₦airaland Forum

Jonraid:
Who's the secretary general at UNCTAD? This d*ck measuring contest with Kenya won't profit you nothing!

That is just a subsidiary of UNO anyway

mtisTheQubit:
Vaxx you are letting Ghana down with ths low grade comparison....we respect Ghana so dont go Naija way..

Diplomatic connection is about the recognition of your country men. in another look you aren't better than Nigeria....biased opinion aside.

mtisTheQubit:
Vaxx do you want me to call RVP ....coz i think he made valid points that you couldnt disapprove...Kenya might be poor but Ghana is also poor...Why do you think kazi was challenging you...its good to let the story die man...

Tell me which valid point RVP made form its continuous blog uploading?

we are poor but not like kenya.....kazikazi was ignorantly challenging me.... it is good you guys know we aren't on the same class. RvP was ignorant to understand that

mtisTheQubit:
Vaxx prooveths for once...i challenge you

We are once the secretary general of UNO. our former foreing minister is now in your country. ( Hannah tetteh) is the current UNO director In Nairobi

tylann:
mau mau were kenyans

we fought for our independence

That is local war . very timid of a race ...... we fought the most sophisticated country then the British army ....our independce was won not gifted

mtisTheQubit:
Now vaxx ya starting to talk like a Nigerian....Unknown Kenya ..we gave Obama to the Americans...we host the biggest U.N thingy in africa ...man go with the facts ...Faking it doesnt mean we agree with you...

You didn't gave Obama America. Obama was an half cast with American blood.

we gave the world kofi annah for more than 10 years..... Having safari and amusement park can't solve your poverty or increase your wealth . prudent management does

Jonraid:
Diplomacy? We have UN bodies here!

We can easily tap the power before you..... .

Jonraid:
We accept it!

16 times bailed out! Parte after parte,bail after bail and yet they're here teaching us about Macro-economics and not being Pro-Western while they dine out with IMF a countless of times.

When is the next bail out?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMfMuZ9fjjI

Even if is 100 times bailout , it still dosnt change the fact we are economically stable now and you are not.

Ghana had witnessed significant economic growth over the past decade , with real GDP growth rising steadily from 3.7 per cent in 2000 to 11.5 per cent in 2011 before decelerating to 4.0 per cent in 2014, mainly on account of the energy challenges that we have then. now we are producing at over capacity. we solve this challenge with less than 1 year.....


You country has listen to the voice of the IMF and now wanted to sit on prudent management....

Jonraid:
And thatpost is the beginning of things? Pipe dream at best! Due to protectionism the free trade may end up like the Yamoussoukro open skies treaty.You need to be big to do that,currently your soft power in this continent doesn't even equals Nigeria's one!

At least the contest of hosting the secretarial position proves we are diplomatically connected than you. remember, we contested the position together . As for Nigeria, we can always carry them along . remember Nigeria will dance to Ghana tone even before south africa talkless of unknown kenya . apart from location on the world map

rvp20182:
We have always rebased every 10 yrs after census that we have held religiously every 10yrs and major household surveys at middle of that...you cannot just rebase based on whips or to escape IMF baiout like Ghana did.Like Nigeria you more often than not cannot afford to fund even census being broke every few years

Econmic wise, census are conducted every 10 years . You just don't wake up and started counting the population every months as if it is necessary, if that is the way, your money is wasted , then your goverment have a problem . Ghana had its last census in 2010. go CHECK the internet...

we are doing digital census next year. it is going to cost the nation over 40 million dollars .

Jonraid:
Why doesn't your current president continue with that advocacy pushed by Gadaffi if it be that you are true Pan Africanists. I didn't like the way Gaddafi was bullied by the West but that doesn't mean that he was all clean and clean. Remind me,what was the end of him?

if you have study our current president well enough. you will realised is strategizing Ghana back to the position of inkrumah. he won The post to host the African free trade.

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tylann:
kenya fought for it is independence
go and read about mau mau

united africa will never happen

gaddafi and nkurumah were dictators they mean nothing to us

I know about may mau enough? Are they British or fellow Kenyans ? . Aren't they the same Kenyans like you.

Jonraid:
And they all failed? Ha!

Yes they failed becuse of many timid leaders in Africa like jomo kenyata and co.

rvp20182:
The corrupt and ideological Kwame Nkrumah collapsed a strong economy the Brits had nurtured and was eventually kicked by armed forces leading to huge celebration from Ghanians who had suffered incredible poverty including famine.Ghana economy has yet to recover.

Ghana was one of the few country that was thoroughly robbed by the British. What is kenya a poor nation have ?

The kind of project kwame inkrumah government did for Ghana, not even Mandela do it In his country . The kind of his foreign policies, including his active contribution to the formation of the Organisation of African Union and Pan-African movement in general is uncontestabe with your unknown jomo apart from its jurisdiction

rvp20182:
We never got any assistance from Gaddafi.We were not a banana republic to listen to a deranged arab who was busy spreading communism and sponsoring coups. We remained non aligned and refused to generally support anything outside the established international bodies like AU,UN and commonwealth.

When Ghana was romancing the non allinged nation , you guys are still a British stooge. gaddafi was promoting the idealogy that was spread by kwame inkrumah to have a single state instead of been divided . That land occupation in South Africa and east Africa is not allowed in west africa, since our goverment fought the British to their throat. we aren't timid to be occupied by Asian who are presently demanding to be recognised as a special tribe in your country .



our independence is won not gifted

rvp20182:
Kenya debt register is pasted here..look for exim bank of China.Dont think every country is a banana republic like Ghana . Chinese loans are as competitive as IMF or WB or ADB...and they don't come to Kenya Ike your IMF to micromanage us.Try the Chinese once you're credit worthy.The national shame of IMF running your country for 40yrs will be wiped away..I am assuming every bail out takes 2-3yrs to exit

i will trust your central bank instead of any fake or blog page you are posting here zombie. A mere looking at your debt profile on Your central bank profile , it simply suggest something is not transparent and it is shaddy. An economy making just 1/4 of the total debt you owed is scary and that is just net revenue, salaries and other state expenditure are still yet to be taken? Then it something that should be worried about. it only takes an economics 101 to know you are not making enough revenue to pay up your debt hence your appetite to borrow to finance other sector and at the same time pay for what you are not capable to independently bankroll.. You are in a debt trap diplomacy with China. Your must important and profitable venture probably is at risk( mombasa) China did it to sir lankas and kenya wouldn't be a big deal.

China also loan Ghana but our parliamentarian are smart not to fall victim of black mailing , we know debt is like a trade accepted to hold profit from the lender. we rather agree in paying back with our value added aluminium instead of cash. we don't jump into what we can't do.

it seems kenya needs to come for tutorial on how to manage debt .....

Your debt service to revenue ratio stood at 35.8 per cent, 30.5 per cent and 33.4 per cent respectively against the threshold of 30 per cent

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Parliament-gets-notice-to-cap-micro-lenders-rates/996-4838822-y7sqmsz/index.html


. Nigeria is vindicated ... Walahi.....

rvp20182:
Tell you country mate just30 who thought Kenya has no informal sector.We should attempt to formalize them..for their own good mostly..and Mobile Money is helping .We cannot take guesswork to the mathematics of calculating GDP.

Your economics education is wanting.... how is mobile money not an informal venture? you are deluded ....

rvp20182:
Why are Ghanian escaping Ghana like Nigerians? You only see such desperation in war torn countries. Examine their data closely.

kenya is too poor to do that ?Your purchasing power is so weak to affect such decision . Your GDP per capital is even not enough after your fake GDP rebase . you are simply a poor nation ....and the tectonic plate that shift your country toward Savannah despite being poor with 40 percent of your population also compound your problem. you cant compare yourself with people on the grassland that have access to the sahel nation which just share boundary with Europe not to take opportunity when knock.

Ghana were once travelling for food and cash but now in 21st century we are travelling for education , buisness opportunity and economy improvement. The reason you find Ghanaian in every scheme of life. we are academia , buisness men , investor , scientists and entertainer. we are buying up the second largest pharmacy shop in your country soon ..

Ghana bank governor is the new chairman of IMF ...he will determine your credit soon now that you have obey the command of Bretton wood institution . .

psychologygh:
how about your sellout Kenyeatta who inherited a tea country, betrayed all his neighbors, sold all the fertile lands to England and some for free and till date,rightful natives were driven out of their lands,betrayed Tanzania and still continued by his son Uhuru who continues to grow tea and flowers to the west,opens his country for all kinds of sex tourism,rich white game poachers,Arab dirty animals,impoverished Indians,visa free and on arrival to all western countries all in the name of "Tourism and FDIs",prepare and fairly modernize parts of Nairobi and Mombasa like a virgin black slave waiting in the chambers of her white owners to be anally raped continuously and paid with pennies whilst the whole country and population has been sidelined and wallow in extreme poverty.

Who sells tea and flowers for a living,tell me if you still don't backstab Africa and East Africa like your president's father did before.The word Kenya and everything it consists of is fake.

You can never sell the dignity of Ghana and God being so great,we doing soo fine now upon all the decades of struggle because we never bowed to the greedy capitalist West.Now we implement all forms of social interventions to the people .We even had the privilege to welcome all African Americans and Carribians back home to Ghana just as Nkrumah did.Our president is more outspoken and eloquent than any African leader can ever dream to be,and Ghana is currently among the fastest growing economy in the world. That's what you guys don't wanna hear.Please,I have nothing against Kenya so please don't push me to say stuffs.

impeccable....

Just30:
i wonder what Gadaffi was even thinking when trying to push all these sell out so called African leaders to do something for themselves. He should have learnt from Nkrumah and develop his country in quiet.

Gaddafi was just thinking of the best option to savage this so called capitalist country out of poverty.

rvp20182:
IMF standby facility was a nice to have...it was an insurance against exogenous currency risks.We didn't need it.We never touched even a coin while it was available.We don't need IMF poking their nose around Kenya internal affairs or even the Brits or US.We are now a proud independent country.

Your President will disagree with you.

You probably scrap your lending cap against your hollow parliamentarian interest to grant IMF its command .... They already indicate that to you, before they can lend you again, You must scrap your fake capping


now your president understand the command of prudent management. The standby credit arrangement can now be talk over again

Just30:
Nkrumah collapse was because he pushed a timid Africa too far and got international interest against him

He wasted a significant part of Ghana's resources on a timid Africa that was not ready to develop
Giving Gambia money
SA
http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0259-01902011000100003

Eastern Africa
https://www.amazon.com/Nkrumahs-Ghana-East-Africa-Pan-Africanism/dp/0838634567

Why this people fail to know Ghana was very rich at indepence still surprised me? This is the time, foreing reserve is rested on gold not dollars

rvp20182:
As a low middle class 60% is not so bad and we are working our way down .. recently Ghana had 78% debt to GDP..you cooked the GDP but dent to GDP back up to 60%..the cedis dropping...you are a case study of African banana republic.I use to think Tanzania was bad ..

You rebased Your GDP over 7 times and more . You were struggling behind Ghana in 2013. forward to 2014 . you suddenly surpass Ghana with your agrarian economy? what you rebased till now still baffles me ... maybe tea production and safari expansion. something drastically was hide by your fake corrupted statistician.


Every indication suggest your economy is poorly managed , for thinking you can cap interest rate at all brings me to conclusion your GDP might be cook . Your nation is struggling with 40 percent total poverty....that is about 20 million of extreme poor individual....


is that the kind of economy you want to compare with Ghana? it seems your brain is paining you

rvp20182:
How about Nkrumah took a wrong turn, converted Ghana to communism and over borrowed to build volta or akosombo dam.. country collapsed and never really recovered.He inherited a country literally named Gold coast.Like all communist state that went bankrupt

You are an idiot ... the dam actually paid back its own debt. VRA cost alone in today value will build two SGR train you borrowed from China... The dam has lasted over 50 years and yet it is still standing...


Inkrumah is a better manager than whatever the kind of leader you have produce....


Ghana is even yet to list it on the stock exchange . and likewise the ECG.....

tylann:
kenyas is available for all to see just google kenyas debt you will see all

Yes and that is how i am lecturing the idiot road side economics called Rvp. who thinks using article , blogs, video and picture are testament of informed judgement. . Kenya debt is not transparent like a sustainable nation .


You cant be separating your Chinese debt from your public debt . this need to be factor . if the known Chinese debt is factor, your debt to GDP will be around 62 percent. but what about other state institutional debt yet unknown ?

rvp20182:
Gibberish.For example most China debt is SGR debt owed by Kenya Railways corporation which will repay because we are ahead of schedule in viability.You don't talk about macro economic of any sort.Your GDP to debt shot to 58% already despite cooking books.Talk about HDI and micro economy...aka informal economy.

This is the reason why your debt is indeed the equal size of your GDP if it can be formalized and put it into one cash book...

Your state institution debt is on another cover which debt book is not captured . Your China debt of about 6 billion dollar is in separate cash book , your public debt that is known stood around 60 billion is also on another book. making your debt so scanty . No one knows how much you owned? Since other state enterprises debt are unknown ....

You have received more than 9.8 billion dollar Chinese debt from 2006 to 2017 . logically speaking you aren't small India. you are an extended province of China control from Beijing.

rvp20182:
As a low middle class 60% is not so bad and we are working our way down .. recently Ghana had 78% debt to GDP..you cooked the GDP but dent to GDP back up to 60%..the cedis dropping...you are a case study of African banana republic.I use to think Tanzania was bad ..

kenya is a failure of a country, your China debt is not even captured yet neither is All debt all your enterprises captured yet and you doing poorly around 60 percent . comparing yourself to a country that has calculate both the debt the country owes separately from the state-owned enterprises together is a pure joke . you must be mad.

But we deal with you soon...no time now.

I am off for about 2 hours ... Rvp i will trashed you more when I come back

Just30:
so your public debt is 60 billion dollars

That is roughly about 60 percent of their GDP for a nation whose tax to revenue keep falling

Just30:
you are funny



there is enough data obtainable
fact that you are unable to access them does not mean they dont exist.

Rvp is a Kenyan illiterate who study software engineer but failed to know how to source the internet for information. he has promised to get the cement statistics in the next four days . something very stupid....

rvp20182:
Says a man from a country who have gone belly up 16 times in 60yrs. Ghana goes bankrupt every 3yrs. You're only independent in name. If we were to cook data - we would have long defaulted. We won't have a city as good as Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu, Nakuru, Eldoret, Thika...all looks better than any Ghanian city.

Now when it come to Ghana....which is managed by IMF most of the time...what can you really tell us about macro-economics.

I see you've ran to micro-economics - even there - I doubt you'll have it good.

Nigeria and Ghana - despite all natural resources that God has blessed you with - you're still exporting modern slaves like you did in 15-17th century!!!

I personally told you running to IMF is not the problem cus they don't manage economy, They only gives advices....your country short tax to revenue which keep dwindling is something much more fitching and surprising that your national statistics may be cooking fake index . IMF failed to trust you....

kumasi alone is richer than the nation called kenya if property underground can be valued and traditional property..... You have no nation as far as I am concerned. Your non urbanized country that is hardly 24 percent can never be compared to Ghana that its village has almost turn to city..... poor country don't urbanized fast . your unemployment is alarming . Nigeria is a blessed nation.....

rvp20182:
As Ghanian - please refrain from advising Kenya on anything serious - We can as well ask IMF for their help - something we swore not to do since 90s.

I will get to cement consumption very soon - I am going to be off the next 4 days.

So maybe next week we shall see.

Who are you fooling ? You were on credit fercility with IMF last year to the tune of 1 billion dollar . it was terminated based upon your poor rating , it isn't just about removing interest cap. you also need to increase your revenue so as to maintain yoir debt levels sustainability. You can't seriously expand social development in this manner Your tax to revenue shortfall need a medical solution. Your apettitie of debt should be curtail. your economy outlook don't support too much borrowing.


China debt is not something we can talk about since your cash book didn't capture it.