₦airaland Forum

freshest4live:
1.9 dollars which is about 600 naira or at least 400 naira in 2015 would feed you well in the north, these people also have the largest populations and they are usually farmers. The north is the food belt area of the nation. You have lived in Nigeria yourself and you should know better.

which part of the north will that peanut feed. Is it north central. Nasarawa , benue ,kaduna ,kwara ,kogi ,jos or north west kano ,jigawa. Or what？

uzzyfire:
dude how many times do we have to say this, ITS A POPULATION THING!!!!!!!! a giant country can Neva have a better HDI than a small country .

for goodness sake Norway has a better HDI than america

lol so you are not as smart as i am thinking. germany is the most populated country in the EU behind russia. it perform well above france with almost population size and uk . infact germany human development index is better than uae ,bahrain ,qatar ,austria , finland and many smaller country.

obaaderemi:
A NI O GO PUPO,o go gan ni o. So you don't know aramco pays over 90%(i didn't even know it was more than 83%)as tax. Here is your reference,Dindinrin http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/10/news/companies/saudi-arabia-aramco-oil-ipo/ So what is left after paying 90% as tax?That's why aramco is being valued at just $400bn in some quarters.But u started by saying aramco is 3 times richer than nigeria.So because samsung earns a$300bn,then it is richer than saudi arabia whose govt revenue is a paltry $190bn?Didinrin agbalagba.

sugomu supo. Wikipedia put aramco revenue on 311billion dollars and value the net worth of aramco to be over 10 trillion dollar. My question is this to you apoda omo kekere. If nigeria finish its expenditure from 54 billion dollar revenue how much will be left out. Saudi arabia is richer than samsung even if it earn 300billion dollar. Saudi arabia gdp stand at 1 trillion dollar. Have you seen pe olodo ni e.

obaaderemi:
An illiterate like you who decided to compare a country and a company should know that GDP will be used for the country while REVENUE would be used for the company and in my post which u just requoted i said 'gdp'.so u dont know that after paying 83% of its $118bn revenue as tax, aramco gets less than $40bn in a year?'Akuri',that's what we call people like you in Yoruba.

e wo nkan ti ode yii tun so. Oponu so iwe nu. Ni won pe iru eyan bi ti e. You want to sound right by all means but you lied here again. Give me your reference not an assumption. Nigeria generate revenue likewise aramco. Do you know how much it will be left behind after nigeria dispose its expenditure from its 54billion dollar revenue. A aramco earn more and pay less tax if you dont know. Ma ko e.

obaaderemi:
Ori e ti daru.you said aramco is larger than nigeria's economy.have you forgotten what u posted and i simply asked you to prove how.you are a shameless liar.If u must argue do it with dignity.Bloody illiterate who doesn't know the difference between a country's economy and its govt's revenue.I will look for the nonsense you posted and quote it directly for all to see how big a stuupid liar you are.Eranko.

How is Aramco three times richer than Nigeria when aramco,s revenue is lower than nigeria's gdp?unless you want to talk about per capita,which doesn't apply here because aramco is a company like the othernigerian guy already pointed out to you.Post links and stop sounding like a broken record.Yet you called yourself a Nigerian and you could sink this low to mudsling your own country. (quote)Inkan ti olodo e post ni yi o. You even claim nigeria is earning more in revenue than aramco which i expose your ignorance.olodo alako gbagbe ni e.in hausa we will say u are suffring from iskoki.

Post the link which gives nigeria's gdp as$56bn if you can.if you cant,then you are shameless and a liar.at least everyone can see how a grown man like you is disgracing himself like an illiterate almajiri on an open forum,even your ghanaian and kenyan friends can see your folly.No hiding place for you.You got into the market Unclad. Na wetin your dumb head post be dat. Asking me to post the revenue of aramco . You even say nigeria earn more revenue. Olodo alako gbagbe. In hause statement we will say you are suffering from iskoki.

obaaderemi:
I believe you are abnormal.Your own link shows nigeria's gdp is $492bn!Are you not ashamed of yourself?even kenya's and ghana's revenue is more than $56bn.I am so happy everyone can see how you have disgraced yourself.At least the kenyans were decorous.We are still waiting for your proof that nigeria's revenue is 56bn and lower than aramco's revenue.you've been exposed for the illiterate and liar you are.

ori eleyi o pe. Who is talking about GDP HERE. You said revenue abi you dont forget. Olodo rabata. And i put it to you that aramco earn more revenue than nigeria. By every measurement. Aramco is too rich than nigeria. Banza ni

arinzeejikonye:
There ain't no cog on the wheel nor did I change the starring, we on course bro,



People emigrate and immigrate, whether there is growth or not, for myriads of uncountable issues,


Nigeria's peculiarity in her diversity should not be a determinant to her prosperity, but for bad leadership, the reverse have been the case, if we record 2 consecutive negativity for 2 quarters within a year, then we are into recession, this is not the first time we are in recession, but for how long it lasts and how to renavigate our way out of it is the contention, as a matter of fact Nigeria double digit inflation is one of a kind, this is comparable to that of 1980s,based on past precedence, we are bound to experience recession in at least every seven years,

So it has not been all rosy for Nigeria either, remember many years of kakistocratic militocracy,




You mentioned Singapore, remember they were part of old Malaysia, they were defragmented out of the Union, in the1960s,lee kwan yew, Harped on human capital development, seaports, reverse technology, startups, and continuity, they kept doing same thing over and over with a trajectory of a lay down vision today they are ahead of Malaysia,



So Nigeria needs to restructure, it is indispensable for our progress,


You rightly stated that in the time past Ghanaians were educated over here, that's true, for now I guess Nigeria is in her Renaissance era of rebirth, to right her wrongs too,



Ghana must be careful not to sacrifice quality for monetary gratification, in as much as her private institutions want profit maximization, they should up their game, some of this foreign Nigerian students, couldn't meet up the cut off mark back home, but they are given admission on a platter of gold in the gold coast

hi bro. ghana is not an exemption of hard times and military dictatorship. i can tell you that ghana hard times is not what any nigeria man we pray for. authough it is history now but it can never be forgetton.

yes singapore was not a rich country when it was dissolve from malaysia. they face hard times similar to what it is comparable to ghana but overcome it becuse of visionary leadership and good policy.

ghana leader are engaging in postive policy, mindblowing law to relax business process to make the country progress and flourish.and this executive order is working. nigerians ,indians ,lebanese are trouping in thousands to benefit from it.

ghana private uni is not weak . i say. admission process may be easy but it does not mean the tuttion is not of high standard. so many nigeria private uni might be too cheap in qulity education. the purpose of extablishing many nigeria private school is to raise profit and nothing more .in nigeria priv uni admission is flexible. Remember ghana has a public uni which admission process is even more difficult for a nigeria standard. Authough am not in support of stiff admission process. Education should be for all.

uzzyfire:
plsss abeg in wat area can u even compare Ghana to Nigeria .

and plss don't start calling human index

human index is the basic of development. if there is no human development then what do you called development.

arinzeejikonye:
True that, however,


I guess ghana and her camaraderie of socio-economic interconnectivity with Nigeria is expanding in its elasticity,


But you got to give it up for Nigeria,,
Despite economic Recession, hyperinflation, ultra devaluation of naira, terrorism, herdsmen clashes, malfeasance,, ethnographic quagmire, etc she is still breading with an unrestructured fiscal make up,



Ghana should take advantage, of the offer, while stock last, because when Nigeria outlives her Renaissance, the rebound will be unquanifible, inexplicablly incommensurate and immeasurable to ghana,



On education, the private institutions are filling the lacuna, dug by public institutions, watch out for covenant uni with target to be best top 10 in the world by2022

i initially enjoy the conversation but it seems you are changing the wheel.

the hardship ghana face during the late 60.70.80 has never been experience in nigeria before even up tiil date. this was when ghanian were flocking into nigeria in search of greener pasture. so nigeria recession or current calamity should not be used as excuse.

ghana is an average country not a rich country like nigeria .yet it has an intention of world class development. this is the dream of singapore when it started. ghana policy is too strong and effective to be taken out easily. if the policy still continue and nigeria poor policy continue. Am sorry to tell you. Ghana may soon become the next dubai of west africa.

now to the education. i quite agree with you. that some of the nigeria student in ghana are those who could not face the rigorous nigeria selection system. if i may ask what is the importance in making education difficult？ no advance country do that.but your assumption is not absolute. many nigerians are here in seach of quality education too. There are good private university in ghana too. Ashesi uni is one ,central uni is another. This university also aim to become the best citadel of learning. Also note in mind that the process of selection may be easy that does not mean the tuttion is not up to standard.

forgiveness:
@bolded got me cracking. Shuuuu! If Nigerians themselves can't live, abeg, na who dey live dere now?

Sha, na monkey!?

Bhuuuhahaha!

what am using here is figure of speech. few nigerians can accomodate the luxury of abuja. accra is a capital city it is both home to the poor and rich likewise darkar,nairobi ,yaounde,and lome.

arinzeejikonye:
Now you are making a lot of sense, what infuriated me was the misrepresentation of facts from your side,

I am not holding brief for the instigator of the state country banter, but I feel that sharpvielle comparism came about owing to to fact that lagos is a economic powerhouse on the continent, and the undisputed epicenter of economic hub in the West African region, hence the comparison with ghana,


Nigeria should have done better truly, but past maladministrations of militocracy, misgovernance at state levels, and the cancerous corruption dealt us a big blow.,




We must Forge ahead nonetheless, some people see lagos as the alpha and omega of Nigeria, forgetting other hot spots

i agree with you. you should also note that ghana economic progress is also very relevant now. Nigerians business men recognized it. And they are moving in and extablishing their companies to benefit from it. Lagos is west africa business power house no doubt. Accra too has taken a position in west africa that can never be overlook. We as africa should be able to tolerate each other and welcome diffrences.

there a lot of ways both countries can forge toghether to strenghten their economy. ghana is tapping into the nigeria entertainment industry. nigerians are tapping into ghana education system. base on my calculation. About 5percent of nigerian graduate are educated in ghana. So i dont see why there should be issues.

Joonana:
lol .. i got to know about this Giant of Africa thing while in Nigeria .. i used to ask my colleagues what made them the giant and what are they proud of .. somehow the population makes them giant; it plays in their favour sometimes .. Nigerians like it when you massage their ego, so they feel great and good about themselves. they are at liberty to massage their own ego ..

good point dear.

arinzeejikonye:
Everyone is entitled to his opinion bro,


My concern is the misrepresentation of facts, you were here saying ghana got the largest mall, the biggest it hub, the gateway to West Africa, Tema port, being the most boisterous, Accra overtaking lagos, the other guy saying ghana got the biggest medical hub, in the region etc, all these are some of the fallacies, I am debunking over here, hope you dig,


Before you eulogies ghana's achievement make proper research and investigation,


Nigeria needs to restructure, no matter the leaders in power if we don't, we are bound to retrograde, however we must equally hold our leaders accountable,


Gratias.

am here comparing what is on ground. the bane of discussion here is ghana is too poor to be compare with lagos talkless of nigeria. which i counter argue that is a poor assumption. bringing fact and not fallacy as you point out. Ghana is a developing country likewise nigeria.both still needs development in order to be labelled a world class standard.

i belive as a nigeria and with anount of natural endowwrment we have we should be compare to east asia and not ghana. due to poor policy and weak management. nigeria development is not encouraging.

yes nigeria needs restructuring as one of the solution to better utilize the resources of the country. ghana is learning from nigeria mistake

arinzeejikonye:
Now I see how you are readjusting your premise,

You started out lashing at Nigeria from all cylinder, pitching Accra with lagos at parity, as if Ghana is the next best thing after slice bread,


We had to counter you, before you reneged and began to counterbalance your points.




The crux of my submission is that you should be unbiased in your opinions

lol self defeating statement. am unbiased in my post. i only defeat the asumption that nigeria is really giant and can beat out ghana in any comparism apart from population wise.

arinzeejikonye:
So your point is meaningful, since three dubai styled flyovers means Accra has overtaken lagos init?


So what if it is the highest, does Accra have the longest?


Do you know that about three flyovers are equally nearing completion in lagos,


Does Accra have a cable stayed flyover bridge,


Gee, Accra is good but be balanced in your assertions

what are you driving toward. i base my argument on your conclustion that lagos is not stoping. i prove it to you that accra too is running. Lagos has the longest yes accra now has the highest. This position are not permanet. Becuse even togo can overtake it. Well ghana still has an advantage which is missing in nigeria. Positive leaders with quality leadership.

arinzeejikonye:
When it comes to number of flyovers, bridges and interchanges Accra is nowhere close to lagos,


Dude so because Accra is building about three new fine interchanges, it then amounts to that she has overtaken lagos, that is ludicrous and preposterous bro,


The 3rd mainland bridge came with almost 4 interchanges and has been with us since 1991,


The 4th mainland will be having about 8 interchanges I hope they wil be sophisticated too,


One thing you don't realise is that the world of architecture is ruled by dynamism, things change from time to time, the interchanges built in the ear of towards new millenia is not same for today, so we keep improving.

your point is meaningless bro. you said lagos is alive and i also prove to you accra is not sleeping. accra current dubai style fly over is the highest in west africa currently. even benin may overtake the position tommorrw. Accra too will not be sleeping. One very good advantage of ghana is that it has a rich policy with leader of good mindset. Which is missing in nigeria. Unless nigeria goverment can cover that lapses.

uzzyfire:
no bro , it's becos by then every under going construction from city to refinery will be completed and its proceeds will skyrocket Lagos GDP

you are not saying the truth. Many rural dweller will migrate from their town,to urban lagos becuse of the new development which can not satisfy the lagosians themselves. Lagos state will experience much population becuse of its mortality rate. Abuja the cosmetic city with no histrorical fact might likely reduce becuse it is build to accomodate first class nigerians and not whole nigeria. The only african capital nigerians themselves can not live.

Joonana:
Vaxx, it's very rare to find a Naija person engage you in an insightful discussion here. you should know this by now.

i understand you dear

uzzyfire:
shey u know that by 2025 Lagos GDP will be higher than south Africa's GDP

OK Jo'burg GDP is higher than Lagos, wateva makes u happy

becuse by then lagos will be more than south africa in population. lagos over population will soon result into big problem for nigeria as a country.

freshest4live:
Now l know you are biased, ballon population alone is not enough, rather the activities that thrive in the city. You are a Nigerian( according to you) so you should know what goes on in Lagos. Lagos city in Lagos state is Nigeria's commercial city and the GDP of Lagos is not surprising, there are other populated places with GDP far less than Lagos.

ogbeni. The lagos is the most develop state in nigeria and this made a whole lot of nigerians to flock there for survival. Helping the gdp. Lagos internal revenue base on the multiple number of people to tax is also reflecting. So i dare to say lagos gdp is becuse of the population.

uzzyfire:
Lagos is building Africa's first mega city (Dubai standard) Accra is not competition where Lagos is. go and compare Accra with Kinshasa or wateva d capital of Malawi is

accra is buiding first IT hub in africa that will employ 1million people at once. Why dont you think on that. Accra has already buid a flyover that can only be compare to dubai,standard. The flyover is in the city center of accra it is called dubai circle. Lagos is still learning.

uzzyfire:
and y do u thing Lagos is so crowded isn't it becos of population

Lagos population -; 21million
Jo'burg population -; 3million

use ur head figure d rest out

and Lagos GDP is higher than joburgs

92bn and

even your fellow nairalander know you are lying. josburg owns gdp is far bigger than that of lagos. bring fact from lagos goverment agency or wikipedia and let me also pull my fact not one fake website. Lagos is populated becuse it is most develop state in nigeria.

arinzeejikonye:
Look my dear, you need to be updated, lagos is on steroids, she is an unstoppable moving train,


Lagos is the 5th largest economy in Africa is not by chance


The lekki free trade zone is the largest growing economic corridor on the continent, there is massive construction going on,
Danone refinery, fertilizer plant, petrochemical plant gas pipeline facility, all the largest on the continent, with 3 largest world drudgery dredging 60"% of the reclaimed land off the Atlantic Ocean, Estates springing up every second, new airport, new seaport, demolitions ongoing for fourth mainland bridge, industrial clusters springing up




Research on Orange Island development, eko Atlantic development, Ilubirin lagos Island development, banana Island, lagos medical Park, Oshodi transport interchange,




Go to estate Intel.com and realise that lagos accounts for a huge chunk of real estate in the West African region



Research on ladol, nigerdock, ikeja urban regeneration development, badagry seaport, blue line, red line,



Apapa urban renewal, Victoria Island water front masterplan, ikoyi foreshore



Etc,





On the continent, lagos is the destination for the future of Africa,

ogbeni ki nlo worry e. you think accra is sleeping？ accra is currently under going massisve development . to host world class wild life like that of kenya , to become an IT HUB like silley corn valley of usa. Accra is not stoping. It is a gateway of west africa.even the kotokraba is been extended to accomodate air craft maintanance and aviation fuel center. Tema behind accra is also expanding its sea port.

uzzyfire:
yes it performs better , I can see it in its invisible GDP

Lagos GDP -; 92bn
Accra GDP -;

who the gdp help. na lagosian abi nigerian. i will end your story with an hausa statement. bi seni abinda aki fa da ba

uzzyfire:
guy don't be stupid, d development of a state, dieant it reflect on d GDP ? so if Lagos was useless y wud it's GDP be so high. abi does it fall from heaven .

all those cities u mentioned have gdps less than Lagos own , so who are u mocking

self deafeating statement. i dont reply insult. josburg has a GDP bigger than lagos own. you are not current.yet josburg gdp reflect on the city. What about lagos？ it is a sad story. Lagos gdp was so much in that high amount becuse of the ballon population.

iblawi:
Lagos doesn't have to boast cause it already 1.

No one is comparing Lagos with Accra but you and it's just because of your stupidity.

no it doest not have apart from population. i dont reply insult. i see it as a word of self defeating. lagos is not better than accra. Accra perform even better.

freshest4live:
You compare it with Accra because of your ignorance.

lol. it does not have any record that can beat accra down. apart from population. accra is even ahead in some aspect.

freshest4live:
If that would make you happy then no problem, it doesn't take away the fact that Lagos alone which they call poor is almost the fifth largest economy in Africa if we take away Nigeria. Isn't that shameful for Africa?

whao. Lagos gdp is the fifth largest in africa. What a big record. Yet it cant bost of world class city like cairo , josburg , alexandra ,tripoli and so many other less poor countries. Na wah for lagos o. We come dey compare am with accra the poor city.

uzzyfire:
dude I don't know who u are mocking , that company generates more than almost every African country (+Including Ghana ) so y did u pick Nigeria to mock

it is not about the mocking. It is about the illogical comparism. It is a company so it does not make sense to compare it with a country likewise comparing state to a country is a sick idea.

freshest4live:
We should start comparing these countries with Lagos and Portharcourt, not Nigeria.

if you dare it nigeria will be compare with just a single own company. Becuse it is illogical

uzzyfire:
lol wat Eva makes u happy

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