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The real truth is Ghana is better than nigeria for now. And nigerians business men are aware.they are coming in their millions to tap from the full potential.over 5million nigeria are currently in ghana making the most popular destination for nigerians.

Nigeria is a rich country yet poor in human development. due to poor goverment policy and mismanagement. Ghana is an average country but rich in human index development. due to rich goverment policy and proper management.

iamord:
Are you here to learn or to keep finding words from my mouth to argue about? You know you confirm my point earlier that a lot of nigerians are ethnocentric and chauvinistic, if you are really interested in knowing the positive sides the web articles you munched from provided the info i stated and much more, if you read it you won't come up telling me this. and what does the size of a city have to do with the revenue being generated in a city..?? is it not the activities in the city that brings revenue. smh.

please ignore those wh are comparing accra to abuja or port harcourt. It does not tally. It is accra vs lagos or portharcourt vs tema

Jay254:
What is there to be jealous about?? RWANDA had one of the worst genocide they came out stronger, Angola was in thesame shit they came out stronger.. Just to prove you wrong they did not go to stone age..

even ghana experience terrible hunger in in the late 60.70.80.and 90 but they were able to come out of it. Nigeria as a country has not face 1over 4 of the hardship ghana encounter before.

JiggamanGh:
I think with better road and train network, the countries will gradually come together. Nigeria practically own Benin and Ghana, Ivory Coast, burkina, liberia and Togo are really close.

yes there is high presence ofnigerians in countries you mention. but i observe lebanese ,chinese ,indians are doing better in business than us. infact in ghana for instance the lebanese and india community are growing.

9jakool:
Actually it depends on the person. I have seen many Hausa Muslims befriend Yoruba Muslims as well as Christians alike. Some Hausa may share those views, however I think it would be wrong to generalize them like that. In many parts if the SW, it's not uncommon to see Hausa and Yoruba in the same mosque, but it depends. I've heard that there are Yoruba imams in Abuja mosques who lead a congregation of mostly Hausa muslims. I like what you said about progressive society irregardless of religion. In Algeria and Libya, literacy including female literacy is very high. I even heard that there are more female lawyers than male lawyers in Algeria. I wish Northern part of Nigeria can adopt that form of approach to education and secularization and that starts by removing shariah law.

well i think the issue with the haus a is much about ethnic than religion. so many hausa youth are going to school now unlike before but they still keep to their culture which is not islamic.

civilization help yoruba a lot. yoruba welcome all faith and even adppt the practise into their traditional belive. churches like cele and cheribum have a blended of traditional religion and christanity.

even islam is blended with traditional faith. it is not uncommon for you to see yoruba muslim still practise local worships to osun ,ogun and ifa in towns like oshogbo ,ibadan , egba in ogun state .

i also think usman dan foldio system of islamization is the product of what is happening now in the north.the approach was very radical

Nowenuse:
You are correct. Senegalese are more educated than Ivorians, i can never dispute that.
I never said Dakar is not beautiful, but it is not really as developed as Abidjan from what i have observed. Senegal seems to have a better human development while Ivory coast a better economic development i guess.

At the end of the day however, we are still almost at the same level.

West Africa appears too fragmented. What do you think about the unification of West Africa as one country?

unification was the dream of the true legend son of africa.kwame inkrumah and gaddafi. a good idea i think but not feasible becuse of corruption and sellfishness. from the articule i read somewhere. inkrumah suggest to balewa to acquitre benin republic while he will acquire togo land. but this siggestion was turn down by balewa. ghana was able to acquire part of togo
land which are today ewe community.

uzzyfire:
no offense to ghanains oo but they tend to imitate everything Nigeria does even d bad things . I really don't know y they do that

ot is not about immitating. they accept nigeria as their brother due to the same colonia background.remember it is youth we are talking about here. thank GOD to nigeria entertainment industry which influence ghanian society alot. remember when there was a high penetration of american music into nigeria market. nigerians too were carried away by american styles. idris abdul kareem is an example.

Nowenuse:
Ok. Yes yorubas practice a very liberal form of islam, so they easily convert or leave the religion. The same thing in Nigeria and this is why unfortunately, many Hausas see yoruba muslims as fake or inferior muslims.

it is very unfortuante for the hausa to see yoruba muslim as fake. a progressive society should be able to accept diffrences. duabi is 100.percent muslim yet they welcome non muslm. and that is why is moving forward economically than saudi arabia.

Nowenuse:
Yes, true. I think Senegalese and Ivorians seem to be better in terms of education and civilization because they were closer to Dakar which was the capital of colonial French West Africa, unlike the Malians, Burkinabes, Togolese, Beninoise and the worst of all Nigèriens who were farther away from Dakar.
The united colonial french west Africa was a very terrible colonial system.

But why is Ivory coast so progressive compared to other Francophone west Africans? more than even the Senegalse who are more educated and westernized?
Just look at Abidjan and how beautiful, developed and civilized it looks.
I think Senegal is supposed to be leading Francophone west Africa and not Ivory coast

dakar is beaitiful like ivory coast. they have lot of well respected scholarsl than ivory coast.senegal has a little natural resources compare to ivory coast. ivory coast is the largest producer of cocoa in the world. they even have oil but the oil issue is still in court against ghana. i will not fully agree with you if you think ivory coast is better than senegal. not any major diffrence.

Nowenuse:
Hausas have a very powerful way of influencing others with their language (especially smaller tribes).
This was exactly the way they infiltrated central and North-east Nigeria, non hausa parts of Niger and northern Cameroon. (although fulani jihad was another avenue).

I guess, most of the yorubas close to Hausas in Ghana must be muslim yorubas? Cos i don't really see christian yorubas being close to Hausas.

yes. most of the yoruba who have choosen ghana as their second home are muslim. although this is changing now due to inter marriage between yoruba and the local ghanians who are mainly christain

Nowenuse:
Hmm, ok i see.
it really seems like these settlers in Ivory coast especially those from Mali and Burkina faso are the ones dragging Ivory coast backwards, cos it seems like most of the original Ivorians are very educated and progressive people, but you wonder why Ivory coast is not doing so well in human and other indexes.
Do u also share this thought?

well it is of two side. the present president of ivory coast now is half burkina half ivorian.almost all the tribe are now getting married to each other.i think the ivorian society is really influence by french. and the old french protectorate in general apart from senegal are not doing well more than their english neigbour. although law and order is dully follow more than the english country. the fula from mali are not gerally uneducated. some are well respect people in the society.illiteracy is very common among the french country. use benin and togo ,mali for example.

Nowenuse:
Yes i think i am aware of this.

Hausa in Ghana is more like a language for muslims. Like the lingua franca of all muslim tribes. This is almost the same case in northern and central Cameroon.

Believe me as a hausa speaker, i have met many Hausa speaking Ghanaians and it is very clear that most of them speak it as a 2nd language from their intonation.
I really wonder how Hausa came to penetrate Ghana more, without penetrating Togo and Benin republic as such. A Ghanaian once told me that it was because of islam.

I never knew hausa was so entrenched in Ghana until i started coming across Hausa Ghana movies. I also noticed that some adverts in GH were done in hausa..

Seriously, if not for the illiteracy and backwardness of native Hausas, Hausa would have been the most spoken language in Africa by now. Cos it would have spread farther by now.

Just for the records, Gbari is a dialect or subgroup of Gbagyi (the major ethnic group of FCT and Abuja), but Gbaris are mostly found in Niger state. Gbagyi is the general and official ethnic name (corrupted as GWARI by the hausas).
Gbagyis are middlebelters and most middlebelters (except Benue-Kogi people) adopted Hausa as a 2nd language.

one of the way hausa penetrate ghana is through business. they deal in cola nut and groundnut.

another reason can be link to the influence of tijaniya movement. most of the muslim in ghana are tijaniya which is a very big branch of islam in kano state.

there is a particular tribe in ghana called dagoma in northern region ,they claim they ate from nigeria north. gombe and adamawa precisely.

hausa has a very large speaker in west africa and its influence is still growing.i also think education and exposure is the reason yoruba languge is not as influencial as hausa. yoruba are the largest nigeria ethnic group in ghana ,benin ,togo ,ivory coast , saro . yet it does not enjoy the same priviledge with hausa. yoruba people prefer using their host community language which is not the same with hausa.

it may suprise you. yoruba and hausa in ghana are like brother and sister.

Nowenuse:
LoL ok.

Do most Ghanaians speak pidgin? Cos i see Ghanaians speaking it well in movies and musics.
Is it a lingua franca in GH?

ghanian pidgin is still under development. they are borrowing nigeria slangs , words and some part of their native language. the illitrate speak poor pidgin. you will only like it when an educated youth speak pidgin than the illiterate.most of the ghanian old educated men does not even understand it.

hausa is an imported language into ghanian society. it is not recognized officially in schools. however the language is growing day by day due to the extended family of the muslim. it may even suprise you to know that majority of those who speak hausa are not real indigineous hausa. they are kotokoli a tribe from togo ,zambaruma a tribe in nigeria and mostly in niger republic, zugu a tribe in northern benin republic .even yoruba muslim in ghana speak hausa as their second language. this hausa language may be consider broken and fun to nigeria native hausa speaker.

most of the hausa youth in ghana are very aggresive. they are more like ajegunle boys in nigeria. the use of the language is associated with thugs , robbery and bold mind.

nonethless some hausa speaker are educated. this are the people who speak hausa and miss it with english.


the most common language in ghana is twi . spoken as the first language of more than 75. percent people. accra native language is inkrai. but it is not as powerful like twi in accra ,just the way hausa dominate abuja instead of gbari language

Nowenuse:
Yes u are right.
However i never disputed the ethnic similarities btw Ghanaians and Ivorians m, i only disputed the looks. But it seems like you have a strong point because i have also read it somewhere that almost half of present day Ivorians actually migrated from neighbouring countries and are now claiming Ivorian identity. Probably the reason why they now look quite different.

But it seems like the original Ivorians are very united and at peace with the settlers. Or do they discriminate themselves? Do you know anything about their relationship?

Pls, who are the frafra? I've never heard that name, is it a nick name for an ethnic group?

the ivorians are loving and welcoming people. they love stranger a lot. for instance yoruba are now occupying official position. igbo are selling landed property. it is another home for hausa.despite this hospitality there is still some stubborn people among them who hate strangers. the fula for example.

frafra is a tribe that can be found in upper east region in ghana and few in burkina faso.hope this answer your question.

Nowenuse:
French/English divide can never really be overcomed in Africa (especially West Africa), unless all west Africans become billingual in English and French and it seems like most of us are not interested and Ecowas is not doing much about it.

Personally i don't think Ghanaians and Ivorians look alike. I can easily tell them apart.
(Sorry if i sound colorist or offensive to anyone), but i think Ghanaians are more dark-skinned than Ivorians.
Ivorians (women especially) seem to have more of this Senegambian look similar with west African fulanis.

Ivorians and Ghanaians may be of similar ethnic stocks, but it seems like many Ivorians have maternal origins with Senegambian tribes like fulanis, there must have been a lot of ethnic mixing or intermarriage between Akan men and Senegambian women there.

Ghanaian women also tend to be very much more curvatious and voluptious than Ivorian women

(lethalbeast do you agree with my assertions?)

Check out both threads below btw Ivorian and Ghanaian women and see what am talking about.

https://www.nairaland.com/843320/beauty-ivory-coast-women-most

https://www.nairaland.com/1042951/beauty-ghanaian-women

you are not absolutely right. akan tribe itself spread to mordan day ivory coast. before the arrival of the colonial master ashanti kings use to collect some levy from ivorian villages and till date some of them pay him respect.

my grandpa told me how he is cocoa farm was streched from doma inkrom in brong ahafo region to some vilage ivory coast.and that is not official border tilll date. ivorians and ghanians are just one people. the official border to ivory coast from ghana is elubo.

ivorians themselves are not that much. majority of what constitute ivory coast are frafra people from mali the fula, upper ghana the frafra , the fanti, the burkinabe , the zambaruma and lastly a very large yoruba community from ejigbo. these people have become ivorians by naturalization.

another interesting thing to note is that ivorians eat almost the food with tha akans if ghana. from fufu to banku and so on.

MostBanned:
Who ask you

do i call your attention.why dont u face your warrant

Nowenuse:
Ok i tot u were Ghanaian.

Yes, Ghana is trying in terms of human development, but this also comes at a huge price due to their higher taxation system and high cost of living.
Accra seems to be just like Abuja municipality where if you are not rich or an active civil servant or worker with a good salary, you cannot cope.

This kind of settings do not encourage the thriving self employed population who want to raise their income levels from little or nothing. This is the reason why Abuja has developed so many and largely populated satelite towns even extending into Niger and Nasarawa states.

Ghanaian schools may be paying students, but what is their tuition fees? Nigerian schools are among the cheapest in the world. Don't forget that some Nigerian states and other comissions also pay their students annual bursaries from the first year.

accra is not like abuja. not at all. it will be ok if you compare accra to lagos and not abuja. accra has both settlement for rich,poor and average. depending on the type of what you do for a living ,you can fit in.

ghanian puplic universities is as cheap like nigeria uni too. a student of legon pay 700cedis per section approximately 65k in nigeria cheaper than lasu ,unilag and many more. may be lesser than oau,unilorin and uniben.


the payment of the allowance is not limited to one particular region but to all the general region at large.

i wonder why some nnigerians always use big university to justify development. bo serious country will be looking for land like that of UI OR OAU to build a university. it is too big and not much useful in this 21century. a storey building is enough to cater for 100.000 population of student in this IT WORLD. not using the land that suppose to be used gor agricultural purpose for school. CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY IS ONE OF THE BEST UNIVERSITY IN THE WORLD. yet is not up to the size of my secondry school.

Nowenuse:
Expensiveness of Accra will only increase tax revenue for your govt and truly, yes, it will help in development of infrastructures, but it will be a serious setback to the development of a viable middle class population, as most poor people will find it more difficult to climb the middle class ladder due to expensiveness of basic commodities.
Unless your govt can use this tax money to create numerous well paying jobs for the masses in order to enable them meet up with the high cost of living, many poor people will never be able to climb the middle class lader to wealth.

why are you using your. i am not a ghanian. i have live both in accra nairobi lagos. and now in erding.am a nigeria by citizen.

it is not only the duty of goverment to provide 100percent jobs to the jobless. it is collective effort of everyone. goverment will only provide enabling envitoment for businesss to strive and investor to invest. if ghana goverment is doing this better than nigeria then it needs to be applauded. ghana expensive is working in the right direction. ghana is not a rich country like nigeria yet she is ahead of nigeria when it comes to human development. it is worth celebrating. ghana is not 100percent better. atleast is doing it better than us. if you a student nurse in ghana .you get paid. if you are in teaching tranning colledge like nce in nigeria you also get paid.

Nowenuse:
But how come even with our erratic electricity, the cost of living in Nigeria is very cheap compared to Ghana?

A country that wanted development must pay the price. london is very expensive but you will be fine if you are fully employ. accra is expensive but you will find it lesa difficult if you are engage in business

Prectega:
pharmacy, nursing, all engineering courses.... Even masscom, law.

Add to it business adminisration , economics ,computer science. information technology, aviation prigram. the list is not yet exhausted

i dislike royalty not because of jealousness. but simply for the fact that they are consider more superiour than ordinary man. i am related to royal class through my mother side but i do not fancy it. i belive all men are equal except from good deed and piety

uzzyfire:
do u know that Ghanaians are now learning all these from Nigeria. looooll this y people say Nigeria is colonising Ghana

do you think that is what we should be exporting to ghana. ghanians youth are not expose to this of lifesl style. nigeria are now gradually groming them.

kilo4sure:
She is right becos l know first hand many Nigerians in diaspora who share same sentiment. Please don't hype yourselves we only applaud these small countries in Africa for constant power supply, many Nigerians would not want to settle in Nairob or Accra except for power supply and the standard of a few universities in Ghana better than many in Naija. Nigerians generally only consider the west as mega, and not Kenya and Ghana. Last time l checked only south Africa comes close to Naija in terms of collective wealth and powerful private sectors. Naija nor be Una mate o, though if you call it a useless country, l go understand sha.

let me tell you yhe real trutb today. nigerians are in ghana becuse it is enabling enviroment to start business. check best country to do business. ghana is ahead of nigeria. accra and lagos are not yet a mega city or can be consider as one.kenya capital is a bit ahead.

another reason nigerians go to ghana is education. there is a flexible approach to education in ghana making education available to everyone.

Ghana is peaceful and secured compare to nigeria. these are just the few reasons

uzzyfire:
lol wat u sed is d other way around bro. Nigerians are building Ghana's economy

no doubt about it. but i can actually tell you majority of nogerians in ghana are a burden to the country. our women has become prositute. our men has found another heaven for their internet fraud.

mtis:
May be coz they are better than Nigeria

average nigeria mind is very corrupt. most of nigerians in poorer countries are either for fraud or to acquire their passport. we as a nigeria must rebrand our dirty image.

kilo4sure:
She is right, you know nothing at all, so you think Nigerians go to Kenya and Ghana becos they are mega countries? Now l know some people's brain also go on recession.

what you have done here is way to identify fools. instead of you to backup her point. you go ahead to open your fowl mouth insulting strangers under the priviledge of online form

kilo4sure:
Populous nations have their people everywhere, running away from their country, this is nothing new. There are Nigerians in chad and Togo as well, and so many igbos doing business in Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. We also employ many Indians in southern Nigeria, so l wonder why countries like Kenya and even Ghana keep boasting here of Nigerians migrating to their country, soon even malavwi would boast too. Na wa o, Naija don suffer no be small. This one na real gobe, l hope our leaders are reading these things, we even get leaders sef?

you are not telling the truth. american are more populous than nigeria yet 20percent of them own passport. indians and chinko comming to nigeria are enterprenurer. establishing business and employing most of nigerians. in ghana. nigerians are a buden to the country. fraudster ,prositute and drug peddler. ghanians are nigeria too. but most of them are teachers therefore contributing to the nation building

fanficgirl:
I'm going to be brutally honest. This is a conversation I just had with a Nigerian who doesn't want to return to Nigeria and calls Nigeria a shithole 24/7.
He's scared he might sent back to Nigeria with very little( student visa things).
I suggested he go to African Countries like Kenya or South Africa.
He said he would rather stay in Nigeria than live in a country run by whites (SA) or a country where he will just end up in the slums (Kenya).
This is what he just told me right now
Yes, Nigeria is horrible and we need ro fix things but this perception that Nigerian are dying to run to other African Countries is false lol.
My other friend suggested Ghana and he said ( not my opinion) Ghana is trash no better than Nigeria ( of course thats where a Ghanaian friend of mine came ).

you are telling lies. you just want be sugarcoated. if he can not live in a country run by the white. where is he leaving？ if he can not come out from the slum. where does he come from ？ if he can not stay in the trash. where does he consider a mega country.all what you have written is a terrible lie for a joke

uzzyfire:
I know u are lying but just continue talking

am sure you have not cross the border of nigeria before. how much nairobi. am a nigeria and also a notherner from my mother side.

Shaytun:
Hehehehee, Which Kenya Town/city can match the development in the various pics have uploaded.



Don't tell me you are trying to compare nairobi with owerri or imo.

Kenya with a population of 46.0million people has only one "funtionall" city, Nairobi where 40% of the population lives in slum .

Financially Lagos beats Nairobi.

In terms of beauty Abuja Beats Nairobi.

In cleaniness Uyo beats Nairobi.

it is not true.i have been to both capital. abuja is lagging behind. even harare in zimbabwe far develop than abuja