshiobaba performed admirably in his role as governor of the state of Edo, but this does not warrant hero worship on our part. After all, he was chosen to do the job. You may think that AA is a wonderful leader, but he lacks the qualities of great leadership, such as integrity, character, and independence of thought. In contrast to the Yoruba candidate, the Ibo candidate does not present himself as a tribal candidate. Like I said earlier, I’m not campaigning for any of the candidates. I’m just pointing out my observation. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 9:36am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Kayyy:
You must look yourself in the mirror with this revisionism you're trying to do here, first you denegrate the APC candidate as being a tribal candidate, what makes him a tribal candidate and makes Peter Obi a Nigerian candidate, all of you have used mischief and propaganda all through this election cycle and we all see through it, it is the audacity to pretend others are not playing tribal politics and you label another tribe of playing tribal politics, since when has yoruba and Edo vote align in the history of this country ? If you claim to be the righteousness you are, why don't you start from your state, your state has best witnessed improvements during the tenure of Oshiomole aligned with APC, but what did you guys vote in your last elections, you claimed Edo no be Lagos , well the result is clear in your face now, you guys have always aligned yourself with south eastern/south south politics regardless of whatever gains you get and now you come out here like on righteous person trying to call yoruba tribalists for supporting Tinubu?
Despite all the stones and insults you have used against him during this election cycle , you guys have refused to discuss merits, who has impacted the people most positively amongst all the candidates during their stewardship?, Who has built a plan that is still till today the most effective interms of development to their people, interms of work and action as a leader during their tenure whose work will you vouch for sincerely ?, when we ask this all you resort is Lagos this , Lagos that, and all other deflections.
Pls spare us all this gibberish now, let the best man win, if Peter Obi wins, he would be my president and we will allow him do his thing, if he loses all fair as well, besides if you are looking for a Nigerian candidate in this election, Atiku better represents that than whom you are referring to The Edo people have always outlines with what they seem is proper. Because we believed the previous administration was horrible, Edo State was the only SS state to vote for Buhari with 45% of the vote in 2015. The Edo man is a free thinker. Oshiobaba performed admirably in his role as governor of the state of Edo, but this does not warrant hero worship on our part. After all, he was chosen to do the job. You may think that AA is a wonderful leader, but he lacks the qualities of great leadership, such as integrity, character, and independence of thought. In contrast to the Yoruba candidate, the Ibo candidate does not present himself as a tribal candidate. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 8:50am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Gaabasky:
U are just an unrepentant tribalist. Afenifere Chairman, Fasoranti, Gani Adam, Alaroye media press and many others that openly pulling Tinubu down just because of Obi are from which tribe? Yoruba that u didn't have regards for consistute more that one third of Obi supporters especially among the youth.
Your assertive on Tinubu is very wrong. Either u are in Kilimanjaro when Tinubu was the Governor or you are too young then to understand. Tinubu lay down a working foundation and build on it by subsequent governors that's what makes him to be different . Many states have copied his memo even some country came to study how Lagos worked. Ask yourself if any dummy can governed and make it works why a state like Anambra the second smallest state high industrial n human potential with high level of literacy and monthly allocation is not working. Or state like Bayelsa with lowest human population and one of the highest receivers of monthly allocation in billions still finding it extremely difficult to pay salary. Worst of it the Delta State that blessed with every things with very huge amount of money Fg is pumping there still borrowing money while her counterpart in River State using the same for visible projects. Although a significant portion of Yorubas are tribalists, despite their best efforts to hide it, we do have well-educated Yorubas who are not tribalists. Like I said earlier, let's imagine the Yoruba candidate was from a different tribe, with his glaring illness, dubious character, lack of sound judgment, and skill. Was there ever a time the Yoruba candidate challenged the existing administration? Yet, all of a sudden, he feels as though he is not in his principal's good graces, which is why he receives the relentless onslaught. It's amusing. Learn about Lagos in what way. What notable initiatives has the government undertaken using the comparatively high IGR? With all the extra resources available to it. Has the government taken any action to address the terrible traffic situation? What about the flooding issue? What about the roads? as well as the "Owomida problem" Stop bringing up the Red line and Blue rail in conversation with me. Lagos should be compared to renowned cities like Dubai based on the amount of revenue it generates each month. No state even comes close to Lagos' level of wealth. What is the IGR's immediate effect on the average person? Everything is packaged. Eko is merely a show. Lagos is home to one of the biggest slums on earth. A Makoko... What can someone possibly learn? |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 8:23am On Feb 24, 2023 |
flokii:
@OP You're not as intelligent as you think..
Yorubas stood firmly behind GEJ when the Northern Aso rock cabals wanted to sideline him after Yar'adua died.. what did the ingrate do? He marginalized Yorubas of all tribes, one of the top two largest ethnic groups in Nigeria. Yoruba elders met him to express their grievances but he ignored them, Yorubas waited patiently for the next election to boot him out with PVCs not with violence or civil disobedience.
This is 2023, you expect Yorubas to support Obi that achieved nothing in Anambra. His first tenure had no infrastructural development whatsoever, the longest strike in the World's history was under Obi, massive sacking of non-Anambra indigenes from Anambra civil servoce, Akwuzu killings and more.. You think Yorubas are as daft as you are?
You just picked someone with many questions and allegations hanging on his head to support because he is your tribesman, yet you have the guts to come and type nonsense about others. Was it not one of your fellow tribesmen who opposed the HOR position being awarded to a person of Yoruba ancestry? to depict the Yoruba as being underrepresented. As I already stated, I'm not campaigning for the Ibo candidate but the Yoruba candidates' antecedents demonstrate that they lack the ability to lead. He has a flawed sense of judgment if we can all agree that the current administration is bad and he was a key figure in bringing it into power. How can we then put our faith in someone to lead us to greatness if they have a flawed sense of judgment? And also with his glaring I’ll-health as well. Like I said, People would prefer to vote for a wheelchair user since he's their tribesman, but don’t hide it behind competence. For a minute, let’s pretend the Yoruba candidate is all competent. For more than a decade, Cristiano Ronaldo averaged more than 40 goals per season. However, the player has changed since then. Therefore, given his track record, as a coach, would you include him on your team? Many would argue that football is different from this one. What a difference! Every role requires as much physical and mental effort as contact sports. Policies and electing the appropriate candidates to government are insufficient to resolve issues. Actualization is required, and this cannot be carried out without guidance and ‘close marking’ . Because he was constantly on and off, President Buhari had some of the best initiatives, but they saw zero actualization. Your so-called best hands carry out their preferred activities when you are not there on the ground. Even Jesus Christ, in his perspective, used the best laborers, and as soon as they left his presence, they were free to carry on as before. Judas Iscariot and Peter serve as examples of this. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 8:20am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Buccalcavity2:
@ Op. You are wrong. A dummy won't do well in Lagos. There's money in Rivers and Akwa Ibom. But Lagos growth has a pattern and thought to it.
Politics aside, I watched the governorship debate of Lagos state and as much as I appreciate all participants on the podium, I'm super impressed with issues being discussed. APC has raised the bar in Lagos state. As compared to Anambra debate, Osun debate...
I don't know why you are always trying to take away from BATs success and praise Fashola and AA, who (@ least Fashola) gave the credit to BAT.
You can't wish away IGR growth, Judicial reforms, LAWMA,LASTMA, BRT, laghoms, Rail, Atlantic City, Seaport, LFTZ, Ikoyi Bridge, LCC.... they were not met in Lagos. They were created. And many stated have copied them.
I think Lagos is still a work in progress but it will be intellectual dishonesty for you to say Lagos is on auto pilot. A dunce, as I have stated, would make a good governor of Lagos State. The current minister of works was anticipated for the position because of his excellent performance as Lagos State Governor. What innovative feat did he accomplish while serving as works minister? Nothing at all. Some topics are off limits to us. What actions have these governments taken to address the 16-year flooding problem? Because of the significant IGR it produces? How come the person who makes man can't pick the best people to duplicate the supposedly tremendous growth that takes place in Lagos in other SW states. Until 1999, Lagos was always a state that other states admired. Why does he only accept compliments when other of his chosen officials' appalling performance is ignored? And as I previously mentioned, he vehemently opposed the reelection of BRF and AA because of his disagreement with them. How can you then claim someone else's project and initiative when you didn't support their methodology at the time? |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 1:27am On Feb 24, 2023 |
LegendHero:
I don’t have time to point you to any line. Anything you call the Yoruba is what we are. No one get time to waste defending anything to just anybody.
You’re free thinker and not campaigning for anyone yet called Yoruba tribalists just because majority of Yoruba chose to vote Tinubu. Can you see how delusional you sound.
I’m 2011 and 2015, Ijaws voted enmasse for Jonathan. Can we now because of that call Ijaw people tribalists? The blatantly disingenuous manner in which it is carried out, concealing behind integrity and expertise, closing the eyes to the obvious flaws. Like the former president of Zimbabwe's wife said, “even if the president uses a wheelchair, people will still elect him” As long as it's their tribesmen contesting, they'll lie about their expertise and integrity to get away with it. You guys need to be straightforward and honest. The Ijaws weren't being hypocritical about it. Nowadays, it should be the best candidate for the position, not The Yoruba vs Everyone. ‘The Yoruba ronu’ slurs, making it appear to be the tribal power play that it is. If the Yoruba candidate is elected, fundamental tribalists like you might even imitate the Apartheid rule in Yoruba states. Some of you all have Apartheid mentalities. I've never heard the phrases "Our Rivers," "Our Anambra," or "Our Delta." Aside from "Our Lagos," tribal epithets! You guys are not even concealing it! Because of comments like “Our Lagos” that’s why “Immigrants” like you all call them fights back with the word “Lagos is a no man’s land” Tribalism is as bad, if not worse than Racism and xenophobia. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 12:45am On Feb 24, 2023 |
LegendHero:
Read between which lines. This abuse is just too much on the Yoruba peopl. Imagine someone from an inconsequential tribe who is even afraid to mention his said tribe openly calling a people from rich culture like the Yoruba tribalists.
If you are Yoruba with all our achievement in all walks of life, you self go wan identify and be a proud Yoruba tribalist.
Lastly, if someone like Soludo is on the ballot, I can vote him. But we Yoruba will never vote a bigot and chronically divisive character like Obi Pandora especially when Obi can’t even point to one transformational development he brought to Anambra when he was governor. I've merely spoken my views. This is a rallying cry to combat tribalism rather than abuse. Tribalism is no different from racism and xenophobia. Moreover, I won't be voting for any candidate. Just my frank assessment. This is how I perceive the Yoruba people, however I could be wrong. Point any lies if you can. P.S. I'm not running a campaign for anyone; this has nothing to do with the Ibo candidate. I'm just a free thinker expressing my opinions. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 12:39am On Feb 24, 2023 |
wegevv:
While I completely agree with your assessment of the APC candidate, I don’t like post like this because there are too many Yoruba people that would rather vote for a piece of wood than vote for the king of thugs.
The sheer amount of propaganda that has been deployed by the man that masterminded the worst federal government in the history of our country is actually incredible.
I almost find it hard to blame the people that have fallen for the tribal baiting and revisionist history. The APC candidate has executed a full on assault on the minds of the Nigerian people.
Still, I’m convinced that most people of all tribes have completely rejected APC and their disgraceful candidate. The only chance they have is their so called structures which is just code for vote-buying, vote-suppression and vote rigging.
But the will of the people is extremely strong this time so I believe we will win. And if we are lucky, APC will be completely humiliated.
These are exciting days. Better times are coming. Vote Obi or literally anyone else but APC ❤️ In a nutshell, the Ibo man isn't even running as a tribal candidate; instead, he's running as a Nigerian candidate, selling himself and his policies, you can say the same of the Yoruba candidate. During a debate I listened to, one of the APC leaders referred to " They come to night buses into our Lagos." This is no different with what Trump did when he was vying for the Presidency, he was appealing to the innate deep rotted Racist nature in White supremacist. My ire even extends to one of my mentors, who I hold in the highest regard, who had backed the Other Yoruba candidate during the Primaries and claimed that the current Yoruba candidate was unfit for the job due to his advanced age and lack of credibility. He is now playing the tribal card everywhere, claiming he’s the greatest leader ever. Supporting your brother is perfectly acceptable, but don't try to mask it with integrity and competence when the evidence clearly shows otherwise. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 12:25am On Feb 24, 2023 |
LegendHero:
Tell us your incosequential tribe name let's start from there.
We agree you are not Nyanmuri but at least you suppose get tribe name.
Wetin dey pain you if Yoruba people be tribalist? Abi no be same Ibo people wey dey cry Biafla country few month ago, if they are not tribalist why they wan leave Nigeria get their own separate country?
So suddenly now because Obi is on the ballot, Igbo man don suddenly turn one Nigeria people wey love all tribe. Same people wey been dey call us Afonja/betrayers and dey call Northerners cow all this while?
I am happy I am a Yoruba tribalist. If your tribe get recognition reach one Yoruba sub-group, you self go dey proud to be your tribe tribalist. I don’t have to spell that out, if you read in between the lines you would know. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 12:22am On Feb 24, 2023 |
LegendHero:
Tell us your incosequential tribe name let's start from there.
We agree you are not Nyanmuri but at least you suppose get tribe name.
Wetin dey pain you if Yoruba people be tribalist? Abi no be same Ibo people wey dey cry Biafla country few month ago, if they are not tribalist why they wan leave Nigeria get their own separate country?
So suddenly now because Obi is on the ballot, Igbo man don suddenly turn one Nigeria people wey love all tribe. Same people wey been dey call us Afonja/betrayers and dey call Northerners cow all this while?
I am happy I am a Yoruba tribalist. If your tribe get recognition reach one Yoruba sub-group, you self go dey proud to be your tribe tribalist. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 12:21am On Feb 24, 2023 |
MightySparrow:
This OP is not realistic at all. I want to think otherwise. Yorubas are more accommodating than Igbos.
Akabueze became commissioner in Lagos state one other fwllow House of Representatives. How many can boast of same treatment in any SE states? In our markets, you hardly can see Igbos traders employing other tribes rather would go to his village.
The kind of large heart government ran by OBJ cannot be from any Igbo leader.
Stupid people Lagos has been ahead other places in Nigeria before almagamation. It was a meeting place between local and Portuguese trades who gave the place Lagos. It was the seat of government during colonial era.
That Igbo build Lagos is a stupid assertion.
Why can't they build their own lands? A curse?
Igbos are intrinsically selfish that apart from gain's they make in the host communities nothing more you can gain.
To add salt to injury, they begin to abuse their hosts. Ingrate people.
They want what they cannot offer. How many people go to Igbo land for greener pastures?
Who wouldn't build in Igbo land if they are that friendly?
The OP is simply an idiot. I never said that they are amicable. In my perspective, the Ibos are inherently self-centered and selfish. They are not hypocrites; they can only put their best foot forward for profit. The Ibo candidate is not being marketed as a tribal candidate like the Yoruba candidate is. Talk about the Edo people if you want to discuss a detrabalized tribe. Only in Yoruba area will a trader become enraged with you because you are speaking pidgin; she doesn't care if you aren't speaking Yoruba as long as she can lose that transaction. This is a unique personal experience. Only in Yoruba territory do people refer to you as "Omo Ibo," even if you are not Ibo. OBJ is a detribalized leader, that’s the reason a large number of Yorubas don’t like him. Just the way the North likes their leaders hardcore Muslims, the Yorubas like their leaders hardcore tribalist. |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 12:11am On Feb 24, 2023 |
Heavensent01:
you emotional cretin, all Yorubas endorse success over failure, we witness and hear how Anambra suffer under peter obi govt, which sane human will want him to replicate that in Nigeria?
you fools elected ikpeazu despite his failure you reelected him again after queuing to collect 2 litres of kerosene
you born by mistake can't be publicly endorsing Your incompetent kinsman and want Yoruba to abandoned a man that have helped Nigerians across tribe line
Yoruba are voting In mass for Tinubu on Saturday and some Northerners who want the best for their states will do same
over Non igbo dead body will peter obi be Nigeria president Your bigotry just jumped right out. What I noticed about these guys is that anyone that has a differing opinion would be termed ‘Ibo’. This isn’t just online, but also offline. SMH |
| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 12:08am On Feb 24, 2023 |
3ple9iner:
All what you are saying doesn't make sense if you can't tell us how Peter Obi as a governor for 8 years is better than Tinubu's 8 years as governor.
It's also very funny how you expect Obi to get 80%+ vote from a tribe who before now wished for the end of Nigeria, called Nigeria different names, insulted other Tribes and threatened to take the lands of other Tribes and killed people who don't have same view with them and coincidentally are his tribes me, and you called them Nationalist but calling another tribe who are voting for a candidate from there ethnic group tribalist.
We should stop all these and let everyone support anyone.
If with the way you campaign about Obi and he wins but things don't workout well for people I'm sure you would leave everyone to their faith. They only desired to leave the union with Nigeria because of their marginalization, both politically and socially. They are considered as second-class citizens, and to make matters worse, some government officials made some provocative remarks. Nnamdi Azikiwe, an Ibo man, was one of the key figures in the pre-independence scene. He teamed up with Obafemi Awolowo to secure Nigeria's independence, but they are now entirely ignored in the grand scheme of things. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs Barcelona : Europa League (2 - 1) On 23rd Feb 2023 by Vado2: 11:08pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
Thank you manure. Make I use this small thing take hold body small. 
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| Politics › Re: My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 8:30pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
Workch:
Omo, fear majority of Yorubas but all of them are not like that.
I use to think that they are very enlightened until this whole election things started. Them fall hand, many of them allowed tribal bigotry buy their conscience.
We all know that Tinubu is the worst of all the major contenders but will tribalism allow them agree?
Peter Obi is winning anyways I must admit that I was rather disappointed. There were several people I admired much. I am quite disappointed. even my local pastor. A lot about people were revealed in this election. |
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| Politics › My Honest Take On The 2023 General Elections. by Vado2(op): 7:37pm On Feb 23, 2023 |
With this general election, I must admit that a lot has changed in terms of my viewpoint. Even among those who are educated, tribalism and hypocrisy are Nigeria's biggest problems.
I had a preconceived impression about the Ibos before the election that they were the most tribally inclined people on earth, but I was completely wrong. Although they may occasionally fight with other tribes, they are not a bunch of hypocrites.
There is no group of people more tribalistic than the Yorubas. Simply because a candidate is your brother doesn't make it wrong to vote for him. Jonathan had a similar treatment from the South South. But concealing it behind the pretense that he built Lagos, I guess that stinks. Lagos already existed before The Yoruba Candidate entered politics. They "Say omo-Ibo" go back to Anambra when you attempt to engage them in intellectual conversations. Individuals work hard to make money; nobody is paid by the state, and neither are we given free rides or water. Just ask the Yoruba candidate's supporters what he did while he was a governor, and they'll start discussing initiatives that other governors have undertaken. And guess what he did not get along with these governors, like BRF and AA for instance, he even fought against their reelection.
He suddenly made a route for them. Why does his supporters give him credit to the governors of Lagos State but not to the governors he puts on other Yoruba states who perform appallingly?? such as the former governor of Osun and the current governor of Ogun State?
A dummy would do well as Lagos Governor. Lagos already had one of the biggest economy in Africa before 1998
They began playing the tribal card "Our Lagos" as soon as it was clear that people could see through their lies. the same Lagos that was built by Niger-Delta Oil. Even the elites exhibit hypocrisy when they start uttering "Yoruba ronu" and "Omo-ale." Imagine for a second that the Yoruba candidate came from a different tribe; the world wouldn't have heard enough.
Brilliant thinkers, like Wole Soyinka, would have spoken up and even funded protests to stymie the candidacy, but since he is their son, everyone has been silent.
What about the religious leaders?
In the church, some of them had already established a political department, but everything changed when their favorite candidate lost the primary. The Church has now adopted a neutral stance after initially showing signs of active participation. Currently, they are idly perched and using parables to communicate.
The Yorubas are the only tribe I've observed that is overtly tribalistic. That is complete.
Their leaders are doing this by appealing to their ingrained tribalism. Nobody can conceal it. Although not all Yorubas are like way, this is my honest assessment of them. This is not meant as a slight against the decent, at peace, and wise Yoruba people. Nigeria is for everyone, and this is merely a belligerent cry to look above ingrained tribalism. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I Sustain My Relationship With God by Vado2(op): 5:27pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
Thank you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I Sustain My Relationship With God by Vado2(op): 3:00pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:
It is a learning and growing and growing and learning process which is driven by how much you really want God.
But it is difficult at the first because there are so many many things you have to learn first which will show you who you really are.
And after that, you would see and decide for yourself whether you truly want to follow God or stay where you are.
So as I said, it is like this at the beginning but if you open your eyes and observe what is going on as you have observed this phenomenon of loving God and sliding back, depending on how knowledgeable you are about the Bible events, you would see many many things, which is going to affect your decision
But however, I do say choosing to follow God is the bestest decision you can ever make.
It is also a very very hard journey and everyone, (your family, friends, neighbours) will hate you and curse you and set hot and wicked traps for you. Beautiful Girls/Women (Satan's most important weapon) will come for you.
And in all these, it is still going to get difficult and difficulter.
BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THESE, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT GOD IS REAL AND THAT HIS WORDS ARE ACCURATELY TRUE, IF you have learnt what He is teaching.
So get ready to learn about God, Satan, yourself and people. That is some of the things you are supposed to be learning.
Tip. Read The Laws in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy and the stories of those whose lives are similar to yours in the Bible and see what happens to them and what God Said about them.
But most importantly OBSERVE AND LEARN WHAT GOES ON AROUND YOU AND INSIDE YOU. I sincerely appreciate the time you took to do this. I would abide by your advice. Would it be possible for you to serve as my accountability partner, if possible? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I Sustain My Relationship With God by Vado2(op): 2:09pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:
That is why people are by nature never God's children.
So hard Truth, whose child are you if you are not Gods child?
You are Satan's!
Hence the ease of committing sins and the difficulty of doing evil.
Hence the reason why Satan fights God continually and continuously because he already has you.
That is one of the hard Truths you would have to face, for an evil and sinfilled fruit means an evil and sinfilled tree.
Hence you are applying to be God's Child and until you change, you have not been born again.
So right now you are just pursuing born again. but you are not yet there Thank you for your input, Dtruthspeaker. How do I really experience being born-again and grow in my desire for God? I wouldn't say I lead a sin-filled life; I don't have any passion addictions, but I have found that when I lose my relationship with God, I am miserable and lack motivation to do anything. I often sin because it helps me feel better when I'm unhappy. I don't turn away from God because of sin, but I do feel a general loss of interest that, to be really honest, has absolutely no underlying cause. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I Sustain My Relationship With God by Vado2(op): 1:34pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:
1. Joshua was called according to God's Old Law of Moses - the National Constitution of the State of Israel in the Land of Canaan - given by God to the people of Israel for living in the Land - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Jesus Christ never told you to follow that Law since He came to call you to a different Kingdom entirely, so why would you think that it makes sense to do as Joshua did and not as Jesus Christ instead says you should - John 15 vs 14 ? 
2. You claim you have been studying and meditating for so long, so why hasn't all that yielded actual results as far as obedience of that which God infact commands of you to do? Why are you still engaging in rituals that have absolutely nothing to do with that which He commands of you? This since you believe so much that meditating is the way to obedience.  Thank you so much, Kobojungle for your input so far. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I Sustain My Relationship With God by Vado2(op): 1:24pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:
1. But Jesus Christ never said that you should read your Bible in order to be close to Him. And Jesus Christ never said you could pray your way into a relationship with God? Also, Jesus Christ never said you make God's word real to get it to show -- whatever that means. Instead, what Jesus Christ said is that it is those who live their lives in submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments- God's Law and Truth aka the Gospel- that belong to Him - John 14 vs 15 - 20 - and it is only those people who He loves - John 15 vs 9 - 11.
So how certain are you that the one doing the directing of your life is God since God is not a liar, or is He?
2. So, you need to keep to these rituals of yours for this God to continue to direct you? When you stop engaging in the rituals, the God also stops and everything begins to suffer? Again, what makes you believe the God you speak of is the Fathe who never even asked for any of the rituals you listed?
3. In Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15, Jesus Christ gave explicit instructions to His followers on How to Pray, complete with a prayer designed by God Himself for you to recite when you need to pray to Him. Are you not able to maybe start by actually doing that which God commands rather than engaging in rituals which He never asked for?
By the way, if you finally decide to obey Jesus Christ be certain that suffering and tribulation are bound to follow. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I Sustain My Relationship With God by Vado2(op): 1:23pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:
1. But Jesus Christ never said that you should read your Bible in order to be close to Him. And Jesus Christ never said you could pray your way into a relationship with God? Also, Jesus Christ never said you make God's word real to get it to show -- whatever that means. Instead, what Jesus Christ said is that it is those who live their lives in submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments- God's Law and Truth aka the Gospel- that belong to Him - John 14 vs 15 - 20 - and it is only those people who He loves - John 15 vs 9 - 11.
So how certain are you that the one doing the directing of your life is God since God is not a liar, or is He?
2. So, you need to keep to these rituals of yours for this God to continue to direct you? When you stop engaging in the rituals, the God also stops and everything begins to suffer? Again, what makes you believe the God you speak of is the Fathe who never even asked for any of the rituals you listed?
3. In Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15, Jesus Christ gave explicit instructions to His followers on How to Pray, complete with a prayer designed by God Himself for you to recite when you need to pray to Him. Are you not able to maybe start by actually doing that which God commands rather than engaging in rituals which He never asked for?
By the way, if you finally decide to obey Jesus Christ be certain that suffering and tribulation are bound to follow. Joshua, 1:8, says otherwise. Joshua was the one through whom God expressly said that we are to study and meditate on God’s instructions all day and all night. How can we obey God's commandments if we don't meditate on them? It was your understanding of God's words, the result of thoroughly digesting his words that caused you to reference some parts for me to go back and read. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I Sustain My Relationship With God by Vado2(op): 1:11pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
Mod please push this to front page thanks. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I Sustain My Relationship With God by Vado2(op): 1:10pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
MITCHELL96:
This is the best post I've seen on Nairaland I'm a long time, not all these sexual related topics.
OP, first of all, you have to keep that relationship with God very intimate. How do you deal with someone/something you love so much and really want to keep?
Sheabi, you take all manner of measures to keep, protect or save that particular thing or person?
Now, all you have to do is cut all manner of distractions, because you saying one minute you're praying, the other minute, you're sinning. This means you're been distracted and you've not really surrounded yourself enough with things that will shield and fight for you when temptation come.
Read your Bible, pray in the morning and in the night before you go to bed, avoid having a girlfriend, your chances of committing sexual sins are high when you have a girlfriend or you're with a girl. Greetings, Mitchelle, and thanks for your reply. The main issue is that as days wears on, I lose focus. This may not even be sin, but rather the fact that my mind becomes so overpowering that it becomes my primary distraction rather than passion habits. The difficulty I have is maintaining the momentum. I am happiest when I have a strong relationship with God, but somehow, as the week goes on, it dwindles. How to maintain momentum is beyond me. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Can I Sustain My Relationship With God by Vado2(op): 12:56pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:
1. Describe what you mean by being extremely close to God one minute.
2. Define this close relationship you claim is with God. Because what you describe does not read any different from what one who does not believe also feels when he/she is centered emotionally and mentally. In the sense that I study the Bible, pray, and make God's words real, and it shows . He directs every step of my life, so I can feel it in myself. However, after sometime , my desire for close companionship wanes.For example, I haven't read God's word or even prayed all week. In times like these, everything around me suffers, including my own motivation and activity. I'm feeling so restless in the spirit that I'm unable to even pray. |
