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francizy:
That is how you people misunderstand things and jump straight to replying.. How does "AFTER THE CIVIL WAR relate or have anything to do with the civil war?

I said

AFTER THE CIVIL WAR,
AFTER THE CIVIL WAR,
AFTER THE CIVIL WAR,

do you now understand that i meant post Civil war and not during Civil war before I move forward and clear your doubts?

What turmoil are the Igbos causing in Yoruba land? How many times have you took to NL, FB or Twitter to unleash the beast on the Fulani people destroying farm lands and killing Yoruba farmers in your own lands? AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, has the Igbos ever rise up in arms against the Yorubas? But the Igbos have done that on several ocassions against the Hausa/Fulanis in the form of reprisal attacks. Have you ever heard that Igbo men went into some plots of land in Lagos, without paying for it and started building? Has the Igbos ever disrupted any of your gatherings? The fact remains that crimes committed in Lagos are shared equally between the Yorubas and the Igbos? So where is and what is the turmoil you're talking about bro?

Read the post nna

francizy:
You should also ask yourself these questions:

[b]1 [/b]Has there ever been a time after the civil war that a truck load of dead Yoruba people were moved from SE to SW for burial?

[b]2 [/b]Have we not accommodated the Yorubas in our lands, although they aren't that large compared to Igbos in SW?

[b]3[/b]Haven't you heard of cases were a truck load of dead bodies were brought into the SW from the north?

[b]4[/b]Have we caused you trouble as our host? Did we rise up in arms against you, like some tribe(s) did in Jos? Have we ever come out en masse to murder/maim the Yorubas in Lagos?

[b]5[/b]Has the Igbos not paid their dues? Did we disrupt any Yoruba businesses or damaged any Yoruba properties?

If you've asked and answered all these questions, then you can ask yourself this one too..

Then why the hate speech?

1. l know someone will bring up the civil war ish. How has the fact that the insignificant numbers of SWesterners in the East are in peace justify the turmoil you pole cause down in the West. Yorubas are quite respectful and they know how to keep a level-head where they need to unlike your folks. The point is it is not only the Igbos that are hosted in Lagos. Why the fuss?

2. Nobody is concerned abt that...as a matter of discuss, how many of una remain for una side sef to host other tribes?

3. How does that justify the Ibos mischief in Lagos. The Fulanis are notorious nomads...are you trying to show that Ibos are peaceful then and hence the claims of mischief is invalid?

4. You have, you have, you have, you really have. If you had not, why will we have cause to single the Ibos out always. To the factual. Deltans, Ibiobios and other SS are part of those you pple claim their achievements in Lagos to be yours. No one attacks them. You have insulted our tribe, our leaders and our culture. So much insudordination. Something your tribe will never take. How do you explain the brazen claims that your tribe can single-handedly see to the victory of any guber candidate in Lagos? How will you take that if Fulani's make such claims in Anambra or IMO state. Such insubordination from the overtly virile and blooming Hausas led to the Jos ish. You claim to have bought the lands over, solely developed Lagos, Lagos is a no- mans land etc and all sorts of lies. How many of such lies have you made true in the East? Why do you pay Omo Onile on a no mans land. Show me any Chukudi with an Alimosho LG certificate in the no man's land?

5. Which dues have you paid? Who is demanding dues from you? If you paid dues are other tribes not? All we ask is that you stop ground-standing on a ground that you cant stand. Let us hear the whining of another SS tribe. Keep the noise to the caves only. Stop making issues outta nothing. Stop playing the victim. Biko

francizy:
You should also ask yourself these questions:

[b]1 [/b]Has there ever been a time after the civil war that a truck load of dead Yoruba people were moved from SE to SW for burial?

Have we not accommodated the Yorubas in our lands, although they aren't that large compared to Igbos in SW?

Haven't you heard of cases were a truck load of dead bodies were brought into the SW from the north?

Have we caused you trouble as our host? Did we rise up in arms against you, like some tribe(s) did in Jos? Have we ever come out en masse to murder/maim the Yorubas in Lagos?

Has the Igbos not paid their dues? Did we disrupt any Yoruba businesses or damaged any Yoruba properties?

If you've asked and answered all these questions, then you can ask yourself this one too..

Then why the hate speech?

1 l know someone will bring up the civil war ish. How has the fact that the insignificant numbers of SWesterners in the East are in peace justify the turmoil you pole cause down in the West. Yorubas are quite respectful andthey know how to keep a level-head where

[b] Important Socratic questions Chiamanda and her folks forgot to answer are;

Have Yorubas not bn good hosts in all forms of being good and being an host?

Is it too much for Yorubas to say that Lagos is a Yorubaland?

He who comes to equity must come with clean hands.... Have the Igbo, all along and "all these while" bn innocent victims?

Are Igbos not just being mischievous since there are other tribes( whose lands are even closer to Lagos than the far East) in Lagos who have never cried like babies and whined like bigots?

Is there a way forward and who shld pave way for who?


Are other sojourners laying claims to the "no-man's land as passionately as the Igbos?

I think these and many more questions shld have bn answered by Ms. Adichie and her goons before she concoted her sentimental piece...if truly she did.

It won't be fair, if for the sakes of peace and unity of Nigeria, we continue to, for no sane reasons, undermine, insubordinate, take for granted and make to nothing the culture, tradition,ideology and good will of the numerous pples that make this great country[/b]

macjive01:
I dont have all the fact, my CIA fact book is taking ages to load up, but Igbo traders, ijaw fisher men and Awori fishermen have been trading since Before the notation of BC calender counting.
so it is believed that there has always been Igbos in the land called Lagos.
Yes they too migrated, but they have had a continous presence, not as the fishermen but as fish traders, in this land now called Lagos.

Do you realise Ijaws still claim this land now called Lagos èven sone part of ondo?

Oh my world..What that...Damn. You may be right tho. Birds might have swum in the deepest of the oceans too.[s] ( before the notation of the BC calendar counting)[/s] Oniranu toun fi lace ran pata...o tun yo back pocket si

dcaliph:
Yorubas reads the history of Benin written by the yorubas in which they change the truth, our can Benin come from yoruba when the Benin kingdom existed nearly a thousand years before Oduduwa was born? That mot yoruba don't even know.

.....and who told you Oduduwa was born?? Na you born am?? Abeg go sidon...Check my reply above and answer me before i start to school you. Nigga go ask more info from your elders down.

italo:
You are grossly uneducated in this matter.

The Yorubas are subjects to Binis.

Tell us the Yoruba meanings of Oduduwa and Eko...if you disagree.

The Yorubas were subject to Binis ?? And na you dey informed abt this subject matter?? Pls, are you Bini or Yoruba? How old are you. I asked not to demean nor insult you but to know if I can debate/discuss with you.

For the records ... Oba is from ....Eni ti o ba. He who overlords or governs or covers. Its a Yoruba word

Oduduwa..http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oduduwa ....well this link is your friend.

Eko ...basically/originally as Ekoile means a convergent abode

I know you are a fla.thead ..... This is an avenue for you to learn the history of where you're dying to belong

macjive01:
AND WHO SAID AWORIS ARE YORUBAs ?

ARE IKWERRES, IGBOS ?

So much is lost......and so much more in our history.

Funny is it, that the site purportedly for the LaSG does not know what Eko means, the site knows nothing about that the Aworis and their ethnicity. and the funniest, the site professes a lost/unknown ancestral history of the state, an history that's known even to the whites


Let history be told....The old Benin empire never won nor lost any land that farther west...the Itsekhiris would have been closer to the claim. Binis had and believed in a stronghold and fortified kingdom and a gradual expansion of their kingdom with solid sociopolitical structures ( they would have conquered neighbours like the Ishan, Ekale, Urhobo and Isokos) coupled with the constant fears of loss of sovereignty and internal conflicts( part of which made way for the inclusion of the Yorubas into their history) So much of Yoruba was rubbed into the Benin history and Kingdom that even the title "Oba" reflects till date.
The Binis won't make such funny claims, save for the coveteous lost Israelites.

The Aworis, the Fon, the Ewe....stories for other days.

Its non of anyone's business other than her hubby's

podosci:
APGA are just foolish and incompetent, Instead of APGA to grow into a major opposition party like APC, so Nigerians can have atleast 3 very good choices for elections. They are busy licking the ass of PDP

Darn as'slickers

Good for him....Hope he becomes a better man

Why always you......#Balotelli #Igbos

bibiking7:
Jimi is taking it too far with this tribal card. I hate to think of what will happen if He loses the election.

Nothing unbecoming will happen.....Yorubas are social and reasonable

italo:
Even if you use big words that you cannot spell, the average Igbo 10 year old would still see himself as more sensible than your grand father and your Oba.

They generally feel superior, not inferior.

Nigga..that's auto-type. Try a smartphone too. BTW..I'm no grammar competition. Go find an Igbo, they always like to measure up. Superior a.s.slicker

sanc2s:
Igbos are the decider in lagos gubernitorial poll. They hav 46percent in population of lagos. Hausas are just 4percent. The remaining 50percent is Yoruba. The yorubas will be divided into 2. Some will vote ambode while d rest will vote agbaje. Anybody the igbos vote for is the winner. Unless its bin rigged

46% .....what the fvck are they running from in the East... Rural- Urban migration
Gradually, the lost Israel tribe is going into extinction

Diligence:
Why I Am Now For Jimi Agbaje: Former Ambode Supporter


By Kole Onikoyi

"I used to be a supporter of APC candidate Akinwunmi Ambode for the Lagos gubernatorial elections for 2015. My support was because of a personal liking for the man who smiled at me from all those posters and billboards. However, that has changed and I am now in the Jimi Agbaje’s PDP corner. You need to know why.

The first reason is that the APC will control the federal government from May 29. They will also be in the majority in the Senate and the House of Representatives. From my projections, it seems they will also win more governorship positions next Saturday.

I am very worried about the implications of such a super majority for the APC. I believe that every democracy needs strong opposition to really thrive. If the APC becomes such a super majority, I fear that they would begin to take Nigerians for granted the way the PDP did for so long. Since the APC will be the dominant party it would be a great thing for the PDP to control a large state like Lagos from where they can be the voice of the opposition. That does not stop the federal government and Gen. Buhari from doing positive projects for the state, unless the APC is saying that the FG it will lead will discriminate against non-APC states.

To be sincere are you not worried about how things are going to be with APC leader Bola Tinubu pulling weight in the centre and in Lagos as well? A man who ‘Financial Times’ recently called ‘Machiavelli’, who knows how to manipulate the media and divert resources for the extension of his personal fiefdom. We need a counter check for him and his party. So Agbaje should win.

Ambode as the APC candidate of APC has professional qualification and experience as an accountant. Jimi Agbaje on the other hand belongs to an entrepreneurship background where he has founded a company, excelled as the CEO and subsequently as director of JayKay Pharmacy. An accomplished pharmacist, he held several positions in the pharmaceutical union and has vied for the position of Governor of Lagos, no less than two times.

Ambode, just like Fashola is a product of the Jagaban school of the unknown. The recent documentary on Asiwaju Bola Tinubu makes me fear what the implications of voting Ambode is. Governor Fashola did well in his first term and I wondered what happened in his second term and I figured from what I saw about Tinubu in that documentary that Fashola may have refused to play ball. What if Ambode decides to play ball and gives in to Tinubu’s every whim? Then Lagosians will be in trouble.

In Lagos, the APC collects tax indiscriminately from traders, vocational workers, professionals etc. They collect money from the toll gates in Lekki which has proven to be bad business because they have paid up to 62billion on the Lekki-Epe Expressway road and the road is not halfway complete.

The APC regime has been very elitist, with Tinubu converting The General Hospital land into estate according to the documentary and backdating the Certificate of Occcupancy of Lagos State lands to claim ownership of land in Lagos anytime he wants. Even the land where the Ikeja Mall now belongs is for him- that land originally belonged to Lagos State.

The Lagos State Polytechnic land at Ikosi was converted for commercial use for TV continental and Radio continental. What sort of governance is that? We need to try someone else who will look at Tinubu and not be under any obligation for his sake. Besides Agbaje is not beholden to any godfather in the way Ambode is. People keep referring to Bode George as his godfather. I was surprised to hear recently from an Agbaje campaign staff that George has not contributed a dime to Agbaje’s campaign since he won his primary. He doesn’t even have such wealth like Tinubu to contribute as much. So on what basis Would Agbaje be his stooge?

It’s evident that we need a new lease of life in Lagos based on this message of change. Buhari was given benefit of doubt to ensure that things work well in Nigeria, we need to give Jimi Agbaje that opportunity. Jimi like General Buhari has been attempting to serve us and we need to consider that in this season of change. We need to be wary of people that are deliberately selected by godfathers that have the state on lockdown already.

Lastly, what finally made me conclude to vote Agbaje was the outburst of the Oba of Lagos. The Oba gathered Igbo leaders because of their support for Jonathan and their impending support for Agbaje and said that they will perish in the Lagoon if they vote the way they voted last Saturday – that is voting for Jonathan.

This is a free country. What sort of desperation will make a retired Assistant Inspector General of Police say that? In Nigeria when such happens, you should know that it’s more than the credibility of the candidate. It’s the benefit of the ruling elite which constitutes the Oba of Lagos, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu and other APC stalwarts. It’s more than it meets the eye. I am a Yoruba man but I will vote Agbaje and make a point to the Oba that Nigeria is bigger than us all and we are one people.

Godfatherism has reached a great milking level in Lagos. We need an election of Jimi Agbaje to cut the milking of Lagos by godfathers and monarchs. Should Jimi Agbaje allow godfathers to rule him? We will vote him out in 2019 because our votes now count."

Na Bode George be hin godfather....Pdp's claws in Lagos will be best imagined

[b]What a shame to these pple. To what end is this means??. ( albeit....lgbos are a marginal means to JKs personal end....all pun intended.....An antagonistic venture that had never favoured them.)

As if PDP took care of Igbos while in power. Does Obanikoro and Bode George seem like their brothers across the Niger??

JK throws while these losers go fetch.... A typical throw-dog-fetch, stick and carrot approach.

Igbos have long enjoyed being taken for a ride. A tool for any wise man who knows how to evoke their emotions by striking their friable ego. What a pple

To say JK is only canvassing for Outsiders vote is a sign of irresponsibility, a man who ignores his pple and the pple he wants to represent, for Outsiders who'll leave any moment. It shows JK is a loser.

Well, If he aligns with and identifies with the Igbos only ( leaving other visitor- tribes and his pple) and he feels they'll help him push towards the Lagoon.....then I wish him the trial at it.

Good riddance to the dogs [/b]

italo:
you're wrong. The average 10 year old Igbo boy believes he is more sensible than your grand father and Oba Akio lunch put together.

That's superiority, not inferiority.

Hmmm Bask in your pseudo-euphoria. Wallow in your delusion of grandeur and self aggravadicement. The sensibility that gets you guys nowhere other than another man's backyard.

Firstly, it was Lagos, Now na Israel, Very soon na..... LAGOON

I gat my eyes on the LAGOON.
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Igbos might be successful, at least in business, but the truth is.... An average Igbo man has Inferiority Complex, hence the numerous defence mechanisms such as Anger tantrums, Being overtly selfconcious, sPlaying the victim, Trying to measure up/ standing up to unknown (unnecessary) competition.

Some are cool tho

Texcoco:
[color=#1980BC] [b] This is historical revisionism at best....we all saw what happened.The Marabout,Shiek Alimi was sent for to look after the spiritual needs of Hausas and Nupe Muslims,these muslims make up the entire cavalry wing of Alaafin's army, based in frontier town Illorin.Afonja in cahoots with Alimi exploited these elite horsemen to his military advantage against his master afterwhich Alimi keen to oversee an Islamic Emirate and spark a jihad conspired with his son Abubabkr to strangle Afonja(in his palace) thus taking not only control of the area but also the souls of the indigenes....these converted indigenes were the cannon fodder with which a jihad sprang out and nearly swept SW Nigeria.....It was only halted by disagreement amongst the muslim forces as to the formula of sharin yoruba war slaves and booty,the very forested area south of Illorin which made it impossible to lead a cavalry charge as it was in the flat Savanaah range of North central Nigeria and concerted efforts by rival pagan yoruba chiefs to fight a common enemy..........Town after town fell to these Jihadists until there was talk of touching the Quran inside the Atlantic this not only increased their fervour but made them undergo severe hardships. Alas they had no answer to the environment,the tse-tse flies which infected and killed off their horses with trypanosomiasis(sleeping sickness)..without which they were unable to sweep and put to flight pagan yoruba armies.Some jihadists made good infantry men but not all could fight on the ground,so after a military defeat borne from low morale and homesickness, a general call was sounded out for retreat and consolidation thus Illorin carved out yorubaland including environs of present day Kogi state up to Idah to the east and Aladja in present day Northern Benin Republic to the west became an Islamic Emirate...[/b] [/color]

Igbos.....studying YORUBA history since 1900. Una no go graduate I swear.

Too much insurbodination......
With recent happenings, coveteous claims and conta- claims, one day,(might be a thousand yeaars from now, might be more or less) just one day, it will be night and all chickens will have to go home to roost and then each Israelite will know where his tent is.

Ojo kan ooo jokan oooooo. Eje(blood)
ni o fi omo ale han.

Aitete pekan iroko........Yoruba roun ooo #JosKillings

Too much insurbodination......

With recent happenings, coveteous claims and conta- claims, one day,(might be a thousand yeaars from now, might be more or less) just one day, it will be night and all chickens will have to go home to roost and then each Israelite will know where his tent is.

Ojo kan ooo jokan oooooo. Eje(blood)
ni o fi omo ale han.

Aitete pekan iroko........Yoruba roun ooo #JosKillings

[size=20pt]Hmmmm.....Nna, Thou shall not covet thine neighbors land property.

Woes betide any tribe body that covets. Thus sayeth the books


Let those who have ears let them hear [/size]

Op...you be Linus?

Metuh, with that his mouth like Bobby Shmurda own. He shld get a gag or facemask or both

So soon how tables turned.....so Wike and the PDP are the new propagandists

Lessons #2015 elections taught me....Tables turn and it revs so fast

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Be like say na there you dey work bah......Its high time they charged per view

She done relocate already..... Somebody tell she has till ending of next .month

And the baby shall be called ABIONA

What I ask myself is.....why?

Why are Igbos like Balotelli...Mouth no dey finish for them body.

In all of what had/ have always bn said abt them....

I guess it's all the bitter truth.

Fulani's have bn known to be sociopathic nuisances but they still keep their head below the waters.

Igbos need to stop their attention seeking, histrionic narcissism. It will never always be abt them.