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samistry:
MFT should also be cut. Why did we have to suffer seven months of that stale ass feud?
Fake Karrion Kross and Scarlet have also been released.
I don't know how Apollo Crews survived so many roster cuts before now. Nikkita Lyons escape this time.

but don't worry, Cargill is still very much employed and better than these guys.

samistry:
If you were able to comprehend what I wrote without being babyfed, you'd know I won't.

You'd watch things without jumping to conclusions straight away? Shocking.

you're the one who lacks comprehension. You should never have referenced them no matter what; since you did it before (and even before that) you'd probably do it again and give another excuse. But since you said you won't, e don end.

Don't be. I've never concluded without watching.

samistry:
Good thing is I always have receipts.
Bad thing for those who admit they don't watch, lack comprehension but are ever in the mood to argue.
I already explained myself about the Willow vs Kamille match. Folks on reddit were dunking on that match. Cagematch only validated opinions I saw on Reddit. A sub which is kinder to AEW.

You can say reddit and twitter have biased takes. Aggregate the sources and come up with your opinions.
I've already presented two reports earlier that proved cagematch can be flawed. It's not absolute objectivity as you propose.

By the way. Another stinker match dropped on Dynamite this week. I didn't need cagematch or reddit to know bcoz I watched the show unlike you .

dude, it's simple, since Cagematch isn't legit don't reference them anymore.

Don't worry, I'll watch it and I'll have my objective view.

CoolUsername:
The fact that you came up with an opinion on your own doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

no one's requesting you to. But at least respect it.

samistry:
If you're referencing the 3 star match Willow and Kamille had on cagematch. Folks were already shi*ting on that match on reddit. On a sub that leaned much towards AEW.
I called out cagematch last year on this thread when the TNA controversy came out.
I no know which hypocrisy you dey refer

pick a side! Are you referencing it in the future or not?

CoolUsername:
When have I ever not dunked on Cagematch? Cagematch wishes it was propaganda, it's actually just a circlejerk of dorks that nobody cares about. It doesn't move the needle in anyway.
I have a simple rule, if you didn't watch it, your opinion on it is disregarded.
The reason why I don't take your opinions seriously is because you don't watch (or at least claim not to), get all your info from smark sources like Cagematch and then think parroting the opinions of dorks on the shit you didn't watch should hold any weight.

Deal, i don't have an opinion and probably won't not until I watch it in the future. My point is she should do it again and again and again; and if she can't then most likely Jade Cargill sucks.
I'm not a fan, but if it's news worthy I'll see it. When Cargill won her first title I watched it and even gave her compliments (Samistry can bear me witness) but I watched others and they weren't impressive. At least you need to be consistent for me to believe that you've actually improved so I hold my opinion till I see change.

And no, you don't take me seriously because I said gimmicks and storylines don't work - my completely independent opinion, that's why I called you a hypocrite. It doesn't matter what I do, you'll condemn it.

samistry:
What is this one saying or do you like arguing for argument sake? Folks were down voting and trolling TNA show last year to a hyperbolic degree. It got so bad the mods there had to put measures in place.

There was another incident there with folks trolling over summerslam last year.
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=555&nr=2772

That means it's not "100% unbiased" without flaws as a group of bad actors can band together to influence decisions.
Imagine folks rating Evil NJPW matches 6.66 just for the lols.

You can view historical data of who wrestled who and when but don't take it as the 100% perfect accurate review. It's same for movie review sites too.

I use reddit and twitter to gauge reactions more than cagematch.

so Reddit and twitter guys are not bias and political, as toxic as the IWC is? Fine, post your reverred reactions.

CoolUsername:
I don't care about or need a "legit" platform to tell me how to feel about a match I watched.
That said, Cagematch is not a revered platform. It is a small number of pro wrestling smarks circlejerking their favourites. If you didn't watch the match, cool. You just don't get to have an opinion about it that can be taken seriously by me and Cagematch is not a replacement for that.

I haven't even had an opinion. My first claim was even if it was good, it was probably just heavily choreographed and she had a pro to follow hence she may not be able to replicate it. Then I checked Cagematch (a reverred platform) and saw a 6. You guys say it's propaganda but still can't bring a non-propaganda platform to juxtapose; gaslighting much? And to end the argument, it doesn't matter if I watched the match and gave my true to God honest opinion because at the end of the day no one takes me serious right?
It's also funny how you guys reference Cagematch when it suits your agenda but call it political when it doesn't. Hypocrite much?

samistry:
Let's not act like cagematch is 100% legit without troll or bias. Remember the TNA fiasco last year?

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/1m64dux/cagematchnet_releases_a_statement_regarding_the

93 people cannot be biased now, haba. Oya bring the unbiased now let's examine it. You guys cannot continue to mention problems without at least preferring solutions.

CoolUsername:
Bro rest. It's obvious you didn't even watch the match. You first did everything to avoid giving Jade Cargill any credit, now you've resorted to using Cagematch (a small of group of forks) ratings as a crutch

it's not like if I watch and drop my opinion you'd respect it anyway, and now when a reverred platform drops theirs you still want to find a way to deligitimize them. Drop your legit platform now you dey gaslight.

CoolUsername:
Legit platform? How about having an independent opinion?

well I independently think Cagematch is legit. You can independently think otherwise but I'll independently disagree.

CoolUsername:
The fact that they've been doing it for years and still can't get more than 93 voters is honestly embarrassing

this is just straw grasping. Oya bring the legit platform now let's compare.

CoolUsername:
Because a site where regular people can rate matches but has such little turnout is not an authoritative or representative source by any stretch of the imagination.

well then create or pick your authoritative source. They've been doing it for years and many people like them and respect their opinion.
And 93 is not little.

CoolUsername:
Lol 93 votes

so?

pu7pl3:
Wrestling is choreographed, all those flips you love from Ospreay are all choreographed
Wetin you Wan educate me on? You just like your silly arguments. And believing something doesn't make it true, you have no fighting experience and you don't train, Cargill will wipe the floor with you.

did I lie in what I said? Historically is what I said wrong about the game, that's the question.

You don't even know anything about me. And fighting Cargill proves nothing, are we talking boxing or we're talking pro-wrestling?

pu7pl3:
Every match is choreographed.
If you want to know if she can box in real life maybe go and face her and find out.

guy know your history. Wrestling matches didn't used to be choreographed, except it was the spot for a story. It was like 80% not choreographed. As the years went by, wrestling became trash. Randy and Ricky should be thanked for that.

Without choreography doesn't mean the fights should be real (maybe I need to educate you guys a bit on this), and I believe I'll beat her in a real fight.

samistry:
They haven't strictly enforced brandsplit rules in terms of superstars hopping across shows for awhile now. However, crossbranded title challenges are a rarity unless Jacob Fatu has joined Raw.

he can't join Raw and no one will know about it. First Cody comes in, now Jacob. And the Raw roster will be looking like mumu.

What's the need for seperate rosters if they can just show up anyone anytime and give title shots?

pu7pl3:
She is not a total shit like you keep implying. She is alright.

I can't confidently say that until I see substantial evidence. 1 most likely heavily choreographed match isn't enough for me.

samistry:
Who tf would wear this?

it was to be worn? Wow. I'm just realising. It might shock us though.

samistry:
Time must be made for the real catalyst of the women's revolution, Stephanie Mcmahon. They also had to tribute the best NWO member, Rodzilla.

bad decisions after bad decisions even when the alleged bad decision maker is no longer there. Things like these are why I stopped supporting.

samistry:
We've bickered about MJF, that's true. Ah...Partial amnesia is contagious after all.

My bad candidate still perform better than your good candidate and 3/4 of the four horsemen.
Funny how non of em get the 6 rating. Maybe they weren't up to par that day.
Folks on twitter and reddit said it was a good match. Jade even hit the one wing angel😌.

whatever reason you think they had a bad match is left for you. One night in 2 completely different matches and situations isn't enough for me to change my stance on wrestlers I've seen wrestle for years.

Why? Toilet paper is cheaper.

WWE did Psycho Sid dirty.

samistry:
I was pointing out your hypocrisy. Kamille had a stinker on Dynamite but not a peep from you because you're a good little AEW soldier.

Meanwhile, Jade had a better match on a show with 3/4 of the four horsewomen.
You first say na choreography, na now 6.
Why the other women no get am?
Calmly lie down, take the big fat L on this one

are we talking about Dynamite that happened last week or Mania that just happened yesterday? What kind of deflection is this?
I criticise AEW matches and wrestlers regularly, sometimes you don't even agree with me on them.

You're saying it was best match, as if it's something to be proud of that the best women's match of the biggest event of the year is a 6.🤦🏿‍♂️

I haven't moved any goal post, I stand with everything I said.

And no matter how much you try, Paige is still a better wrestler than Cargill. And until I see substantial evidence otherwise, I'm not changing my opinion.

samistry:
The worst no talent female wrestler had the best women's match this mania. Meanwhile where the best wrestle drop stinker last Dynamite.
Take the L in peace and move on Bruv.

abegi, deflector. Are we talking about AEW or Jade Cargill? See what you're saying. Na only 6 the match be wey you no gree make we hear word since.

The match you're making noise about is just 6 on Cage Match. Na wa o.

samistry:
So Paige been no get 3 pros to follow?
The goal post dn move now to choreography. I kneel down for your escape maneuver ability

Which goal post again.
Just prep. Backlash dey come.

samistry:
So why the AEW fans no rave about talented Zack as you proffer? They said he only stood by his sister like a mute.

bro, ask yourself; how many hours of choreography will it have taken for Jade to pull that match off? It's her biggest match of the year, and she has a pro to follow; she'll most likely have heavily choreographed it to look good. Now let her wrestle without choreography (hmm).

Since you say she's now good, we're waiting for Friday night Smackdown and Backlash. If she no perform you go hear am.

samistry:
So why the AEW fans no rave about talented Zack as you proffer? They said he only stood by his sister like a mute.

yeah. That's how bad Jade is.

samistry:
I don't see why Michin deserves to get over.
Holding a kendo stick isn't a character. She's a good hand at the end of the day but would I buy tickets to see her? Nope.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/michin-i-have-problem-connecting-crowd-i-m-still-trying-figure-out-what-my-character/

Why didn't Paige have a better match at mania despite being in ring with Charlotte, Bayley and Lyra? . Afterall, It's easier to hide the flaws in a tag than singles one on one match

I've talked about this. You're taking me back.
Paige is better than her. And I'm sure Zack is aswell.